US Food Policy: If you could change one thing...

somefitsomefat

Require all restaurants to post nutritional information on their menus.

Yup, accurate ones too.

So much this. Regardless of chain or not. They know what they're putting in it shouldn't be that hard. And let's be honest, if they had to start reporting calorie counts and sodium content a lot of places would stop the abuse of butter and salt in their recipes.

The reason it's only required for chain restaurants is because it's expensive to have the testing done to determine the calorie count, and that could seriously shut down smaller mom and pop restaurants.

Couldn't they just add up the values of the ingredients?

So, you guys want an agency that goes around testing and monitoring all over the country so you can count your calories. Lol. Ridiculous. There are bigger fish to fry in the economy. Setting up a bureaucracy is not something I support.

Meh, I don't know about all that. Maybe if it pisses you off enough since you seem to be sensitive about the issue. I was just pointing out how easy it would be for mom and pops to just add up the calories of the ingredients of the meals they serve. As far as oversight I say use whatever is in place already or maybe pass the duty off to the health inspector to make sure something is posted. It's probably not nearly as complicated or as expensive as you're making it out to be.

fuhrmeister

I jsut ingnore the FDA's recomendations and do my own research. It's not the governemtns job to tell me what to eat, to tell farmers what to grow or tell resteraunts what to post on their menus. People need to be more responsable for themselves and stop expecthing their goverment to think for them.

Slacker16

I would get rid of all farmer subsidies. (...)

All (powerful) governments subsidize agriculture heavily. It's a matter of national security, not "nannystatism".

As long as countries will occasionally go to war it is necessary to make sure that commercial relations can be broken off with any country and at any time without creating a famine.

As to changing one thing (assuming that legalization doesn't fall under food policies) I would go with stricter labeling laws for health supplements.

stefanieraya

Reorganize and downsize the FDA.

Greytfish

Reopen slaughter houses for horses and let the needy have some protein. If they are really hungry, they will eat it. They have come around to eating venison.

Venison and horse meat are vastly, vastly different. Venison, raised or hunted, are not routinely fed an excessive amount of substances banned in meat for human consumption the way that horses are.

DrMAvDPhD

Require all restaurants to post nutritional information on their menus.

Yup, accurate ones too.

So much this. Regardless of chain or not. They know what they're putting in it shouldn't be that hard. And let's be honest, if they had to start reporting calorie counts and sodium content a lot of places would stop the abuse of butter and salt in their recipes.

Most restaurants don't use butter in their recipes...............they use cheap seed oils such as canola, corn, soy, etc.

There is nothing wrong with butter in the least.

I was referring to quantities used. There is such thing as too much butter.

PaleoPath4Lyfe

give all the current subsidies to organic farmers / outlaw GMOs, (even russia's doing it)

Yes great idea, and in the process you will effectively put small farmers out of business, increase poverty, and add to world hunger!! Great idea!!!!!!

Do you really believe that bull????? Monsanto doesn't feed the world as they claim. Don't be a sheeple, do some research as to what they do with what they grow.............it doesn't go to end world hunger.

PaleoPath4Lyfe

Require all restaurants to post nutritional information on their menus.

Yup, accurate ones too.

So much this. Regardless of chain or not. They know what they're putting in it shouldn't be that hard. And let's be honest, if they had to start reporting calorie counts and sodium content a lot of places would stop the abuse of butter and salt in their recipes.

Most restaurants don't use butter in their recipes...............they use cheap seed oils such as canola, corn, soy, etc.

There is nothing wrong with butter in the least.

I was referring to quantities used. There is such thing as too much butter.

Restaurants don't use real butter and very few chain restaurants actually do cooking. Most of the crap they serve is either frozen or canned. The only butter might be on the potato they bring to you and maybe a bit for your bread at the table.

PaleoPath4Lyfe

give all the current subsidies to organic farmers / outlaw GMOs, (even russia's doing it)

That's silly and Russia just rounded up stray dogs in sochi and killed them, should we do that as well?

The way this country puts down animals because of irresponsible human beings, this country is no better. The US has no right to say a word about what other countries do as this country does things worse than most other countries.

A lot of Americans are pitiful human beings.

Greytfish

give all the current subsidies to organic farmers / outlaw GMOs, (even russia's doing it)

That's silly and Russia just rounded up stray dogs in sochi and killed them, should we do that as well?

In the U.S. "we" already do, and at much, much larger numbers overall, even in relation to the populations.

Fitnin6280

give all the current subsidies to organic farmers / outlaw GMOs, (even russia's doing it)

Yes great idea, and in the process you will effectively put small farmers out of business, increase poverty, and add to world hunger!! Great idea!!!!!!

Do you really believe that bull????? Monsanto doesn't feed the world as they claim. Don't be a sheeple, do some research as to what they do with what they grow.............it doesn't go to end world hunger.

I am NOT a sheeple. I am an individual who has lived in the ag world all my life. It pays the bills and feeds my family. We are small operation, yes, and putting more regulations on farmers just adds to the pain. It is not feasible to feed the entire world on "organic" crops. The cost is super high and the yield is low. I have done the research thank you. Have you, or are you just believing what you are told by the media?

fruitikay

More honest labeling with ingredients. The only objectiion to the "it's just personal responsiblity" arguments I have is that not everyone has the resources to be knowledgeable about health, afford better brands, or resources to engage in being "more informed." I'm talking about the working class who have to buy TV dinners or other cheap foods to get by. They have no choice in what they buy as food because the only food they can buy are the cheap brands. Yet those brands contain terrrible ingredients, bad nutrition, etc. Sure, it's food, but we end up with a society where the poor are malnurished, and the middle class or wealthy have access and resources to healthier and more sustainable sources of food. If that sits well with you, then ok. But to me, I feel like there needs to be a little bit more regulation regarding ingredients other than just the labeling--perhaps banning certain chemicals, additives, perservatives, and GMO's we don't know are completely safe. (Keep in mind, just because they haven't been confirmed to NOT be safe, some also haven't been confirmed TO BE safe).

But I don't know, this could bring about unintended consequences as well. It's an interesting discussion.

WendyTerry420

More honest labeling with ingredients. The only objectiion to the "it's just personal responsiblity" arguments I have is that not everyone has the resources to be knowledgeable about health, afford better brands, or resources to engage in being "more informed." I'm talking about the working class who have to buy TV dinners or other cheap foods to get by. They have no choice in what they buy as food because the only food they can buy are the cheap brands. Yet those brands contain terrrible ingredients, bad nutrition, etc. Sure, it's food, but we end up with a society where the poor are malnurished, and the middle class or wealthy have access and resources to healthier and more sustainable sources of food. If that sits well with you, then ok. But to me, I feel like there needs to be a little bit more regulation regarding ingredients other than just the labeling--perhaps banning certain chemicals, additives, perservatives, and GMO's we don't know are completely safe. (Keep in mind, just because they haven't been confirmed to NOT be safe, some also haven't been confirmed TO BE safe).

But I don't know, this could bring about unintended consequences as well. It's an interesting discussion.

"Brands" have nothing to do with nutrition. And as a member of the class of working poor, I find it hilarious to make the claim that Americans can not access nutrition information. That is laughable. it's also silly to claim that poor people "have to buy TV dinners." TV dinners are actually too expensive if you have a food budget of $80/week for a family of four, like I do.

I appreciate your kind empathy, but it's simply not true.

Acg67

Require all restaurants to post nutritional information on their menus.

Yup, accurate ones too.

So much this. Regardless of chain or not. They know what they're putting in it shouldn't be that hard. And let's be honest, if they had to start reporting calorie counts and sodium content a lot of places would stop the abuse of butter and salt in their recipes.

Most restaurants don't use butter in their recipes...............they use cheap seed oils such as canola, corn, soy, etc.

There is nothing wrong with butter in the least.

I was referring to quantities used. There is such thing as too much butter.

Restaurants don't use real butter and very few chain restaurants actually do cooking. Most of the crap they serve is either frozen or canned. The only butter might be on the potato they bring to you and maybe a bit for your bread at the table.

Your ignorance of the restaurant industry is outstanding

Greytfish

give all the current subsidies to organic farmers / outlaw GMOs, (even russia's doing it)

Yes great idea, and in the process you will effectively put small farmers out of business, increase poverty, and add to world hunger!! Great idea!!!!!!

Do you really believe that bull????? Monsanto doesn't feed the world as they claim. Don't be a sheeple, do some research as to what they do with what they grow.............it doesn't go to end world hunger.

I am NOT a sheeple. I am an individual who has lived in the ag world all my life. It pays the bills and feeds my family. We are small operation, yes, and putting more regulations on farmers just adds to the pain. It is not feasible to feed the entire world on "organic" crops. The cost is super high and the yield is low. I have done the research thank you. Have you, or are you just believing what you are told by the media?

There's a world of real, workable possibilities in the huge gulf between GMO/Subsidized garbage and totally organic.

tigersword

Require all restaurants to post nutritional information on their menus.

Yup, accurate ones too.

So much this. Regardless of chain or not. They know what they're putting in it shouldn't be that hard. And let's be honest, if they had to start reporting calorie counts and sodium content a lot of places would stop the abuse of butter and salt in their recipes.

Most restaurants don't use butter in their recipes...............they use cheap seed oils such as canola, corn, soy, etc.

There is nothing wrong with butter in the least.

I was referring to quantities used. There is such thing as too much butter.

Restaurants don't use real butter and very few chain restaurants actually do cooking. Most of the crap they serve is either frozen or canned. The only butter might be on the potato they bring to you and maybe a bit for your bread at the table.

As someone who has spent decades in the restaurant business, I can quite honestly say that you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Not that you had much credibility before, but at least now I know for a fact that you just completely make up any lies you can to try and push your own misguided agenda.

PaleoPath4Lyfe

Require all restaurants to post nutritional information on their menus.

Yup, accurate ones too.

So much this. Regardless of chain or not. They know what they're putting in it shouldn't be that hard. And let's be honest, if they had to start reporting calorie counts and sodium content a lot of places would stop the abuse of butter and salt in their recipes.

Most restaurants don't use butter in their recipes...............they use cheap seed oils such as canola, corn, soy, etc.

There is nothing wrong with butter in the least.

I was referring to quantities used. There is such thing as too much butter.

Restaurants don't use real butter and very few chain restaurants actually do cooking. Most of the crap they serve is either frozen or canned. The only butter might be on the potato they bring to you and maybe a bit for your bread at the table.

As someone who has spent decades in the restaurant business, I can quite honestly say that you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Not that you had much credibility before, but at least now I know for a fact that you just completely make up any lies you can to try and push your own misguided agenda.

My sister works in the restaurant industry as a general manager and has worked at a variety of different types of restaurants and she has told our family what that food is really like in the chain restaurants.

They use seed oils to cook with and most of that food is NOT fresh cooked, but rather warmed up from its frozen state. She has said about the only things that are actually cooked are steaks, burgers and some chicken. Its not cooked from scratch in the kitchens of those restaurants.

I do know what I am talking about.

PaleoPath4Lyfe

Require all restaurants to post nutritional information on their menus.

Yup, accurate ones too.

So much this. Regardless of chain or not. They know what they're putting in it shouldn't be that hard. And let's be honest, if they had to start reporting calorie counts and sodium content a lot of places would stop the abuse of butter and salt in their recipes.

Most restaurants don't use butter in their recipes...............they use cheap seed oils such as canola, corn, soy, etc.

There is nothing wrong with butter in the least.

I was referring to quantities used. There is such thing as too much butter.

Restaurants don't use real butter and very few chain restaurants actually do cooking. Most of the crap they serve is either frozen or canned. The only butter might be on the potato they bring to you and maybe a bit for your bread at the table.

Your ignorance of the restaurant industry is outstanding

That is not ignorance, its the truth. I have a family member that has worked in many different areas of the restaurant industry and she educated me on the ins and outs of what goes on behind those kitchen doors.

I asked her why she doesn't eat any food from where she works and its because it is NOT fresh cooked. Most, not all, comes from frozen, packaged and canned crap.

fruitikay

More honest labeling with ingredients. The only objectiion to the "it's just personal responsiblity" arguments I have is that not everyone has the resources to be knowledgeable about health, afford better brands, or resources to engage in being "more informed." I'm talking about the working class who have to buy TV dinners or other cheap foods to get by. They have no choice in what they buy as food because the only food they can buy are the cheap brands. Yet those brands contain terrrible ingredients, bad nutrition, etc. Sure, it's food, but we end up with a society where the poor are malnurished, and the middle class or wealthy have access and resources to healthier and more sustainable sources of food. If that sits well with you, then ok. But to me, I feel like there needs to be a little bit more regulation regarding ingredients other than just the labeling--perhaps banning certain chemicals, additives, perservatives, and GMO's we don't know are completely safe. (Keep in mind, just because they haven't been confirmed to NOT be safe, some also haven't been confirmed TO BE safe).

But I don't know, this could bring about unintended consequences as well. It's an interesting discussion.

"Brands" have nothing to do with nutrition. And as a member of the class of working poor, I find it hilarious to make the claim that Americans can not access nutrition information. That is laughable. it's also silly to claim that poor people "have to buy TV dinners." TV dinners are actually too expensive if you have a food budget of $80/week for a family of four, like I do.

I appreciate your kind empathy, but it's simply not true.

Ok, I apologize. I am not a member of the working class, so I can't claim to understand that reality. And yes, "brands" and types of products have a lot to do with nutrition. Amy's company, for example, has whole organic food ingredients, prodivding you with more adequate nutrition. Other companies with similar products are cheaper, but they contain chemicals and other non-foods that haven't been proven to be safe (nor unsafe, like I said before). What I'm saying that we should go beyond honest labeling.

As far as TV dinners, I accept that was a completely incorrect and probably ignorant statement. Again, I don't know that reality, so I can't claim to know. But I do know that buying whole foods it's typically more expensive than buying processed foods. I know many who would love to buy organic whole foods, but it is not within there means. Sometimes it isn't even in mine, depending on the month. So I suppose I was making a generalized blanketed uneducated statement, and for that I apologize.

When I mentioned resources, I didn't mean the access to nutrition information, I meant the access to information/research regarding ingredients and nutriton label reading. Sometimes it requires interenet usage, which many actually do not have. Everyone thinks that "Oh, America, we all have the SAME opportunities and the SAME access to information..." No...those of us with internet access, despite our backgrounds, are actually more privileged than those who don't.

Again I'm not trying to pretend like I understand your situation. I'm also not trying to be any type of "savior." I just think banning certain things that have not been proven to be safe or healthy for the body is probable, and that "personal responsibility" doesn't apply to everyone.

I could be wrong, though, as I said. I could be completely off.

Acg67

Require all restaurants to post nutritional information on their menus.

Yup, accurate ones too.

So much this. Regardless of chain or not. They know what they're putting in it shouldn't be that hard. And let's be honest, if they had to start reporting calorie counts and sodium content a lot of places would stop the abuse of butter and salt in their recipes.

Most restaurants don't use butter in their recipes...............they use cheap seed oils such as canola, corn, soy, etc.

There is nothing wrong with butter in the least.

I was referring to quantities used. There is such thing as too much butter.

Restaurants don't use real butter and very few chain restaurants actually do cooking. Most of the crap they serve is either frozen or canned. The only butter might be on the potato they bring to you and maybe a bit for your bread at the table.

Your ignorance of the restaurant industry is outstanding

That is not ignorance, its the truth. I have a family member that has worked in many different areas of the restaurant industry and she educated me on the ins and outs of what goes on behind those kitchen doors.

I asked her why she doesn't eat any food from where she works and its because it is NOT fresh cooked. Most, not all, comes from frozen, packaged and canned crap.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-authority

JustSomeEm

give all the current subsidies to organic farmers / outlaw GMOs, (even russia's doing it)

That's silly and Russia just rounded up stray dogs in sochi and killed them, should we do that as well?

I think that if we rounded up stray dogs in Sochi, Russia might get upset. Just sayin.

BrainyBurro

Require all restaurants to post nutritional information on their menus.

Yup, accurate ones too.

So much this. Regardless of chain or not. They know what they're putting in it shouldn't be that hard. And let's be honest, if they had to start reporting calorie counts and sodium content a lot of places would stop the abuse of butter and salt in their recipes.

Most restaurants don't use butter in their recipes...............they use cheap seed oils such as canola, corn, soy, etc.

There is nothing wrong with butter in the least.

I was referring to quantities used. There is such thing as too much butter.

Restaurants don't use real butter and very few chain restaurants actually do cooking. Most of the crap they serve is either frozen or canned. The only butter might be on the potato they bring to you and maybe a bit for your bread at the table.

Your ignorance of the restaurant industry is outstanding

That is not ignorance, its the truth. I have a family member that has worked in many different areas of the restaurant industry and she educated me on the ins and outs of what goes on behind those kitchen doors.

I asked her why she doesn't eat any food from where she works and its because it is NOT fresh cooked. Most, not all, comes from frozen, packaged and canned crap.

if your definition of a restaurant is McDonald's or Olive Garden, then maybe...

...but if you went to a real restaurant you'd find your response is not even slightly truthful. perhaps you don't understand what chefs and line cooks do all evening to earn their paychecks (hint: it's not putting pre-made frozen foods into the microwave).

Krissy366

100% menu labeling. All nutritional info for all items.

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rml_16

most of that food is NOT fresh cooked, but rather warmed up from its frozen state. She has said about the only things that are actually cooked are steaks, burgers and some chicken. Its not cooked from scratch in the kitchens of those restaurants.

I would never have known this if you hadn't told me.

Next you're going to tell me Olive Garden doesn't make its desserts fresh on-site or that some restaurants buy their desserts from bakeries instead of making them in their own kitchens.

The horror!

Dugleik

give all the current subsidies to organic farmers / outlaw GMOs, (even russia's doing it)

That's silly and Russia just rounded up stray dogs in sochi and killed them, should we do that as well?

To me 'Because Russia did it' is never a valid answer.

Dugleik

Get rid of the FDA & subsidies for corn &soy

Why?

Dugleik

Less nannystatism, more personal responsibility

Could you give specifics?

PaleoPath4Lyfe

Require all restaurants to post nutritional information on their menus.

Yup, accurate ones too.

So much this. Regardless of chain or not. They know what they're putting in it shouldn't be that hard. And let's be honest, if they had to start reporting calorie counts and sodium content a lot of places would stop the abuse of butter and salt in their recipes.

Most restaurants don't use butter in their recipes...............they use cheap seed oils such as canola, corn, soy, etc.

There is nothing wrong with butter in the least.

I was referring to quantities used. There is such thing as too much butter.

Restaurants don't use real butter and very few chain restaurants actually do cooking. Most of the crap they serve is either frozen or canned. The only butter might be on the potato they bring to you and maybe a bit for your bread at the table.

As someone who has spent decades in the restaurant business, I can quite honestly say that you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Not that you had much credibility before, but at least now I know for a fact that you just completely make up any lies you can to try and push your own misguided agenda.

My sister works in the restaurant industry as a general manager and has worked at a variety of different types of restaurants and she has told our family what that food is really like in the chain restaurants.

They use seed oils to cook with and most of that food is NOT fresh cooked, but rather warmed up from its frozen state. She has said about the only things that are actually cooked are steaks, burgers and some chicken. Its not cooked from scratch in the kitchens of those restaurants.

I do know what I am talking about.

Sounds to me like your sister is a lousy restaurant manager.

I don't think that equals "most restaurants don't cook food."

My sister is a fantastic restaurant manager and actually when she went to work at a different restaurant many of the employees also requested to go that restaurant or quit all together.

They don't cook most of the food. Its re-heated crap. This is why we rarely eat out any more.

There are plenty of people that work in the restaurant industry that corroborates what she is the rest of us family members also.

JesChernosky

Less nannystatism, more personal responsibility

THIS!

Unless people start taking responsibility for themselves nothing will truly be accomplished.