Duke Freshman outs herself

rml_16

I agree that she is an adult and can earn her money whatever legal way she wants, however, she is still representing the university. I understand that as adults, we should be allowed to legally do what we want with our lives, but when you are doing something on the side that could have a negative impact on your school or regular place of business, then it's time to get your priorities in line. Does she want to be a porn star? Great more power to her! Does she want a desk job after college? That's fine too, but she needs to decide what she wants more.

She pays the school. The school does not pay her. She isn't representing the school. She's doing a job to pay for school.

I think if you are starring in pornography, something went wrong in your life somewhere and it's sad. But if it's what she's chosen, it's her business. Condemning her won't help her in any way.

It couldn't possibly be because someone likes sex and it's good money?

You're right. Having sex with multiple strangers in front of other multiple strangers behind cameras who are going to put that out there for the entire world to see is something emotionally healthy people do because they like sex and money.

You're confusing your issues with theirs.

Right. That's why drug abuse is so rampant in that community. Because they're happy.

OK then.

HawkeyeTy

I agree that she is an adult and can earn her money whatever legal way she wants, however, she is still representing the university. I understand that as adults, we should be allowed to legally do what we want with our lives, but when you are doing something on the side that could have a negative impact on your school or regular place of business, then it's time to get your priorities in line. Does she want to be a porn star? Great more power to her! Does she want a desk job after college? That's fine too, but she needs to decide what she wants more.

She pays the school. The school does not pay her. She isn't representing the school. She's doing a job to pay for school.

I think if you are starring in pornography, something went wrong in your life somewhere and it's sad. But if it's what she's chosen, it's her business. Condemning her won't help her in any way.

It couldn't possibly be because someone likes sex and it's good money?

You're right. Having sex with multiple strangers in front of other multiple strangers behind cameras who are going to put that out there for the entire world to see is something emotionally healthy people do because they like sex and money.

Wow

HawkeyeTy

I agree that she is an adult and can earn her money whatever legal way she wants, however, she is still representing the university. I understand that as adults, we should be allowed to legally do what we want with our lives, but when you are doing something on the side that could have a negative impact on your school or regular place of business, then it's time to get your priorities in line. Does she want to be a porn star? Great more power to her! Does she want a desk job after college? That's fine too, but she needs to decide what she wants more.

She pays the school. The school does not pay her. She isn't representing the school. She's doing a job to pay for school.

I think if you are starring in pornography, something went wrong in your life somewhere and it's sad. But if it's what she's chosen, it's her business. Condemning her won't help her in any way.

It couldn't possibly be because someone likes sex and it's good money?

You're right. Having sex with multiple strangers in front of other multiple strangers behind cameras who are going to put that out there for the entire world to see is something emotionally healthy people do because they like sex and money.

You're confusing your issues with theirs.

Right. That's why drug abuse is so rampant in that community. Because they're happy.

OK then.

There is drug abuse in any community. I dont get your point here

Expect_The_Worst

I agree that she is an adult and can earn her money whatever legal way she wants, however, she is still representing the university. I understand that as adults, we should be allowed to legally do what we want with our lives, but when you are doing something on the side that could have a negative impact on your school or regular place of business, then it's time to get your priorities in line. Does she want to be a porn star? Great more power to her! Does she want a desk job after college? That's fine too, but she needs to decide what she wants more.

She pays the school. The school does not pay her. She isn't representing the school. She's doing a job to pay for school.

I think if you are starring in pornography, something went wrong in your life somewhere and it's sad. But if it's what she's chosen, it's her business. Condemning her won't help her in any way.

It couldn't possibly be because someone likes sex and it's good money?

You're right. Having sex with multiple strangers in front of other multiple strangers behind cameras who are going to put that out there for the entire world to see is something emotionally healthy people do because they like sex and money.

You're confusing your issues with theirs.

Right. That's why drug abuse is so rampant in that community. Because they're happy.

OK then.

You sure seem to know an awful lot about the porn industry. Just Saiyan

Expect_The_Worst

I agree that she is an adult and can earn her money whatever legal way she wants, however, she is still representing the university. I understand that as adults, we should be allowed to legally do what we want with our lives, but when you are doing something on the side that could have a negative impact on your school or regular place of business, then it's time to get your priorities in line. Does she want to be a porn star? Great more power to her! Does she want a desk job after college? That's fine too, but she needs to decide what she wants more.

She pays the school. The school does not pay her. She isn't representing the school. She's doing a job to pay for school.

I think if you are starring in pornography, something went wrong in your life somewhere and it's sad. But if it's what she's chosen, it's her business. Condemning her won't help her in any way.

It couldn't possibly be because someone likes sex and it's good money?

You're right. Having sex with multiple strangers in front of other multiple strangers behind cameras who are going to put that out there for the entire world to see is something emotionally healthy people do because they like sex and money.

You're confusing your issues with theirs.

Right. That's why drug abuse is so rampant in that community. Because they're happy.

OK then.

There is drug abuse in any community. I dont get your point here

I was thinking this as well, but then thought maybe that the person is some sort of an expert on what happens in the industry.

amwoidyla

I firmly believe that 17, 18, and 19 year olds don't understand how their actions now will affect them later in life.

Things I didn't understand the consequences of at 17-19:
-The expense of private college education (mine was much cheaper than Duke)
-How stretching my lobes to 5/8 inch wasn't a good idea long term

This girl, while she being proactive and working to pay for her schooling, I truly don't think understands the implications of working in the sex industry and her story becoming so highly publicized. She WILL have problems finding work after getting her degree, unless she works in the sex industry in some capacity. In one article I read, she stated that she doesn't want to work for a company who has issues with sex workers. As a society, we are highly sexualized, but not at all sex positive and it's not going to change before she gets her degree.

FemmeFatale83

I agree that she is an adult and can earn her money whatever legal way she wants, however, she is still representing the university. I understand that as adults, we should be allowed to legally do what we want with our lives, but when you are doing something on the side that could have a negative impact on your school or regular place of business, then it's time to get your priorities in line. Does she want to be a porn star? Great more power to her! Does she want a desk job after college? That's fine too, but she needs to decide what she wants more.

She pays the school. The school does not pay her. She isn't representing the school. She's doing a job to pay for school.

I think if you are starring in pornography, something went wrong in your life somewhere and it's sad. But if it's what she's chosen, it's her business. Condemning her won't help her in any way.

It couldn't possibly be because someone likes sex and it's good money?

You're right. Having sex with multiple strangers in front of other multiple strangers behind cameras who are going to put that out there for the entire world to see is something emotionally healthy people do because they like sex and money.

You're confusing your issues with theirs.

Right. That's why drug abuse is so rampant in that community. Because they're happy.

OK then.

There may be a correlation between drug abuse and the porn industry to whatever degree, but that's not cause and effect. Drugs are not rampant simply because people (namely women)are working for the porn industry.

Monkey_Business

I'd beg, borrow, and steal before I'd let my daughter do porn to pay for college.

What if she wanted to do it?

I'd hope that I raised a daughter that didn't want to do that for a living. I don't have any moral issues with porn, or the people that perform. But it's a really seedy world, lots of drugs, self-esteem issues, and just not something I want my kids doing, even if they think they are cool with it at the time.

I am with you 100% Summer. The problem is when they are this age, they do not fully think things through before making life decisions......So we do our best to raise them and hopefully we can guide them.

mank32

within certain parameters I believe are ok

amateur cam? like a million college girls are already doing?

any joe or jane with a webcam can be a pornstar. and they don't have to have drug or daddy issues.

ed for spelling (actually 'webcame' is kinda funny, maybe a verb?)

WeepingAngel81

I agree that she is an adult and can earn her money whatever legal way she wants, however, she is still representing the university. I understand that as adults, we should be allowed to legally do what we want with our lives, but when you are doing something on the side that could have a negative impact on your school or regular place of business, then it's time to get your priorities in line. Does she want to be a porn star? Great more power to her! Does she want a desk job after college? That's fine too, but she needs to decide what she wants more.

She pays the school. The school does not pay her. She isn't representing the school. She's doing a job to pay for school.

I think if you are starring in pornography, something went wrong in your life somewhere and it's sad. But if it's what she's chosen, it's her business. Condemning her won't help her in any way.

It shouldn't be seen as her representing the school, but right or wrong, she is. If she is walking around wearing the Duke brand, she chose to be part of that student body, therefore she represents the student body. I'm not saying this is the way it supposed to be, but it is what it is. Universities are shady and if they feel that anything will have a negative impact on them, they won't hesitate to throw her under the bus. Again, this is not right. It's not ok, but it happens. Pornography happens all the time on college campuses....girls gone wild, cameras in the dorm rooms, photos going around facebook. Is it right that she is going to be the center of what is already happening? No, it doesn't make it right at all. She publicly outed herself, then she should hold her head high and not be ashamed of the decisions she has made. I don't believe for a second that Duke would support her if given the choice, and to me that is pretty sad considering she is paying them.

PennyM140

I say good for her for going to college and for PAYING for college. What she is doing is legal and it's her choice. That really shouldn't offend anyone.

JoRocka

Wow this forum took a turn the wrong way. Why are we debating the morality of pornography?

Here's the facts:
-There is nothing (from publicly available information I found) that would say her actions in any way jeopardize her ability to PAY to attend school at Duke. None.
-She has a job. A LEGAL job. She is 18+ years old, and she is a part of a legal industry making legal money. This is literally no different than if she worked as a waitress at a high-end restaurant and made crazy cash off of it. NO DIFFERENCE.
-She is PAYING to go to school there. She is not a representative of Duke University, because she is not staff or adjunct faculty in any capacity. College kids do things every minute that are more damaging/embarassing to a University than legitimately performing pornography.
-She will get more opportunities to make LARGE AMOUNTS of cash in porn BECAUSE she is now "the Duke girl". It won't last forever, but her 15 minutes of fame in the porn industry will be lucrative, and she will easily be able to pay for her education from it.

It doesn't matter what she's majoring in. She is not our child. She is legit, and she's doing it her way. Whether or not you agree philosophically with "her way" is a moot point.

NON STORY.

nailed it.

WeepingAngel81

It shouldn't be seen as her representing the school, but right or wrong, she is. If she is walking around wearing the Duke brand, she chose to be part of that student body, therefore she represents the student body. I'm not saying this is the way it supposed to be, but it is what it is. Universities are shady and if they feel that anything will have a negative impact on them, they won't hesitate to throw her under the bus. Again, this is not right. It's not ok, but it happens. Pornography happens all the time on college campuses....girls gone wild, cameras in the dorm rooms, photos going around facebook. Is it right that she is going to be the center of what is already happening? No, it doesn't make it right at all. She publicly outed herself, then she should hold her head high and not be ashamed of the decisions she has made. I don't believe for a second that Duke would support her if given the choice, and to me that is pretty sad considering she is paying them.

If universities want to kick students out for not representing them well, basically some morality clause, they're going to be VERY busy.

Y'all remember your time in college? How much of that do you think you were being a wholesome representative of your school?

I know I spent A LOT of my time at college as a drunk, drug abusing, sex fiend. You know, college.

So when colleges start kicking out kids for their behavior, thereby reducing their enrollment by huge numbers, I'll believe they actually mean what they say.

I agree with you...but they pick and they choose when they want to. It's not right. I already mentioned earlier that I got kicked off campus because I was a DD. the other people at that party who destroyed property and got drunk all night didn't so much as have their wrists slapped. There were football players, basketball players, there were regular joes, there were students who worked on campus. There was a large mix of people there, but because I didn't give names of people at the party, I was kicked off campus. I was able to still attend class, but I couldn't live in the dorms.

What I am trying to say is that it should not be, that she is seen as representing the college. Sadly though, that is how it will be seen. There will be some jack-hole out there who will say "my child won't go there if a porn star is going there" without even considering that fact that their precious angel could very well end up in the act themselves. It's crap, and it's not right that it happens, but it does.

suremeansyes

LOL..."I wouldn't LET my kid...(insert whatever thing you don't like here)"

I did, and do, a lot of stuff my mom wouldn't "let" me do. And I'm sure my daughter has done, and will do, a lot of stuff I wouldn't "let" her do. I tell her what things I feel she shouldn't do at her age; however, if she does those things, coming clean and asking for help is better than trying to suffer through consequences alone. Even if I may be disappointed by what she has done.

RockWarrior84

I knew a lot of girls who stripped for money for college, this is taking it to a whole new level.

Not sure what I think about it. People do what they have to and we do not know her family conditions, if they could have helped in any way to pay for college or help out.

fitfreakymom

I agree that she is an adult and can earn her money whatever legal way she wants, however, she is still representing the university. I understand that as adults, we should be allowed to legally do what we want with our lives, but when you are doing something on the side that could have a negative impact on your school or regular place of business, then it's time to get your priorities in line. Does she want to be a porn star? Great more power to her! Does she want a desk job after college? That's fine too, but she needs to decide what she wants more.

She pays the school. The school does not pay her. She isn't representing the school. She's doing a job to pay for school.

I think if you are starring in pornography, something went wrong in your life somewhere and it's sad. But if it's what she's chosen, it's her business. Condemning her won't help her in any way.

It couldn't possibly be because someone likes sex and it's good money?

You're right. Having sex with multiple strangers in front of other multiple strangers behind cameras who are going to put that out there for the entire world to see is something emotionally healthy people do because they like sex and money.

You're confusing your issues with theirs.

Right. That's why drug abuse is so rampant in that community. Because they're happy.

OK then.

drug use is rampant in the music industry and arts to, does that mean they are all unhappy to?

ninerbuff

I agree that she is an adult and can earn her money whatever legal way she wants, however, she is still representing the university. I understand that as adults, we should be allowed to legally do what we want with our lives, but when you are doing something on the side that could have a negative impact on your school or regular place of business, then it's time to get your priorities in line. Does she want to be a porn star? Great more power to her! Does she want a desk job after college? That's fine too, but she needs to decide what she wants more.

Lol, you do realize that there are many NFL stars who are "thugs" that went to Universities and are praised as heroes for their schools?

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Of course I realize that. I don't think that's right either. As to the question of "why" it affects the reputation of the school, it's because people are so afraid of being judged instead of letting people live their lives. If, for example, Duke were to lose any funding because she's a porn star, my guess is they will kick her to the curb and follow the money. There is no clear right or wrong answer here. It's unfortunate that people can't legally live their lives as they wish without compromise, but it happens. Since it happens, there are personal decisions she will have to make.

Agree. If they do kick her out (I'm sure they'll find a technicality) you'd have to think how naive the university, supporters and alumni are if they think that paid porn would discredit university. Practically all colleges have some online porn sites depicting their students in their colleges who aren't getting paid. You see university banners hanging in the background. I hope she gets to stay and continue whatever classes she's taking and paying for.

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You've watched a lot of college porn, have you?

Nah, I'm more into vintage porn cause it's way funnier to watch.

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