The Walking Dead
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When Tyrese find's out that Carol killed his girlfriend she is in trouble.
Wait I thought he already knew? I assumed that's why she looked so shocked when he ran up and hugged her.
Lizzie I don't think was trying to kill Judith but she definitely was getting some kind of pleasure by putting a hand across her face... that's how it starts (in the serial killer movies anyway).
Was kind of sad I didn't see Carl and Rick answer the door, but that is what we expected...
No Tyrese did not know. Rick never told him. Carol assumed that he might know. Hence her surprise.
I guess I will have to see the scene again. I saw frustration in Lizzy's face, not any "pleasure." So weird.0 -
I can't believe she tried to kill Judith. I never liked her.
I'm not convinced she was trying to kill her, just trying to shut her up. She is a little girl, after all.
Did you not see the crazed look on her face!!? Didn't she kill that rabbit, too? Lizzie..Lizzie...
I LOVE this show and last week's episode was AWESOME the way they showed Rick waking up sounding and acting as if HE were a walker and Carl sh#tting in his pants!!!
Can't wait to see what Tyrese does when he finds out about Carol. What a coinkydinky they meet up. HHmmmm.
To me it looked like she was frustrated, which is completely normal. I missed the part about the rabbit. I will have to watch again. Everyone is seeing weird crap that I didn't. :laugh:0 -
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Okay, there was a pile of zombies that Tyrese and 2 strangers killed before both of the strangers were bitten on the train tracks.
Is that the same scene that Darell and the young girl (can't remember her name) found when they saw the abandoned shoe and lost it?
I keep trying to figure out if the stories are being told in parallel.
The two men had been with Carol. Tyrese tried to help them, but couldn't save them. Then later, Daryl and Beth came upon both of them.
So, yes, it was parallel. None of the characters are very far away from each other. (which makes sense because they are all on foot)
(Maybe I'm not the one who needs to re-watch after all? :laugh: )0 -
I can't believe she tried to kill Judith. I never liked her.
I'm not convinced she was trying to kill her, just trying to shut her up. She is a little girl, after all.
I think Lizzie is mirroring a character from the graphic novels that most certainly IS a psychopath (kills animals and murders his own twin brother). So yeah, Lizzie is a psycho.
She *might* be mirroring a character from the comics? I never read the comics, just going by the clues in the show. Also sociopath =/= psychopath. The others are claiming she's a sociopath, now you are claiming she's a psychopath.
Learn what words mean before using them in sentences, please! :flowerforyou:
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FTR:
Characteristics of a sociopath are as followed :
1. Sociopaths are very charming.
2. Sociopaths can be extremely manipulative and will try to con you whenever possible.
3. Sociopaths feel that they are entitled to everything.
4. Sociopaths will lie continuously to get what they want. They can even sometimes manipulate a lie detector.
5. Sociopaths have no remorse, shame or guilt.
6. Sociopaths will show love and happiness only when it serves their purpose. None of the feelings are genuine.
7. Sociopaths have no room for love in their life.
8. Sociopaths need to have excitement in their lives or live on the edge.
9. Sociopaths have lack of empathy hen their victims suffer pain that they have caused.
10. Sociopaths believe that they are all mightier than tho, there is no concern on how their behavior impacts others.
11. Sociopaths usually have a long history of juvenile delinquency as well as behavior problems.
12. Sociopaths will never take blame for anything they have done to anyone no matter if it is family or friend.
13. Sociopaths have many sexual partners and tend to act out many sexual acts.
14. Sociopaths rarely stay in one place for a long time (home/work).
15. Sociopaths will change themselves if they know it will keep them from being found out.0 -
I can't believe she tried to kill Judith. I never liked her.
I'm not convinced she was trying to kill her, just trying to shut her up. She is a little girl, after all.
I think Lizzie is mirroring a character from the graphic novels that most certainly IS a psychopath (kills animals and murders his own twin brother). So yeah, Lizzie is a psycho.
She *might* be mirroring a character from the comics? I never read the comics, just going by the clues in the show. Also sociopath =/= psychopath. The others are claiming she's a sociopath, now you are claiming she's a psychopath.
Learn what words mean before using them in sentences, please! :flowerforyou:
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Holy read-into-it-too-much-and-be-a-****-about-it, Batman.
Changed my mind. Elaborating.
I never used the term sociopath, others did.. I used the term psychopath.
"FTR:"
"The term “psychopath” is usually used to describe a person that has crossed the line of moral behavior in a society. They’re the murderers, the school shooters, the manipulative cult leaders. They’re the ones mutilating animals just to see what happens. They’re also the ones that society views as a danger to others. On the other hand, a person is deemed a sociopath when they have the lack of emotion and ability to relate to others, but aren’t a threat to society. While they’re not as dangerous, they can still be destructive in a smaller, personal setting such as in friendships, romantic relationships, or in a family. But they’re generally not going to go on a killing spree."
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"They’re the ones mutilating animals just to see what happens." Like, say, rats in a prison... or rabbits by a log? Hmmm.0 -
I can't believe she tried to kill Judith. I never liked her.
I'm not convinced she was trying to kill her, just trying to shut her up. She is a little girl, after all.
I think Lizzie is mirroring a character from the graphic novels that most certainly IS a psychopath (kills animals and murders his own twin brother). So yeah, Lizzie is a psycho.
She *might* be mirroring a character from the comics? I never read the comics, just going by the clues in the show. Also sociopath =/= psychopath. The others are claiming she's a sociopath, now you are claiming she's a psychopath.
Learn what words mean before using them in sentences, please! :flowerforyou:
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Holy read-into-it-too-much-and-be-a-****-about-it, Batman. Not even going to elaborate or get defensive, because you are obviously the kind of person that just wants to argue for argument's sake.
No, I just don't psychoanalyze TV show characters. But if I did, I would use accurate terms. Don't get butthurt over my opinions. It's all good. :flowerforyou:0 -
None of my friends believed me about Judith and Carol but I was spot on with those two predictions.I can't believe she tried to kill Judith. I never liked her.
Lizzy is def a girl I have a hard time getting a good read on. I have a gut feeling though that she was the one feeding the rats to the zombies. Don't know why.... just a feeling.
She sees the zombies as the former people that they were. She seems to be holding out hope that humans and zombies can live together.
So she's just an idiot, not a sociopath?0 -
Okay, there was a pile of zombies that Tyrese and 2 strangers killed before both of the strangers were bitten on the train tracks.
Is that the same scene that Darell and the young girl (can't remember her name) found when they saw the abandoned shoe and lost it?
I keep trying to figure out if the stories are being told in parallel.
The two men had been with Carol. Tyrese tried to help them, but couldn't save them. Then later, Daryl and Beth came upon both of them.
So, yes, it was parallel. None of the characters are very far away from each other. (which makes sense because they are all on foot)
(Maybe I'm not the one who needs to re-watch after all? :laugh: )
no, you def do need to rewatch. your little girl hero is a psycho.0 -
Ah after reading some of these, I definitely need to re-watch. It makes sense that that guy that Tyrese and Carol left alive after he got bit was the one that almost bit Beth. I also agree that Beth just needs to go, but of course she'll be fine since she's with Daryl. And the bunnies that Lizzie slaughtered too ... they were there before Daryl and Beth went through there
I had a feeling Tyrese had Judith just from the scene of the end of last "season" .. he was running with his arms cradling something - we couldn't see what it was he was holding, but it definitely wasn't a weapon cause that was slung on his back.
Only question I have (and again, I will have to re-watch). The shoe of the little kid, was that the little boy that was with Lizzie and her sister before when they were carrying Judith out in the baby carrier? And there was another little girl with him as well ..
Also, how did Tara know Glen's name? You know, when she was trying to wake him up ... Did he tell her his name?
I also think it was a good idea that Tyrese didn't know about Carol .. that would have been awkward, but you can definitely see a change in Carol.
Lizzie - oh yeah, that girl is a nutcase. She was absolutely going to kill Judith - she had that zoned out look in her eye and never even flinched when her sister fired the gun. She was probably the one that was dissecting the rats in the prison .. as for feeding the rats to the walkers, not so sure because she would have had to been on a ladder or something ... she's not that tall.
Maggie will probably freak out when she sees Glen with Tara .. just because she was with the group that killed her dad. Tara's playing for the other team so I don't think she has any interest in Glen in a sexual sort of way. I guess her sister did get killed after she killed the Govenor.
Interested to see who the new people are .. I never read the comics either.0 -
None of my friends believed me about Judith and Carol but I was spot on with those two predictions.I can't believe she tried to kill Judith. I never liked her.
Lizzy is def a girl I have a hard time getting a good read on. I have a gut feeling though that she was the one feeding the rats to the zombies. Don't know why.... just a feeling.
She sees the zombies as the former people that they were. She seems to be holding out hope that humans and zombies can live together.
So she's just an idiot, not a sociopath?
Well, she's a little kid, so ignorant is a better word than stupid. She's what? 9 years old or so? :laugh:0 -
Okay, there was a pile of zombies that Tyrese and 2 strangers killed before both of the strangers were bitten on the train tracks.
Is that the same scene that Darell and the young girl (can't remember her name) found when they saw the abandoned shoe and lost it?
I keep trying to figure out if the stories are being told in parallel.
The two men had been with Carol. Tyrese tried to help them, but couldn't save them. Then later, Daryl and Beth came upon both of them.
So, yes, it was parallel. None of the characters are very far away from each other. (which makes sense because they are all on foot)
(Maybe I'm not the one who needs to re-watch after all? :laugh: )
no, you def do need to rewatch. your little girl hero is a psycho.
Is she a psycho or a sociopath? Dammit, Jim, I'm a TV sloth, not a head-shrinker!
ETA: http://www.businessinsider.com/20-signs-that-you-are-a-psychopath-2013-9?op=10 -
I'm glad Carol is back. She's got skills the group could use. Baby Judith has a chance of growing up now that Lizzy isn't the only one babysitting her.
I haven't read the comics, so I can't tell if this new group Glenn and whatever her name is ran into is a good or bad.
I feel like they will be bad new. Now that the Governor is gone, there needs to be another "bad guy". The show isn't sticking too close to the comic story line. In the comics, Baby Judith dies when Lori gets shot and falls on top of her stomach. (I think that's how it went down). All I know, you should probably never trust a 6'2'' ginger. the guy looks like bad news.
I've been told that in the comic book, he kind of starts off a bad guy, but then evolves to be the new leader of the group.0 -
I about freaked when they left that poor baby laying on the ground like a snack!0
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I can't believe she tried to kill Judith. I never liked her.
I'm not convinced she was trying to kill her, just trying to shut her up. She is a little girl, after all.
I think Lizzie is mirroring a character from the graphic novels that most certainly IS a psychopath (kills animals and murders his own twin brother). So yeah, Lizzie is a psycho.
She *might* be mirroring a character from the comics? I never read the comics, just going by the clues in the show. Also sociopath =/= psychopath. The others are claiming she's a sociopath, now you are claiming she's a psychopath.
Learn what words mean before using them in sentences, please! :flowerforyou:
:laugh:
Holy read-into-it-too-much-and-be-a-****-about-it, Batman.
Changed my mind. Elaborating.
I never used the term sociopath, others did.. I used the term psychopath.
"FTR:"
"The term “psychopath” is usually used to describe a person that has crossed the line of moral behavior in a society. They’re the murderers, the school shooters, the manipulative cult leaders. They’re the ones mutilating animals just to see what happens. They’re also the ones that society views as a danger to others. On the other hand, a person is deemed a sociopath when they have the lack of emotion and ability to relate to others, but aren’t a threat to society. While they’re not as dangerous, they can still be destructive in a smaller, personal setting such as in friendships, romantic relationships, or in a family. But they’re generally not going to go on a killing spree."
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"They’re the ones mutilating animals just to see what happens." Like, say, rats in a prison... or rabbits by a log? Hmmm.
Okay no... a sociopath knows the difference between right and wrong and does not care. A psychopath is delusional and knows the difference between right and wrong, but the lines get blurred by the delusion.
Sociopaths are more likely to become homicidal than psychopaths. As a matter of fact, with proper medication and treatment, psychopaths can live fully functional lives without ever hurting anyone. Sociopaths will kill if it gets them what they want because they simply do not care that it is wrong.0 -
Carol is covering for Lizzy. It makes the most sense with what we've seen of them both. Michonne should lop her head off ninja style...after she turns of course
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I can't believe she tried to kill Judith. I never liked her.
I'm not convinced she was trying to kill her, just trying to shut her up. She is a little girl, after all.
I think Lizzie is mirroring a character from the graphic novels that most certainly IS a psychopath (kills animals and murders his own twin brother). So yeah, Lizzie is a psycho.
She *might* be mirroring a character from the comics? I never read the comics, just going by the clues in the show. Also sociopath =/= psychopath. The others are claiming she's a sociopath, now you are claiming she's a psychopath.
Learn what words mean before using them in sentences, please! :flowerforyou:
:laugh:
Holy read-into-it-too-much-and-be-a-****-about-it, Batman.
Changed my mind. Elaborating.
I never used the term sociopath, others did.. I used the term psychopath.
"FTR:"
"The term “psychopath” is usually used to describe a person that has crossed the line of moral behavior in a society. They’re the murderers, the school shooters, the manipulative cult leaders. They’re the ones mutilating animals just to see what happens. They’re also the ones that society views as a danger to others. On the other hand, a person is deemed a sociopath when they have the lack of emotion and ability to relate to others, but aren’t a threat to society. While they’re not as dangerous, they can still be destructive in a smaller, personal setting such as in friendships, romantic relationships, or in a family. But they’re generally not going to go on a killing spree."
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"They’re the ones mutilating animals just to see what happens." Like, say, rats in a prison... or rabbits by a log? Hmmm.
Okay no... a sociopath knows the difference between right and wrong and does not care. A psychopath is delusional and knows the difference between right and wrong, but the lines get blurred by the delusion.
Sociopaths are more likely to be come homicidal than psychopaths. As a matter of fact, with proper medication and treatment, psychopaths can live fully functional lives without ever hurting anyone. Sociopaths will kill if it gets them what they want because they simply do not care that it is wrong.
Excellent explanation!
I just don't think we have enough evidence on the girl. She is a little creepy, sure, but a lot of "creepy" kids turn out to be awesome adults.0 -
Carol is covering for Lizzy. It makes the most sense with what we've seen of them both. Michonne should lop her head off ninja style...after she turns of course
That is an interesting theory. I haven't heard that one yet. My bet is still on Carol doing the killing. I think the planning is a bit advanced for a child, but I won't put anything past these writers in terms of plot twists!0 -
Lizzy slaughtered the cute lil bunnies for no reason, I could see her hack up a sick adult. Sure, Carol must've caught her then "disposed" of the bodies to cover up.0
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Lizzy slaughtered the cute lil bunnies for no reason, I could see her hack up a sick adult. Sure, Carol must've caught her then "disposed" of the bodies to cover up.
The only problem with your theory is that Lizzy was also sick and quarantined.
One thing that I can say about this show: you can't trust ANYthing if you didn't actually see it. You never know!0 -
None of my friends believed me about Judith and Carol but I was spot on with those two predictions.I can't believe she tried to kill Judith. I never liked her.
Lizzy is def a girl I have a hard time getting a good read on. I have a gut feeling though that she was the one feeding the rats to the zombies. Don't know why.... just a feeling.
She sees the zombies as the former people that they were. She seems to be holding out hope that humans and zombies can live together.
So she's just an idiot, not a sociopath?
Well, she's a little kid, so ignorant is a better word than stupid. She's what? 9 years old or so? :laugh:
9 year olds don't know that you die when you don't breath or that you can't chill with things that kill you? wow, 9 year olds are a lot dumber than when I was 9.0 -
Lizzy slaughtered the cute lil bunnies for no reason, I could see her hack up a sick adult. Sure, Carol must've caught her then "disposed" of the bodies to cover up.
The only problem with your theory is that Lizzy was also sick and quarantined.
One thing that I can say about this show: you can't trust ANYthing if you didn't actually see it. You never know!
Which would make it all the more easy for her to be able to access the other sick and quarantined people.0 -
Lizzy slaughtered the cute lil bunnies for no reason, I could see her hack up a sick adult. Sure, Carol must've caught her then "disposed" of the bodies to cover up.
I've been thinking this too.0 -
So glad that Baby Judith is alive but I swear, I would never have Lizzy in supervisory role, EVER!!!
Lizzy is scarier then the walkers..PSYCHO KIDDIE0 -
I hear ya that makes a difference.
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The only problem with your theory is that Lizzy was also sick and quarantined.
One thing that I can say about this show: you can't trust ANYthing if you didn't actually see it. You never know!
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SO excited carol and baby Judith are back. I cant wait to see what happens next week! The new guys look pretty scary~0
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So glad that Baby Judith is alive but I swear, I would never have Lizzy in supervisory role, EVER!!!
Lizzy is scarier then the walkers..PSYCHO KIDDIE
I know! My husband and I were cringing when we thought Lizzie was going to suffocate Judith. She's definitely unhinged.0 -
I tell you the kid is a psycho. I think she was the one feeding the zombies with rats, she's got to be. Then seeing her trying to sophocate the baby, oh no! she's so mental. However, I'm glad that carol is back in the game! Can't wait to see what's next.0
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I am waiting for Carol and Darryl to get together again!:blushing:0
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