paleo diet

danapenguin

wow thanks for all the links and responses! I have never tried this before no, but the thought of cutting out things does make it seem unhealthy. I also have glucose problems, not diabetic but my glucose level stays low so I was wanting to try something that would help stablilze my sugar levels as well. not sure if this diet will work for me...
Think I will try just eating what I want, but in moderation like someone else said. I may try Paleo but like I said, not sure how long it will last, thanks for all the information and opinions!

Jestinia

If you love sugary junk food the way a two pack a day smoker loves cigarettes then Paleo could be worth a try, since you then won't be getting the sugar that is found in so many packaged foods (like your typical grocery store bread). Cutting sugar almost entirely out of your diet by any means might help you with appetite control and any cravings. Or it might not. I just know it helps me.

I stick with low carb, not sure where the sugar content differs from Paleo. I don't even try eating fruit very often, because I know my sweet tooth too well. I think Paleo dieters can have more fruit than strict low carb eaters staying in ketosis.

MissBabyJane

Honestly, I see a lot of negativity about this diet here. My personal opinion is that I like it. I was on it for 1 month and that's when the things started to turn around for me. But when you're off the diet you need to be very careful with what you eat and slowly include the excluded producs in your menu.

mimieon

After doing some research on this, it doesn't really matter. You can eat whatever you want so long as you are logging in less calories than you need for your body to maintain. It really is THAT simple.

I agree and that's why IIFYM works. It is simple to follow I get it, but to infer that eating clean has no more health benefits than just eating whatever you want as long as it fits into your calories is just lazy and ignorant. I'm not saying to not have that ice cream bar, I'm just saying don't fool yourself into thinking it doesn't come with some sort of consequence. Find what works for you, do your research. I hope some links and this discussion had helped answer OP's question.

I really don't get the whole "clean"eating thing. What exactly is considered 'dirty'?
Ice cream is just some sugar and dairy, which may just be what you need.

Also, it seems to me that "Clean" eating can have consequences as well if it doesn't fit your macros. For intance, you could eat bags and bags of beautiful 'clean' homegrown organic carrots for a while and have liver toxicity as a result of a vitamin A excess.

twixlepennie

anyone tried this? any success? is it good for people on the run, who don't have time to prepare meals? i am thinkning of trying this after the holidays and would love some insight into it

Just the opposite. You need a lot of kitchen time to work a "paleo" diet, as they pretty much allow nothing packaged.

This-I tried it for a very short period of time and besides it being incredibly expensive to eat this way, it took sooo much time to prepare everything. I was spending more time preparing my meals, than it took to prepare and feed the rest of my family (4 people). It was exhausting.

elyelyse

So you are telling me that a pizza has the same nutrition as meats and veggies? A sub sandwich is just as "healthy" as fruits or nuts? A cookie the same as grass fed beef? You're ridiculous if you think clean eating is not anymore healthier for you than IIFYM.....

What if I put meat and veggies ON the pizza? That's good, right? Get all my nutrients? :happy:

And fruit and nuts isn't going to satisfy me half as much as a sandwich...so you're comparing two things that have no business being compared. I can include both options in my diet.

Same with the cookie compared to the beef...you see, first you eat the meat. Then you rest for a little bit. Then you eat the cookie. Hopefully with a glass of milk or cup of tea.

sassyjae21

Meh. Too much work. I'd rather just do a calorie deficit. Seems much easier to make sure you don't go over your calories than to cut out certain foods and spend hours in the kitchen. I'm much too lazy for that.

twixlepennie

So you are telling me that a pizza has the same nutrition as meats and veggies? A sub sandwich is just as "healthy" as fruits or nuts? A cookie the same as grass fed beef? You're ridiculous if you think clean eating is not anymore healthier for you than IIFYM.....

What if I put meat and veggies ON the pizza? That's good, right? Get all my nutrients? :happy:

And fruit and nuts isn't going to satisfy me half as much as a sandwich...so you're comparing two things that have no business being compared. I can include both options in my diet.

Same with the cookie compared to the beef...you see, first you eat the meat. Then you rest for a little bit. Then you eat the cookie. Hopefully with a glass of milk or cup of tea.

NO dairy
NO grains
NO legumes/beans (including peanuts)
NO added sugars (honey and maple syrup are gray areas, as well as dark chocolate)
NO 'processed' foods
Limited amounts of fruit, and focus mostly on berries (and it should be local and organic)
Lots of veggies, meat and eggs (local, organic, grass fed etc)
Nuts and seeds in small amounts


Way to restrictive/expensive/time consuming for me and I could only do it for a couple months before abandoning it. I like cheese and canned tomato sauce on my grain pizza crust

tigersword

After doing some research on this, it doesn't really matter. You can eat whatever you want so long as you are logging in less calories than you need for your body to maintain. It really is THAT simple.

I agree and that's why IIFYM works. It is simple to follow I get it, but to infer that eating clean has no more health benefits than just eating whatever you want as long as it fits into your calories is just lazy and ignorant. I'm not saying to not have that ice cream bar, I'm just saying don't fool yourself into thinking it doesn't come with some sort of consequence. Find what works for you, do your research. I hope some links and this discussion had helped answer OP's question.

You apparently don't understand IF IT FITS YOUR MACROS. It's not about just eating anything that fits your calorie count. It's about eating anything, so long as it fits your macro and micro needs. All it means is you don't arbitrarily exclude any foods just because they don't fit the arbitrary definition of "x" diet. As Eric Helms says, you don't get extra credit for eating nutrient dense foods after your nutritional needs are met. About 20% of your caloric needs are strictly for energy purposes, once you've hit your requisite protein, fat, and micronutrient needs, anything else you eat after that is strictly burned for energy, and any micronutrients in those foods get eliminated, as they aren't needed. As long as your needs are met, there are no consequences to eating ice cream.

psuLemon

I had tried paleo for a bit as my wife has a gluten intolerance. We found it was way too restrictive and cost 3x as much. If you have a glucose problem, eliminate or reduce the foods that effect you and dont eliminate foods that can prove beneficial.

The thing that drives me up the wall is when people compare pizza vs lean meats... this argument is ridiculous because you compare a food group (meat) to a specific food that us iifym or non restrictive eaters have once in awhile. Its not like my enitire diet is pizza. I eat dirty but I hit my protein and fat goals daily. And when I do, I eat a Klondike bar. In all reality food has one purpose.... energy. So lets not try to belittle a different eating style with ignorant or grossly wrong comparison.

The fact is no one diet style is the best... only the best for you. The thing that matter is eating a style that sets you up for success. If that is paleo or veggies or iifym or anything go, the great.

ldula88

Paleo works really well in the long term. I've been Paleo for quite a while now, and I love it! Of course, once I found out I have no food intolerances, I eat a bit more "Primal" now than true Paleo... I added full fat dairy in, and about once every few weeks I'll have a meal with grains in it, like pizza, etc. I find the people who tell you it's dangerous don't really understand it. Your body does not need as many carbs as you get on the SAD, it just doesn't. Cutting out grains is not dangerous for you, you can get every vitamin and micronutrient from lean meats, healthy fats like nut butters, vegetables, fruits, and if you eat Primal, dairy. And Paleo is not necessarily low carb, although if you're in it for weight loss it's a good idea to start out that way.

There are also those who claim they "could never give up grain and processed food." If you have the willpower to stick to a "diet", why can't you make a life change that is way healthier in the long run? It's just an excuse. Really, after a few weeks you don't even miss the grains and processed crap. When done right, Paleo is very healthy and sustainable. And it's not even that expensive. You don't have to buy all organic, grass fed, fee range everything. Paleo purists will disagree, but changing to a whole foods diet is hugely beneficial, even without going full organic. There is no way in the world a diet that includes chemicals and processed foods is just as healthy as a whole foods diet, even if the calories and macros are identical. It's not possible that eating chemicals is good for your body in the long run, even f you can lose weight that way. Best of luck!!!

AJ_G

After doing some research on this, it doesn't really matter. You can eat whatever you want so long as you are logging in less calories than you need for your body to maintain. It really is THAT simple.

I agree and that's why IIFYM works. It is simple to follow I get it, but to infer that eating clean has no more health benefits than just eating whatever you want as long as it fits into your calories is just lazy and ignorant. I'm not saying to not have that ice cream bar, I'm just saying don't fool yourself into thinking it doesn't come with some sort of consequence. Find what works for you, do your research. I hope some links and this discussion had helped answer OP's question.

You didn't read my last post at all, did you?

I did. Did you read that simply shredded link?

Yea I did. That diet plan is absolutely ridiculous. Eliminate grains, eliminate gluten, it implements carb cycling, stipulates how often to eat and meal limits. This is a diet plan for a bodybuilder trying to get down to sub 6% body fat for a competition, not 99% of the population that is trying to get in shape and get to a healthy weight. If this is supposed to be your evidence, find something else to back up your claims...