I heard they cancelled school in Florida today
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People in warm places also are confused by people from cold weather applying sunscreen when it is in the low 90s, but again cold weather people's bodies aren't ready for that kind of Sun exposure.
What?
Temperature has nothing to do with getting a sunburn ...
Sorry I figured the implied sun was obvious (with mentioning sun exposure), but I was wrong.
People in warm places are confused by visitors to their warm weather areas who apply sunscreen when they are out on the beach, and the sun is out but isn't very hot to cause the natives to use sunscreen because their skin is used to it.
you can get burnt in the Antartic (quiet badly actually)
you can also burn on hazy days (often and quiet badly people do)
has NOTHING to do with temperature. I use sunblock constantly any time I'm out side - or expect to be outside for more than 5-10 minutes.0 -
cancelled in my county too (suburb of Atlanta) because of the windchill factor…. high is 26 today
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Um ... my fiance grew up in West Palm and he wears sunscreen at the beach, no matter the temperature. You can get sunburned in 20 degrees if the sun is out (I have).People in warm places also are confused by people from cold weather applying sunscreen when it is in the low 90s, but again cold weather people's bodies aren't ready for that kind of Sun exposure.
What?
Temperature has nothing to do with getting a sunburn ...
Sorry I figured the implied sun was obvious (with mentioning sun exposure), but I was wrong.
People in warm places are confused by visitors to their warm weather areas who apply sunscreen when they are out on the beach, and the sun is out but isn't very hot to cause the natives to use sunscreen because their skin is used to it.
It isn't the temperature that's the issue. It's the intensity of the sun's rays, which are stronger closer to the equator. But people who live in FL and spend time at the beach -- even the most dedicated sunbathers -- use sunscreen or they are sorry later. I've never heard anyone be surprised about people putting on sunscreen.
Some of people aren't fair skinned and their skin is used to that temperature/sun exposure and applying sunscreen is really not that beneficial. Hence why some people are confused by the application of Sun screen. I really don't know how to explain it any clearer.0 -
Cancelled schools today and delayed tomorrow here in Southern TN due to the winter weather we are having. Yesterday the high was 12.... according to the thermometer at my work. And also the local courthouse was closed as well. Lol!! Our area gets in a panic when snow is even forecasted & are paralyzed when it actually does snow!0
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My African-American, Florida native friends wear sunscreen at the beach. And they get sunburned.
Um ... my fiance grew up in West Palm and he wears sunscreen at the beach, no matter the temperature. You can get sunburned in 20 degrees if the sun is out (I have).People in warm places also are confused by people from cold weather applying sunscreen when it is in the low 90s, but again cold weather people's bodies aren't ready for that kind of Sun exposure.
What?
Temperature has nothing to do with getting a sunburn ...
Sorry I figured the implied sun was obvious (with mentioning sun exposure), but I was wrong.
People in warm places are confused by visitors to their warm weather areas who apply sunscreen when they are out on the beach, and the sun is out but isn't very hot to cause the natives to use sunscreen because their skin is used to it.
It isn't the temperature that's the issue. It's the intensity of the sun's rays, which are stronger closer to the equator. But people who live in FL and spend time at the beach -- even the most dedicated sunbathers -- use sunscreen or they are sorry later. I've never heard anyone be surprised about people putting on sunscreen.
Some of people aren't fair skinned and their skin is used to that temperature/sun exposure and applying sunscreen is really not that beneficial. Hence why some people are confused by the application of Sun screen. I really don't know how to explain it any clearer.
My daughter's Iranian friend wears it.
My best friend who goes to tanning beds several times a week still applies sunscreen at the beach.
I honestly don't know anyone who doesn't.0 -
Sorry I figured the implied sun was obvious (with mentioning sun exposure), but I was wrong.
People in warm places are confused by visitors to their warm weather areas who apply sunscreen when they are out on the beach, and the sun is out but isn't very hot to cause the natives to use sunscreen because their skin is used to it.
:huh:
This makes zero sense. So what if you're a "warm climate" person. It doesn't make your skin "used to" the sun. You can still get sun burned regardless. I have friends who live in Florida, have lived there all their lives and guess what? They still get sunburned! And just because the sun is out but it's "not hot" doesn't mean one can't get burned. You can get sunburn when it's hazy out and the sun isn't even shining.
People who are not fair skinned still tan and burn for that matter.
ETA: The only way one will not burn or tan is if their skin is lacking melanin.0 -
People in warm places also are confused by people from cold weather applying sunscreen when it is in the low 90s, but again cold weather people's bodies aren't ready for that kind of Sun exposure.
What?
Temperature has nothing to do with getting a sunburn ...
Sorry I figured the implied sun was obvious (with mentioning sun exposure), but I was wrong.
People in warm places are confused by visitors to their warm weather areas who apply sunscreen when they are out on the beach, and the sun is out but isn't very hot to cause the natives to use sunscreen because their skin is used to it.
you can get burnt in the Antartic (quiet badly actually)
you can also burn on hazy days (often and quiet badly people do)
has NOTHING to do with temperature. I use sunblock constantly any time I'm out side - or expect to be outside for more than 5-10 minutes.
In the Antarctic you are pretty much walking on a mirror that isn't absorbing as much of the UV rays and reflecting them back up.
I'm not sure if you are serious or just being sarcastic, temperature has a lot to do with sunburns. Sunburn is caused by your skin being exposed to the UV rays from the sun, the more UV rays hitting the area is what causes the temperature to rise. So, being outside when the temperature is high you better believe that you are more likely to be exposed to more UV rays.
I really think I'm being trolled hard otherwise I may have just entered the twilight zone.0 -
Sorry I figured the implied sun was obvious (with mentioning sun exposure), but I was wrong.
People in warm places are confused by visitors to their warm weather areas who apply sunscreen when they are out on the beach, and the sun is out but isn't very hot to cause the natives to use sunscreen because their skin is used to it.
:huh:
This makes zero sense. So what if you're a "warm climate" person. It doesn't make your skin "used to" the sun. You can still get sun burned regardless. I have friends who live in Florida, have lived there all their lives and guess what? They still get sunburned! And just because the sun is out but it's "not hot" doesn't mean one can't get burned. You can get sunburn when it's hazy out and the sun isn't even shining.
People who are not fair skinned still tan and burn for that matter.
ETA: The only way one will not burn or tan is if their skin is lacking melanin.
Your skin does get more used to it and you don't burn as easily when you live somewhere with stronger sun. I grew up in New York (where, BTW, temperatures in the summer can be in the 100s or the 30s, depending on the day -- the sun's rays are just as strong regardless). When I lived there and visited FL I burned super easy, no matter what. Now that I've been down here a while, I can get away with no sunscreen (and I have very fair skin) for a good hour without burning. But I can't go longer than that. Sunscreen is more effective now, however.
But I certainly still need sunscreen, even if my tolerance is higher.0 -
In Minnesota -50 wind chill will warm up to 0 degrees and balmy 35 degrees on Sunday. A 50 or 60 degree switch. Not bad for Minnesota.0
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My African-American, Florida native friends wear sunscreen at the beach. And they get sunburned.
Um ... my fiance grew up in West Palm and he wears sunscreen at the beach, no matter the temperature. You can get sunburned in 20 degrees if the sun is out (I have).People in warm places also are confused by people from cold weather applying sunscreen when it is in the low 90s, but again cold weather people's bodies aren't ready for that kind of Sun exposure.
What?
Temperature has nothing to do with getting a sunburn ...
Sorry I figured the implied sun was obvious (with mentioning sun exposure), but I was wrong.
People in warm places are confused by visitors to their warm weather areas who apply sunscreen when they are out on the beach, and the sun is out but isn't very hot to cause the natives to use sunscreen because their skin is used to it.
It isn't the temperature that's the issue. It's the intensity of the sun's rays, which are stronger closer to the equator. But people who live in FL and spend time at the beach -- even the most dedicated sunbathers -- use sunscreen or they are sorry later. I've never heard anyone be surprised about people putting on sunscreen.
Some of people aren't fair skinned and their skin is used to that temperature/sun exposure and applying sunscreen is really not that beneficial. Hence why some people are confused by the application of Sun screen. I really don't know how to explain it any clearer.
My daughter's Iranian friend wears it.
My best friend who goes to tanning beds several times a week still applies sunscreen at the beach.
I honestly don't know anyone who doesn't.
You are telling me someone with dark skin who is used to low 90 degree weather got sunburned at the beach even with sunscreen on? Someone forgot to pass this memo to almost everyone around the equator who deals with 110 temperatures regularly. Maybe with aren't dark skinned just in a continuous state of being sunburned that they don't even feel the burn anymore?0 -
No. I'm telling you they use the sunscreen to avoid getting burned.
My African-American, Florida native friends wear sunscreen at the beach. And they get sunburned.
Um ... my fiance grew up in West Palm and he wears sunscreen at the beach, no matter the temperature. You can get sunburned in 20 degrees if the sun is out (I have).People in warm places also are confused by people from cold weather applying sunscreen when it is in the low 90s, but again cold weather people's bodies aren't ready for that kind of Sun exposure.
What?
Temperature has nothing to do with getting a sunburn ...
Sorry I figured the implied sun was obvious (with mentioning sun exposure), but I was wrong.
People in warm places are confused by visitors to their warm weather areas who apply sunscreen when they are out on the beach, and the sun is out but isn't very hot to cause the natives to use sunscreen because their skin is used to it.
It isn't the temperature that's the issue. It's the intensity of the sun's rays, which are stronger closer to the equator. But people who live in FL and spend time at the beach -- even the most dedicated sunbathers -- use sunscreen or they are sorry later. I've never heard anyone be surprised about people putting on sunscreen.
Some of people aren't fair skinned and their skin is used to that temperature/sun exposure and applying sunscreen is really not that beneficial. Hence why some people are confused by the application of Sun screen. I really don't know how to explain it any clearer.
My daughter's Iranian friend wears it.
My best friend who goes to tanning beds several times a week still applies sunscreen at the beach.
I honestly don't know anyone who doesn't.
You are telling me someone with dark skin who is used to low 90 degree weather got sunburned at the beach even with sunscreen on? Someone forgot to pass this memo to almost everyone around the equator who deals with 110 temperatures regularly. Maybe with aren't dark skinned just in a continuous stat of being sunburned that they don't even feel the burn anymore?
Do you seriously believe anything you're saying?
I have a friend who is a very dark-skinned black woman who grew up in FL and spends a lot of time at the beach. We went together and she had been the week before and you could see a tan line where her bathing suit was. It was quite visible. And that was with wearing sunscreen. I'm sorry, but you are not going to win this.
And, really, you have actually witnessed people picking on others for applying sunscreen? Who are these people?0 -
getting up to 115 here in aus
I'm jealous!!!0 -
It was about 18 degrees last night here where I am in north Florida. Some schools in FL are closed today, but nowhere near all of them.0
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No. I'm telling you they use the sunscreen to avoid getting burned.
My African-American, Florida native friends wear sunscreen at the beach. And they get sunburned.
Um ... my fiance grew up in West Palm and he wears sunscreen at the beach, no matter the temperature. You can get sunburned in 20 degrees if the sun is out (I have).People in warm places also are confused by people from cold weather applying sunscreen when it is in the low 90s, but again cold weather people's bodies aren't ready for that kind of Sun exposure.
What?
Temperature has nothing to do with getting a sunburn ...
Sorry I figured the implied sun was obvious (with mentioning sun exposure), but I was wrong.
People in warm places are confused by visitors to their warm weather areas who apply sunscreen when they are out on the beach, and the sun is out but isn't very hot to cause the natives to use sunscreen because their skin is used to it.
It isn't the temperature that's the issue. It's the intensity of the sun's rays, which are stronger closer to the equator. But people who live in FL and spend time at the beach -- even the most dedicated sunbathers -- use sunscreen or they are sorry later. I've never heard anyone be surprised about people putting on sunscreen.
Some of people aren't fair skinned and their skin is used to that temperature/sun exposure and applying sunscreen is really not that beneficial. Hence why some people are confused by the application of Sun screen. I really don't know how to explain it any clearer.
My daughter's Iranian friend wears it.
My best friend who goes to tanning beds several times a week still applies sunscreen at the beach.
I honestly don't know anyone who doesn't.
You are telling me someone with dark skin who is used to low 90 degree weather got sunburned at the beach even with sunscreen on? Someone forgot to pass this memo to almost everyone around the equator who deals with 110 temperatures regularly. Maybe with aren't dark skinned just in a continuous stat of being sunburned that they don't even feel the burn anymore?
Do you seriously believe anything you're saying?
I have a friend who is a very dark-skinned black woman who grew up in FL and spends a lot of time at the beach. We went together and she had been the week before and you could see a tan line where her bathing suit was. It was quite visible. And that was with wearing sunscreen. I'm sorry, but you are not going to win this.
And, really, you have actually witnessed people picking on others for applying sunscreen? Who are these people?
Do I believe what am saying? yes. Do I believe what you are saying? not as much in this case.
Tanning and being sunburned are two different things. Equating the two is like saying a medium raw steak is the same thing as a charcoaled one.
I don't want to win anything, I just made a point and I'm presenting stuff to support it.
The point is in certain warm weather areas when they consider the sun as not being really hot (low 90s and below), applying sunscreen is considered odd and unnecessary (like wearing sunglasses indoors). And this was to present a counter point to someone living in Iowa and being confused by schools closing due to the temperature being barely below 0.
As far as witnessing someone get picked on for doing this, yes. I remember 3 instances and one of them I felt really bad because I partook in the making fun of the person for applying sunscreen in Jamaica on a day I thought was pleasant (it was mid 80s) . It was my roommate at the time and he is from Irish decent and even with the sunscreen and the sun being not very hot, he was bright red by the end of the day and it made the rest of his trip a little bit rough. Also had it happen at Cape Town, our tour guide explicitly laughed and said put that away you don't need it today in such a beautiful day (it was high 90s). Last and most recent time was in Kenya when I was there for work and I put some on my face and neck got questioned about why did I need it (it was over 100).0 -
The sunscreen argument is just getting silly. I was born and raised in Florida. We all know to use sunblock, just like we all know to drink plenty of water. No one looks at anyone crazy for using it any time of the year. Even African-Americans and other dark skinned people can get burned, but not quite as quickly. Either way, UV is UV. Anyone can get skin cancer from UV, even without getting burned.
As far as tribal cultures near the equator, people in African tribes without sunblock available have the sense to get out of the sun or throw on a cover during certain times of the day.
Go read up instead of going back and forth. (It talks about different skin colors getting sunburn as well.)
http://www.skincancer.org/prevention/skin-cancer-and-skin-of-color0 -
As far as witnessing someone get picked on for doing this, yes. I remember 3 instances and one of them I felt really bad because I partook in the making fun of the person for applying sunscreen in Jamaica on a day I thought was pleasant (it was mid 80s) . It was my roommate at the time and he is from Irish decent and even with the sunscreen and the sun being not very hot, he was bright red by the end of the day and it made the rest of his trip a little bit rough. Also had it happen at Cape Town, our tour guide explicitly laughed and said put that away you don't need it today in such a beautiful day (it was high 90s). Last and most recent time was in Kenya when I was there for work and I put some on my face and neck got questioned about why did I need it (it was over 100).
So people who don't understand how the sun works were making fun of people who do.
Gotcha.0 -
As far as witnessing someone get picked on for doing this, yes. I remember 3 instances and one of them I felt really bad because I partook in the making fun of the person for applying sunscreen in Jamaica on a day I thought was pleasant (it was mid 80s) . It was my roommate at the time and he is from Irish decent and even with the sunscreen and the sun being not very hot, he was bright red by the end of the day and it made the rest of his trip a little bit rough. Also had it happen at Cape Town, our tour guide explicitly laughed and said put that away you don't need it today in such a beautiful day (it was high 90s). Last and most recent time was in Kenya when I was there for work and I put some on my face and neck got questioned about why did I need it (it was over 100).
I'm still not quite understanding the fact that, according to you, one can not get sun burn if it's "not that hot out". I have been out in the sun when it was a whopping 70 degrees and I've gotten burned from it. I've been in the sun when it was 90 degrees and I have gotten burned from it. I have been outside when it was cloudy and hazy with absolutely NO sun and have gotten burned from it. Oh and I know people who have been skiing in extremely cold weather and have gotten sunburn on their face.
So again. Not understanding what the temperature has to do with whether or not one gets burned.0 -
In the Antarctic you are pretty much walking on a mirror that isn't absorbing as much of the UV rays and reflecting them back up.
Right there you just knocked your position, that likely hood of sunburn has to do with high temperatures, right out of the water. :huh:0 -
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In the Antarctic you are pretty much walking on a mirror that isn't absorbing as much of the UV rays and reflecting them back up.
Right there you just knocked your position, that likely hood of sunburn has to do with high temperatures, right out of the water. :huh:
Do you know what my position is?0 -
Being from Florida and having many facebook friends from there also, my newsfeed was jammed packed with people complaining about the weather. My murder tendencies were at an all time high this morning
Ry, I so know exaclty what you mean, and since you're only an hour from me I know the cold you are experiencing! They were complaing last week about the cold and it as funny at first. Now it's just a little crazy!0 -
You have stated several times that the hotter it is, the stronger the sun is.In the Antarctic you are pretty much walking on a mirror that isn't absorbing as much of the UV rays and reflecting them back up.
Right there you just knocked your position, that likely hood of sunburn has to do with high temperatures, right out of the water. :huh:
Do you know what my position is?
Well, let me tell you about New York state, where in the summer, one day it can be 100 degrees and the next, it's 30. And the sun can be out both days.
You're telling me that in the course of 24 hours, the sun's intensity has decreased so much that the temperatures dropped 70 degrees? Oh, and on day 3, it might be back up to 100. The earth is doing some serious acrobatics on its journey through space, I guess.0 -
As far as witnessing someone get picked on for doing this, yes. I remember 3 instances and one of them I felt really bad because I partook in the making fun of the person for applying sunscreen in Jamaica on a day I thought was pleasant (it was mid 80s) . It was my roommate at the time and he is from Irish decent and even with the sunscreen and the sun being not very hot, he was bright red by the end of the day and it made the rest of his trip a little bit rough. Also had it happen at Cape Town, our tour guide explicitly laughed and said put that away you don't need it today in such a beautiful day (it was high 90s). Last and most recent time was in Kenya when I was there for work and I put some on my face and neck got questioned about why did I need it (it was over 100).
So people who don't understand how the sun works were making fun of people who do.
Gotcha.
The same way someone from Iowa doesn't understand what a little cold can do to someone in Florida. Glad we made a full circle to the original point...0 -
Anyone resident for any length of time in a hot and/or sunny country making fun of someone for putting on sunscreen is more likely to be doing so as a revenge for the person having annoyed them, not because they think applying sunscreen is crazy.
As a resident in a relatively warm tourist place people are more likely to try to convince tourists to put something on because our sunlight here is quite deceptive.
I, personally, stop a couple people every year to suggest they either cover up or put sunscreen on because I know how badly they're going to be burned.
Edited to add: I have long threatened that if we ever get to freezing I'm calling in sick and walking out to the main road to watch the idiots try to drive in those conditions.0 -
Actually, no. Because how hot it is has nothing to do with needing sunscreen. Your example is flawed.As far as witnessing someone get picked on for doing this, yes. I remember 3 instances and one of them I felt really bad because I partook in the making fun of the person for applying sunscreen in Jamaica on a day I thought was pleasant (it was mid 80s) . It was my roommate at the time and he is from Irish decent and even with the sunscreen and the sun being not very hot, he was bright red by the end of the day and it made the rest of his trip a little bit rough. Also had it happen at Cape Town, our tour guide explicitly laughed and said put that away you don't need it today in such a beautiful day (it was high 90s). Last and most recent time was in Kenya when I was there for work and I put some on my face and neck got questioned about why did I need it (it was over 100).
So people who don't understand how the sun works were making fun of people who do.
Gotcha.
The same way someone from Iowa doesn't understand what a little cold can do to someone in Florida. Glad we made a full circle to the original point...
You would have been better served pointing out how in the northern winters, when it's 50, people are throwing on their shorts, but in northern summers when it's 50, people are bundled up -- because the temperature swing is jarring.0 -
As far as witnessing someone get picked on for doing this, yes. I remember 3 instances and one of them I felt really bad because I partook in the making fun of the person for applying sunscreen in Jamaica on a day I thought was pleasant (it was mid 80s) . It was my roommate at the time and he is from Irish decent and even with the sunscreen and the sun being not very hot, he was bright red by the end of the day and it made the rest of his trip a little bit rough. Also had it happen at Cape Town, our tour guide explicitly laughed and said put that away you don't need it today in such a beautiful day (it was high 90s). Last and most recent time was in Kenya when I was there for work and I put some on my face and neck got questioned about why did I need it (it was over 100).
So people who don't understand how the sun works were making fun of people who do.
Gotcha.
The same way someone from Iowa doesn't understand what a little cold can do to someone in Florida. Glad we made a full circle to the original point...
Seriously though. Explain to me again how the "temperature" determines whether or not someone gets sunburn.
Several people (including myself) have pointed out the flaws in your argument.0 -
honestly .. WIMPS.0
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You have stated several times that the hotter it is, the stronger the sun is.In the Antarctic you are pretty much walking on a mirror that isn't absorbing as much of the UV rays and reflecting them back up.
Right there you just knocked your position, that likely hood of sunburn has to do with high temperatures, right out of the water. :huh:
Do you know what my position is?
Well, let me tell you about New York state, where in the summer, one day it can be 100 degrees and the next, it's 30. And the sun can be out both days.
You're telling me that in the course of 24 hours, the sun's intensity has decreased so much that the temperatures dropped 70 degrees? Oh, and on day 3, it might be back up to 100. The earth is doing some serious acrobatics on its journey through space, I guess.
You were trying to point out that temperature has nothing to do with using sunscreen and I was saying it was a decent indicator to help you determine if you might need it or not. The hotter it is mean chances are less UV rays are being blocked which means your skin will need extra protection vs when it is cooler weather. Hence, the cooler term is relative to where you live, which in part affects when you apply sunscreen if at all.0 -
I used to live in Miami. Our local movie theater didn't have heat. One weird cold snap, we were bundled like eskimos inside.They probably do not have heating in the schools lol
And some people who live in FL may not even own a warm coat.0 -
You have stated several times that the hotter it is, the stronger the sun is.In the Antarctic you are pretty much walking on a mirror that isn't absorbing as much of the UV rays and reflecting them back up.
Right there you just knocked your position, that likely hood of sunburn has to do with high temperatures, right out of the water. :huh:
Do you know what my position is?
Well, let me tell you about New York state, where in the summer, one day it can be 100 degrees and the next, it's 30. And the sun can be out both days.
You're telling me that in the course of 24 hours, the sun's intensity has decreased so much that the temperatures dropped 70 degrees? Oh, and on day 3, it might be back up to 100. The earth is doing some serious acrobatics on its journey through space, I guess.
You were trying to point out that temperature has nothing to do with using sunscreen and I was saying it was a decent indicator to help you determine if you might need it or not. The hotter it is mean chances are less UV rays are being blocked which means your skin will need extra protection vs when it is cooler weather. Hence, the cooler term is relative to where you live, which in part affects when you apply sunscreen if at all.
Okay. Given the above statement then explain to me how people get sunburned when it's overcast out and the sun isn't shining? I have been on the beach when it is chilly out and it is overcast and I've gotten sunburn. Explain to me how this is possible if, according to you, it's cold out and the UV rays are being blocked by clouds.0
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