Those who cut out sugar
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I weigh about 170-172, 5'6". Havent finished eating for today. I eat up to 20-25 grams of carbs, those will mostly be from vegetables. Usually peanut butter has around 7grams of carbs per 2tbsp. So that fits. I wouldn't look at my recent tracking history, I just began tracking again to hit my next goal. I took about a 3 month break from tracking. Maintained easy. Looking to drop maybe 10-15 more lbs, or start lifting I don't know yet.
It's common to experience better sleep, a more stable mood, stable energy (mostly from no sugar crash), don't feel bloated after meals, people report their IBS is gone after cutting carbs out. My skin cleared up significantly, this is a pretty common effect also. One of the big ones for me is my back feels much better when i'm not eating carbs. Carbs cause joint inflammation.
There are many benefits that shouldn't be ignored because you feel it's BS. It's not BS at all. By the way, eating steak/eggs/hams/cheese/spinach/mashed cauliflower for dinner is a plus to eating this way. If you have any other questions just ask me.0 -
Won't waste my time. Thread was made for "those who cut out sugar". I have a year and a few months experience in having cut sugar out, have obviously had success in dropping alot of weight, along with other health benefits. It's a shame for the OP, great supportive community you guys have here.
We do have a very supportive community. One that is willing to call BS when we see it. There's no reason to allow people to be deceived into depriving themselves when it's not necessary. Real support starts with honesty. Period.
Totally this!! It happens with such regularity. Some knucklehead shows up, makes a few dopey posts and then won't waste their time when their nonsense is challenged. Great! Seeya!! The sad part is there are 1000 more ready to take their place.0 -
Won't waste my time. Thread was made for "those who cut out sugar". I have a year and a few months experience in having cut sugar out, have obviously had success in dropping alot of weight, along with other health benefits. It's a shame for the OP, great supportive community you guys have here.
news flash…calorie deficit lead to weight drop ..not cutting out sugar...
That's obvious. I'm not sure you've added anything with real substance and thought behind it in this thread so far. Not sure what you're motive is.0 -
Yeah I have to agree with a few others...Not sure what kind of dietary need or medical condition...so here it goes...few more details about you might give you better advice.
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Won't waste my time. Thread was made for "those who cut out sugar". I have a year and a few months experience in having cut sugar out, have obviously had success in dropping alot of weight, along with other health benefits. It's a shame for the OP, great supportive community you guys have here.
Your a 23 year old male eating less than 1250 cals a days (1000, 1185, 797). Tell me more about these lovely health benefits. Granted you don't log consistently, so maybe you're just bad at logging...then again, who knows if you really do cut out sugar. I mean I saw peanut butter, but I guess that doesn't count.
Wow. That's terrifying.
Dude you have to eat some vegetables.0 -
I've noticed when I cut back on junk food in general it's much easier to maintain....by junk food I mean little debbie snacks, chips, cookies etc....not just sugar. IIFYM doesn't work with me in this case because I tend to go over when I indulge the sweet tooth.
I have a big weakness for them though, so I'm taking it a day at a time.
I don't think you understand what IIFYM is at all.
IIFYM in terms of eating what you want to stay within your macros and cals...when I eat junk I will usually go over on cals. But My issue is of self control, not the junk itself.0 -
Sugar is a carb. A carb is a macro nutrient. If you just track your macro nutrients, you can eat the amount of carbs that you have set for yourself, whether it's in fruit or straight up spoonfuls of table sugar, or in a snickers bar. It doesn't matter. Track your macro nutrients and you don't have to worry about it.
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I weigh about 170-172, 5'6". Havent finished eating for today. I eat up to 20-25 grams of carbs, those will mostly be from vegetables. Usually peanut butter has around 7grams of carbs per 2tbsp. So that fits. I wouldn't look at my recent tracking history, I just began tracking again to hit my next goal. I took about a 3 month break from tracking. Maintained easy. Looking to drop maybe 10-15 more lbs, or start lifting I don't know yet.
It's common to experience better sleep, a more stable mood, stable energy (mostly from no sugar crash), don't feel bloated after meals, people report their IBS is gone after cutting carbs out. My skin cleared up significantly, this is a pretty common effect also. One of the big ones for me is my back feels much better when i'm not eating carbs. Carbs cause joint inflammation.
There are many benefits that shouldn't be ignored because you feel it's BS. It's not BS at all. By the way, eating steak/eggs/hams/cheese/spinach/mashed cauliflower for dinner is a plus to eating this way. If you have any other questions just ask me.
Thing is, I eat a high carb, higher sugar diet and I feel fantastic-I sleep great, have lots of energy, have no health issurs/complaints, had great blood test results the last time around, including not having a glucose number in the pre-diabetic range anymore. And I'm maintaining beautifully and effortlessly. And I eat as I like, which means today I had a cinnamon roll, pizza and breadsticks, peanut butter rice krispy bars (3), as well as things like a sweet potato and salad with regular ranch dressing etc. I also have a flat stomach (no bloating here, as you can see from my profile pictures), tight bum and calves and a pretty awesome strong back, shoulders and arms.
To each their own :drinker:0 -
I have no medical conitions. Healthy except for being over weight. I am just trying to figure out if I need to really worry about sugar intake or just count calories. Then again, I am not gonna never eat sugar again. For those of you who say everything in moderation, I agree with that. I am just looking for a kick start to weight loss. I know I can cut out soda an candy and junk foods. I am not looking to cut out fruits. I wanted to know if there is anything besides what I stated that I really should avoid. And when I know I can control my intake I plan to let myself have a few things I want. I am not looking to diet. Just set myself up for a better "eating" future. Making myself moderate the foods I eat in other words. Cuz I may be able to drop chocolate for a litttle bit, but I don't plan on Never eating it again.0
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I weigh about 170-172, 5'6". Havent finished eating for today. I eat up to 20-25 grams of carbs, those will mostly be from vegetables. Usually peanut butter has around 7grams of carbs per 2tbsp. So that fits. I wouldn't look at my recent tracking history, I just began tracking again to hit my next goal. I took about a 3 month break from tracking. Maintained easy. Looking to drop maybe 10-15 more lbs, or start lifting I don't know yet.
It's common to experience better sleep, a more stable mood, stable energy (mostly from no sugar crash), don't feel bloated after meals, people report their IBS is gone after cutting carbs out. My skin cleared up significantly, this is a pretty common effect also. One of the big ones for me is my back feels much better when i'm not eating carbs. Carbs cause joint inflammation.
There are many benefits that shouldn't be ignored because you feel it's BS. It's not BS at all. By the way, eating steak/eggs/hams/cheese/spinach/mashed cauliflower for dinner is a plus to eating this way. If you have any other questions just ask me.
Thing is, I eat a high carb, higher sugar diet and I feel fantastic-I sleep great, have lots of energy, have no health issurs/complaints, had great blood test results the last time around, including not having a glucose number in the pre-diabetic range anymore. And I'm maintaining beautifully and effortlessly. And I eat as I like, which means today I had a cinnamon roll, pizza and breadsticks, peanut butter rice krispy bars (3), as well as things like a sweet potato and salad with regular ranch dressing etc. I also have a flat stomach (no bloating here, as you can see from my profile pictures), tight bum and calves and a pretty awesome strong back, shoulders and arms.
To each their own :drinker:
Yeah as i said previously, what ever works for you and whatever you personally can sustain is the best diet to be on. I am just offering the other side of the coins perspective, apparently i'm a knuckle head, dopey, and baseless idiot for ever mentioning an alternate eating lifestyle. :smokin:0 -
I have no medical conitions. Healthy except for being over weight. I am just trying to figure out if I need to really worry about sugar intake or just count calories. Then again, I am not gonna never eat sugar again. For those of you who say everything in moderation, I agree with that. I am just looking for a kick start to weight loss. I know I can cut out soda an candy and junk foods. I am not looking to cut out fruits. I wanted to know if there is anything besides what I stated that I really should avoid. And when I know I can control my intake I plan to let myself have a few things I want. I am not looking to diet. Just set myself up for a better "eating" future. Making myself moderate the foods I eat in other words. Cuz I may be able to drop chocolate for a litttle bit, but I don't plan on Never eating it again.
eliminating foods because they are "bad" is not a long term path to success…
also, you can't kick start weight loss; you either eat in a deficit and lose weight, or you do not...0 -
Sugar is sugar is sugar.0
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I dont eat fruit, drink milk, full sugar soda, or anything for that matter.
Some foods can be suprising though.. so i suggest just checking labels .. everyones diet is different so you may not have many clean foods that contain sugar depending on what you eat.
Good lord I don't know how I'd survive. I eat fruit in mass quantities (because it's always fresh where I am) in addition to full fat milk and the regular coke. Never got in the way of my weight loss.0 -
none…
fruit sugar is not superior to other sugar…
eat in a deficit, hit macros, lose weight…
I promise it is that simple..
this assumes no medical condition that would make one sensitive to sugar.
** THIS **0 -
Sugar is sugar is sugar.
unless it comes from fruit, because that is magical sugar...0 -
For those of you who cut out sugar for any amount of time, what kinds of foods do you normally cut out? Like, I know fruits have tons of sugar in them, so obviously not foods like that? Is it just junk foods or is there more too it?
I cut out almost all processed foods. Yes, fruit is gone, too, as are all grains. I don't need high sugar foods at all.
I feel great since eliminating those things & plan to eat this way forever for the health benefits. No aches & pains, no cravings, complete control over what & how much I eat. I've also have lost a large amount of weight/fat.
Different people have different needs and we all need different things at different times in our lives. What & how much one needs to limit certain foods is an individual thing. The human body is very complex and, despite insistence from many, it is way more complicated than calories in, calories out.0 -
For those of you who cut out sugar for any amount of time, what kinds of foods do you normally cut out? Like, I know fruits have tons of sugar in them, so obviously not foods like that? Is it just junk foods or is there more too it?
I cut out almost all processed foods. Yes, fruit is gone, too, as are all grains. I don't need high sugar foods at all.
I feel great since eliminating those things & plan to eat this way forever for the health benefits. No aches & pains, no cravings, complete control over what & how much I eat. I've also have lost a large amount of weight/fat.
Different people have different needs and we all need different things at different times in our lives. What & how much one needs to limit certain foods is an individual thing. The human body is very complex and, despite insistence from many, it is way more complicated than calories in, calories out.
what do you eat, grass?
so you are saying calories in vs calories out does not matter..?0 -
Some foods are bad for an individual. We all have a different make up and, more importantly, brain chemistry. There is nothing wrong in honoring that. Sugar messes some people up and doesn't mess other people up.
To argue whether something is good or bad makes no sense as our DNA ultimately decides for us. I stay away from sugar not because sugar is evil but because the foods prepared with it mess me up i.e. cookies, candy, chocolate, cakes, ice-cream, pies, etc. I don't consume any of those foods. It is not a sacrifice. My health suffers when I do because they are HUGE migraine triggers.
You couldn't pay me enough to eat sugary foods because only I know the level of pain they bring, the days of work I miss, and how incapacitating it becomes.
So yeah, in my case, sugar is bad. Would I insist that it is bad for you? No. You have your own genetic make up that can handle it with no problem. There are many cases in which people are sensitive to sugar.
I don't get the mob mentality that hits this place. You don't have to agree with the OP but you can respect the fact that sugar is not okay for everyone.0 -
Some foods are bad for an individual. We all have a different make up and, more importantly, brain chemistry. There is nothing wrong in honoring that. Sugar messes some people up and doesn't mess other people up.
To argue whether something is good or bad makes no sense as our DNA ultimately decides for us. I stay away from sugar not because sugar is evil but because the foods prepared with it mess me up i.e. cookies, candy, chocolate, cakes, ice-cream, pies, etc. I don't consume any of those foods. It is not a sacrifice. My health suffers when I do because they are HUGE migraine triggers.
You couldn't pay me enough to eat sugary foods because only I know the level of pain they bring, the days of work I miss, and how incapacitating it becomes.
So yeah, in my case, sugar is bad. Would I insist that it is bad for you? No. You have your own genetic make up that can handle it with no problem. There are many cases in which people are sensitive to sugar.
I don't get the mob mentality that hits this place. You don't have to agree with the OP but you can respect the fact that sugar is not okay for everyone.
sugar is fine unless you have some kind of medical condition.0 -
Sugar is sugar is sugar.
unless it comes from fruit, because that is magical sugar...
Of course, because fruit in general has magical fat-burning qualities. All clean food does, regardless of the calories.0 -
none…
fruit sugar is not superior to other sugar…
eat in a deficit, hit macros, lose weight…
I promise it is that simple..
this assumes no medical condition that would make one sensitive to sugar.
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For those of you who cut out sugar for any amount of time, what kinds of foods do you normally cut out? Like, I know fruits have tons of sugar in them, so obviously not foods like that? Is it just junk foods or is there more too it?
I cut out almost all processed foods. Yes, fruit is gone, too, as are all grains. I don't need high sugar foods at all.
I feel great since eliminating those things & plan to eat this way forever for the health benefits. No aches & pains, no cravings, complete control over what & how much I eat. I've also have lost a large amount of weight/fat.
Different people have different needs and we all need different things at different times in our lives. What & how much one needs to limit certain foods is an individual thing. The human body is very complex and, despite insistence from many, it is way more complicated than calories in, calories out.
what do you eat, grass?
so you are saying calories in vs calories out does not matter..?
Calories matter but they are not all that matters. It is not just calories in/out. It is a lot more. The source of the food matters. And our bodies use calories from different foods in different ways. We even burn more calories eating some types of food than others.
There is so much new information out and more all the time. Much of what we've been told is completely wrong.0 -
For those of you who cut out sugar for any amount of time, what kinds of foods do you normally cut out? Like, I know fruits have tons of sugar in them, so obviously not foods like that? Is it just junk foods or is there more too it?
I cut out almost all processed foods. Yes, fruit is gone, too, as are all grains. I don't need high sugar foods at all.
I feel great since eliminating those things & plan to eat this way forever for the health benefits. No aches & pains, no cravings, complete control over what & how much I eat. I've also have lost a large amount of weight/fat.
Different people have different needs and we all need different things at different times in our lives. What & how much one needs to limit certain foods is an individual thing. The human body is very complex and, despite insistence from many, it is way more complicated than calories in, calories out.
what do you eat, grass?
so you are saying calories in vs calories out does not matter..?
Calories matter but they are not all that matters. It is not just calories in/out. It is a lot more. The source of the food matters. And our bodies use calories from different foods in different ways. We even burn more calories eating some types of food than others.
There is so much new information out and more all the time. Much of what we've been told is completely wrong.
so I can eat the "right" foods and eat 4000 calories a day and not gain weight?0 -
For those of you who cut out sugar for any amount of time, what kinds of foods do you normally cut out? Like, I know fruits have tons of sugar in them, so obviously not foods like that? Is it just junk foods or is there more too it?
I cut out almost all processed foods. Yes, fruit is gone, too, as are all grains. I don't need high sugar foods at all.
I feel great since eliminating those things & plan to eat this way forever for the health benefits. No aches & pains, no cravings, complete control over what & how much I eat. I've also have lost a large amount of weight/fat.
Different people have different needs and we all need different things at different times in our lives. What & how much one needs to limit certain foods is an individual thing. The human body is very complex and, despite insistence from many, it is way more complicated than calories in, calories out.
what do you eat, grass?
so you are saying calories in vs calories out does not matter..?
Calories matter but they are not all that matters. It is not just calories in/out. It is a lot more. The source of the food matters. And our bodies use calories from different foods in different ways. We even burn more calories eating some types of food than others.
There is so much new information out and more all the time. Much of what we've been told is completely wrong.
so I can eat the "right" foods and eat 4000 calories a day and not gain weight?
If you can let me know! lol...0 -
I follow the school of thought - as recommended by the American Heart Association - that the goal is to keep added sugar to a minimum. The rationale is that fibre mitigates the negative effects of fructose, so fruit is ok, whereas Oreo cookies, not so much. (Everything in moderation, of course.)
And it is fructose that's the problem, so lactose is ok (contains no fructose.) So you don't need to worry as much about the high sugar content in milk.0 -
Everyone is over simplifying things to prove their own point.
1) Too many calories will make you fat.
2) Refined sugar was not part of our diet before the 1400's so if you don't want to eat it, go ahead and don't.
3) Refined sugar can be addictive. If you are susceptible to sweets and feel that they hinder your weight loss, don't eat it.
4) Too much sugar makes your stomach hurt.
5) Sugar tastes good, so eat it if you want.
6) Sugar isn't entirely nutritious, so don't base your diet around it.
There, that is a bunch of random facts. Pick through whatever ones make you happy and whatever works for you. We shouldn't simplify things down to calories in vs. calories out in every circumstance, because eating 1800 calories a day of pure refined sugar is going to **** you up harder than Tyson in his prime. But then we shouldn't go the other way and simplify things down to "eat clean", because sometimes that just isn't reasonable or realistic.0 -
Everyone is over simplifying things to prove their own point.
1) Too many calories will make you fat.
2) Refined sugar was not part of our diet before the 1400's so if you don't want to eat it, go ahead and don't.
3) Refined sugar can be addictive. If you are susceptible to sweets and feel that they hinder your weight loss, don't eat it.
4) Too much sugar makes your stomach hurt.
5) Sugar tastes good, so eat it if you want.
6) Sugar isn't entirely nutritious, so don't base your diet around it.
There, that is a bunch of random facts. Pick through whatever ones make you happy and whatever works for you. We shouldn't simplify things down to calories in vs. calories out in every circumstance, because eating 1800 calories a day of pure refined sugar is going to **** you up harder than Tyson in his prime. But then we shouldn't go the other way and simplify things down to "eat clean", because sometimes that just isn't reasonable or realistic.
Careful.. you might compromise the circle jerk..0 -
Everyone is over simplifying things to prove their own point.
1) Too many calories will make you fat.
2) Refined sugar was not part of our diet before the 1400's so if you don't want to eat it, go ahead and don't.
3) Refined sugar can be addictive. If you are susceptible to sweets and feel that they hinder your weight loss, don't eat it.
4) Too much sugar makes your stomach hurt.
5) Sugar tastes good, so eat it if you want.
6) Sugar isn't entirely nutritious, so don't base your diet around it.
There, that is a bunch of random facts. Pick through whatever ones make you happy and whatever works for you. We shouldn't simplify things down to calories in vs. calories out in every circumstance, because eating 1800 calories a day of pure refined sugar is going to **** you up harder than Tyson in his prime. But then we shouldn't go the other way and simplify things down to "eat clean", because sometimes that just isn't reasonable or realistic.
Careful.. you might compromise the circle jerk..
I see a lot of people who refuse to accept what the other person is saying, even though nobody is actually arguing. People who suggest others eat clean are attacked by people who are pro-sugar, who are attacked by people who are pro-only one kind of sugar, who are attacked by pro-sugars again, who are then attacked by pro-clean eating. Nobody bothers to learn the history of refined sugar, the science of refined sugar vs the science of fruit sugar, or the science of calories in vs calories out. Nobody is out to educate each other in this thread, it is just an "I told you so" fight.0 -
Most of those "random facts" aren't actually facts. Just saying. Refined crystalline sugar was first produced roughly 6000 years ago, humans have been eating it long before the 1400s. Around the 1600s it started becoming cheaper, and by the 1700s it was a staple in most European households. In the 1800s the British consumed more sugar per capita than Americans do today (over 100 pounds a person.)Everyone is over simplifying things to prove their own point.
1) Too many calories will make you fat.
2) Refined sugar was not part of our diet before the 1400's so if you don't want to eat it, go ahead and don't.
3) Refined sugar can be addictive. If you are susceptible to sweets and feel that they hinder your weight loss, don't eat it.
4) Too much sugar makes your stomach hurt.
5) Sugar tastes good, so eat it if you want.
6) Sugar isn't entirely nutritious, so don't base your diet around it.
There, that is a bunch of random facts. Pick through whatever ones make you happy and whatever works for you. We shouldn't simplify things down to calories in vs. calories out in every circumstance, because eating 1800 calories a day of pure refined sugar is going to **** you up harder than Tyson in his prime. But then we shouldn't go the other way and simplify things down to "eat clean", because sometimes that just isn't reasonable or realistic.0 -
Most of those "random facts" aren't actually facts. Just saying. Refined crystalline sugar was first produced roughly 6000 years ago, humans have been eating it long before the 1400s. Around the 1600s it started becoming cheaper, and by the 1700s it was a staple in most European households. In the 1800s the British consumed more sugar per capita than Americans do today (over 100 pounds a person.)Everyone is over simplifying things to prove their own point.
1) Too many calories will make you fat.
2) Refined sugar was not part of our diet before the 1400's so if you don't want to eat it, go ahead and don't.
3) Refined sugar can be addictive. If you are susceptible to sweets and feel that they hinder your weight loss, don't eat it.
4) Too much sugar makes your stomach hurt.
5) Sugar tastes good, so eat it if you want.
6) Sugar isn't entirely nutritious, so don't base your diet around it.
There, that is a bunch of random facts. Pick through whatever ones make you happy and whatever works for you. We shouldn't simplify things down to calories in vs. calories out in every circumstance, because eating 1800 calories a day of pure refined sugar is going to **** you up harder than Tyson in his prime. But then we shouldn't go the other way and simplify things down to "eat clean", because sometimes that just isn't reasonable or realistic.
Again, arguing over a meaningless mistake. Before the 1400s, most people did not eat refined sugar. It was a luxury item from I guess around 1500 up until the 1800s. You can pull Wikipedia facts all day on me if you want, but I am only trying to get people over this argumentative hurdle we are having in this thread. Doesn't seem possible I guess. Being off a few hundred years doesn't change a damn thing about my point that refined sugar hasn't always been in our diet. You are already labeling me as an opponent to your ideology, even though I am right in the middle.
So we refined it 8,000 years ago. There was still about 192,000 years before that of us not eating refined sugar. Just accept the point for the meaning behind it, not as some definite date factoid.0
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