Serious bone to pick (Diet Fads)

KyaniBody

I don't track my sodium because when you are limited to certain caloric ranges it generally isn't sky high. Keep in mind I am offering advice for people looking to lose weight in a general fassion. This doesn't talk to people who have certain conditions etc. Yes eating gobs and gobs of sodium has shown some negative side effects. This is where I think you pick your poison. Do you not go outside and be in the sun because it causes higher risk skin cancer etc. etc.

I personally do NOT track sodium until one week leading into my show.

Let's be honest.. Sodium isn't whats making our country obese and riddling us with all these health issues.

I honestly love most of this post! Except for one quick thing...

May I honestly ask why not to focus on sodium at all? I understand if you're hovering around average levels to not worry since your body requires sodium, but I noticed some days you are upwards of 5000+mg for your daily intake. Can that not be harmful in the long run?

All my sources I have been relating to recommend trying to lower sodium intake, especially for women as osteoporosis can be a common side effect among the high blood pressure that's normally mentioned:

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/fn-an/nutrition/sodium/index-eng.php

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2782060/?report=abstract

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2643195/


May I see some sources as to where you know there won't be a harmful impact in the long run?

klaff411

Also, you don't NEED carbs in the diet, your body functions fine without them, it's just that it'll negatively effect your work capacity in the gym, and I personally like low-carb diets since I feel more full on them.

Um, actually you do. Your brain and nervous system needs the supply of glucose from the carbs in order to survive. Carbs aren't always in the form of bread and pasta like people think of when they hear the word. They're in fruits and vegetables too.

Um no you don't. That's why we have fat.

KyaniBody

How many times do I have to say I am speaking in general terms and NOT adressing anyones medical conditions. You can go ahead and disagree with me all day long and think carbs are the devil that is fine. At the end of the day it's calories in vs calories out while having a responsible mix of the three.

I do ALSO agree there is no one way apporach do what works for you and what you want to do. I am here to debunk all the myths out there that people have in their head. Carbs and Fat are not the devil. You can still lose weight and eat them. Just be smart about the three macronutrient ranges.

Why do we need carbs?
glucose is the sugar unit that our body cells use for energy. We cannot make glucose out of other nutrients, so it is essential to eat carbohydrates. Other food substances are not used directly and get converted into glucose quickly, and starch is readily digested and absorbed as glucose. We can only store small amounts of carbohydrate as glycogen, in liver and muscle, for urgent use. So we need a fairly steady supply of carbohydrate from our meals.

If you don't like my advice you don't have to follow it? Get angry and "throttle" me if you wish.

Good afternoon all,

First off I want to give you a disclaimer. These are my thoughts and beliefs. I am a natural bodybuilder and have literally hundreds of friends who are natural pro competitors. Females and Males.

I am sitting here reading a lot of your posts and I am disgusted. Here are some bullet points I want to touch on. Just a heads up I am a If It Fits Your Macros dieter. I get shredded off of weighing everything I eat. I do NOT eat fish and vegetables all day long..

#1 STOP STARVING YOURSELVES. You are absolutely ruining your metabolism. Do you ever wonder why you drop in weight so fast in the beginning and then all of a sudden you stop and can't lose anymore weight? Guess what! Since you starved yourself your body now needs one of two things to drop more weight. You either need to cut calories every more, or up your physical activity. Unless you are extremely obese you should be losing 1-2 pounds a week. When you take a slow approach and preserve more lean muscle mass you will be able to burn more calories at rest then if you starved yourself. Take a slower approach and enjoy more calories! When you are at your target weight you will be able to maintain that weight while eating more food.

#2 STOP CUTTING OUT A WHOLE MACRO NUTRIENT! We all need protein, fat and CARBS to function correctly. Bread, sugar, sodium etc are not the problem. Everything needs to be within limitations though. For example, I currently am losing weight on 220g Protein, 225g Carbs and 50g of fat. I highly suggest you track your food and weigh it. Far too often I have found food labels to be incorrect. Example it says 50 chips = 28 grams. When I actually weigh it out, 25 chips equal the 1 serving size. Carbs and Fat aren't the devil. Everything is within limitations.

#3 Females you need more protein! No you will not get big and bulky. You will put on quality lean muscle mass. Eat 1g of protein per pound of body weight. Generally females struggle with getting an ample amount of protein every day.

#4 You don't need to do 2 hours of cardio a day. Please incorporate free weight training as well. Once again you will not get big and bulky ladies.

#5 there is no magic pill or quick approach. This is a complete lifestyle change. Yes there will be times when you are hungry and want to give up. Don't quit on yourself. Stop thinking other people have more will power etc then you. We all have a choice and can make the same decisions.

#6 Do not STRESS over meal frequency. You do not need to eat every 2-3 hours... The further in your diet though your metabolism will be on fire and you will want to eat every 2-3 hours though

#7 Do not STRESS over eating late at night. It DOES NOT matter what you eat later at night. Once again hit your targets. Calories in vs Calories out

#8 Drink plenty of water. This boosts your metabolism and helps keep you fuller feeling.

#9 Prepare your food in advanced so you don't give yourself an excuse to fail. Yes you will be tired, no you won't want to do it. Guess what? DO IT!

#10 Don't worry about Sodium and Sugar. Follow the 4 things I told you to track and you will be fine.

#11 I would definitely take supplements. If you want some recommendations let me know.

I am not a Dr. and do not work with certain illnesses etc. I am however a Personal Trainer and Specialist in Performance Nutrition. These are just my recommendations. I follow these same principals and a lot of my Professional bodybuilders follow the same.

Here is to a better you!

I will leave you with a quote. "If it's important to you, you will find a way. If not, you will find and excuse."

. I'm sorry but you cannot cast this as supreme advice for everyone. I do Keto which cuts out my carbs, it works for me very well. Those of us who suffer from eating disorders don't appreciate being told what we are doing is wrong if it works for us. There is no one way approach.

We're not all made equal. If I ate 225 carbs a day, I would balloon up in weeks. I realize your some kind of PT. The tone of your post is what makes me want to throttle you, not the information, which on a whole is quite good.

klaff411

There may be people asking about Weight watchers, Gluten-free or Low Carb around here but I do not really see the pervasiveness of fad diets you mentioned on this forum. These are almost always instantly discredited, with users pointing those asking for help about these diets to the tried and true caloric deficit. Maybe I just don't read enough posts!

you have not been here long enough ..stick around and you will see posts about raspberry ketones, diet pills, cleanses, 7 day juice fasts/water fasts, etc….trust me.

No one is talking about that. I don't know why people are such close minded on here sometimes. Keto is a legitimate LIFESTYLE choice. It takes a ****load of commitment to do, far more than what the OP is advocating in his "balanced" approach.

Yes, you do go though a flu period of about 3-5 days where you don't feel good. I went thought it myself. But once you get out, you feel amazing. Your body is switching into ketosis and using fat instead of carbs. Generally people see too much weightloss initially since first you will dump water, then burn fat stored in organs (et al the liver). Part of the success is integrating exercise in. I run on keto and do lifting and I feel just fine. I drink my protein shake, eat lots of bacon, and keto on.

This is a diet used in many medical circumstances from diabetics to cancer to epilepsy. If you don't believe me, look it up. But stop spreading misinformation.

rainbowbow

Alright, dude. So, since you clearly have free time to type this whole thing up....

Can you check my diary/current training routine? LOL

Thank you in advance. I can PM you as well.

mmcdonald700

Supplements I recommend for everyone is a superior multivitamin and fish oil. If any Dr. tells you not to take them please fire them unless their is some allergic reaction/rare one off.

I would recommend a liquid multivitamin as your body can absorb up to 98% of it vs only 3%-20% in pill form. Moreover, liquid vitamins bypass digestive processing and go directly into the bloodstream within minutes.

I would just like to add, if you're going to take a multivitamin that you should research the brand/type you want to take fairly extensively. Compare toxicity levels and bioavailability (ability for your body to absorb and utilize the nutrients). However, it is true that a lot of peer-reviewed studies have come out recently finding that vitamins are either useless or even harmful (vitamin e may increase prostate cancer risk in men) - except vitamin D which hasn't been studied as extensively and may be beneficial to take as a supplement. Just keep an eye out and think critically about what you're buying. Also the second part of that sounds like some kind of hype bull****. Whenever someone says something goes directly into your bloodstream within minutes... that's not true, unless you are taking this vitamin intravenously. It still has to be absorbed in your digestive tract and just because it's in liquid form may or may not speed that up - there are a lot of other variables. Sounds fishy to me, anyway.

source: background in biochemistry; also Harvard Physicians Health Study (1982) http://phs.bwh.harvard.edu/

redheaddee

In for good, solid, advice applicable to the general population.

Also in for "nuh-unh", but what about me, rainbow farting unicorn peoples who will be butt hurt by such advice.

redheaddee

Hey, a "newbie" with solid information, right on!

As someone who has been here a couple years, there are plenty of us who are constantly parroting most of the points in your post but they generally get drowned out by the 300 Dr. Oz diets posted a day. I think it's just human nature, people want to believe that there is a magic quick fix and will constantly be seeking it out.

Anyway, welcome, and visit http://www.myfitnesspal.com/forums/show/10067-eat-train-progress- when you get a moment. You'll probably find more like-minded people there.

Edit: I just noticed you're here to sell crap, that's -100000 bro points. But still a solid post.

What are you talking about I am just here to sell stuff? if someone wants to message me about what I recommend that is their business. I in no way shape or form even mentioned a certain product just two essential product types that EVERYONE can benefit from...

From your very own profile...
"I am a firm believer in the quality of Kyani Products."

KyaniBody

You know what, you are right. I actually have a few friends that are Doctors. I was on the phone with one of them and they corrected me. It's the quality of the ingrident in what I take that is boosting the absorption rate. It just so happens to be liquid. He corrected me. It is the quality of it not the delivery.

Apologies and good catch will correct.

Supplements I recommend for everyone is a superior multivitamin and fish oil. If any Dr. tells you not to take them please fire them unless their is some allergic reaction/rare one off.

I would recommend a liquid multivitamin as your body can absorb up to 98% of it vs only 3%-20% in pill form. Moreover, liquid vitamins bypass digestive processing and go directly into the bloodstream within minutes.

I would just like to add, if you're going to take a multivitamin that you should research the brand/type you want to take fairly extensively. Compare toxicity levels and bioavailability (ability for your body to absorb and utilize the nutrients). However, it is true that a lot of peer-reviewed studies have come out recently finding that vitamins are either useless or even harmful (vitamin e may increase prostate cancer risk in men) - except vitamin D which hasn't been studied as extensively and may be beneficial to take as a supplement. Just keep an eye out and think critically about what you're buying. Also the second part of that sounds like some kind of hype bull****. Whenever someone says something goes directly into your bloodstream within minutes... that's not true, unless you are taking this vitamin intravenously. It still has to be absorbed in your digestive tract and just because it's in liquid form may or may not speed that up - there are a lot of other variables. Sounds fishy to me, anyway.

source: background in biochemistry; also Harvard Physicians Health Study (1982) http://phs.bwh.harvard.edu/

mgorham13

Eating earlier has nothing to do with weight loss. I eat ice cream every night at 10 pm and have about 11% body fat...
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Damn you!

mattymatt

Not sure why people are up in arm about this post. If it doesnt appy to you (diabetic, etc), then carry on. Its solid advice for "most" people. And, I believe he's focusing on the fad diets mainly.

I have lost and gained 40ish pounds about 5 times over the last 10 years. I have done Atkins, South Beach, WW, you name it. And with success!!

The problem is, and I think with most people, is whats between the ears. I have a hard time managing my stress and I take it out on food.

From my experience, you can lose weight doing just about any diet, but if its long lasting results you want, then you gotta fix the mind and eat the healthiest foods on earth. Calorie in vs calorie out.

BonnieCaley

So can you help me? Mfp tells me 20% protein and iifym tells me 45%, I don't know my body fat % but would guess it's quite high. I'm 160lb and 5ft 1. I do mixed martial arts twice For 45 mins twice a week and walk 1hour + per day. Thanks

KyaniBody

Ya I am a believer in their products because they are great. I never once mentioned them in this post... Please tell me who can't benefit from a multi and fish oil unless you have some rare one off.

Anyway I'm out for a while. Need to get back to work.

Hey, a "newbie" with solid information, right on!

As someone who has been here a couple years, there are plenty of us who are constantly parroting most of the points in your post but they generally get drowned out by the 300 Dr. Oz diets posted a day. I think it's just human nature, people want to believe that there is a magic quick fix and will constantly be seeking it out.

Anyway, welcome, and visit http://www.myfitnesspal.com/forums/show/10067-eat-train-progress- when you get a moment. You'll probably find more like-minded people there.

Edit: I just noticed you're here to sell crap, that's -100000 bro points. But still a solid post.

What are you talking about I am just here to sell stuff? if someone wants to message me about what I recommend that is their business. I in no way shape or form even mentioned a certain product just two essential product types that EVERYONE can benefit from...

From your very own profile...
"I am a firm believer in the quality of Kyani Products."

_Resolve_

Great post OP.

GiGiBeans

Just because they didn't have carbohydrates didn't mean it was optimal... Cut out all your carbohydrates and tell me how you feel. For the final stretch of my last prep I was on 175 carbs for 3 months working out hard and doing cardio 6 days a week. I felt like a zombie.

I did low carb to lose weight, sadly was the only thing I could stick to without overeating.

There is no denying a long workout on low carb feels like trudging thru quicksand compared to having adequate carbs. Since recently raising my carbs to a little over 200 grams I can run much longer/faster and my lifts are going up significantly after a very long stall.

I'm starting to believe low carb is OK if sedentary/lightly active because you just don't burn up as many carbs, but once you're pretty active you'll need more to function optimally.

Confuzzled4ever

you believe in natural weight loss but take supplements? :indifferent:

My goal is 160 protein per day and 120 carbs. The days I feel the BEST is when i eat more protein then that and under 100 carbs, but do not freak out if I am over on carbs. Store bread makes me lethargic/tired and makes me feel really stuffed and heavy. Homemade bread varies depending on the recipe.

naturally low sugar foods seems to help me the best.

I do take a bunch of vitamins. I am Vitamin D deficient and as a result am deficient in other vitamins. I hope to get back to taking just vitamin D. I also want to replace the protein powder but I find it hard to reach my macors without it most days.

My food choices are pretty automatic now. I can pretty much throw together a days worth of food without pre-logging and come very close to my goals. Eating it all is sometimes still a challenge however, since protein makes me feel full longer.

ndj1979

Good afternoon all,

First off I want to give you a disclaimer. These are my thoughts and beliefs. I am a natural bodybuilder and have literally hundreds of friends who are natural pro competitors. Females and Males.

I am sitting here reading a lot of your posts and I am disgusted. Here are some bullet points I want to touch on. Just a heads up I am a If It Fits Your Macros dieter. I get shredded off of weighing everything I eat. I do NOT eat fish and vegetables all day long..

#1 STOP STARVING YOURSELVES. You are absolutely ruining your metabolism. Do you ever wonder why you drop in weight so fast in the beginning and then all of a sudden you stop and can't lose anymore weight? Guess what! Since you starved yourself your body now needs one of two things to drop more weight. You either need to cut calories every more, or up your physical activity. Unless you are extremely obese you should be losing 1-2 pounds a week. When you take a slow approach and preserve more lean muscle mass you will be able to burn more calories at rest then if you starved yourself. Take a slower approach and enjoy more calories! When you are at your target weight you will be able to maintain that weight while eating more food.

#2 STOP CUTTING OUT A WHOLE MACRO NUTRIENT! We all need protein, fat and CARBS to function correctly. Bread, sugar, sodium etc are not the problem. Everything needs to be within limitations though. For example, I currently am losing weight on 220g Protein, 225g Carbs and 50g of fat. I highly suggest you track your food and weigh it. Far too often I have found food labels to be incorrect. Example it says 50 chips = 28 grams. When I actually weigh it out, 25 chips equal the 1 serving size. Carbs and Fat aren't the devil. Everything is within limitations.

#3 Females you need more protein! No you will not get big and bulky. You will put on quality lean muscle mass. Eat 1g of protein per pound of body weight. Generally females struggle with getting an ample amount of protein every day.

#4 You don't need to do 2 hours of cardio a day. Please incorporate free weight training as well. Once again you will not get big and bulky ladies.

#5 there is no magic pill or quick approach. This is a complete lifestyle change. Yes there will be times when you are hungry and want to give up. Don't quit on yourself. Stop thinking other people have more will power etc then you. We all have a choice and can make the same decisions.

#6 Do not STRESS over meal frequency. You do not need to eat every 2-3 hours... The further in your diet though your metabolism will be on fire and you will want to eat every 2-3 hours though

#7 Do not STRESS over eating late at night. It DOES NOT matter what you eat later at night. Once again hit your targets. Calories in vs Calories out

#8 Drink plenty of water. This boosts your metabolism and helps keep you fuller feeling.

#9 Prepare your food in advanced so you don't give yourself an excuse to fail. Yes you will be tired, no you won't want to do it. Guess what? DO IT!

#10 Don't worry about Sodium and Sugar. Follow the 4 things I told you to track and you will be fine.

#11 I would definitely take supplements. If you want some recommendations let me know.

I am not a Dr. and do not work with certain illnesses etc. I am however a Personal Trainer and Specialist in Performance Nutrition. These are just my recommendations. I follow these same principals and a lot of my Professional bodybuilders follow the same.

Here is to a better you!

I will leave you with a quote. "If it's important to you, you will find a way. If not, you will find and excuse."

. I'm sorry but you cannot cast this as supreme advice for everyone. I do Keto which cuts out my carbs, it works for me very well. Those of us who suffer from eating disorders don't appreciate being told what we are doing is wrong if it works for us. There is no one way approach.

We're not all made equal. If I ate 225 carbs a day, I would balloon up in weeks. I realize your some kind of PT. The tone of your post is what makes me want to throttle you, not the information, which on a whole is quite good.

carbs do not make you fat...overeating makes you fat.

If you overeat on calories over maintenance yes, you will gain weight.

if you eat in a deficit, and eat 30% carbs you will lose weight...

the only way you would "balloon up" would be the initial water retention that you would get from increased carbs. If you are still in a deficit you would not gain fat.

GothyFaery

Good afternoon all,

First off I want to give you a disclaimer. These are my thoughts and beliefs. I am a natural bodybuilder and have literally hundreds of friends who are natural pro competitors. Females and Males.

I am sitting here reading a lot of your posts and I am disgusted. Here are some bullet points I want to touch on. Just a heads up I am a If It Fits Your Macros dieter. I get shredded off of weighing everything I eat. I do NOT eat fish and vegetables all day long..

#1 STOP STARVING YOURSELVES. You are absolutely ruining your metabolism. Do you ever wonder why you drop in weight so fast in the beginning and then all of a sudden you stop and can't lose anymore weight? Guess what! Since you starved yourself your body now needs one of two things to drop more weight. You either need to cut calories every more, or up your physical activity. Unless you are extremely obese you should be losing 1-2 pounds a week. When you take a slow approach and preserve more lean muscle mass you will be able to burn more calories at rest then if you starved yourself. Take a slower approach and enjoy more calories! When you are at your target weight you will be able to maintain that weight while eating more food.

#2 STOP CUTTING OUT A WHOLE MACRO NUTRIENT! We all need protein, fat and CARBS to function correctly. Bread, sugar, sodium etc are not the problem. Everything needs to be within limitations though. For example, I currently am losing weight on 220g Protein, 225g Carbs and 50g of fat. I highly suggest you track your food and weigh it. Far too often I have found food labels to be incorrect. Example it says 50 chips = 28 grams. When I actually weigh it out, 25 chips equal the 1 serving size. Carbs and Fat aren't the devil. Everything is within limitations.

#3 Females you need more protein! No you will not get big and bulky. You will put on quality lean muscle mass. Eat 1g of protein per pound of body weight. Generally females struggle with getting an ample amount of protein every day.

#4 You don't need to do 2 hours of cardio a day. Please incorporate free weight training as well. Once again you will not get big and bulky ladies.

#5 there is no magic pill or quick approach. This is a complete lifestyle change. Yes there will be times when you are hungry and want to give up. Don't quit on yourself. Stop thinking other people have more will power etc then you. We all have a choice and can make the same decisions.

#6 Do not STRESS over meal frequency. You do not need to eat every 2-3 hours... The further in your diet though your metabolism will be on fire and you will want to eat every 2-3 hours though

#7 Do not STRESS over eating late at night. It DOES NOT matter what you eat later at night. Once again hit your targets. Calories in vs Calories out

#8 Drink plenty of water. This boosts your metabolism and helps keep you fuller feeling.

#9 Prepare your food in advanced so you don't give yourself an excuse to fail. Yes you will be tired, no you won't want to do it. Guess what? DO IT!

#10 Don't worry about Sodium and Sugar. Follow the 4 things I told you to track and you will be fine.

#11 I would definitely take supplements. If you want some recommendations let me know.

I am not a Dr. and do not work with certain illnesses etc. I am however a Personal Trainer and Specialist in Performance Nutrition. These are just my recommendations. I follow these same principals and a lot of my Professional bodybuilders follow the same.

Here is to a better you!

I will leave you with a quote. "If it's important to you, you will find a way. If not, you will find and excuse."

Love this! I have been trying so hard to get more protein, I just haven't found a way yet. Any suggestions (not yogurt, can't even force myself to eat it)?

ajaxe432

I look at the ops pic and the information he post....which I agree with. Then I look at the people who are arguing and their pics, and then their flawed argument.....then I laugh:) Love myfitnesspal.