Why is MFP adding calories to certain foods?
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Ex: 1 large egg has about 70-75 Calories in it. Why is MFP telling me that 2 fried eggs is 184 calories?!!! I had two eggs today, fried them with coconut oil spray and salt and pepper. I also tried to enter a different type of egg, so I put in scrambled eggs. It said that 3 were like 1,000 some calories -_- that's retarded. Someone please tell me what the heck is going on!
2 eggs = 2 eggs
2 fried eggs = 2 eggs and oil --- which is a guess at best as there are a ton of different oils, random amounts of oil used, etc.
How much does the can of spay say it adds?
Coconut oil is 117cals per tbsp (14grams) so, 8.36 cals per gram.0 -
I just started using this site, it's my second day.
Maybe find a veteran member to befriend. They can help you with how the site works. They can also give you hints about how the forums work. As a polite helpful hint, we're actually not all here for the same reason. Saying that essentially starts riots.
Well, true. I'm seeing tons of people on here for weight gain! But I guess the moral behind that statement was the fact that those that use the community section are here for support or TO support
:flowerforyou:
You have been here two days, I have been here 3 years. I miiight know more about the MFP demographic than you and the forum climates. There is a specific forum for support. The rest ... not so much. You are totally wrong in assuming people who use the community section are here for support or want to provide it to somebody.
Also, you srs might want to check out terms of service -- especially with some of the language you used.
What language? The word retarded?....please.
Also, the entire forum minus a few strains, are based on support. Providing information to someone is giving them support. Asking someone to provide and answer to your question is asking them for support. Searching for information based on someone else has posted is getting support from someone.
I don't understand why people have to be so mean. I asked a simple question and expressed some frustration.
Yes, that particular work. It violates MFP TOS and you will get strikes for using it. Three strikes and you can't post. Providing information is providing information.
And you don't understand why people have to be so mean because you're expecting a specific brand of support that, as I have told you repeatedly, isn't popular here on MFP.0 -
Not everyone is as computer savvy as you, sweetie) So what one finds easy, another may find difficult. Also, I'm sure you don't jump into a new program knowing how to navigate it completely at first. Questions should be welcome and so should concerns/complaints without having a person pop up telling you to get over it. If you don't want to kindly entertain the questions people ask, then don't read the posts.
1. Passive aggressive jabs don't fly here, sweetie. This has been tame compared to what you could have gotten.
2. People are trying to help you navigate this site and you are being defensive about it.
3.Questions are welcome. You cannot expect to control the answers.
4. You don't control how people respond to you, so post thoughtfully.
4. You don't control how people respond to you, so post thoughtfully.
I haven't said anything to you that hasn't been thoughtful.0 -
Not everyone is as computer savvy as you, sweetie) So what one finds easy, another may find difficult. Also, I'm sure you don't jump into a new program knowing how to navigate it completely at first. Questions should be welcome and so should concerns/complaints without having a person pop up telling you to get over it. If you don't want to kindly entertain the questions people ask, then don't read the posts.
1. Passive aggressive jabs don't fly here, sweetie. This has been tame compared to what you could have gotten.
2. People are trying to help you navigate this site and you are being defensive about it.
3.Questions are welcome. You cannot expect to control the answers.
4. You don't control how people respond to you, so post thoughtfully.
Also, you're not helping at all...you're just being mean.0 -
Not everyone is as computer savvy as you, sweetie) So what one finds easy, another may find difficult. Also, I'm sure you don't jump into a new program knowing how to navigate it completely at first. Questions should be welcome and so should concerns/complaints without having a person pop up telling you to get over it. If you don't want to kindly entertain the questions people ask, then don't read the posts.
1. Passive aggressive jabs don't fly here, sweetie. This has been tame compared to what you could have gotten.
2. People are trying to help you navigate this site and you are being defensive about it.
3.Questions are welcome. You cannot expect to control the answers.
4. You don't control how people respond to you, so post thoughtfully.
No kidding, you think this was MEAN! You haven't seen anything. Wise up and take the good advice you were given. Or many GIFs are in your future...0 -
Not everyone is as computer savvy as you, sweetie) So what one finds easy, another may find difficult. Also, I'm sure you don't jump into a new program knowing how to navigate it completely at first. Questions should be welcome and so should concerns/complaints without having a person pop up telling you to get over it. If you don't want to kindly entertain the questions people ask, then don't read the posts.
1. Passive aggressive jabs don't fly here, sweetie. This has been tame compared to what you could have gotten.
2. People are trying to help you navigate this site and you are being defensive about it.
3.Questions are welcome. You cannot expect to control the answers.
4. You don't control how people respond to you, so post thoughtfully.
Also, you're not helping at all...you're just being mean.
I am being mean by explaining to you how to getting better forum responses? :huh:0 -
Also, I wasn't calling ANYONE retarded. I calling the fact that the calories were over calculated retarded. I didn't know if it was me miscalculating or the program. Also I didn't know the nutritional information uploaded onto the site was uploaded by the users. My use of the word retarded wasn't directed at anyone in particular. I was just expressing my frustration. So, like I stated before, no need for you to be rude.
Just because you weren't calling a person retarded, doesn't mean that it's not a harmful and oppressive habit to use it as a negative descriptor. It's a hard habit to break -- self included in that statement -- buuuut words matter.
ON TOPIC, sorry. I'm with the rest of the group; I just enter the individual ingredients when I do meals. Like, I make eggs with butter nearly every morning, so I log my eggs and my butter separately. (Though coconut spray is interesting; I'd never heard of it before.)
I never said that it wasn't a harmful/ oppressive descriptive word and I meant it that way. I was frustrated. It's just like saying any slew of the curse words created in language. Had I used another word that meant the same exact thing, no one would have said anything. ANYWAYYYYYYYSSSSSSS!!!
Yes, it's just regular old coconut oil, but it sprays out like those pan sprays. It helps with the portion control and I love it!!! The oil does add a tiny tiny sweetness to certain foods. (I cant really taste it in my eggs.) But seriously you should try it) You can get it anywhere. I use the organic kinds just because I'm trying to stay away from processed foods.
I think you should probably consider the fact that I'm the third person in a thread about eggs that takes issue with the flippant use of "retarded" here. We're talking about eggs in a free database. (Ostensibly.) It's problematic to use the word "retard" where "frustrating," "nonsensical," or "****ing unbelievable." It's a very loaded word.
I'll keep an eye out next time I'm at the store! I'm a really big fan of butter, lol, but I'm looking to try new things, and I've heard great things about coconut oil for hair, oddly enough. I've just never quite gotten around to pulling the trigger and getting some.
You're totally right and I honestly didn't mean to offend anyone!
But yea you should try it!!! And it's great for skin and hair!! I could go on and on about coconut oil haha!
I totally get that! If I had a nickle for every time I offended someone with a poorly chosen word, I would stop being a writer and start swimming in my money like Scrooge McDuck. I just find that personally, I'd rather be told why I was using an inappropriate word than accidentally harm someone with my words later.
Good luck with the site! I missed earlier that it was only your second day. You sort of grow to love it, aggressive forums and all. (They're part of the charm, really.)0 -
I just started using this site, it's my second day.
Maybe find a veteran member to befriend. They can help you with how the site works. They can also give you hints about how the forums work. As a polite helpful hint, we're actually not all here for the same reason. Saying that essentially starts riots.
Well, true. I'm seeing tons of people on here for weight gain! But I guess the moral behind that statement was the fact that those that use the community section are here for support or TO support :flowerforyou:
You have been here two days, I have been here 3 years. I miiight know more about the MFP demographic than you and the forum climates. There is a specific forum for support. The rest ... not so much. You are totally wrong in assuming people who use the community section are here for support or want to provide it to somebody.
Also, you srs might want to check out terms of service -- especially with some of the language you used.
What language? The word retarded?....please.
Also, the entire forum minus a few strains, are based on support. Providing information to someone is giving them support. Asking someone to provide and answer to your question is asking them for support. Searching for information based on someone else has posted is getting support from someone.
I don't understand why people have to be so mean. I asked a simple question and expressed some frustration.
Yes, that particular work. It violates MFP TOS and you will get strikes for using it. Three strikes and you can't post. Providing information is providing information.
And you don't understand why people have to be so mean because you're expecting a specific brand of support that, as I have told you repeatedly, isn't popular here on MFP.
Well thanks for the info....I won't use the word anymore. It's seriously not that big of a deal. And you don't know what kind of support I'm seeking. Being mean is being mean. It's uncalled for. Thank you for your responses.0 -
You know, when I first came on this site and I would see what the veteran members would write and how they would respond, I would think they are so mean. And, actually, many of them are - but that is another story. But the longer I am here, the more I understand it. And this thread is a really fine example. People are being honest, direct, and answering questions. OP was thoughtless and made a bonehead error by posting their original question in the way they did and now...we are mean. Sigh.0
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You know, when I first came on this site and I would see what the veteran members would write and how they would respond, I would think they are so mean. And, actually, many of them are - but that is another story. But the longer I am here, the more I understand it. And this thread is a really fine example. People are being honest, direct, and answering questions. OP was thoughtless and made a bonehead error by posting their original question in the way they did and now...we are mean. Sigh.
Being expressive isn't thoughtless or boneheaded lol......wtf??? Doesn't anyone know how to answer a question without being snarky? If any of the users on this site asked the question I asked in person to all the people that posted, I'm sure I wouldn't have gotten such negative responses (or as you call it honest and direct.) And I'm sure if you were me, and you had asked the question to these people in person and got responses like the ones I got, you'd be a bit offended too. I don't think I'm out of line by thinking that.0 -
Ex: 1 large egg has about 70-75 Calories in it. Why is MFP telling me that 2 fried eggs is 184 calories?!!! I had two eggs today, fried them with coconut oil spray and salt and pepper. I also tried to enter a different type of egg, so I put in scrambled eggs. It said that 3 were like 1,000 some calories -_- that's retarded. Someone please tell me what the heck is going on!
Awesome use of the word "retarded" there, skippy.
Enter your own recipes if you want good measures, but nothing will ever be exact - not even the labels on the foods themselves. It's a fact of calorie counting.0 -
Ex: 1 large egg has about 70-75 Calories in it. Why is MFP telling me that 2 fried eggs is 184 calories?!!! I had two eggs today, fried them with coconut oil spray and salt and pepper. I also tried to enter a different type of egg, so I put in scrambled eggs. It said that 3 were like 1,000 some calories -_- that's retarded. Someone please tell me what the heck is going on!
Awesome use of the word "retarded" there, skippy.
Enter your own recipes if you want good measures, but nothing will ever be exact - not even the labels on the foods themselves. It's a fact of calorie counting.
You are being so mean!
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Ex: 1 large egg has about 70-75 Calories in it. Why is MFP telling me that 2 fried eggs is 184 calories?!!! I had two eggs today, fried them with coconut oil spray and salt and pepper. I also tried to enter a different type of egg, so I put in scrambled eggs. It said that 3 were like 1,000 some calories -_- that's retarded. Someone please tell me what the heck is going on!
Awesome use of the word "retarded" there, skippy.
Enter your own recipes if you want good measures, but nothing will ever be exact - not even the labels on the foods themselves. It's a fact of calorie counting.
Thank you, Skippy 0 -
I was a little surprised to see that not all eggs have the same nutritional information for the same size egg. The other day while at the grocery store, I noticed that some brands of eggs were rated differently than other brands. The store uses something called a NuVal system to rate foods from 1-100 based upon how "healthy" the food is. 1 is the worst, and 100 is the best. There was a sign in the egg section that said the eggs rated from 30-64.
Curious as to why there would be such a wide difference, I started looking at the nutrition infomration for each brand of large egg. The calorie content ranged from 70 - 85 per large egg. The store brand was the least, and Eggland's best was the highest. There was a difference in the protein content as well. So, maybe it depends on what egg you used vs. what egg the rater who entered the fried egg used.0 -
Ex: 1 large egg has about 70-75 Calories in it. Why is MFP telling me that 2 fried eggs is 184 calories?!!! I had two eggs today, fried them with coconut oil spray and salt and pepper. I also tried to enter a different type of egg, so I put in scrambled eggs. It said that 3 were like 1,000 some calories -_- that's retarded. Someone please tell me what the heck is going on!
Awesome use of the word "retarded" there, skippy.
Enter your own recipes if you want good measures, but nothing will ever be exact - not even the labels on the foods themselves. It's a fact of calorie counting.
You are being so mean!
You're being so mature! 0 -
Ex: 1 large egg has about 70-75 Calories in it. Why is MFP telling me that 2 fried eggs is 184 calories?!!! I had two eggs today, fried them with coconut oil spray and salt and pepper. I also tried to enter a different type of egg, so I put in scrambled eggs. It said that 3 were like 1,000 some calories -_- that's retarded. Someone please tell me what the heck is going on!
Awesome use of the word "retarded" there, skippy.
Enter your own recipes if you want good measures, but nothing will ever be exact - not even the labels on the foods themselves. It's a fact of calorie counting.
You are being so mean!
Oh, I forgot, I'm supposed to be supportive. Okay, here goes.
"Girl, you are so right about that - that's just SO WRONG, they shouldn't do that! You can do this! Good luck on your journey! You got this! Have a flower! :flowerforyou: "0 -
I was a little surprised to see that not all eggs have the same nutritional information for the same size egg. The other day while at the grocery store, I noticed that some brands of eggs were rated differently than other brands. The store uses something called a NuVal system to rate foods from 1-100 based upon how "healthy" the food is. 1 is the worst, and 100 is the best. There was a sign in the egg section that said the eggs rated from 30-64.
Curious as to why there would be such a wide difference, I started looking at the nutrition infomration for each brand of large egg. The calorie content ranged from 70 - 85 per large egg. The store brand was the least, and Eggland's best was the highest. There was a difference in the protein content as well. So, maybe it depends on what egg you used vs. what egg the rater who entered the fried egg used.
Yea...that's definitely something to consider thanks so much! 0 -
Ex: 1 large egg has about 70-75 Calories in it. Why is MFP telling me that 2 fried eggs is 184 calories?!!! I had two eggs today, fried them with coconut oil spray and salt and pepper. I also tried to enter a different type of egg, so I put in scrambled eggs. It said that 3 were like 1,000 some calories -_- that's retarded. Someone please tell me what the heck is going on!
Awesome use of the word "retarded" there, skippy.
Enter your own recipes if you want good measures, but nothing will ever be exact - not even the labels on the foods themselves. It's a fact of calorie counting.
You are being so mean!
You're being so mature!
I was speaking my husband, he expects it.0 -
I just started using this site, it's my second day.
Maybe find a veteran member to befriend. They can help you with how the site works. They can also give you hints about how the forums work. As a polite helpful hint, we're actually not all here for the same reason. Saying that essentially starts riots.
Well, true. I'm seeing tons of people on here for weight gain! But I guess the moral behind that statement was the fact that those that use the community section are here for support or TO support :flowerforyou:
You have been here two days, I have been here 3 years. I miiight know more about the MFP demographic than you and the forum climates. There is a specific forum for support. The rest ... not so much. You are totally wrong in assuming people who use the community section are here for support or want to provide it to somebody.
Also, you srs might want to check out terms of service -- especially with some of the language you used.
I can confirm what this user says. I am here for the calorie counting. I use my FL for support. I use the forums for entertainment.0 -
Ex: 1 large egg has about 70-75 Calories in it. Why is MFP telling me that 2 fried eggs is 184 calories?!!! I had two eggs today, fried them with coconut oil spray and salt and pepper. I also tried to enter a different type of egg, so I put in scrambled eggs. It said that 3 were like 1,000 some calories -_- that's retarded. Someone please tell me what the heck is going on!
Awesome use of the word "retarded" there, skippy.
Enter your own recipes if you want good measures, but nothing will ever be exact - not even the labels on the foods themselves. It's a fact of calorie counting.
You are being so mean!
Oh, I forgot, I'm supposed to be supportive. Okay, here goes.
"Girl, you are so right about that - that's just SO WRONG, they shouldn't do that! You can do this! Good luck on your journey! You got this! Have a flower! :flowerforyou: "
Thanks!! Here's one in return!! :flowerforyou:0 -
Ex: 1 large egg has about 70-75 Calories in it. Why is MFP telling me that 2 fried eggs is 184 calories?!!! I had two eggs today, fried them with coconut oil spray and salt and pepper. I also tried to enter a different type of egg, so I put in scrambled eggs. It said that 3 were like 1,000 some calories -_- that's retarded. Someone please tell me what the heck is going on!
2 eggs = 2 eggs
2 fried eggs = 2 eggs and oil --- which is a guess at best as there are a ton of different oils, random amounts of oil used, etc.
How much does the can of spay say it adds?
Coconut oil is 117cals per tbsp (14grams) so, 8.36 cals per gram.
Well it says 0 calories...but I'm sure if I sprayed the entire can it'd be a ton. I don't really understand the 0 calorie thing on spray oils. But I guess since I only spray it to grease the pan it would be considered 0 calories....I actually punched it into my foods for today and it says zero also.0 -
I would be very suspicious of ANY oil in ANY amount that was zero calories. It is, well, impossible. How can something that has caloric value all of a sudden have none? You would have to be consuming...none. That is the beauty of "sprays" because it is just about impossible to quantify what a "spray" is. One second? Half of a second?
I am not saying don't use it. I use coconut oil on eggs too. But I would put some fat calories in for it. It isn't a calorie free food. In any quantity. And just because the label "says so" and the label info was confirmed here, does not make it true or accurate.
I hope you found this without snark or a hint of meanness. 0 -
Ex: 1 large egg has about 70-75 Calories in it. Why is MFP telling me that 2 fried eggs is 184 calories?!!! I had two eggs today, fried them with coconut oil spray and salt and pepper. I also tried to enter a different type of egg, so I put in scrambled eggs. It said that 3 were like 1,000 some calories -_- that's retarded. Someone please tell me what the heck is going on!
2 eggs = 2 eggs
2 fried eggs = 2 eggs and oil --- which is a guess at best as there are a ton of different oils, random amounts of oil used, etc.
How much does the can of spay say it adds?
Coconut oil is 117cals per tbsp (14grams) so, 8.36 cals per gram.
Well it says 0 calories...but I'm sure if I sprayed the entire can it'd be a ton. I don't really understand the 0 calorie thing on spray oils. But I guess since I only spray it to grease the pan it would be considered 0 calories....I actually punched it into my foods for today and it says zero also.
If things are under a certain amount of calories they can be reported as zero calories per serving. Log a 1/4-1/2 tsp or so and be done with it if you want to be conservative. Or stop using sprays and actually measure out the fat you use in the pan.0 -
I would be very suspicious of ANY oil in ANY amount that was zero calories. It is, well, impossible. How can something that has caloric value all of a sudden have none? You would have to be consuming...none. That is the beauty of "sprays" because it is just about impossible to quantify what a "spray" is. One second? Half of a second?
I am not saying don't use it. I use coconut oil on eggs too. But I would put some fat calories in for it. It isn't a calorie free food. In any quantity. And just because the label "says so" and the label info was confirmed here, does not make it true or accurate.
I hope you found this without snark or a hint of meanness.
Yea I totally agree..I add the calories from my coconut oils because I know it has calories. I use both the spray and the pouring oil.
I'm in love with it lol0 -
Because MFP doesnt have the x-ray powers that make it known that you use coconut oil to cook your eggs (in fact if it did, that would be a bit cr@p given that I have never heard of anybody else using coconut oil)
One would assume therefore that the entry assumes using a more normal oil or butter.
I know! How retarded that someone should just add the calories in for oil which everybody uses....
A lot of people use coconut oil thank you...it has healthy fats in it which is why I use it instead of regular butter spray or artificial sprays. The spray adds one calorie. I added it into my food diary of MFP. I add everything that I use.....no need to be rude. This is a support forum.
I'm using very organic/raw alternatives for cooking. Which is why I use coconut oil and olive oil instead of canola oil or butter spread.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1172988--this-is-a-support-forum0 -
There is a MFP (not user submitted) entry for eggs - fried, built form the USDA nutrient database. It assumes a certain amount of oil is on the eggs from frying.Ex: 1 large egg has about 70-75 Calories in it. Why is MFP telling me that 2 fried eggs is 184 calories?!!! I had two eggs today, fried them with coconut oil spray and salt and pepper. I also tried to enter a different type of egg, so I put in scrambled eggs. It said that 3 were like 1,000 some calories -_- that's retarded. Someone please tell me what the heck is going on!
2 eggs = 2 eggs
2 fried eggs = 2 eggs and oil --- which is a guess at best as there are a ton of different oils, random amounts of oil used, etc.
How much does the can of spay say it adds?
Coconut oil is 117cals per tbsp (14grams) so, 8.36 cals per gram.
Well it says 0 calories...but I'm sure if I sprayed the entire can it'd be a ton. I don't really understand the 0 calorie thing on spray oils. But I guess since I only spray it to grease the pan it would be considered 0 calories....I actually punched it into my foods for today and it says zero also.
The 0 calories thing is because the serving size is SO tiny and the labeling rules. Most sprays are just canola oil in a can. I have weighed how much goes on a pan to coat it. A regular spray is MANY servings and I just logged it by weight as canola oil.0 -
A lot of the values in the database have been entered by individuals (Ifound about 6 differing entries for a "small" banana). I would alway enter the raw ingredients, then the values for any oils or flavourings you used int eh cooking process.
That's why I've been doing. I've actually been calculating my calories on paper too. This morning they said I have over 700 calories, but according to my calculations, I only had 385!! I just research calories online or use the nutrition label on the back of the products I'm using and they MFP calorie counter is WAAAAAAAAAAAY off. It's totally annoying because I really wanted this site to be a reliable source for keeping track of my calories, but I guess it's not going to be. Whatever, I'm still going to use it though because I do enjoy keeping a food journal Thanks for your reply!
Use the barcode scanner on the app if you have it- scans the barcode and brings up the exact product you're using.
This is not always accurate. I scanned a bottle of tea once and it came up as a chicken wrap. Also, the nutrition information isn't always correct even if it is the same product as what you scanned, so you still need to double check before you add it. Anything with a * next to it was added by a member, and may not be accurate.0 -
A lot of the values in the database have been entered by individuals (Ifound about 6 differing entries for a "small" banana). I would alway enter the raw ingredients, then the values for any oils or flavourings you used int eh cooking process.
That's why I've been doing. I've actually been calculating my calories on paper too. This morning they said I have over 700 calories, but according to my calculations, I only had 385!! I just research calories online or use the nutrition label on the back of the products I'm using and they MFP calorie counter is WAAAAAAAAAAAY off. It's totally annoying because I really wanted this site to be a reliable source for keeping track of my calories, but I guess it's not going to be. Whatever, I'm still going to use it though because I do enjoy keeping a food journal Thanks for your reply!
Use the barcode scanner on the app if you have it- scans the barcode and brings up the exact product you're using.
This is not always accurate. I scanned a bottle of tea once and it came up as a chicken wrap. Also, the nutrition information isn't always correct even if it is the same product as what you scanned, so you still need to double check before you add it. Anything with a * next to it was added by a member, and may not be accurate.
Why are you drinking Chicken wraps steeped in boiling water?0 -
A lot of the values in the database have been entered by individuals (Ifound about 6 differing entries for a "small" banana). I would alway enter the raw ingredients, then the values for any oils or flavourings you used int eh cooking process.
That's why I've been doing. I've actually been calculating my calories on paper too. This morning they said I have over 700 calories, but according to my calculations, I only had 385!! I just research calories online or use the nutrition label on the back of the products I'm using and they MFP calorie counter is WAAAAAAAAAAAY off. It's totally annoying because I really wanted this site to be a reliable source for keeping track of my calories, but I guess it's not going to be. Whatever, I'm still going to use it though because I do enjoy keeping a food journal Thanks for your reply!
Use the barcode scanner on the app if you have it- scans the barcode and brings up the exact product you're using.
This is not always accurate. I scanned a bottle of tea once and it came up as a chicken wrap. Also, the nutrition information isn't always correct even if it is the same product as what you scanned, so you still need to double check before you add it. Anything with a * next to it was added by a member, and may not be accurate.
Why are you drinking Chicken wraps steeped in boiling water?
I think I need to fix your scanner. 0 -
Because MFP doesnt have the x-ray powers that make it known that you use coconut oil to cook your eggs (in fact if it did, that would be a bit cr@p given that I have never heard of anybody else using coconut oil)
One would assume therefore that the entry assumes using a more normal oil or butter.
I know! How retarded that someone should just add the calories in for oil which everybody uses....
Ummmm. I use coconut oil. Love it. Even used it on my husbands eggs. :happy:0
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