paleo diet

danapenguin
danapenguin Posts: 161
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anyone tried this? any success? is it good for people on the run, who don't have time to prepare meals? i am thinkning of trying this after the holidays and would love some insight into it
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  • AJ_G
    AJ_G Posts: 4,158 Member
    Fad diet, completely unnecessary, any diet that has you cutting out entire food groups is a bad idea...
  • uconnwinsnc
    uconnwinsnc Posts: 1,054 Member
    Do what you're comfortable with. It isn't necessary, but if you feel "healthier" doing it, then go ahead. It will probably be too difficult to sustain though and there really isn't much solid evidence that it will improve your health.
  • IronSmasher
    IronSmasher Posts: 3,908 Member
    Huge pain in butt for no extra results over a moderate calorie restriction on a balanced diet.
  • AJ_G
    AJ_G Posts: 4,158 Member
    Do what you're comfortable with. It isn't necessary, but if you feel "healthier" doing it, then go ahead. It will probably be too difficult to sustain though and there really isn't much solid evidence that it will improve your health.

    More like there isn't ANY solid evidence that it will improve your health any more than a calorie deficit with proper macronutrient intakes
  • uconnwinsnc
    uconnwinsnc Posts: 1,054 Member
    Do what you're comfortable with. It isn't necessary, but if you feel "healthier" doing it, then go ahead. It will probably be too difficult to sustain though and there really isn't much solid evidence that it will improve your health.

    More like there isn't ANY solid evidence that it will improve your health any more than a calorie deficit with proper macronutrient intakes

    I'll give a little leeway since I really haven't done any real research on it.
  • AJ_G
    AJ_G Posts: 4,158 Member
    Do what you're comfortable with. It isn't necessary, but if you feel "healthier" doing it, then go ahead. It will probably be too difficult to sustain though and there really isn't much solid evidence that it will improve your health.

    More like there isn't ANY solid evidence that it will improve your health any more than a calorie deficit with proper macronutrient intakes

    I'll give a little leeway since I really haven't done any real research on it.

    Good Read: http://www.simplyshredded.com/research-review-the-dirt-on-clean-eating-written-by-nutrition-expert-alan-aragon.html
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    anyone tried this? any success? is it good for people on the run, who don't have time to prepare meals? i am thinkning of trying this after the holidays and would love some insight into it
    Just the opposite. You need a lot of kitchen time to work a "paleo" diet, as they pretty much allow nothing packaged.
  • uconnwinsnc
    uconnwinsnc Posts: 1,054 Member
    Do what you're comfortable with. It isn't necessary, but if you feel "healthier" doing it, then go ahead. It will probably be too difficult to sustain though and there really isn't much solid evidence that it will improve your health.

    More like there isn't ANY solid evidence that it will improve your health any more than a calorie deficit with proper macronutrient intakes

    I'll give a little leeway since I really haven't done any real research on it.

    Good Read: http://www.simplyshredded.com/research-review-the-dirt-on-clean-eating-written-by-nutrition-expert-alan-aragon.html

    Will read in the morning. Thanks
  • mungowungo
    mungowungo Posts: 327 Member
    anyone tried this? any success? is it good for people on the run, who don't have time to prepare meals? i am thinkning of trying this after the holidays and would love some insight into it
    Just the opposite. You need a lot of kitchen time to work a "paleo" diet, as they pretty much allow nothing packaged.

    Agreed - I'd suggest that you have a look at Mark's Daily Apple to see if it would fit your lifestyle -

    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/#axzz2oH5hUowv
  • IronSmasher
    IronSmasher Posts: 3,908 Member
    anyone tried this? any success? is it good for people on the run, who don't have time to prepare meals? i am thinkning of trying this after the holidays and would love some insight into it
    Just the opposite. You need a lot of kitchen time to work a "paleo" diet, as they pretty much allow nothing packaged.

    Agreed - I'd suggest that you have a look at Mark's Daily Apple to see if it would fit your lifestyle -

    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/#axzz2oH5hUowv

    Not paleo.
  • Noc6285
    Noc6285 Posts: 20 Member
    I'm not sure why the hate....
    Paleo is not a "fad" diet. It is based around what humans have been eating for the longest amount of time. The basics are you eat meat and fish, veggies, nuts and seeds, fruit in moderation, no grains or dairy. As always it is good to do research on your own and experiment to determine what you want and how you want to live your life. I feel my absolute best when I follow strict paleo, to each his own though. I would not knock it just because idiots say it's a fad or you need lots of time. Anything worth doing requires effort and time. I encourage you to at least give it a shot and see how you like it, it really isn't much different from "clean" eating. Good luck!
  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member
    I'm not sure why the hate....
    Paleo is not a "fad" diet. It is based around what humans have been eating for the longest amount of time......

    Not true.

    http://youtu.be/BMOjVYgYaG8
    Archologist have proof we ate the paleo "forbidden" foods for a very long time.
  • ldrosophila
    ldrosophila Posts: 7,512 Member
    I'm not sure why the hate....
    Paleo is not a "fad" diet. It is based around what humans have been eating for the longest amount of time. The basics are you eat meat and fish, veggies, nuts and seeds, fruit in moderation, no grains or dairy. As always it is good to do research on your own and experiment to determine what you want and how you want to live your life. I feel my absolute best when I follow strict paleo, to each his own though. I would not knock it just because idiots say it's a fad or you need lots of time. Anything worth doing requires effort and time. I encourage you to at least give it a shot and see how you like it, it really isn't much different from "clean" eating. Good luck!

    Based on what though scat testing? Humans in Africa ate differently than humans in Europe or humans in Asia. How come tubers like potatoes are outlawed in paleo most primitive cultures eat tons of tubers and starch vegetables and legumes? Neolithic European and Eurasian steppes man started drinking milk and developed lactose tolerance. 5000 year old Iceman Otzii had a bag full of grains and starches with his body found in the Alps.

    I don't think it's justified to call anyone an idiot who questions a diet which has only recent trends and there is no real evidence it is beneficial.
  • Noc6285
    Noc6285 Posts: 20 Member
    I've watched that video before, she pretty much backs up the paleo diet...

    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/apoe4-allele-jet-lag-tedx-paleo-debunking-cough-drops/

    http://robbwolf.com/2013/04/04/debunking-paleo-diet-wolfs-eye-view/
  • AJ_G
    AJ_G Posts: 4,158 Member
    I'm not sure why the hate....
    Paleo is not a "fad" diet. It is based around what humans have been eating for the longest amount of time. The basics are you eat meat and fish, veggies, nuts and seeds, fruit in moderation, no grains or dairy. As always it is good to do research on your own and experiment to determine what you want and how you want to live your life. I feel my absolute best when I follow strict paleo, to each his own though. I would not knock it just because idiots say it's a fad or you need lots of time. Anything worth doing requires effort and time. I encourage you to at least give it a shot and see how you like it, it really isn't much different from "clean" eating. Good luck!

    Lol. You make it sound like "it really isn't much different from clean eating" is supposed to be a good thing. Clean eating is also ridiculous. The rationale behind paleo is so screwed up and convoluted it's insane. In the end, eat whatever you want, but understand that there is no solid science behind paleo whatsoever and there are absolutely zero health benefits associated with paleo that have been scientifically tested. Any health benefit from paleo comes from the caloric deficit and the macronutrient intakes which can be easily achieved without cutting out entire food groups and following ridiculous rules...
  • Noc6285
    Noc6285 Posts: 20 Member
    I'm not sure why the hate....
    Paleo is not a "fad" diet. It is based around what humans have been eating for the longest amount of time. The basics are you eat meat and fish, veggies, nuts and seeds, fruit in moderation, no grains or dairy. As always it is good to do research on your own and experiment to determine what you want and how you want to live your life. I feel my absolute best when I follow strict paleo, to each his own though. I would not knock it just because idiots say it's a fad or you need lots of time. Anything worth doing requires effort and time. I encourage you to at least give it a shot and see how you like it, it really isn't much different from "clean" eating. Good luck!

    Lol. You make it sound like "it really isn't much different from clean eating" is supposed to be a good thing. Clean eating is also ridiculous. The rationale behind paleo is so screwed up and convoluted it's insane. In the end, eat whatever you want, but understand that there is no solid science behind paleo whatsoever and there are absolutely zero health benefits associated with paleo that have been scientifically tested. Any health benefit from paleo comes from the caloric deficit and the macronutrient intakes which can be easily achieved without cutting out entire food groups and following ridiculous rules...

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/13/healthy-paleo-diet-tips_n_3900690.html

    http://www.motherearthnews.com/natural-health/paleo-diet-zbcz1310.aspx

    http://www.paleodietevolved.com/benefits-of-the-paleo-diet.html

    http://eatdrinkpaleo.com.au/paleo-benefits/

    So you are telling me that a pizza has the same nutrition as meats and veggies? A sub sandwich is just as "healthy" as fruits or nuts? A cookie the same as grass fed beef? You're ridiculous if you think clean eating is not anymore healthier for you than IIFYM.....
  • mungowungo
    mungowungo Posts: 327 Member
    anyone tried this? any success? is it good for people on the run, who don't have time to prepare meals? i am thinkning of trying this after the holidays and would love some insight into it
    Just the opposite. You need a lot of kitchen time to work a "paleo" diet, as they pretty much allow nothing packaged.

    Agreed - I'd suggest that you have a look at Mark's Daily Apple to see if it would fit your lifestyle -

    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/#axzz2oH5hUowv

    Not paleo.

    Okay it is "primal" rather than "paleo" . If you could please enlighten me as to the difference(s) I would appreciate it.
    I'm not being sarcastic I would like to know that's all..
  • Noc6285
    Noc6285 Posts: 20 Member
    Do what you're comfortable with. It isn't necessary, but if you feel "healthier" doing it, then go ahead. It will probably be too difficult to sustain though and there really isn't much solid evidence that it will improve your health.

    More like there isn't ANY solid evidence that it will improve your health any more than a calorie deficit with proper macronutrient intakes

    I'll give a little leeway since I really haven't done any real research on it.

    Good Read: http://www.simplyshredded.com/research-review-the-dirt-on-clean-eating-written-by-nutrition-expert-alan-aragon.html

    http://www.simplyshredded.com/the-deadline-diet-skip-the-bulk-and-stay-shredded-all-year-a-simple-approach-to-nutrition.html

    Check out the "What to eat" section.....
  • Noc6285
    Noc6285 Posts: 20 Member
    anyone tried this? any success? is it good for people on the run, who don't have time to prepare meals? i am thinkning of trying this after the holidays and would love some insight into it
    Just the opposite. You need a lot of kitchen time to work a "paleo" diet, as they pretty much allow nothing packaged.

    Agreed - I'd suggest that you have a look at Mark's Daily Apple to see if it would fit your lifestyle -

    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/#axzz2oH5hUowv

    Not paleo.

    Okay it is "primal" rather than "paleo" . If you could please enlighten me as to the difference(s) I would appreciate it.
    I'm not being sarcastic I would like to know that's all..

    The terms are interchangeable in the dietary sense.
  • mungowungo
    mungowungo Posts: 327 Member
    anyone tried this? any success? is it good for people on the run, who don't have time to prepare meals? i am thinkning of trying this after the holidays and would love some insight into it
    Just the opposite. You need a lot of kitchen time to work a "paleo" diet, as they pretty much allow nothing packaged.

    Agreed - I'd suggest that you have a look at Mark's Daily Apple to see if it would fit your lifestyle -

    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/#axzz2oH5hUowv

    Not paleo.

    Okay it is "primal" rather than "paleo" . If you could please enlighten me as to the difference(s) I would appreciate it.
    I'm not being sarcastic I would like to know that's all..

    The terms are interchangeable in the dietary sense.

    Thank you. I was truly confused for a minute and wondered whether it was just a question of semantics.
  • AJ_G
    AJ_G Posts: 4,158 Member
    I'm not sure why the hate....
    Paleo is not a "fad" diet. It is based around what humans have been eating for the longest amount of time. The basics are you eat meat and fish, veggies, nuts and seeds, fruit in moderation, no grains or dairy. As always it is good to do research on your own and experiment to determine what you want and how you want to live your life. I feel my absolute best when I follow strict paleo, to each his own though. I would not knock it just because idiots say it's a fad or you need lots of time. Anything worth doing requires effort and time. I encourage you to at least give it a shot and see how you like it, it really isn't much different from "clean" eating. Good luck!

    Lol. You make it sound like "it really isn't much different from clean eating" is supposed to be a good thing. Clean eating is also ridiculous. The rationale behind paleo is so screwed up and convoluted it's insane. In the end, eat whatever you want, but understand that there is no solid science behind paleo whatsoever and there are absolutely zero health benefits associated with paleo that have been scientifically tested. Any health benefit from paleo comes from the caloric deficit and the macronutrient intakes which can be easily achieved without cutting out entire food groups and following ridiculous rules...

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/13/healthy-paleo-diet-tips_n_3900690.html

    http://www.motherearthnews.com/natural-health/paleo-diet-zbcz1310.aspx

    http://www.paleodietevolved.com/benefits-of-the-paleo-diet.html

    http://eatdrinkpaleo.com.au/paleo-benefits/

    So you are telling me that a pizza has the same nutrition as meats and veggies? A sub sandwich is just as "healthy" as fruits or nuts? A cookie the same as grass fed beef? You're ridiculous if you think clean eating is not anymore healthier for you than IIFYM.....

    Really? Gonna site Huffington Post as your evidence? When did I say pizza has the same nutritional content as vegetables? Your mistake is judging individual foods on their "healthiness" instead of looking at your entire daily intake as a whole. Sure certain foods have more nutrients in them than other foods, but that doesn't mean you should only eat foods high in nutrients. The whole reason IIFYM works is because you stop obsessing of every single individual food and it's nutrient content, and all you have to do is make sure that at the end of the day, you have eaten enough protein, enough fat, enough fiber, and you get enough micronutrients. As long as you're doing that, it doesn't matter what each individual food has, it matters what your entire caloric intake for the day has. Look at the big picture. Stop trying to label individual foods as healthy or not because that is flawed. No food is concretely healthy in every situation and no food is concretely unhealthy in every situation. What I mean by that is most people consider an apple to be healthy and always healthy without looking at context. Say your caloric goal for the day is 2000 calories and you have already consumed 2000 calories, hit your macros, micros, and fiber. If you were to eat an apple in this situation, it would be unhealthy for you, so in this context, an apple is unhealthy. Foods should not be judged as healthy or unhealthy without considering context and dosage.

    http://impruvism.com/clean-eating/

    http://impruvism.com/why-calories-count/

    Both of these articles have over dozens and dozens of scientific sources in the footnotes that you can look up if you'd like
  • littlelexical
    littlelexical Posts: 146 Member
    Personally, unless you have been advised to eat this way for other health reasons ( I say as someone who has in the past, but no longer does) - I think it is best to try to find a way of eating that allows you to have everything in moderation.
  • IronSmasher
    IronSmasher Posts: 3,908 Member
    anyone tried this? any success? is it good for people on the run, who don't have time to prepare meals? i am thinkning of trying this after the holidays and would love some insight into it
    Just the opposite. You need a lot of kitchen time to work a "paleo" diet, as they pretty much allow nothing packaged.

    Agreed - I'd suggest that you have a look at Mark's Daily Apple to see if it would fit your lifestyle -

    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/#axzz2oH5hUowv

    Not paleo.

    Okay it is "primal" rather than "paleo" . If you could please enlighten me as to the difference(s) I would appreciate it.
    I'm not being sarcastic I would like to know that's all..

    Dairy.
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    Paleo is not a "fad" diet. It is based around what humans have been eating for the longest amount of time. The basics are you eat meat and fish, veggies, nuts and seeds, fruit in moderation, no grains or dairy.

    Humans have eaten grains for as long as there have been humans. Ironically, what humans haven't done until recently is have a diet heavy in farmed meat.

    "Paleo" is a fad, and about as based in reality as something like the Grapefruit diet. If someone wants to eat with strong restrictions, it's cool with me, just don't expect it to be a magic dieting bullet.
  • Iaccardi
    Iaccardi Posts: 7 Member
    After doing some research on this, it doesn't really matter. You can eat whatever you want so long as you are logging in less calories than you need for your body to maintain. It really is THAT simple.
  • Noc6285
    Noc6285 Posts: 20 Member
    After doing some research on this, it doesn't really matter. You can eat whatever you want so long as you are logging in less calories than you need for your body to maintain. It really is THAT simple.

    I agree and that's why IIFYM works. It is simple to follow I get it, but to infer that eating clean has no more health benefits than just eating whatever you want as long as it fits into your calories is just lazy and ignorant. I'm not saying to not have that ice cream bar, I'm just saying don't fool yourself into thinking it doesn't come with some sort of consequence. Find what works for you, do your research. I hope some links and this discussion had helped answer OP's question.
  • rgugs13
    rgugs13 Posts: 197 Member
    Protein staves off hunger longer than fat or carbohydrates. I don't follow a paleo diet, but after reading these studies I've looked up some paleo recipes. Some of them are a little involved, but there are also a lot of simple things to cook like steak or roast chicken. There is also evidence eating low fat dairy can help reduce the amount of fat your body absorbs.

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/09/060905225848.htm

    http://www.nature.com/news/2006/060904/full/news060904-3.html

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/humanbody/truthaboutfood/slim/calcium.shtml

    It takes a lot of willpower to follow super strict diets, and breaking the diet even one day can make it hard to get back on! I think eating a balanced diet with good lean protein at every meal with a calorie deficit will work out better in the long run.

    I found a lot of good ideas, and I like learning new ways to incorporate vegetables into my diet as well. Replacing spaghetti with spaghetti squash sounds interesting!

    http://www.primalpalate.com/
  • AJ_G
    AJ_G Posts: 4,158 Member
    After doing some research on this, it doesn't really matter. You can eat whatever you want so long as you are logging in less calories than you need for your body to maintain. It really is THAT simple.

    I agree and that's why IIFYM works. It is simple to follow I get it, but to infer that eating clean has no more health benefits than just eating whatever you want as long as it fits into your calories is just lazy and ignorant. I'm not saying to not have that ice cream bar, I'm just saying don't fool yourself into thinking it doesn't come with some sort of consequence. Find what works for you, do your research. I hope some links and this discussion had helped answer OP's question.

    You didn't read my last post at all, did you?
  • Noc6285
    Noc6285 Posts: 20 Member
    After doing some research on this, it doesn't really matter. You can eat whatever you want so long as you are logging in less calories than you need for your body to maintain. It really is THAT simple.

    I agree and that's why IIFYM works. It is simple to follow I get it, but to infer that eating clean has no more health benefits than just eating whatever you want as long as it fits into your calories is just lazy and ignorant. I'm not saying to not have that ice cream bar, I'm just saying don't fool yourself into thinking it doesn't come with some sort of consequence. Find what works for you, do your research. I hope some links and this discussion had helped answer OP's question.

    You didn't read my last post at all, did you?

    I did. Did you read that simply shredded link?
  • mustgetmuscles1
    mustgetmuscles1 Posts: 3,346 Member
    After doing some research on this, it doesn't really matter. You can eat whatever you want so long as you are logging in less calories than you need for your body to maintain. It really is THAT simple.

    I agree and that's why IIFYM works. It is simple to follow I get it, but to infer that eating clean has no more health benefits than just eating whatever you want as long as it fits into your calories is just lazy and ignorant. I'm not saying to not have that ice cream bar, I'm just saying don't fool yourself into thinking it doesn't come with some sort of consequence. Find what works for you, do your research. I hope some links and this discussion had helped answer OP's question.

    You didn't read my last post at all, did you?

    Pshh Why bother? We all know IIFYM is all protein shakes and ice cream. The only fruit you get is inside a pastry and veggies are for commies. :tongue:

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