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  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
    I usually discount unsolicited advice. It may be 100% spot on, but when I didn't ask for it I'm not in the right frame of mind to receive it.
    "If someone informs you that you're driving with your lights off at night, would you discount it because you weren't expecting their advice?"


    Hmmm, nice try, but that analogy isn't even close in this case. If someone is telling me what I should be doing with my body and I didn't ask them for their opinion, I'm not going take it too seriously. Even if they may be spot on.

    Sounds close to me.

    So if someone says you're going to tear your back up doing squats incorrectly, you're going to ignore it because you didn't ask. And you wouldn't ask, because you don't know that your form is off.
  • Amelia7779
    Amelia7779 Posts: 53 Member
    I have a MS in Nutrition and I am an RD, but I've still had trouble with baby weight. Doesn't make me question my nutrition knowledge :)
  • ATGsquats
    ATGsquats Posts: 227 Member
    More than half trainers at my gym are out of shape, but it's unfair to say they lack knowledge in their field because of it. With that said, personally, I think you should look the part before giving such advice if you want people to take you serious. Just listen to what he/she has to say, try it out, if it doesn't work out then move on.
  • raindawg
    raindawg Posts: 348 Member
    I usually discount unsolicited advice. It may be 100% spot on, but when I didn't ask for it I'm not in the right frame of mind to receive it.
    "If someone informs you that you're driving with your lights off at night, would you discount it because you weren't expecting their advice?"


    Hmmm, nice try, but that analogy isn't even close in this case. If someone is telling me what I should be doing with my body and I didn't ask them for their opinion, I'm not going take it too seriously. Even if they may be spot on.

    Sounds close to me.

    So if someone says you're going to tear your back up doing squats incorrectly, you're going to ignore it because you didn't ask. And you wouldn't ask, because you don't know that your form is off.

    Again, off base with your analogy. You keep bringing up tangible visible items when his example is an intangible. He's talking about diet advice from an overweight person when he may not have even been asking for it. Completely different than wrong form in a squat or I left my lights off.
  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
    I usually discount unsolicited advice. It may be 100% spot on, but when I didn't ask for it I'm not in the right frame of mind to receive it.
    "If someone informs you that you're driving with your lights off at night, would you discount it because you weren't expecting their advice?"


    Hmmm, nice try, but that analogy isn't even close in this case. If someone is telling me what I should be doing with my body and I didn't ask them for their opinion, I'm not going take it too seriously. Even if they may be spot on.

    Sounds close to me.

    So if someone says you're going to tear your back up doing squats incorrectly, you're going to ignore it because you didn't ask. And you wouldn't ask, because you don't know that your form is off.

    Again, off base with your analogy. You keep bringing up tangible visible items when his example is an intangible. He's talking about diet advice from an overweight person when he may not have even been asking for it. Completely different than wrong form in a squat or I left my lights off.

    Oh, it's tangible advice now? You said that you ignore unsolicited advice. Well, I guess if you're going to keep changing the rules of the game you're gonna win the game.
  • raindawg
    raindawg Posts: 348 Member
    I usually discount unsolicited advice. It may be 100% spot on, but when I didn't ask for it I'm not in the right frame of mind to receive it.
    "If someone informs you that you're driving with your lights off at night, would you discount it because you weren't expecting their advice?"


    Hmmm, nice try, but that analogy isn't even close in this case. If someone is telling me what I should be doing with my body and I didn't ask them for their opinion, I'm not going take it too seriously. Even if they may be spot on.

    Sounds close to me.

    So if someone says you're going to tear your back up doing squats incorrectly, you're going to ignore it because you didn't ask. And you wouldn't ask, because you don't know that your form is off.

    Again, off base with your analogy. You keep bringing up tangible visible items when his example is an intangible. He's talking about diet advice from an overweight person when he may not have even been asking for it. Completely different than wrong form in a squat or I left my lights off.

    Oh, it's tangible advice now? You said that you ignore unsolicited advice. Well, I guess if you're going to keep changing the rules of the game you're gonna win the game.

    Wow, I can tell Sundays are a little difficult for you. First off you cherry picked my quote grabbing just a piece of it when the whole thing is the context and you run off on this tangent. If you are going to grab my quote, grab the whole thing next time, then maybe you'll understand the "rules of the game". Let me put it a way maybe you can understand. I asked the poster if it was solicited or not. In the context of "his" question If I wasn't asking for diet advice and someone just gave it to me, I wouldn't take it seriously because I wouldn't be in the right frame of mind. If you can't follow that distinction, there's nothing I can do for you.
  • astronomicals
    astronomicals Posts: 1,537 Member
    I dunno why you're all busting his balls. You've never asked for a spot and got unsolicited advice that you weren't interested in hearing? Most of the unsolicited advice I receive is garbage, so, you're probably better off ignoring everything anyone tells you at the gym and just picking up some good books that are written by credible professionals (even the books are questionable). Who are you to judge the credibility of the advice? Diet and training myths are perpetuated by that kind of blind obedience.

    He also said "usually". Im not picking sides, I'm just saying I've been told plenty of dumb ish at the gym.

    Just sayin.

    ETA:

    As far as "frame of mind", its congruent with "mind ya own". Nobody (almost) likes back seat drivers or people telling you how to raise your kids or how to do your job. I have a friend who is bigger than me thus he discredits anything I have to say about training. In his mind the latest article of mens health or BB.com is more accurate than the thousands of pages I've read.
  • sloth3toes
    sloth3toes Posts: 2,212 Member
    I have a MS in Nutrition and I am an RD, but I've still had trouble with baby weight. Doesn't make me question my nutrition knowledge :)

    Many high level coaches are totally out of shape. Some have never played at the highest levels of the sport. Same with PE teachers... many aren't very fit.... but that doesn't mean they can't TEACH.

    That said... it's an image / marketing thing. It's probably harder for unfit trainers to get business. But, once they have a client, if the client is happy, and getting results.... then, who cares what kind of shape the trainer is in. That's his / her problem. :wink:
  • mrhonesty
    mrhonesty Posts: 274 Member
    I had a session with a personal trainer a few months ago. He wasn't exactly skinny but the guy certainly knew his stuff and he really helped me out.

    Would you not eat a dessert a skinny chef made?

    For the record, I do want my Chef fat and my musicians ugly. I can relate to them easier! :)

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