Infrared saunas + saunas and detox safe?

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  • 1pandabear
    1pandabear Posts: 336 Member
    just a thought, you know that infrared is just light, (which has a longer wavelength than visible light), and it corresponds to thermal radiation, aka heat
    saunas and also heating pads can be comforting for pain
    though as someone pointed out it is important you keep hydrated for your health too
    so sorry you have endometriosis
    hope it gets better
  • spg71
    spg71 Posts: 179 Member
    Well all i know is after sitting in the sauna for a three or 4, 20mins sessions and a swim in between i feel great. Nothing better on a lazy day sometimes than to visit the gym, ignore every treadmill, workout machine and just sit in the sauna :)

    Helps me lose loads of weight for about a hr until get back home and drink a entire lake to replenish the fluids.
  • I currently reside in Australia and of the opinion there are no doubt capable naturopaths who are well versed in science, nutrition, medicine etc but it is an issue of doing your research and find a reputable one who goes beyond anecdotal science and personal bias...like there are many people on mfp who are much more knowledgeable about nutrition than a lot of GPs I have meet but have no credentials as such.

    The problem in my country is there is no real regulation when it comes to the competency of people who call themselves naturopaths.

    The last naturopathic workforce survey found that 10 per cent of naturopaths had no qualifications whatsoever. This is where the quackery really comes from.

    And this doesn’t just mean training in naturopathy but in basic health sciences as well.

    One of the largest risks from naturopathy comes not from what practitioners will do to you, but rather what they don’t do – namely referring to another practitioner when the condition is serious, beyond their scope or they are not getting results. Recognizing these red flag situations requires minimum standards of education.

    I totally agree, you need to do your research first. I believe I have..firstly my girlfriend has used this naturopath off and on for 10yrs. This naturopath has taken 6yrs of pre med studies in university where the recommendation is 3yrs,followed by 4yrs of basic medical and clinical sciences, naturopathic principles and therapeutics, and 1,500 hours of supervised clinical experience. He then had exams to certify to train in ontario and north america. While he believes in naturopathy he also believes there is a time and place for conventional medicine and doesn't hesitate to recommend it when needed. My initial visit he gathered so much information from me, it was a 2hr visit. I provided him with all my recent labs, test results, surgery reports etc..so he would have a full picture. He's not anti traditional medicine he just believes in a different approach. I believe from what I've seen thus far he is educated and not so hung up on his beliefs that he would hesitate to send me for further testing if he felt I needed it.
  • tiptoethruthetulips
    tiptoethruthetulips Posts: 3,371 Member
    I have used an infrared FIR sauna many times..not for weight loss but for other health reasons. I always felt better for having used it, and have often thought about buying one but figure it would just become a hidey hole for the junk around the house.

    Most turn up the temp too high, only needs to go to about 35 or 36 degs.

    I would have thought that any weight loss would be very temporary as it would only be fluid loss and weight would be regained on rehydration.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    There might be good naturopaths but the one you're using isn't one of them. The treatments he's prescribed for you are generic scams.
  • seamaiden1000
    seamaiden1000 Posts: 76 Member
    I have experienced PROFOUND, Immediate and long lasting effects from combining sauna (electric rock) sessions with ocean pool swims. If your sauna is not next to an ocean pool a swim or bath in cold water can have similar results. I continue to have such sessions on a regular basis but as my general health has much improved since the first time I tried this combo the effects are no longer as profoundly noticeable.

    The sauna I go to is by an ocean 50 metre pool. There are many Russians (some of whom even wear a woolly cap while in the sauna!), many quite older folk(70's-80's), as well as a few local football heroes (a sight for sore eyes!) that are regulars. Also we have many Scandinavian tourists during the summer months. All these people are robust and healthy. A friend of mine who suffered heavy metal and other toxic poisoning due to her volunteering in clearing the 9/11 site had to undergo saunas to help detox her body. Thankfully she has regained her mental faculties after a few years of such and other detox therapy.

    In my own case I was going through a protracted and very stressful time. It was summer and the days were averaging between 35-40 degrees Celsius. However the ocean was particularly cold as the currents were coming from the south (pole) and furthermore, iceberg chunks were migrating up the coast, which is most unusual. The end result was that lifesavers were kept busy dragging people out of the ocean due to swimmers suffering cramps brought on by the extreme cold water temperature. To avoid being frozen and not wishing to take forever to warm up after a dip I decided to go to the local ocean pool which had a sauna so that I could thaw after my swim. I did the sauna first before daring to plunge into the icy water of the pool and started swimming for all I was worth.

    Well, I cannot begin to describe how magnificent it felt plunging into icy cold water straight out of a sauna. It felt like I had a million acupuncture needles attack every nerve of my body. It felt AMAZING as my body's sauna fired heat give way to the cold and then feeling my own body heat pump up again as I swam, fervently, before the water temperature, after a few laps, meant I needed to head straight back into the sauna in order to thaw. I felt TOTALLY relaxed. My minor muscle aches left me, as did my anxiety, as did my capacity to string sentences together... It was like I was floating for the next few days, and sleeping like a baby.

    The stressful time in my life has since passed but I continue with my sauna and ocean swim combo once a week. While at the sauna I also take the time to treat my hair with a mask before my final rinse in the showers. There are seasons when I do ocean pool swims (and without a wetsuit) throughout the year, though I cannot stay in the pool for as many laps in winter due to the windchill factor. The effects on my nervous system is not as it happened the first time as continuous practise means that my overall health, stress levels and immunity have much improved. I am a strong believer in the therapeutic effects of a sauna particularly when it is combined with a cold dip. I think a fair few of us must either be insane or else gain great benefit combining saunas with ice cold swims as there is standing room only in winter in the sauna, between braving a few laps.

    Saunas, if nothing else relax your muscles and speed the healing of physical injuries. Their capacity to reduce stress and anxiety means that your cortisol levels are kept in check. That alone means you are less prone to belly fat.
  • shann1979
    shann1979 Posts: 13 Member
    I've used a naturopath before when my physician couldnt find the cause of my fingers swelling and joint problems. Turns out I had gout and naturopath found it and helped me get better. Its not always the answer but sometimes more natural solutions work alot better.

    I also have an infrared sauna in my home and i LOVE it! I find it relieves stress, helps joint and muscle pain and helps me sweat out some toxins. I love the infrared because you dont get that soffocating feeling like a typical sauna, its more a feeling of laying on a hot beach in the sand!

    I know not everyone shares in my opinion, just thought I would throw it out there though. You can always try out a sauna at a spa or health center and see if you like it. Or if you have other questions just message me =)
  • I've used a naturopath before when my physician couldnt find the cause of my fingers swelling and joint problems. Turns out I had gout and naturopath found it and helped me get better. Its not always the answer but sometimes more natural solutions work alot better.

    I also have an infrared sauna in my home and i LOVE it! I find it relieves stress, helps joint and muscle pain and helps me sweat out some toxins. I love the infrared because you dont get that soffocating feeling like a typical sauna, its more a feeling of laying on a hot beach in the sand!

    I know not everyone shares in my opinion, just thought I would throw it out there though. You can always try out a sauna at a spa or health center and see if you like it. Or if you have other questions just message me =)

    Thanks for your input. I was really just curious about them since I hadn't heard of it before. I've not used them personally but i do love regular saunas because like you mention it does make my joint pain better. As for the naturopath..I'm still undecided if it's going to help but i have been following what he suggests for the last 3wks and so far I can say my pain from endometriosis has gotten a bit better. Also..through blood work he recommended I found i was very deficient in vitamin d. So if i get nothing else out of my visit with him at least through his exam i found that. ;)