Ack! Better work that off!

MamaRiss

So I made some "pizza bread" today, which is one of my favorites. Then I created the recipe using the handy dandy little tool on here.

CRAP! Even with the 3 miles of walking I did this morning I was over my fat allotment for the day. I'm so ready to not be fat; so as much as I hate it, another 30 minutes of areobics and 10 for calisthenics this afternoon

So note to self. no more pizza bread!

Helloitsdan

Physiology fail.
Until you understand that you cannot outperform your nutrition, you'll not succeed.
IMO you should pop out 100 pushups, body squats and knee tucks, within any time prior to bed to deplete glycogen in the muscle for that tasty treat to fill later.

MamaRiss

Thanks for the tip! I'm still new to this so I'm happy to see better tips than " Just work it off"

Cranquistador

Physiology fail.
Until you understand that you cannot outperform your nutrition, you'll not succeed.
IMO you should pop out 100 pushups, body squats and knee tucks, within any time prior to bed to deplete glycogen in the muscle for that tasty treat to fill later.

Huh?

OP would you open your diary?...perhaps you are being too hard on yourself. No reason you cant enjoy some pizza bread.

SuperCrsa

Notice you say over your fats for the day,
So you still under your calorie goals with that delicious pizza?

MamaRiss

Ok , I think I have it opened up now, but I havn't actually eaten dinner yet, just have it planned out

MamaRiss

Notice you say over your fats for the day,
So you still under your calorie goals with that delicious pizza?

Yes, I would still be under my calorie goal, just over my fat without the extra exercise

Cranquistador

Ok , I think I have it opened up now, but I havn't actually eaten dinner yet, just have it planned out

you are completely fine having fat go over a bit. You dont have to have perfect macros...i would, however, consider changing your protein goal to be a little higher.

do NOT stress over those few grams of fat. seriously.

:flowerforyou:

Achrya

Notice you say over your fats for the day,
So you still under your calorie goals with that delicious pizza?

Yes, I would still be under my calorie goal, just over my fat without the extra exercise

So? I'm over my fat 5 days a week, it's nbd

sjohnny

Ok , I think I have it opened up now, but I havn't actually eaten dinner yet, just have it planned out

you are completely fine having fat go over a bit. You dont have to have perfect macros...i would, however, consider changing your protein goal to be a little higher.

do NOT stress over those few grams of fat. seriously.

:flowerforyou:

This. Fat doesn't make you fat. Excess calories do.

sjohnny

Physiology fail.
Until you understand that you cannot outperform your nutrition, you'll not succeed.
IMO you should pop out 100 pushups, body squats and knee tucks, within any time prior to bed to deplete glycogen in the muscle for that tasty treat to fill later.

Did you just grab a box of words and dump them on the screen?

randomtai

Notice you say over your fats for the day,
So you still under your calorie goals with that delicious pizza?

Yes, I would still be under my calorie goal, just over my fat without the extra exercise

So? I'm over my fat 5 days a week, it's nbd

This... I don't think there has been a day where i don't go over my fat macros.

MamaRiss

Thanks. How do I go about changing my macros? I just have it basically on default for a 1 lb per week loss

randomtai

Physiology fail.
Until you understand that you cannot outperform your nutrition, you'll not succeed.
IMO you should pop out 100 pushups, body squats and knee tucks, within any time prior to bed to deplete glycogen in the muscle for that tasty treat to fill later.

Did you just grab a box of words and dump them on the screen?

BWAHAHAHA! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

ILiftHeavyAcrylics

Your calories are too low. Don't worry so much about going over on fat, MFP has their fat goal set low. But you should be aiming to hit your calorie goal, not come in significantly under it.

I also wonder about your logging though-- butter toast, 2 oz for 28 calories? That doesn't seem right. Unless I'm not understanding what it is. Toast (just the bread) runs me 70 calories per slice, so 140 for two pieces.

MamaRiss

Thanks for making feel a bit better everyone. I'm trying to not be too hard on myself in the beginning of this journey. It helps to see that people who have gone a lot farther also go over sometimes

ILiftHeavyAcrylics

Thanks. How do I go about changing my macros? I just have it basically on default for a 1 lb per week loss

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/819055-setting-your-calorie-and-macro-targets

Go into goals and hit manual. Then adjust.

gypsy_spirit

Physiology fail.
Until you understand that you cannot outperform your nutrition, you'll not succeed.
IMO you should pop out 100 pushups, body squats and knee tucks, within any time prior to bed to deplete glycogen in the muscle for that tasty treat to fill later.

Did you just grab a box of words and dump them on the screen?

:laugh:

Achrya

Your calories are too low. Don't worry so much about going over on fat, MFP has their fat goal set low. But you should be aiming to hit your calorie goal, not come in significantly under it.

I also wonder about your logging though-- butter toast, 2 oz for 28 calories? That doesn't seem right. Unless I'm not understanding what it is. Toast (just the bread) runs me 70 calories per slice, so 140 for two pieces.

...huh.

Huh. :ohwell: :huh:

Cranquistador

Thanks. How do I go about changing my macros? I just have it basically on default for a 1 lb per week loss

GOALS> CHANGE GOALS > custom... then change the percentages.

I do 40% carb/ 30% fat/ 30% protein

you can do whatever you like.

MamaRiss

Your calories are too low. Don't worry so much about going over on fat, MFP has their fat goal set low. But you should be aiming to hit your calorie goal, not come in significantly under it.

I also wonder about your logging though-- butter toast, 2 oz for 28 calories? That doesn't seem right. Unless I'm not understanding what it is. Toast (just the bread) runs me 70 calories per slice, so 140 for two pieces.

I started out using the basic one serving is two slices, which they had set at 8 oz. When I weighed mine, it only came in at 2 oz for BOTH pieces, then I go in and add in extra butter, usually about 20 grams total ( I do see that I logged that one wrong today)

I am really low on my calories today, I just did not feel like eating a lot this morning, so I pretty much was forcing the eggs down, and ended up feeding some to my son. I've got 4 hours until I actually have dinner, so I'll try to figure out something by then to get me closer to my goal
'

MamaRiss

Thanks. How do I go about changing my macros? I just have it basically on default for a 1 lb per week loss

GOALS> CHANGE GOALS > custom... then change the percentages.

I do 40% carb/ 30% fat/ 30% protein

you can do whatever you like.

Thanks

ILiftHeavyAcrylics

Your calories are too low. Don't worry so much about going over on fat, MFP has their fat goal set low. But you should be aiming to hit your calorie goal, not come in significantly under it.

I also wonder about your logging though-- butter toast, 2 oz for 28 calories? That doesn't seem right. Unless I'm not understanding what it is. Toast (just the bread) runs me 70 calories per slice, so 140 for two pieces.

I started out using the basic one serving is two slices, which they had set at 8 oz. When I weighed mine, it only came in at 2 oz for BOTH pieces, then I go in and add in extra butter, usually about 20 grams total ( I do see that I logged that one wrong today)

I am really low on my calories today, I just did not feel like eating a lot this morning, so I pretty much was forcing the eggs down, and ended up feeding some to my son. I've got 4 hours until I actually have dinner, so I'll try to figure out something by then to get me closer to my goal
'

Then the entry you're using is incorrect. Are you using store bought bread? Mine is Nature's Own Honey Wheat. So I search for that, and then double check the entry against the package.

Since the database is user-entered there are lots of inaccurate entries. You've got to be careful. If you're using bakery bread that doesn't have a nutrition label then search for "french bread" or "italian bread" or whatever kind it is, and then pick the entry that doesn't have an asterisk. That's the USDA entry and it's the most accurate. It should have several serving options, including one for weight. Usually bread is around 70 calories per ounce.

MamaRiss

Your calories are too low. Don't worry so much about going over on fat, MFP has their fat goal set low. But you should be aiming to hit your calorie goal, not come in significantly under it.

I also wonder about your logging though-- butter toast, 2 oz for 28 calories? That doesn't seem right. Unless I'm not understanding what it is. Toast (just the bread) runs me 70 calories per slice, so 140 for two pieces.

I started out using the basic one serving is two slices, which they had set at 8 oz. When I weighed mine, it only came in at 2 oz for BOTH pieces, then I go in and add in extra butter, usually about 20 grams total ( I do see that I logged that one wrong today)

I am really low on my calories today, I just did not feel like eating a lot this morning, so I pretty much was forcing the eggs down, and ended up feeding some to my son. I've got 4 hours until I actually have dinner, so I'll try to figure out something by then to get me closer to my goal
'

Then the entry you're using is incorrect. Are you using store bought bread? Mine is Nature's Own Honey Wheat. So I search for that, and then double check the entry against the package.

Since the database is user-entered there are lots of inaccurate entries. You've got to be careful. If you're using bakery bread that doesn't have a nutrition label then search for "french bread" or "italian bread" or whatever kind it is, and then pick the entry that doesn't have an asterisk. That's the USDA entry and it's the most accurate. It should have several serving options, including one for weight. Usually bread is around 70 calories per ounce.

I'll look around a bit more then. I'm using bakery sandwich bread. I did not know what the asterisks meant, so I will definitely look for a USDA entry

LKArgh

1) Some things in your diary seem to be underestimating calories, I agree with another poster
2) Losing weight means less calories, not less fat, what you eat will not affect your weight loss, as long as the calories in are lower than calories you burn
3) A diet hight in fat and especially animal fat (and for me personally what you eat is high in fat although I am sure others will disagree) will affect your health on the long run, no matter if you are thin or not, in shape or not. And exercising will not change this.

FitMama2013

thinking of food in terms of how long you will have to exercise to burn it off is indicative of a bad relationship with food. you should enjoy a moderate portion of pizza bread on occasion and NOT think twice about exercise. food is not the enemy! just don't have a half gallon of ice cream for dessert after your pizza bread and you're still good to go.

it's one thing to make sure you get your exercise in most days of the week so you have more calories to eat throughout the day; it's another thing to try to exercise off calories when you have gone over your calorie goal (or in this case, your macro goal). for what it's worth, my macros are set to 45% fat and that works great for my body. you just have to find what works well for you.

randomtai

3) A diet hight in fat and especially animal fat (and for me personally what you eat is high in fat although I am sure others will disagree) will affect your health on the long run, no matter if you are thin or not, in shape or not. And exercising will not change this.

Wrong.

jayb0ne

In my opinion, the hierarchy of needs in terms of nutrition are as follows:

Calories in vs calories out - or 'are you eating less than you're expending?'
If it fits your macros - or 'is your Protein/Fat/Carbs split on point?'
Sweat the small stuff - or 'Vitamins and minerals = micronutrients'

My advice is not to think about the next one down in the pyramid until you've got the one above it sorted out.

No point having a perfect macro split but going 1000 calories over or under your target.

No point meeting your RDA of all the vitamins if you're getting 60% daily fat.

Once you can meet your calorie goal within 100 calories consistently every day, then start thinking about which foods you can switch out to lower your fat or increase your protein etc without upsetting the daily calorie goal. Once you've got your daily calorie goal almost exactly within the macro split you're looking for, focus on your vitamin intake, your fibre levels, sodium, etc.

Once you've done that, you've pretty much mastered your nutritional intake - but don't forget, you can always take steps back down the ladder. Fancy some ice cream or pizza bread for a treat and can't fit it in your macros? Can you fit it into your calorie goal? All good!

Jay

sjohnny

In my opinion, the hierarchy of needs in terms of nutrition are as follows:

Calories in vs calories out - or 'are you eating less than you're expending?'
If it fits your macros - or 'is your Protein/Fat/Carbs split on point?'
Sweat the small stuff - or 'Vitamins and minerals = micronutrients'

My advice is not to think about the next one down in the pyramid until you've got the one above it sorted out.

No point having a perfect macro split but going 1000 calories over or under your target.

No point meeting your RDA of all the vitamins if you're getting 60% daily fat.

Once you can meet your calorie goal within 100 calories consistently every day, then start thinking about which foods you can switch out to lower your fat or increase your protein etc without upsetting the daily calorie goal. Once you've got your daily calorie goal almost exactly within the macro split you're looking for, focus on your vitamin intake, your fibre levels, sodium, etc.

Once you've done that, you've pretty much mastered your nutritional intake - but don't forget, you can always take steps back down the ladder. Fancy some ice cream or pizza bread for a treat and can't fit it in your macros? Can you fit it into your calorie goal? All good!

Jay

Nice

MamaRiss

In my opinion, the hierarchy of needs in terms of nutrition are as follows:

Calories in vs calories out - or 'are you eating less than you're expending?'
If it fits your macros - or 'is your Protein/Fat/Carbs split on point?'
Sweat the small stuff - or 'Vitamins and minerals = micronutrients'

My advice is not to think about the next one down in the pyramid until you've got the one above it sorted out.

No point having a perfect macro split but going 1000 calories over or under your target.

No point meeting your RDA of all the vitamins if you're getting 60% daily fat.

Once you can meet your calorie goal within 100 calories consistently every day, then start thinking about which foods you can switch out to lower your fat or increase your protein etc without upsetting the daily calorie goal. Once you've got your daily calorie goal almost exactly within the macro split you're looking for, focus on your vitamin intake, your fibre levels, sodium, etc.

Once you've done that, you've pretty much mastered your nutritional intake - but don't forget, you can always take steps back down the ladder. Fancy some ice cream or pizza bread for a treat and can't fit it in your macros? Can you fit it into your calorie goal? All good!

Jay

Now that makes some sense to me. I've just felt so lost since coming on here, seeing so many different opinions. But this makes it nice and simple. I feel like I keep repeating myself, Thank you for your insight

Holly_Roman_Empire

In my opinion, the hierarchy of needs in terms of nutrition are as follows:

Calories in vs calories out - or 'are you eating less than you're expending?'
If it fits your macros - or 'is your Protein/Fat/Carbs split on point?'
Sweat the small stuff - or 'Vitamins and minerals = micronutrients'

My advice is not to think about the next one down in the pyramid until you've got the one above it sorted out.

No point having a perfect macro split but going 1000 calories over or under your target.

No point meeting your RDA of all the vitamins if you're getting 60% daily fat.

Once you can meet your calorie goal within 100 calories consistently every day, then start thinking about which foods you can switch out to lower your fat or increase your protein etc without upsetting the daily calorie goal. Once you've got your daily calorie goal almost exactly within the macro split you're looking for, focus on your vitamin intake, your fibre levels, sodium, etc.

Once you've done that, you've pretty much mastered your nutritional intake - but don't forget, you can always take steps back down the ladder. Fancy some ice cream or pizza bread for a treat and can't fit it in your macros? Can you fit it into your calorie goal? All good!

Jay

This is exactly how I went about weight loss. No point in overhwelming yourself right from the beginning. Keep it simple.

Edited for redundancy.