Logging for 115 days. nothing to show for it...

running a bit out of ideas here. I've been logging for 115 days now .


After around 25 days I got a weighing machine.

I weighed 256 on the Wednesday I bought one .

I was 248 like last Wednesday (the Wednesday before)

This Wednesday I was 251....



on around 2000 Kcal, should I be losing more? I would love some advice. I wish I knew how to attach pictures as I have before and after as well
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  • FinallyFitMommy
    FinallyFitMommy Posts: 38 Member
    I may get some unwanted backlash from telling you this, but for some people, it's more than calories in, calories out. When I started really paying attention to fat, carbs, protein, and fiber, the weight finally started coming off. For the first 3 months, I lost exactly 3 pounds. It was when I started paying attention to my carb intake, that the weight finally started coming off. A few months later, I'm down 23 pounds. I'm a very, very slow loser, and have to be okay with that. I current have 2 low carb days in a row, and then have 1 high carb day. It's what works for me.
    Feel free to add me! I'm always looking for more friends.
    Good luck to you! Don't give up.
  • shamansa
    shamansa Posts: 96 Member
    I may get some unwanted backlash from telling you this, but for some people, it's more than calories in, calories out. When I started really paying attention to fat, carbs, protein, and fiber, the weight finally started coming off. For the first 3 months, I lost exactly 3 pounds. It was when I started paying attention to my carb intake, that the weight finally started coming off. A few months later, I'm down 23 pounds. I'm a very, very slow loser, and have to be okay with that. I current have 2 low carb days in a row, and then have 1 high carb day. It's what works for me.
    Feel free to add me! I'm always looking for more friends.
    Good luck to you! Don't give up.


    You may be right about that. I feel like I have to limit carbs or something.

    If I go crazy on a week (eat much lower than my caloric level)

    I lose weight . But then I also lose like 5-6 pounds that week and I know most of that is not fat if I lose more than 2
  • twinketta
    twinketta Posts: 2,130 Member
    I checked your diary back for over a week, well done for logging and for opening your diary!

    IMHO I think you are not logging 100% true to what you are eating.

    You are logging so that is a big thing to help you...but if you don`t be true with it all, then you will not lose weight.

    If you are going to keep your diary, then...and this is what helped me...plan your food the day before...log it into your diary and stick to it.

    It is so easy to look back after the day has finished and add what you thought you ate.

    Truly, if I can lose weight and keep it off then you can to.
  • spoiledpuppies
    spoiledpuppies Posts: 675 Member
    First of all, kudos to you for continuing to log after 125 days of little progress. I may have abandoned the mission by now if I were in your shoes.

    I think it's going to come down to you overestimating your calorie burn and underestimating what you eat. Be VERY diligent about everything. If you don't have a heart rate monitor, get one. Weigh everything to the gram--even things in labeled packages tend to weigh more than label says. Do not eat anything--not even licking a spoon when you're making a recipe--without logging it.

    What got me to become very committed was that I found that I was trying all of the time (before MFP)--thinking about being healthier, like making better food choices, being more active. And I would mostly be good. But then just one bad meal or two in a week could spoil all of the work, and I really wasn't making any progress. I decided that as long as I was always thinking about this anyway, I might as well jump all in and become super attentive and committed to everything. Since then, I've only seen progress.
  • shamansa
    shamansa Posts: 96 Member
    First of all, kudos to you for continuing to log after 125 days of little progress. I may have abandoned the mission by now if I were in your shoes.

    I think it's going to come down to you overestimating your calorie burn and underestimating what you eat. Be VERY diligent about everything. If you don't have a heart rate monitor, get one. Weigh everything to the gram--even things in labeled packages tend to weigh more than label says. Do not eat anything--not even licking a spoon when you're making a recipe--without logging it.

    What got me to become very committed was that I found that I was trying all of the time (before MFP)--thinking about being healthier, like making better food choices, being more active. And I would mostly be good. But then just one bad meal or two in a week could spoil all of the work, and I really wasn't making any progress. I decided that as long as I was always thinking about this anyway, I might as well jump all in and become super attentive and committed to everything. Since then, I've only seen progress.

    Thanks for the reply.

    I guess that is true. Some days I log everything to the gram then others I just do rough estimates. I only think that there should be at least some difference in "rough logging" and "not logging at all"...



    http://s18.postimg.org/vb4lnwnrc/fatday2.jpg

    http://s9.postimg.org/5oiweb5e6/fat_day1.jpg


    Two pictures. Useless for me to say before and after as there is no difference anyway (except a shaved chest)
  • patols1
    patols1 Posts: 108 Member
    I guess I am confused because I looked at your diary and you are over your calorie limit almost every day and some days by as many as 500 calories. unless you aren't accounting for your exercise I think you would be gaining weight.
  • patols1
    patols1 Posts: 108 Member
    I guess I am confused because I looked at your diary and you are over your calorie limit almost every day and some days by as many as 500 calories. unless you aren't accounting for your exercise I think you would be gaining weight.


    i am reading the diaries wrong?? -500 in red means you went over on calories correct?
  • sloth3toes
    sloth3toes Posts: 2,212 Member
    I guess I am confused because I looked at your diary and you are over your calorie limit almost every day and some days by as many as 500 calories. unless you aren't accounting for your exercise I think you would be gaining weight.

    I agree with the others, kudos to you for sticking with the logging, and having your diary open for people to see, and hopefully help. Without knowing the rest of your stats.... and if your daily goal for calories is accurate.... you certainly appear to be exceeding it, every day for the week I went back.

    It seems to me that what you've learned so far is..... you're eating too much to lose weight. Drop your intake to the daily goal, or just below, and / or get some exercise.
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  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    I may get some unwanted backlash from telling you this, but for some people, it's more than calories in, calories out. When I started really paying attention to fat, carbs, protein, and fiber, the weight finally started coming off. For the first 3 months, I lost exactly 3 pounds. It was when I started paying attention to my carb intake, that the weight finally started coming off. A few months later, I'm down 23 pounds. I'm a very, very slow loser, and have to be okay with that. I current have 2 low carb days in a row, and then have 1 high carb day. It's what works for me.
    Feel free to add me! I'm always looking for more friends.
    Good luck to you! Don't give up.

    Yup you gonna get backlash and here it comes.

    Calories in<calories out you lose weight. Period, scientific fact.

    The the OP you may log but you don't weigh your food and and are consistently over your daily goal, no exercise to speak of and some days are not complete.

    You can't lose weight at a calorie surplus
  • vwbug86
    vwbug86 Posts: 283 Member
    I guess I am confused because I looked at your diary and you are over your calorie limit almost every day and some days by as many as 500 calories. unless you aren't accounting for your exercise I think you would be gaining weight.


    i am reading the diaries wrong?? -500 in red means you went over on calories correct?

    When you lose weight and adjust your calories all of the previous entries will show you over calories even if for your weight at the time you where under.

    I just started making diary notes so I can see how many calories I was under.
  • lucentabella
    lucentabella Posts: 114 Member
    I may get some unwanted backlash from telling you this, but for some people, it's more than calories in, calories out. When I started really paying attention to fat, carbs, protein, and fiber, the weight finally started coming off. For the first 3 months, I lost exactly 3 pounds. It was when I started paying attention to my carb intake, that the weight finally started coming off. A few months later, I'm down 23 pounds. I'm a very, very slow loser, and have to be okay with that. I current have 2 low carb days in a row, and then have 1 high carb day. It's what works for me.
    Feel free to add me! I'm always looking for more friends.
    Good luck to you! Don't give up.

    It is always calories in/out. Always.
    OP I would go to the doctor to get tested for hormone problems unless you are just not being 100% truthful to yourself while logging.

    I definitley agree that total calories in and calories out is a huge factor in weightloss. However, the type of calories you are eating are important as well. For example, it takes more time and calories to break down and digest protein than it does a simple carbohydrate. You stay fuller longer and your less likely to have dips in blood sugar levels or energy.

    Add to that, if you are like me an have insulin problems that cause your body to store carbs as fat (simply put). The majority of my food needs to be lean protein, complex carbohydrates (veggies), etc. I have to use a 1g:2g ratio (of protein complex carbs). I also have to limit my carb intake to no more than 30 grams in a 2 hour period. The ratio, timing, and my medicine allow my body to properly respond to food.

    So, take a little advice from all of the above posters. Check your intake and ouput. Have a doctor check your hormones, blood sugar, mineral and vitamin counts (for deficiencies), and tweak your food to be nutritionally right for you. Good luck! Keep at it.
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    I looked at the last 20 days.

    2 days looked incomplete....

    Given that tho in those 20 days you were over your goal 13 of them....for a total of 2925 calories...

    Given you don't weigh your food and days were incomplete....that could be as high as 5000 calories.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/872212-you-re-probably-eating-more-than-you-think
  • krisp1108
    krisp1108 Posts: 13 Member
    Well good for you for taking the time to log for 115 days, but to question why you're not losing weight must be some kind of a joke.
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    I may get some unwanted backlash from telling you this, but for some people, it's more than calories in, calories out. When I started really paying attention to fat, carbs, protein, and fiber, the weight finally started coming off. For the first 3 months, I lost exactly 3 pounds. It was when I started paying attention to my carb intake, that the weight finally started coming off. A few months later, I'm down 23 pounds. I'm a very, very slow loser, and have to be okay with that. I current have 2 low carb days in a row, and then have 1 high carb day. It's what works for me.
    Feel free to add me! I'm always looking for more friends.
    Good luck to you! Don't give up.

    It is always calories in/out. Always.
    OP I would go to the doctor to get tested for hormone problems unless you are just not being 100% truthful to yourself while logging.

    I definitley agree that total calories in and calories out is a huge factor in weightloss. However, the type of calories you are eating are important as well. For example, it takes more time and calories to break down and digest protein than it does a simple carbohydrate. Add to that, if you are like me an have insulin problems that cause your body to store carbs as fat (simply put). So, take a little advice from all of the above posters. Check your intake and ouput. Have a doctor check your hormones, blood sugar, mineral and vitamin counts (for deficiencies), and tweak your food to be nutritionally right for you. Good luck! Keep at it.

    did you look at the diary???? Hormones....really...:laugh:

    The type of calorie does not matter for weight loss...health maybe but not weight loss....
  • lucentabella
    lucentabella Posts: 114 Member
    Nah, but it won't hurt to have them examined. The key is still: intake vs output. The OP can look at the diary and be honest with themself on whether or not she's meeting that requirement. Maybe hormones or whatever are causing cravings or needs that keep sabotaging their efforts. I know for me, one of the reasons I was so hungry and tired all the time was because my blood sugar was a roller coaster. Since the dr got me on the right meds, I am always able to stick to my calorie limits.
  • nomeejerome
    nomeejerome Posts: 2,616 Member
    1. Calorie deficit=weight loss
    Calorie surplus=weight gain

    2. If weight loss is the goal and you are not losing weight, there is a miscalculation somewhere along the line.

    3. Unless you have a medical condition, there is no reason to reduce or eliminate items from your intake.
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  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
    I looked at the last 20 days.

    2 days looked incomplete....

    Given that tho in those 20 days you were over your goal 13 of them....for a total of 2925 calories...

    Given you don't weigh your food and days were incomplete....that could be as high as 5000 calories.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/872212-you-re-probably-eating-more-than-you-think

    Most likely this is your culprit OP.
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    Your diary shows you are eating too much.

    One entry stood out - 5 plates of chinese buffet logged as 1800 calories. That is...optimistic.
  • lucentabella
    lucentabella Posts: 114 Member
    It would matter in how efficiently your body uses the fuel your giving it. If you are staying fuller and energized longer, you may inherently eat less calories to fuel yourself, since they are better fuel. You would get better gas mileage....
  • enidite
    enidite Posts: 92 Member
    I do not agree that it is only calories in < calories out. ( just my opinion that's what works for me ). Looking at the last few days of your diary, I wonder where your fiber is. I don't see veggies and fruits.
    You might want to incorporate more fresh stuff and cut out some foods that can spike your blood sugar quickly such as processed carbs. I'm not saying that processed things should be cut out completely if someone likes them, but you need to make sure you give your body adequate nutrition in form of fruits and vegetables.
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  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
    Be more accurate and consistent in your logging.

    Expect some bouncing of your weight. (Especially 3 lbs.) I weigh every day and the day-to-day is chaotic but the bigger trend is predictable. I only concern myself with "the first time I get to 184" and "the first time I get to 183" and so on, instead of being worried about whether it stays at 183 the whole time until I hit 182.
  • lucentabella
    lucentabella Posts: 114 Member
    I may get some unwanted backlash from telling you this, but for some people, it's more than calories in, calories out. When I started really paying attention to fat, carbs, protein, and fiber, the weight finally started coming off. For the first 3 months, I lost exactly 3 pounds. It was when I started paying attention to my carb intake, that the weight finally started coming off. A few months later, I'm down 23 pounds. I'm a very, very slow loser, and have to be okay with that. I current have 2 low carb days in a row, and then have 1 high carb day. It's what works for me.
    Feel free to add me! I'm always looking for more friends.
    Good luck to you! Don't give up.

    It is always calories in/out. Always.
    OP I would go to the doctor to get tested for hormone problems unless you are just not being 100% truthful to yourself while logging.

    I definitley agree that total calories in and calories out is a huge factor in weightloss. However, the type of calories you are eating are important as well. For example, it takes more time and calories to break down and digest protein than it does a simple carbohydrate. You stay fuller longer and your less likely to have dips in blood sugar levels or energy.

    Add to that, if you are like me an have insulin problems that cause your body to store carbs as fat (simply put). The majority of my food needs to be lean protein, complex carbohydrates (veggies), etc. I have to use a 1g:2g ratio (of protein complex carbs). I also have to limit my carb intake to no more than 30 grams in a 2 hour period. The ratio, timing, and my medicine allow my body to properly respond to food.

    So, take a little advice from all of the above posters. Check your intake and ouput. Have a doctor check your hormones, blood sugar, mineral and vitamin counts (for deficiencies), and tweak your food to be nutritionally right for you. Good luck! Keep at it.

    Why would that matter if at the end of the day you have a calorie deficit? The rate at which your body uses the calories doesn't matter as long as you are in a deficit. You could eat all fat, all carb or all protein and still lose weight.

    You can have a calorie deficit and not lose weight. However, if that's the case you need to see a dr. Because, yes, you are correct in that 99% of the time the math should work (more out than in = weight loss). That said, protein builds muscle. Muscle is more dense than fat (one of the other by products of our food intake). You may lose a pound of fat, but gain a pound of muscle. If that's the case you should see a difference in your physical measurements rather than the scale. If you are like me, and your body does not breakdown carbs for energy, rather it stores them as fat, then you can eat less calories than you are burining and still have a problem losing weight.
  • sweetpea03b
    sweetpea03b Posts: 1,123 Member
    OK 1) of the days I saw in your diary... you went over on calories almost everyday. 2) The quality of foods that you're eating isn't there... lots of carbs... lots of eating out... lots of sweets. I didn't see a whole lot in the way of lean meats... veggies... fruits... and quality grains. 3) Do you not exercise? If you want to eat more... exercise to give yourself more calories to eat. 4) I don't know your stats so I don't know if 1700 or even 2000 is a good goal for you. Do your BMR and TDEE calculations.. I really suggest to get a fitbit or similar tracker so you have a realistic idea of how much you're truly burning on a day-to-day basis. If you eat at a deficit to what you burn you'll lose weight. Lifting and High Intensity Interval Training is your best bet to boosting your metabolism and burning fat... which is what you want. Cardio will give you calories to eat... but you won't see the results you want. Lift.

    It looks like you're eating a lot of stuff that is high in sodium so I think it's fair to say you're probably seeing a lot of fluctuation due to water weight.... also.. I didn't see you log any drinks. Do you really not drink anything all day? Drinks have calories too... log it. Make sure you're getting enough water to counteract all that sodium. I drink a minimum of 64oz/day... usually its closer to 90oz. Good luck.
  • navyrigger46
    navyrigger46 Posts: 1,301 Member
    Your problem is not hormones, or carbs, or anything like that, your problem is that you're not weighing and measuring your food, and you're not logging accurately. Buy a food scale, and stop going over your calorie goal dang near every day and you'll be fine.

    Rigger
  • Hey there, First off all let me ask you how serious and dedicated are you into weight loss? If you truly are motivated in acheiving your ultimate weight loss goals. Then I may have the advice you truly are seeking for. If you aren't losing weight on 2000k cals my guess(not really a guess but coming from experience and nutrition knowledge) is your metabolism has adjusted to those daily calorie consumption. Therefore you are just running in circles with weight loss at the moment. Let me ask you would you rather have your body losing weight at 3000 calories compared to 2000? you are 250 lbs and only consuming 2000 cals. That my friend is a problem. I weigh 170 lbs and i consume 2600 calories currently and I still am losing weight. Mind you I am into Bodybuilding/Physique /Fitnessimprovement.
    Alex
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    You can have a calorie deficit and not lose weight. However, if that's the case you need to see a dr. Because, yes, you are correct in that 99% of the time the math should work (more out than in = weight loss). That said, protein builds muscle. Muscle is more dense than fat (one of the other by products of our food intake). You may lose a pound of fat, but gain a pound of muscle. If that's the case you should see a difference in your physical measurements rather than the scale. If you are like me, and your body does not breakdown carbs for energy, rather it stores them as fat, then you can eat less calories than you are burining and still have a problem losing weight.

    I always understood using the muscles build muscle and to build muscle you need to be at a surplus and lifting at least. Protien helps repair muscle from the use...

    and no you wont lose fat and gain muscle at a deficet unless it's noobie gains...
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    You can have a calorie deficit and not lose weight.

    No, you can't, other than brief periods of water retention.

    Long term caloric deficit guarantees weight loss.

    It is, in fact, the only way to do it, short of surgery.