Toning Up...

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  • Nachise
    Nachise Posts: 395 Member
    Also, dont forget, if you are doing weight training you may put on weight as muscle weighs more than fat. So i would measure your waist and hips etc as well as weighing yourself! your weight will only be half the story.

    If i was you i would youtube correct ways to squat and deadlift. These compound exercises are great for stomach and all over body strength and toning. do squats and deadlifts twice a week and mix in cardio twice a week.

    Job done

    A pound of muscle and a pound of fat weigh exactly the same. However, a pound of muscle is more dense and compact than a pound of fat. I totally agree with deadlifts and squats. Ab work pays off big-time as well.
  • Jkn921
    Jkn921 Posts: 309 Member
    i too have a problem with my belly fat, i just want it gone!! i am on day 4 of the 30 day shred cause ive seen b4 and after pics and they look awesome!

    Have you noticed any differences at all so far?
  • Holly_Roman_Empire
    Holly_Roman_Empire Posts: 4,440 Member
    Its not a myth though is it...
    Yes, there wont be huge muscle gains compared to eating over your BMR etc etc, but if you are weight training you will break and rebuild stronger muscle fibers, so there is going to be slight muscle gain. Im not talking bulging great muscles, but slight definition and toning of muscles will happen and could indeed lead to an extra pound here or there. Hence, the advice to measure as well as weigh.

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    Slight definition and "toning" isn't building muscle, that is stripping fat from it.

    Also, OP isn't weight training.

    Yes, and also even if the OP was weight training, she would be hard-pressed to put on a pound of muscle that quickly. It just doesn't happen. Especially in a calorie deficit.
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
    I would recommend that you don't maintain too much of a deficit since you're so close to your goal. You should be aiming to lose around .5 pounds a week at this point. If you have a small deficit combined with strength training, you'll see more of the "toning" results you're looking for. And as others have said, definitely start now! The biggest mistake people make is thinking they need to reach their goal weight before they start strength training. You can strength train the whole time you lose weight to end up with a lean, "toned" body rather than just being a smaller version of your previous self!

    Yup! I have 'started' but as I have been busy/under stress with exams, my diet has gone a bit off but should be ok from tomorrow. With the weight training argument, this is my goal:

    To lose the belly fat
    To gain slight definition in my body

    Mainly the belly fat is what I'm concerned with but I thought I'd add weights into now so I can start building the definition as I go along. I've looked at the 30 Day Shred results and they look fantastic - a lot of the body shapes are somewhat similar to mine, my belly fat may be a little less but the results I want are what the 30DS seems to give others which is a combination of weights and cardio

    You can't spot reduce fat. The body will burn fat from wherever it wants to matter the exercise you do. A person can do 10,000 situps, chrunches, planks a day, or do 30DS 3 times in a row, but if your body has fat on other places of the body it wants to burn first, it will.

    Mild caloric deficit + work (cardio and lifting/compound movements) + PATIENCE = the outcome you're looking for.
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
    Its not a myth though is it...
    Yes, there wont be huge muscle gains compared to eating over your BMR etc etc, but if you are weight training you will break and rebuild stronger muscle fibers, so there is going to be slight muscle gain. Im not talking bulging great muscles, but slight definition and toning of muscles will happen and could indeed lead to an extra pound here or there. Hence, the advice to measure as well as weigh.

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    Slight definition and "toning" isn't building muscle, that is stripping fat from it.

    Also, OP isn't weight training.

    Yes, and also even if the OP was weight training, she would be hard-pressed to put on a pound of muscle that quickly. It just doesn't happen. Especially in a calorie deficit.

    Agreed, the only reason I didn't say it is I didn't want to get boxed up by "noob gains"
  • Jkn921
    Jkn921 Posts: 309 Member
    I would recommend that you don't maintain too much of a deficit since you're so close to your goal. You should be aiming to lose around .5 pounds a week at this point. If you have a small deficit combined with strength training, you'll see more of the "toning" results you're looking for. And as others have said, definitely start now! The biggest mistake people make is thinking they need to reach their goal weight before they start strength training. You can strength train the whole time you lose weight to end up with a lean, "toned" body rather than just being a smaller version of your previous self!

    Yup! I have 'started' but as I have been busy/under stress with exams, my diet has gone a bit off but should be ok from tomorrow. With the weight training argument, this is my goal:

    To lose the belly fat
    To gain slight definition in my body

    Mainly the belly fat is what I'm concerned with but I thought I'd add weights into now so I can start building the definition as I go along. I've looked at the 30 Day Shred results and they look fantastic - a lot of the body shapes are somewhat similar to mine, my belly fat may be a little less but the results I want are what the 30DS seems to give others which is a combination of weights and cardio

    You can't spot reduce fat. The body will burn fat from wherever it wants to matter the exercise you do. A person can do 10,000 situps, chrunches, planks a day, or do 30DS 3 times in a row, but if your body has fat on other places of the body it wants to burn first, it will.

    Mild caloric deficit + work (cardio and lifting/compound movements) + PATIENCE = the outcome you're looking for.

    Sorry, yeah I know you can't spot-reduce but that was is my goal so I'll have to wait for that to happen. I was only doing cardio previously but wanted to try something new so got light dumbbells (got my heavier ones at home - I have 2.2kgs and 4.6kgs here)
  • jardimgirl
    jardimgirl Posts: 522 Member
    I haven't noticed anything except my legs and lower "pooch" is sore. its only my 4th day. I really hope i'll get a flat belly by at least July! **fingers-crossed**
  • jardimgirl
    jardimgirl Posts: 522 Member
    and tbh i dont' think that lifting heavy will make it go away. isn't body weight training considered strength training?
  • Holly_Roman_Empire
    Holly_Roman_Empire Posts: 4,440 Member
    and tbh i dont' think that lifting heavy will make it go away. isn't body weight training considered strength training?

    Haha, so many men and women here are evidence that heavy lifting will help. Yes, body weight training is considered strength training.
  • Holly_Roman_Empire
    Holly_Roman_Empire Posts: 4,440 Member
    not funny

    I laughed.

    I laughed too. Out loud, in fact.
  • Capt_Apollo
    Capt_Apollo Posts: 9,026 Member

    You can't really gain muscle and lose fat at the same time.

    sort of true. you can strength train and burn fat while eating at a deficit. you can get stronger while lifting and eating at a deficit.

    you might not be able to build big muscles doing this long term though. noob gains are a real thing, and can last for months.
  • Capt_Apollo
    Capt_Apollo Posts: 9,026 Member
    and tbh i dont' think that lifting heavy will make it go away. isn't body weight training considered strength training?

    you know what would be better? if you tried a strength training program (any program, body weight or barbell) and came back in seven months and then told us it didn't work.
  • jardimgirl
    jardimgirl Posts: 522 Member
    Wow didn't know I couldn't state an opinion I had without all the "lift things up and put them down" juice heads being snarky. I understand that many have done great but not EVERYONE will get into that stuff. Geese ppl calm down:explode:
  • Capt_Apollo
    Capt_Apollo Posts: 9,026 Member
    Wow didn't know I couldn't state an opinion I had without all the "lift things up and put them down" juice heads being snarky. I understand that many have done great but not EVERYONE will get into that stuff. Geese ppl calm down:explode:

    the only one getting snarky right now is you.
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member

    You can't really gain muscle and lose fat at the same time.

    sort of true. you can strength train and burn fat while eating at a deficit. you can get stronger while lifting and eating at a deficit.

    you might not be able to build big muscles doing this long term though. noob gains are a real thing, and can last for months.

    So you agree then?
  • Capt_Apollo
    Capt_Apollo Posts: 9,026 Member

    You can't really gain muscle and lose fat at the same time.

    sort of true. you can strength train and burn fat while eating at a deficit. you can get stronger while lifting and eating at a deficit.

    you might not be able to build big muscles doing this long term though. noob gains are a real thing, and can last for months.

    So you agree then?

    yes. i was just trying to clear things up for some people that think they need to be eating at a surplus if they are going to strength train.
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member

    You can't really gain muscle and lose fat at the same time.

    sort of true. you can strength train and burn fat while eating at a deficit. you can get stronger while lifting and eating at a deficit.

    you might not be able to build big muscles doing this long term though. noob gains are a real thing, and can last for months.

    So you agree then?

    yes. i was just trying to clear things up for some people that think they need to be eating at a surplus if they are going to strength train.

    Perfect.
  • Holly_Roman_Empire
    Holly_Roman_Empire Posts: 4,440 Member
    Wow didn't know I couldn't state an opinion I had without all the "lift things up and put them down" juice heads being snarky. I understand that many have done great but not EVERYONE will get into that stuff. Geese ppl calm down:explode:

    I hardly consider myself a "juice head" (I don't even drink juice, but okay...?)

    Not everyone is excited to start strength training, but the results are usually what "gets them into that stuff." Have you even tried it?
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    not funny

    I laughed.

    I laughed too.
  • DamePiglet
    DamePiglet Posts: 3,730 Member
    Are you hitting on my cute newbie, coc?

    She's trying to lose a couple of ponds in 7 months. Not exactly trying to drop 90 lbs in 2 weeks with a cleanse.
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    Yeah, I don't drink juice either. But if you want to really "tone" up, the only way to do that is to "lift things up and put them down." Cardio will only get you so far, and can result in "skinny-fat" instead of "toned."


    (ETA: lift *heavy* things, that is....lifting a beer or a glass of juice doesn't help)
  • DamePiglet
    DamePiglet Posts: 3,730 Member
    Yeah, I don't drink juice either. But if you want to really "tone" up, the only way to do that is to "lift things up and put them down." Cardio will only get you so far, and can result in "skinny-fat" instead of "toned."

    Sorry honey, but no.

    Resistance isn't always lifting heavy things & putting them down, and resistance works just dandy.

    "Honey" isn't meant sassy, btw. I'm in mom mode right now IRL, so everyone is "honey" right now.
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member

    Yeah, I don't drink juice either. But if you want to really "tone" up, the only way to do that is to "lift things up and put them down." Cardio will only get you so far, and can result in "skinny-fat" instead of "toned."

    Sorry honey, but no.

    Resistance isn't always lifting heavy things & putting them down, and resistance works just dandy.

    "Honey" isn't meant sassy, btw. I'm in mom mode right now IRL, so everyone is "honey" right now.
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    resistance training =/= cardio :flowerforyou:
  • Holly_Roman_Empire
    Holly_Roman_Empire Posts: 4,440 Member
    Well that escalated quickly.
  • delicious_cocktail
    delicious_cocktail Posts: 5,797 Member
    But you don't get to do anything about that either, do ya?

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    You're arguing in your misunderstanding and I think it is delicious.

    To relay an anecdote, I was in an airport waiting for a flight. I had purchased an absurdly overpriced package of potato chips and a bottled water. In that little food court area all the tables were taken but there was one seat free at a two-top where a woman was sitting reading the paper and drinking a coffee.

    I politely asked her if I could sit and she cordially obliged me. I set my drink down and got the novel I was reading out of my carry-on and started to read.

    After a few moments I opened my bag of chips and ate one. In my peripheral vision I caught that she was looking at me over the paper and she reached over and took a chip out of my bag and sort of made a point of eating it. Didn't say a word, just took it and crunched it.

    I was a little weirded out but figured that was the 'table tax' or something in her world. I pulled the bag back toward me, kept reading and took another few chips.

    She pulled it back toward her, now actually glaring at me, and in an angry way took a handful of chips out and shoved them in her mouth.

    It was the strangest thing. So, we silently warred over the potato chips until the bag was nearly empty and then she just shoved it at me and stormed off.

    Very confused, I just let her go, finished what was left of the bag, and went over to the departure lounge for my plane.

    When they were beginning to board the plane I went into my carry-on for my ticket and found my bag of potato chips.

    Boy did I feel like a dumbass.

    Have a great night sweetheart.
  • jardimgirl
    jardimgirl Posts: 522 Member
    well then, i feel dumb :blushing: totally read and took it the wrong way. my apologies
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    and tbh i dont' think that lifting heavy will make it go away. isn't body weight training considered strength training?

    you know what would be better? if you tried a strength training program (any program, body weight or barbell) and came back in seven months and then told us it didn't work.

    +1...

    ...because it works...

    ...and some of them don't even like it *at first*...

    ...and probably a few of them still don't like it, but they do it anyhow because...

    ...(yeah)...

    ...it works.
  • delicious_cocktail
    delicious_cocktail Posts: 5,797 Member
    well then, i feel dumb :blushing: totally read and took it the wrong way. my apologies

    I allowed something to escalate which did not need to escalate.

    Thank you for saying that I look like I'm on steroids. I've worked quite hard for that.

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  • Achrya
    Achrya Posts: 16,913 Member
    Never mind.

    Meatballs.
  • MyChocolateDiet
    MyChocolateDiet Posts: 22,281 Member
    well then, i feel dumb :blushing: totally read and took it the wrong way. my apologies

    In the future, try to ALWAYS re-read anything with the most positive possibilities. It will get you far on these threads.

    Noob tip #1 from me today. Well only noob tip today from me. :flowerforyou:
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