Are heavy folks malnourished?

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  • Yep absolutely. The past few years before taking my diet seriously I was constantly anemic, from iron deficiency. Being overweight does not mean you are immune to being malnourished. Being overweight simply has to do with eating too much, undernourishment has more to do with WHAT you are eating rather than how much. For my case it didn't matter how much I was over eating, because I wasn't having veggies or anything else with iron.
  • The simple answer is this: Quantity of food (calories) determines your weight, quality of food determines your health.
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    Yes, if you are overweight or obese, you are malnourished by definition. It's not really debatable is it?
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
    Malnourished means poorly nourished. Mal means bad or incorrect.

    Obese people are, by definition, malnourished. They are improperly nourished. Excess of calories, perhaps a lack of certain things like fiber or potassium.

    Correct.
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
    People just don't want to admit or face facts.

    Here is a study and how is correlates to diabetes, which seems spot on with some of the comments I am reading here.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3313629/

    Here is the overview of the study in the link above:
    Obesity and diabetes are increasing in prevalence worldwide. Despite excessive dietary consumption, obese individuals have high rates of micronutrient deficiencies. Deficiencies of specific vitamins and minerals that play important roles in glucose metabolism and insulin signaling pathways may contribute to the development of diabetes in the obese population. This paper reviews the current evidence supporting this hypothesis.
  • JakiDee
    JakiDee Posts: 43 Member
    Malnourished means poorly nourished. Mal means bad or incorrect.

    Obese people are, by definition, malnourished. They are improperly nourished. Excess of calories, perhaps a lack of certain things like fiber or potassium.

    ^THIS^
  • Ang108
    Ang108 Posts: 1,711 Member
    Yes, if you are overweight or obese, you are malnourished by definition. It's not really debatable is it?

    That makes no sense, even though I agree that the % of malnourished obese people is high. But they are not malnourished by definition.
    I was obese and am still border line and eat only whole foods ( and have all my life ) and got overweight from eating too much. Too much brown rice with broccoli also causes weight gain...lol. When I had a physical before starting with MFP all my numbers were in the good to excellent range, but I was still obese and not malnourished at all.
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    That makes no sense to me. I'm thinking OVERnourished.
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    Malnourished means poorly nourished. Mal means bad or incorrect.

    Obese people are, by definition, malnourished. They are improperly nourished. Excess of calories, perhaps a lack of certain things like fiber or potassium.

    Good point. I stand corrected. Overdoing it is just as *bad* as under doing it.
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    Yes, if you are overweight or obese, you are malnourished by definition. It's not really debatable is it?

    That makes no sense, even though I agree that the % of malnourished obese people is high. But they are not malnourished by definition.
    I was obese and am still border line and eat only whole foods ( and have all my life ) and got overweight from eating too much. Too much brown rice with broccoli also causes weight gain...lol. When I had a physical before starting with MFP all my numbers were in the good to excellent range, but I was still obese and not malnourished at all.

    Just being obese is a subset of being malnourished. JUST being obese means you are malnourished by definition. Mal just means bad, although I agree that most people think of it as "under" nourished.
  • mamma_nee
    mamma_nee Posts: 809 Member
    I was malnourished !! High on sugars and starch and lacking my proteins which is why I packed on the pounds. I am home every day and never felt like taking time to cook just for me so I would grab crusty italian bread and a nice hot pepper & tomato and slather them with olive oil and that was lunch almost every day of the week.
  • Dugleik
    Dugleik Posts: 125
    Yeah, I heard that recently.

    Thoughts?

    Seems logical since we eat all sorts of what-have-you to get this way.

    They can be.

    From Wikipedia: "Malnutrition is the condition that results from eating a diet in which certain nutrients are lacking, in excess (too high in intake), or in the wrong proportions."

    So if your diet is lacking in certain nutrients, then you are malnourished.
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    Yeah, I heard that recently.

    Thoughts?

    Seems logical since we eat all sorts of what-have-you to get this way.

    They can be.

    From Wikipedia: "Malnutrition is the condition that results from eating a diet in which certain nutrients are lacking, in excess (too high in intake), or in the wrong proportions."

    So if your diet is lacking in certain nutrients, then you are malnourished.

    Would they not HAVE to be using that definition?
  • Dugleik
    Dugleik Posts: 125
    Yeah, I heard that recently.

    Thoughts?

    Seems logical since we eat all sorts of what-have-you to get this way.

    They can be.

    From Wikipedia: "Malnutrition is the condition that results from eating a diet in which certain nutrients are lacking, in excess (too high in intake), or in the wrong proportions."

    So if your diet is lacking in certain nutrients, then you are malnourished.

    Would they not HAVE to be using that definition?

    I have no idea what your trying to say. Are you trying to say that they are using a different definition of malnutrition? In that case what would that alternate definition be?
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    Yeah, I heard that recently.

    Thoughts?

    Seems logical since we eat all sorts of what-have-you to get this way.

    They can be.

    From Wikipedia: "Malnutrition is the condition that results from eating a diet in which certain nutrients are lacking, in excess (too high in intake), or in the wrong proportions."

    So if your diet is lacking in certain nutrients, then you are malnourished.

    Would they not HAVE to be using that definition?

    I have no idea what your trying to say. Are you trying to say that they are using a different definition of malnutrition? In that case what would that alternate definition be?

    No, I am saying that you posted the definition from Wiki and said "They can be" malnourished.

    I'm saying, going off of the definition you posted, doesn't it say that "They HAVE to be" rather than "can" be?

    Your definition says "Malnutrition is the condition that results from eating a diet in which certain nutrients are lacking, in excess (too high in intake), or in the wrong proportions."

    I have bolded the portion that basically says if you are overweight, you are malnourished.
  • Dugleik
    Dugleik Posts: 125
    Yeah, I heard that recently.

    Thoughts?

    Seems logical since we eat all sorts of what-have-you to get this way.

    They can be.

    From Wikipedia: "Malnutrition is the condition that results from eating a diet in which certain nutrients are lacking, in excess (too high in intake), or in the wrong proportions."

    So if your diet is lacking in certain nutrients, then you are malnourished.

    Would they not HAVE to be using that definition?

    I have no idea what your trying to say. Are you trying to say that they are using a different definition of malnutrition? In that case what would that alternate definition be?

    No, I am saying that you posted the definition from Wiki and said "They can be" malnourished.

    I'm saying, going off of the definition you posted, doesn't it say that "They HAVE to be" rather than "can" be?

    Your definition says "Malnutrition is the condition that results from eating a diet in which certain nutrients are lacking, in excess (too high in intake), or in the wrong proportions."

    I have bolded the portion that basically says if you are overweight, you are malnourished.

    Oh! I understand now. Sorry, English is not my first language.

    In my opinion, and have in mind that I am not educated on the subject, I don't think heavy folks have to be malnourished. If you get all your nutrients and your body is processing it right, being heavy doesn't mean there is something wrong with you, it just means you are, you know, heavy.