9 weeks of work and no weight loss. What's wrong?!?

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  • smanning1982
    smanning1982 Posts: 210 Member
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    Don't eat your exercise calories back. Weight loss if calorie deficit. If you're in a deficit you'll lose weight. They days I looked, your eating all your exercise calories back. What if you overcalculated the calories you burned? I say stick with the 1300 calories on non exercise days and maybe 1500 calories on exercise days.
  • kimberlycarlile
    kimberlycarlile Posts: 7 Member
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    I'm grateful for everyone's responses. I'm stunned so many would take the time to help me. Thanks so much.

    Given that I have said I'm measuring input and outgo as scientifically as I possibly can without living in a lab (i.e., I use an HRM that counts calories burned, I weigh my food with a food scale, etc.), the consensus seems to be that . . .

    the calorie deficit that is supposed to be built-in to MFP is not an adequate deficit. For some people.

    I can live with that! It's a free tool, after all. :-)

    I'll try under-eating my calorie goal by a couple hundred, and see if the needle moves.

    Thanks again, everybody.
  • LarryDUk
    LarryDUk Posts: 279 Member
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    You should try to lower the amount of carbs you are eating in a day and up your protein intake. Also, be careful on how much fruit you eat. Sugar, even from whole fruit, is still sugar.

    You said that you are doing a lot of cardio for exercise. Is it intense cardio or lower-intensity cardio? You'll want to be careful. Doing a lot of low-intensity cardio can result in decreased metabolic capacity, which can lead to plateaus. Try some more intense versions of exercise and add in more resistance training. Lifting weights not only burns calories while you are exercising, but also for another 24 hours or so as your muscles repair and recover.

    Allan

    Um... I walk 20+ miles a day.
  • ruffnstuff
    ruffnstuff Posts: 400 Member
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    Why don't you try the Atkins diet? The website is free and they send you a getting started kit. It worked for me and I am sure it will work for you.

    Uh, because she's already explained her philosophy of trying to maintain a sustainable lifestyle in which she can eat healthy but fit treats into her calories. She is not interested in cutting out food groups or choices.
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
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    Why don't you try the Atkins diet? The website is free and they send you a getting started kit. It worked for me and I am sure it will work for you.

    Don't. High-fat and no-carb is certainly not going to help. Keep a good balance of macros and stay away from fads.
  • DebbieLyn63
    DebbieLyn63 Posts: 2,650 Member
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    I'm going to say it again, it has NOTHING TO DO WITH CARBS.

    For YOU it may not. But for some people it DOES. How about let the people who are most like the OP, give her some tips that have worked for THEM. Unless you are a premenopausal woman, you cannot say what works for you will work for her.
  • DebbieLyn63
    DebbieLyn63 Posts: 2,650 Member
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    I'm grateful for everyone's responses. I'm stunned so many would take the time to help me. Thanks so much.

    Given that I have said I'm measuring input and outgo as scientifically as I possibly can without living in a lab (i.e., I use an HRM that counts calories burned, I weigh my food with a food scale, etc.), the consensus seems to be that . . .

    the calorie deficit that is supposed to be built-in to MFP is not an adequate deficit. For some people.

    I can live with that! It's a free tool, after all. :-)

    I'll try under-eating my calorie goal by a couple hundred, and see if the needle moves.

    Thanks again, everybody.

    Yeah, to get my BMR on here to show what mine actually is, I had to change my height to 4'9". So MFP now thinks I am a Hobbit! :laugh:
  • KerryITD
    KerryITD Posts: 94 Member
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    Have you had your body fat tested? What you needed to do to lose when you were younger may be different now because you have less lean body mass (including less muscle). After all, your fat doesn't need any calories and won't burn them either. :)

    Even the best HRM doesn't take body fat percentage into account, so it may be overestimating your burn.
  • angelapolite72
    angelapolite72 Posts: 26 Member
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    Lower your carbs and increase protein... I get good results with 40% Carbs, 40% Protein, 20% Fat. But you can pick something around there... Just change it from what you are getting now.

    This^^

    I'm doing the same 40/40/20. I'm in my 40's and it can be tough to lose weigh as we age. I notice if I eat too many carbs especially refined sugar (aka cookies, brownies and red wine are my weakness) I gain or don't lose.
    I think it's ok eating back your exercise calories, depending on how accurate you are with them. I use a fitbit and I ALWAYS eat back my exercise calories, as long as I have a calorie deficit, I don't worry about it.
  • almc170
    almc170 Posts: 1,093 Member
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    I'm going to say it again, it has NOTHING TO DO WITH CARBS.

    For YOU it may not. But for some people it DOES. How about let the people who are most like the OP, give her some tips that have worked for THEM. Unless you are a premenopausal woman, you cannot say what works for you will work for her.
    Meh. I'm premenopausal and don't have problems with carbs. You can't from your generalize your own experience, either.

    In this case, it looks like there are some logging issues as well as an insufficient calorie deficit, as others have noted. Address the basics first, and worry about the rest only if it's necessary.
  • DebbieLyn63
    DebbieLyn63 Posts: 2,650 Member
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    I'm going to say it again, it has NOTHING TO DO WITH CARBS.

    For YOU it may not. But for some people it DOES. How about let the people who are most like the OP, give her some tips that have worked for THEM. Unless you are a premenopausal woman, you cannot say what works for you will work for her.

    Instead of blaming external sources and believing tabloids, just eat at a deficit. She hasn't expressed any medical issues that would suggest she needs to cut carbs. She's just eating too much.

    I did say that she needed to lower her calories as well. But WHERE should she cut those calories? Protein? Healthy fats? NO, she needs those nutrients more than she needs the extra carbs. She is around 60% carbs right now. If she keeps that percentage and drops her calorie percentage across the board, then she will be lowering her protein and fat numbers even further. a 40/30/30 ratio is a good starting point for her.

    And BTW, I do not read tabloids, nor do I watch Dr Oz. I get my information from my gynecologist- who is highly trained and specializes in WOMEN'S bodies, and also from Diabetes specialists and nutritionist specializing in how the body processes various nutrients.

    And her medical issue that wasn't expressed, is that she is a 48 yr old female. Unless you have done extensive research on the female body and how hormones affect it as we age, then please quit strutting your tail feathers and give up your incessant need to be right in every thread.
  • serindipte
    serindipte Posts: 1,557 Member
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    I did say that she needed to lower her calories as well. But WHERE should she cut those calories? Protein? Healthy fats? NO, she needs those nutrients more than she needs the extra carbs. She is around 60% carbs right now. If she keeps that percentage and drops her calorie percentage across the board, then she will be lowering her protein and fat numbers even further. a 40/30/30 ratio is a good starting point for her.

    Easy people, she isn't recommending a "low carb" diet. She's just pointing out that the woman is ODing on carbs. 40/30/30 is a good starting point for anyone. She will be better able to maintain a healthy calorie intake if she will shift her percentages nearer to that than the 60% carbs that are leaving her hungry for more and potentially causing her to overeat.
  • astrampe
    astrampe Posts: 2,169 Member
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    I'm going to say it again, it has NOTHING TO DO WITH CARBS.

    For YOU it may not. But for some people it DOES. How about let the people who are most like the OP, give her some tips that have worked for THEM. Unless you are a pre-menopausal woman, you cannot say what works for you will work for her.

    This x2
    Some people just know it all.....

    OP - I am a couple of years younger than you - pre menopousal and the only symptom that bugs me is the seemingly inability to lose fat..... I am 5'8 and 176 - and found my "happy place" at around 1600-1650 during the week, and a little more on weekends..I walk at least 4km every weekday (during lunch) and do either weights or P90x3 4-5 times a week....
    For me carbs definitely makes a difference - it works if I keep my macros at 40% protein, 30% carbs and 30% fat.....
    Drop your calories with 100 a day for a couple of weeks and up your protein - mine is around 150g protein and 120g carbs with 50g fat during the week.....
    Good luck!
  • astrampe
    astrampe Posts: 2,169 Member
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    I'm going to say it again, it has NOTHING TO DO WITH CARBS.

    For YOU it may not. But for some people it DOES. How about let the people who are most like the OP, give her some tips that have worked for THEM. Unless you are a premenopausal woman, you cannot say what works for you will work for her.

    Instead of blaming external sources and believing tabloids, just eat at a deficit. She hasn't expressed any medical issues that would suggest she needs to cut carbs. She's just eating too much.

    I did say that she needed to lower her calories as well. But WHERE should she cut those calories? Protein? Healthy fats? NO, she needs those nutrients more than she needs the extra carbs. She is around 60% carbs right now. If she keeps that percentage and drops her calorie percentage across the board, then she will be lowering her protein and fat numbers even further. a 40/30/30 ratio is a good starting point for her.

    And BTW, I do not read tabloids, nor do I watch Dr Oz. I get my information from my gynecologist- who is highly trained and specializes in WOMEN'S bodies, and also from Diabetes specialists and nutritionist specializing in how the body processes various nutrients.

    And her medical issue that wasn't expressed, is that she is a 48 yr old female. Unless you have done extensive research on the female body and how hormones affect it as we age, then please quit strutting your tail feathers and give up your incessant need to be right in every thread.

    When I want to gain, I increase all my calories, not just carbs. When I want to lose, I drop all my calories, not just carbs. It works. Try it sometime rather than whining about external sources and believe crap you read in the tabloids. Which, despite your denial, you do, or you wouldn't be saying the things you say.

    I don't need to know about females vs males. Humans are the same. That's why medicine and science work. You're not different.

    You just proved your ignorance with "I don't need to know about females and males - Humans are the same' LOL..... Obviously you don't understand "science"
  • kimberlycarlile
    kimberlycarlile Posts: 7 Member
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    What's the best way to get more protein? I thought I would be doing great amping up fruits and vegetables, but guess what? They're all carbs!! I can add an egg a day. I have a friend who dumps a can of tuna on her salad--I could try doing that.

    What are some of your favorite protein boosts?
  • castlerobber
    castlerobber Posts: 528 Member
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    I'm 48, female. Need to lose 20-30 lbs.

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    I've faced my fears and opened my food diary to you all because I am desperate. You will see that, while I love chocolate, I am counting it carefully, and I am also eating lots of kale, spinach, sprouts, brown rice, unsweetened almond milk, beets, squash, yogurt, and other healthy foods. I drink only water and herbal tea sweetened w Stevia. There ARE one or two bad days in there (one day, I ate 7.5 chocolate chip cookies), and there are one or two days I didn't record, but the VAST MAJORITY of the days, I am recording fastidiously and staying in the calorie goal. I'm not cheating on my recording, because what would be the point of that.

    I've always said, I don't want to do a diet I can't sustain, so I have thus far refused to banish any specific food stuff. In other words, I've said I can eat anything (white flour, potatoes, dairy, sugar) as long as I fit it into my calorie budget. I can sustain that sort of regime for the rest of my life.

    BUT I'M BEGINNING TO THINK THAT DOESN'T WORK FOR EVERYBODY. And it's stopped working for me.

    It is indeed brave to open a diary around here.

    You and I have a bit in common as far as age. I, too, used to be able to eat pretty much anything I wanted and still lose weight in my younger days, as long as I exercised and kept calories around 1,500. Not happening any more--the older I get, the fewer carbs I can tolerate. There's a history of type 2 diabetes on my father's side of the family, so I suspect it's related.

    Your food list looks pretty good with all the veggies. However, I see a lot of floury starches--biscuits, bagels, cookies, crackers--and sugar. Some days, you have around 100g (400 calories) of sugar, mostly from sweet treats. There are also days you aren't getting anywhere near your protein target.

    You might try cutting back on the sweets and starches, and adding protein (meat, fish, fowl, eggs, cheese) and fat (butter, olive oil, coconut oil) to replace the calories. One serving of bread a day, not three or four. Two cookies OR a candy bar, not both. Experiment a bit to see what works for you.
  • MarthaE59
    MarthaE59 Posts: 9 Member
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    Hi Kimberly, I totally agree with your philosophy! No diet, regular foods, and logging to make sure most days we are within range. So far - 80 lbs. gone. I am struggling a little now but I don't think it has anything to do with the philosophy but going over a bit too much. There are 3500 calories in a lb regardless of what they are for. It takes 3500 calories less of (whatever) to see a lb gone. While I do agree fruits and veges are very important, even too many of those will result in no weight loss. I would love to be your friend since we seem to have like minds where food is concerned. Best of luck to you!