Great.. The damn PLATEAU !!

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  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member

    to gain muscle at maintenance are noob gains, very very amazing genetics, drugs or obese.

    And this is very very very hard to do...so we can say with 99% accuracy that you can't put muscle on at maintenance...esp in this case.

    You don't know 99% of people though?

    There have been studies shown and I know people personally that do this that are none of the above.

    What the hell I'll quote a study for you: data from this study suggest that athletes who want to gain LeanBodyMass and increase 1RepMax strength during a WeightLoss period combined with strength training should aim for a weekly BodyWeight loss of 0.7%
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21558571

    As i said, me personally I prefer to bulk. But 99% cant put on muscle at maintenance. Bull****. The body has to adapt. You think if i'm benching 315 and squatting 405 at maintenance I wont look like it?


    apparently reading comprehension is > you

    strength gains /=/ size gains.
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  • jko90s
    jko90s Posts: 25


    apparently reading comprehension is > you

    strength gains /=/ size gains.

    Lol. Okay sure yeah anyway I've said what I wanted to say.
  • How are you getting enough sleep if you're going to bed at 10:30-11 pm and getting up at 5 am? Surely that has to be at least part of the problem!
  • JayDavila
    JayDavila Posts: 146 Member
    How are you getting enough sleep if you're going to bed at 10:30-11 pm and getting up at 5 am? Surely that has to be at least part of the problem!

    I dont doubt that. Specially being that I wake up several times a night as well.
  • JayDavila
    JayDavila Posts: 146 Member
    Ok I have a few minutes before i leave to the gym. Let me see if I understand this so far. I have misunderstood my situation and confused it with being at my maintenance period. I have 2 options at this point.
    Decrease my caloric intake or Increase it and workout harder?
    Sorry if ive missed responses I haven't been able to get to a PC to properly read up all the responses.

    I will get back and read up and do some research online as soon as I can.
    Thanks everyone.
  • JayDavila
    JayDavila Posts: 146 Member
    I don't believe in plateaus. I think they are total BS perpetuated by the media. Lower your intake, or move more, or some combo of both. Congrats though, you've found your maintenance level for where you are now, and what you do now.

    PLATEAU or Maintenance whatever it is, are there more benefits of choosing lets say intake without having draw backs of muscle gain/breakdown? (If that makes sense, hard to explain what I mean)

    I'm leaning towards intake, specially when I can be doing better in that area anyway.
    Thank you.

    Thank you

    Are you asking about a recomp?

    That's what I'm doing right now. I don't want to cut, but I don't want to gain. So, I'm eating at maintenance, and retaining a little ft, and working my *kitten* off in the gym to burn fat, and fill that fat space with muscle. That's not the exact process, but that's how I think about it.
  • JayDavila
    JayDavila Posts: 146 Member
    Maintenance = Calorie intake to maintain your body mass (fat, muscle etc)
    Deficit = Eating under your maintenance either from too much activity (lifestyle gym etc) or eating under maintenance calorie
    Surplus = Eating over your maintenance

    When at a deficit we lose weight, surplus we gain weight. This weight will be a mixture of fat and muscle depending on your lifestyle and diet

    At a deficit we try to lose mainly fat, at a surplus we try to gain mainly muscle

    Thanks again for the explanation
  • cousa87
    cousa87 Posts: 7 Member
    I feel ya. I've been on This diet plan a month soon. The First week i Lost about 7 lbs, after that - Nothing!!! I'm just about To give up ( i wont though :)...
    im eating 1200 calories, have cheated 3 times. And i exercise a couple Times a week.


    sooooo frustrating!!!