The No S diet

wheird

Gigglesnort

randomtai

I did the no s diet and lost some weight. It was the only diet i ever stuck to for that long. I stayed on it for two months and I lost 10 pounds. I really would recommend it.

Then what happened?

IHateThinkingOfAUsername

I'll pass thank you.

No Snacks. - Fail - most days I have an clementine as a snack, sometimes even *gasp* a packet of crisps (potato chips)
No Sweets - FAIL (and glad!) - every day I have some chocolate.
No Seconds - actually I can probably achieve this one - but only because I pile my plate up enough to fill me up on the first sitting.

Awww man - I've fallen for a resurrected thread. It was the 'no sweets' part of the OP - got me riled I didn't check the postdate! Grr.

gypsy_spirit

Have you ever heard of it, the website says

"The No S Diet, also known as the "Grandma Diet," the "Why Didn't I Think of that Diet," and the "No $ Diet" is a program of systematic moderation I invented for myself that I imagine might work for similarly minded people.

No funny science or calorie accounting involved, just a few simple and mnemonic tricks for building sustainably "good enough" eating habits.

There are just three rules and one exception:

No Snacks
No Sweets
No Seconds"

I see the three rules - but what's the one exception? I gained weight eating everything - not just sweets and snacks. I have been very successful with the "funny" science and calorie counting - to the tune of a little over 100 pounds. It took 2 years - but who cares - I wanted to be here for those 2 years anyway.

Best of luck! Let us know how this works for you! :drinker:

NaomiJFoster

For gimmicky mnemonics, I am enjoying thinking about the Pros. A bit more Protein, a bit more Produce, a bit less Processed foods.

Myhaloslipped

I had a nice Grandma! She let me have all of these things.

_Zardoz_

Have you ever heard of it, the website says

"The No S Diet, also known as the "Grandma Diet," the "Why Didn't I Think of that Diet," and the "No $ Diet" is a program of systematic moderation I invented for myself that I imagine might work for similarly minded people.

No funny science or calorie accounting involved, just a few simple and mnemonic tricks for building sustainably "good enough" eating habits.

There are just three rules and one exception:

No Snacks
No Sweets
No Seconds"

I'm on a diet not invented by me that is even simpler than yours it has one it's called the common sense diet it has one simple rule The rule is

Eat less food

HTH

BenjaminMFP88

So, If I eat an entire large pizza to myself, that passes every test right?

lemurcat12

Have you ever heard of it, the website says

"The No S Diet, also known as the "Grandma Diet," the "Why Didn't I Think of that Diet," and the "No $ Diet" is a program of systematic moderation I invented for myself that I imagine might work for similarly minded people.

No funny science or calorie accounting involved, just a few simple and mnemonic tricks for building sustainably "good enough" eating habits.

There are just three rules and one exception:

No Snacks
No Sweets
No Seconds"

I think the "food environment" has changed since the days of our grand mothers and great grand mothers. Whereas they used to cook with lard, and not crisco. They used butter, not margarine. Coca cola servings were tiny in comparison to our "big gulp" sizes, and were occasional treats as opposed to every day or every meal. Egg omelettes used to contained the yolks, and not the bland, pale white egg omelettes of today. Homemade bread with a slather of butter and homemade preserves were eaten, instead of cosmetically engineered pop tarts. Pieces of chicken actually looked like pieces of chicken, while today you can nuke processed chicken pieces that are formed in the shape of rockets and dinosaurs. Fruit was consumed as it came off the tree it was picked from, and not a strip of colourful sweet leather devoid of the original fiber and nutrient content. Bacon came from pigs, and not turkeys. Meatballs were made from fatty ground meat, and not GMO soy tofu. And beef used to come from cows that ate lots of grass, and not pumped up with hormones and stuffed with GMO grain feed. Snout to tail eating was more common, as opposed to the nothing but chicken breast eating of today. And cheese was made from whole milk, as opposed to the rubbery disgusting fat free cheese of today.

I have made the choice to eat whole foods, limit the processed crap, not fear the fat content in foods, and limit the type of foods that increase my food cravings. As a result, I naturally eat less (no seconds), I don't need to snack, and I don't need the sweets, as I am satiated with the right foods.

None of your claims about how people eat today describe how I eat, either now or when I was gaining weight.

Over generalize much?

SingRunTing

So, If I eat an entire large pizza to myself, that passes every test right?

Nope.

I did this diet for a while after a friend of mine lost 60 lbs on it (oh, and she kept it off). Most of the people on the forums there who've been successful have kept the weight off long term.

The rules are slightly more complex than what the description leads you to believe. Not incredibly so, you can figure them out by reading for 10 minutes on the website. And its all free info, he doesn't make any money off of it. The diet website is not his source of income.

Anywho, it's no seconds, snacks, or sweets except sometimes on days that begin with s.

Basically, three meals a day M-F, then you can indulge a little on weekends (he sums up weekend eating by have some treats, but "don't be an idiot"). The three meals should be one plate of food. So, no, one pizza does not count as a meal unless it's a very small personal sized pizza.

Lots of people have success on it because by following the rules, they've create a small calorie deficit (this diet does not promise to make you lose weight quickly) and can follow it without counting calories forever. That's a very attractive option for many people. It's a diet of moderation.

I tried it for a while. I wasn't able to find the right balance that would make me lose. But for a lot of people on the forums, the trick for losing the weight for them was cutting out their "nightly ice cream" and making it a "weekend ice cream". I don't think that's crazy at all.

I'm on a diet not invented by me that is even simpler than yours it has one it's called the common sense diet it has one simple rule The rule is

Eat less food

HTH

That's pretty much what this diet is too. He targets the "egregious offenders" (whatever it is that you personally overindulge in) and says make it a sometimes food by only eating it on weekends.

Strange_magic

That sounds stupid

Oh yeah.

Stupid starts with an S

DisinteGr4tion

eat in a deficit
work out/lift heavy
hit macros
eat whatever you want within moderation

THIS

DamePiglet

AllOutof_Bubblegum

So I can eat 5,000 calories a day and still lose weight as long as it is savory foods, during a proper meal time and I have a really big plate. Sounds legit.

This. The whole idea is inherently flawed.

SingRunTing

So I can eat 5,000 calories a day and still lose weight as long as it is savory foods, during a proper meal time and I have a really big plate. Sounds legit.

This. The whole idea is inherently flawed.

This diet is for people who just need a little restructuring to help them cut down on the amount that they eat (basically, they eat reasonable meals, but snack way too much). You are expected to use common sense to say "Is this a reasonable meal?". Its pointed out to you that if you stretch the rules the way you are suggesting, that you will remain fat. Its not glossed over, they are very frank about that. You have to eat "normal" sized meals. It works for some people and I give it credit for that.

However, this is the reason that I'm here on this website and calorie counting instead of still trying No S. I need more structure than that. I need to count calories to know how much I'm eating and when to stop. I apparently don't have enough common sense to know when enough is enough intuitively.

germanherman2

Normally I try to avoid regular diet-forums, because everybody seems to be an expert regarding nutrition, dieting and exercising… I just don’t understand why they are overweight if they know it all.

Let’s look at this No S Diet: It is systematic moderation. You eat three moderate meals a day and avoid sweets for 5 days the week and can eat whatever you want around the weekend. The use of common sense is expected. Whole generations lived like that but we call it radical or arbitrary?

The problem with these kinds of diets is that they deprive you of the foods you love to eat and so no one is able to stick to them for long.
People might try them for a few weeks (if that), lose a few lbs, then quit because they can't do it anymore. Then they binge on snacks, sweets, and seconds until all the weight comes back.

Thank you good sir for that insight. What is your definition of long? Because it is a moderate style of eating, and not a diet like the modern concept suggest. There are people that eating that way for years (some testimonials are in the forum of the site). They reach their weight-goal and keep eating that way. Why would they do it if the diet is so depriving?

So I can eat 5,000 calories a day and still lose weight as long as it is savory foods, during a proper meal time and I have a really big plate. Sounds legit.

Nope. The diet based on common sense and moderation. So if you take big plates to eat huge amounts of food three times the day you are not eating in a No S diet style, you just try to avoid the moderation.

While I applaud your enthusiasm, this diet is too arbitrary to do anyone any good.

And I applaud your wisdom! I’ve been eating that way for around 3 years now. I lost 85 pounds, reached a single digit bodyfat and stay in the best shape of my life. But you are right, I’m still waiting for the “good” to come around…
Before the naysayers arrive: Of course do I exercise/train and be active all around. But a good way of eating is an important part of that.

here is a better one.

eat in a deficit
work out/lift heavy
hit macros
eat whatever you want within moderation - I like the 80/20 rule…80% health and 20% whatever you want….

Well, that’s great. Good thing, that No S Diet is all about moderation. I would like to cut the “work out/lift heavy” part, because we are talking about a diet here. Three moderate meals every weekday result in a deficit, at least if you are overweight. The format (or macro-composition) of your meals is free, except sweets. That way most people tend to eat pretty balanced meals most of the time.

So, If I eat an entire large pizza to myself, that passes every test right?

Nope. You failed regarding moderation and common sense.

chris2365

Sure, you can game any food plan. That means you're probably not ready to lose weight. I've read up on the plan and as some others have mentioned, it makes sense. It goes back to a simple way of eating that allows you to practice moderation without a bunch of time-consuming rules and calculations.

Some people thrive on the obsessive nature of calculating calories, nutrients, points, etc. And frankly, it's hard to break away from that. But some people are ready for a sane, humane way of eating that let's them eat delightful foods but not too much.

The plan allows for special occasions. It allows for eating out with friends. It allows for a self-indulgent sick day if needed.

When you know that you're allowed a plate of food for your meal, you may find that you're more deliberate with what you choose, at least I am. I want to make sure that what I'm eating is filling, healthy, and delicious. If I'm eating every three hours or counting my calories, I personally am a little less likely to make each meal an occasion to fuel my body in a way that is also pleasing.

So ignore those who provided a snarky answer without actually knowing more about the plan. It won't work for everyone but for those who give it a real try, it may be a lifelong solution.

chris2365

For another perspective, check out this blog post: http://www.conversiondiary.com/2008/06/some-thoughts-on-gluttony.html. Note, the article comes from a religious site, but the blog post is pertinent to everyone (the comments get a little deep into the other side, as my agnostic saw).

nvpixie

Eh, I don't eat sweets, and I typically don't snack, and I NEVER have seconds and I got fat.

Same here. I gained weight because I was eating large meals to the point of being overfull on a daily basis. I would always finish my meal even after I was already satisfied. So it seems I simply took in too many calories each meal. It wasn't the types of food or meal timing, just too much food.

115s

1 & 2, no way. Seconds, I no longer have as I tend to get full rather quickly now.
This would not work for me lol. Glad it works for you!

PikaKnight

Some people thrive on the obsessive nature of calculating calories, nutrients, points, etc. And frankly, it's hard to break away from that. But some people are ready for a sane, humane way of eating that let's them eat delightful foods but not too much.

So counting calories isn't a sane way to control your intake? I understand it isn't a good method for some (short or long term) but for many it is routine, not obsessive and certainly just as sane as any other way of eating. Inferring that it is a crazy attitude/behaviour to have is a bit judgmental, in my opinion, and I'll say that just as you stated some people aren't fully aware of what the S diet is/entails, the same can be said to you if you think calorie counting is only obsessive and not sane

As for the humane way of eating comment...there's an inhumane way to eat? :laugh:

MissHolidayGolightly

What about second breakfast? What about elevenses? Luncheon? Afternoon tea? Dinner? Supper? He knows about them, doesn't he?

:laugh: You forgot Linner/Lupper, though.

chris2365

Yowsers, PikaKnight, didn't mean to make you mad. I indicated 'a' not 'the.' I'm stepping down from the topic, not fond of the drama. I should have just stuck with the party line that this might work for some, not others (but some people may want to give it a chance).

randomtai

Yowsers, PikaKnight, didn't mean to make you mad. I indicated 'a' not 'the.' I'm stepping down from the topic, not fond of the drama. I should have just stuck with the party line that this might work for some, not others (but some people may want to give it a chance).

hookilau

For gimmicky mnemonics, I am enjoying thinking about the Pros. A bit more Protein, a bit more Produce, a bit less Processed foods.

:laugh: :drinker:

hookilau

So, If I eat an entire large pizza to myself, that passes every test right?

Nope.

I did this diet for a while after a friend of mine lost 60 lbs on it (oh, and she kept it off). Most of the people on the forums there who've been successful have kept the weight off long term.

The rules are slightly more complex than what the description leads you to believe. Not incredibly so, you can figure them out by reading for 10 minutes on the website. And its all free info, he doesn't make any money off of it. The diet website is not his source of income.

Anywho, it's no seconds, snacks, or sweets except sometimes on days that begin with s.

Basically, three meals a day M-F, then you can indulge a little on weekends (he sums up weekend eating by have some treats, but "don't be an idiot"). The three meals should be one plate of food. So, no, one pizza does not count as a meal unless it's a very small personal sized pizza.

Lots of people have success on it because by following the rules, they've create a small calorie deficit (this diet does not promise to make you lose weight quickly) and can follow it without counting calories forever. That's a very attractive option for many people. It's a diet of moderation.

I tried it for a while. I wasn't able to find the right balance that would make me lose. But for a lot of people on the forums, the trick for losing the weight for them was cutting out their "nightly ice cream" and making it a "weekend ice cream". I don't think that's crazy at all.

I'm on a diet not invented by me that is even simpler than yours it has one it's called the common sense diet it has one simple rule The rule is

Eat less food

HTH

That's pretty much what this diet is too. He targets the "egregious offenders" (whatever it is that you personally overindulge in) and says make it a sometimes food by only eating it on weekends.

Actually, this sounds pretty sensible. Requires one to use common sense.
:drinker:

hookilau

So, If I eat an entire large pizza to myself, that passes every test right?

Nope.

I did this diet for a while after a friend of mine lost 60 lbs on it (oh, and she kept it off). Most of the people on the forums there who've been successful have kept the weight off long term.

The rules are slightly more complex than what the description leads you to believe. Not incredibly so, you can figure them out by reading for 10 minutes on the website. And its all free info, he doesn't make any money off of it. The diet website is not his source of income.

Anywho, it's no seconds, snacks, or sweets except sometimes on days that begin with s.

Basically, three meals a day M-F, then you can indulge a little on weekends (he sums up weekend eating by have some treats, but "don't be an idiot"). The three meals should be one plate of food. So, no, one pizza does not count as a meal unless it's a very small personal sized pizza.

Lots of people have success on it because by following the rules, they've create a small calorie deficit (this diet does not promise to make you lose weight quickly) and can follow it without counting calories forever. That's a very attractive option for many people. It's a diet of moderation.

I tried it for a while. I wasn't able to find the right balance that would make me lose. But for a lot of people on the forums, the trick for losing the weight for them was cutting out their "nightly ice cream" and making it a "weekend ice cream". I don't think that's crazy at all.

I'm on a diet not invented by me that is even simpler than yours it has one it's called the common sense diet it has one simple rule The rule is

Eat less food

HTH

That's pretty much what this diet is too. He targets the "egregious offenders" (whatever it is that you personally overindulge in) and says make it a sometimes food by only eating it on weekends.

Actually, this sounds pretty sensible. Requires one to use common sense.
:drinker:

Yowsers, PikaKnight, didn't mean to make you mad. I indicated 'a' not 'the.' I'm stepping down from the topic, not fond of the drama. I should have just stuck with the party line that this might work for some, not others (but some people may want to give it a chance).

o wait...we're not doing that anymore?
ok.

Graelwyn75

So I can eat 5,000 calories a day and still lose weight as long as it is savory foods, during a proper meal time and I have a really big plate. Sounds legit.

I prefer the common sense approach, involving everything in moderation, balance, and listening to one's body properly.

Wantingtolose1

I have tried this diet numerous times because it makes sense at frankly at those times I was over counting calories. I was in a normal bmi but on the higher end and wanted to lose 5-10 kilos. With this diet I never lost weight. I ate mostly healthy homemade meals for my meals and served them on one plate (normal size not huge) and still didn't lose weight but maintained. I think the problem is the weekends. On Sundays when I knew I wouldn't be able to eat sweet for another week I would overindulge. That's why I think the concept is good but there does need to be some restrictions on weekends as well like maybe one sweet/snack. I'm sure it will work for someone that is overweight but for someone that just has a few kilos to lose I don't think the deficit was enough. I now prefer calorie counting cos I can eat what I like as long as I stick to my numbers and lose weight.

msbobbitx

I was browsing through old posts and really like what you had to say. This is excellent.