How to overcome "all or nothing" thinking with food?

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For example, I will start off with a healthy breakfast, and then I get offered pizza for lunch. Food is my weakness, I can't turn down pizza! So I eat a slice and think "well, I blew it for today" and end up eating 3 more slices, a cupcake, chips, french fries, whatever else! It is so hard to maintain a healthy weight when I am constantly thinking like that. I know I can't be the only one, is there anyone else who can help me understand this and how to get over it? What can I say to myself again? I did weight watchers about two years ago and lost 30 pounds, it really did teach me how to eat right, but I had to stop because it got expensive so I have been using myfitnesspal to track my food, but I have gained about 10-15 pounds back since stopping weight watchers (about 5 months ago) because I keep thinking like this. I had the same all or nothing thinking while on weight watchers, but I always pulled it together the next day and would keep it up for a few weeks and maybe have one bad day, but now it seems like this is every day. I wake up, have a healthy breakfast, and then I blow it by lunch. Can anyone give me advice? What else can I say to myself so I can "recover" on the next meal (it is very hard for me to do, because I will track it and I ended up going way over my calories on the "bad" meal and then I just feel like I failed.) I just need some advice and support!!!
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  • hgycta
    hgycta Posts: 3,013 Member
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    I really wish I had an answer for you, but I'm a victim to this same disordered way of thinking unfortunately >.< Hopefully someone has good advice!
    I have improved slightly, though. It's hard, and will take time, but you just can't give up. So far I haven't found a "miracle solution" to make things easier, it just looks like for now the only way to solve this is to tough it out and force yourself to be good.
    Just try to change your thinking. Rather than looking at a day as only a day's "goal," try to imagine the bigger picture. While one high calorie meal may seem like certain failure, throughout the week one meal isn't all that bad, as long as it only stays that one meal on that one day. Just try to realize how every cookie is even more you'll have to burn off later, so if you start eating a pack and going over, by simply closing that pack of cookies and stopping you'll be saving yourself calories and that's better than having to exercise them off later.
    That was a really complicated way to explain what I hope someone will more effectively summarize in 1-2 sentences xD Sorry, I tried :x
  • fruttibiscotti
    fruttibiscotti Posts: 986 Member
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    Track everything. Add everything you eat in your diary. You need to face cold hard facts, look at the data, and not just give up and walk away hoping tomorrow will be better. You cannot improve what you do not measure.
  • csk0018
    csk0018 Posts: 219 Member
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    Food is a battle for me everyday. What has helped me is really trying to plan what I eat before the day starts --- even if a bad meal is incorporated into it. For example, today -- we had already planned to go out for lunch and have burgers and cheese fries so I went out for a bike ride beforehand, only ate 1/2 of my burger and a quarter of the cheese fries and planned for a light dinner. Maybe that will help you if you think that way instead? Don't give up too easily --- just have that 1-2 slices of pizza and balance out how you are going to make up for that the rest of the day.
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,080 Member
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    A slice of pizza or two for lunch every day wouldn't "blow it." If you stop giving "good" or "bad" names to food, you'll find it easier. All foods are allowable, just log them and succeed!
  • ils_1231
    ils_1231 Posts: 249 Member
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    can you still "do" weight watchers? same concept for calorie counting, but just give points to everything you eat? that might help (?)
  • broox80
    broox80 Posts: 1,195 Member
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    I swear its my brain that makes me fat!!! I do this too and I get so pissed at myself. I think Dr. Phil is like the feminine cleansing product, and the bag it comes in. He did however say something that has resonated with me throughout the years. "When it comes to food, if you say the words, may as well, you probably shouldn't! !" This has helped me some since I always would think since I blew it already I may as well eat more and have a free day!!! I still have the all or nothing thinking, but it is much less often than it used to be.
  • spiffychick85
    spiffychick85 Posts: 311 Member
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    For me the best way to circumvent this thinking is to plan ahead and not always put myself in temptations way. Do you bring your lunch pre made? I find if I bring my lunch I am much more likely to stick with my plan. All food is food...not good or bad. The problem comes in when training yourself moderation. You will have to sit and think how bad you want to succeed and stick to your plan. It does get easier once you have been tracking a while. Good luck!
  • zoodocgirl
    zoodocgirl Posts: 163 Member
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    1) Every moment is the opportunity for a new choice.

    It doesn't matter what else you did that day, week, month, year, life. Would you say, "Well, I already ate all of this for the past XX years, so I guess I blew this lifetime, why bother?" What makes a day such an arbitrary measure of diet progress?

    In THIS moment, what decision do you want to make? Think about it, then make it.

    2) It's ok if that decision sometimes is pizza. If it is, own it. Depriving yourself entirely of the things you love will suck. Fit it in your calories and enjoy.
  • jhmomofmany
    jhmomofmany Posts: 571 Member
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    There is no magic bullet. You just have to stop it. Log your food. Eat the pizza but only as it fits your calorie limits. This is me, too, so don't feel like I don't get it. You just have to learn control. It gets better with practice.
  • MrsLannister
    MrsLannister Posts: 347 Member
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    Like others have said, log log log. Also, give yourself permission to eat the foods you want. It might take some time, but after a while you start to realize that one slice of pizza, or a donut, or a candy bar, or a cupcake, or some chips doesn't "blow it." Stop telling yourself you can't have those things. Eat toward a calorie goal and if you want one of those things, have it, but commit to the goal.

    I had a snickers bar today and I enjoyed it. It wasn't "blowing it," by any means. I logged it and adjusted my dinner accordingly. I came in under my goal.
  • kingscrown
    kingscrown Posts: 615 Member
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    Now that i'm 2 years into it all I can say is practice practice practice. Just never give up. It gets easier to some degree. I still have days where I have a hard time, but I don't have weeks, months, years of it being hard any more.
  • lorocks61
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    i pack lunch and snacks for the day. if it's not in the bag, it's not mine.
    if it is something out of the ordinary, i have to track before eating.
    my worst time of the day is when i get home after a stress filled day, and there
    are chips calling to me from the pantry.
    my hubby is a stick and likes to eat to eat them for snacks.
    so far i haven't sucumbed, but everyday is a struggle
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,080 Member
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    lorocks61, this is excellent, never heard that one before. So many people complain about sabotage at work. This solves that.
    I pack lunch and snacks for the day.If it's not in the bag, it's not mine.
  • bellesouth18
    bellesouth18 Posts: 1,072 Member
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    My mantras when I first started:

    1) "Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels."
    2) "You're eating to live now--not living to eat."

    Now I don't have the problem you're facing as often. I managed to change my mindset over time. But lately, I've been having some old issues that keep popping up and have added 10 lbs. since Thanksgiving. I realized that I was getting back into some old habits and have stopped. I started telling myself my mantras again. So far so good.

    Edit: Like one of the posters above me, I packed my own food and would eat just that. I pre logged my whole day in my food diary the night before. Even when I was at home, I tried not to deviate from my planned food.

    Also, I looked in your profile and saw your age. Your diary isn't public, so I don't know how many calories you're trying to eat with your plan. I know many young people especially who are trying to eat next to nothing. If this is you, keep in mind you are still growing and need a balanced diet with a little extra calcium and other nutrients. Eating too much may be your body's signal, telling you it isn't getting enough food at your present calorie level. Try a decent calorie level for a week or two and try to stick with it. Go from there.
  • Mojoman02
    Mojoman02 Posts: 146 Member
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    You have to commit to the idea that you want to lose weight and nothing will stand in your way. It's a commitment to yourself. That being said, pizza here and there will not halt your plans. Food is not Good or Bad, YOU are not Good or Bad. Food is just calories...don't let it flip you out. You can do it!! :smile:
  • donnat238
    donnat238 Posts: 309 Member
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    I also have the all or nothing mindset - or as I call it the PERFECTION mindset. In the past I would get bogged down with the same things....well I had bacon cheeseburger and fries, so the milkshake won't hurt because I've already screwed up and may as well drop the diet, because it's not working. I'll start again on Monday and I will make all of the PERFECT choices then. This was my life for 30 years and I slowly added weight until I was 282 lbs.

    I have finally learned that life is not PERFECT and I will make mistakes, but if I slip up now...I just pick myself up and go back to a sensible eating plan. The biggest help for me was planning out my meals as much as possible and allowing an occasional treat - if I completely get rid of all cheeseburgers or shakes I will fall off the diet wagon.

    Good luck!
  • settingmyselffree
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    I am a food addict and I think the one thing that helped me was a bit radical. The advice my counselor gave me was None is better than One and what she meant by that is for a food addict like myself it is better to have no piece of cake (whatever is your weakness) than one piece that would turn out to be a whole cake worth of slices. I am a food addict so I don't know if this will help, but thought I would share my way of dealing with this demon.
  • 1ZenGirl
    1ZenGirl Posts: 432 Member
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    I wonder if the "all or nothing" thinking comes as a result of labeling foods into "good or bad". The reality is nothing is off limits, rather logging your food and staying within your caloric requirements.

    When I started losing weight I was eating 1200 calories a day and "clean eating" and would wonder why I was failing. I couldn't make it from my healthy breakfast to a healthy lunch. Then I educated myself, and now I eat more (a lot more) and eat whatever I want. I don't feel deprived and I don't feel like I have blown it and therefore I have an eating plan that is sustainable for me.

    I would recommend reading the forums here as a great place to get educated. Use the "search" function and type in "all or nothing thinking" and my guess is you may come up with others that have gone through this as well. There are a lot of great things to learn here.

    You will find your way. Stick with it.
  • b2kelly
    b2kelly Posts: 62
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    You really need to come to terms with yourself and pin point what the motivation is as to why you want to lose weight in the first place. You need to really want it other wise it will not happen. I like to focus on the confidence I feel the closer to my goal I get, it is a great feeling and believe me there is an unspoken energy detected by others when I am staying on track. Stay focused and show restraint, find out what motivates you and project yourself to that place before you make a poor eating decision.
  • b2kelly
    b2kelly Posts: 62
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    Track everything. Add everything you eat in your diary. You need to face cold hard facts, look at the data, and not just give up and walk away hoping tomorrow will be better. You cannot improve what you do not measure.

    Also this is really good advice. I had a huge craving for Doritos the other day like ungodly craving. It was right before bed, I was ready to go get a bag, like an adult sized bag and crush the whole thing like some disgusting animal that should be caged. I simply plugged in what I was about to do to my body into MFP app, was blown away by the damage I would cause and put myself to sleep. I woke up the next day so proud I didn't give in.