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Yes they "say" they are doing everything right and when you look at their diary they aren't weighing everything...and using quick adds and eating over, not choosing the correct entries, over estimating burns and eating them all, not logging for days or on weekends...
it does come down to being accurate and being in a deficet and it is easier to do that when you are 99% sure instead of being 80% sure...
As I said you don't want to use a scale ...don't we really don't care...it's an individaul choice but you will be in the very small minority who feels it isn't a "useful tool"....
What? How can you tell people arent weight from looking at a food diary? Do you secretly stalk them too?
yes I am a diary stalker/creeper amg...
If someone posts on the forums help I am not losing weight the first thing to do is go to their diary...ah hello...if it's open I look...if it's not I ask questions...
You can tell people don't weigh food by the entries like 1/2c of cheese or med banana or homemade chinese food or whatever..
Why do you care?
I dont... really. I am just responding to you. Why do you end everything with something so dismissive like 'I dont care', Why do you care?'
because I am dismissing you and your posts....as silly and just plain ignorant...ignorant meaning lack of knowledge...I can tolerate stupid...that can be helped with education, but the "willful ignorance" you are embracing is beyond contempt...
Thank you for the lesson in life. I am not being ignorant though. I have responded to all of your posts. Explain my lack of knowledge directly or please keep quiet...
Lack of knowledge is visible in your first post...after that it just gets reiterated time and time again...because if you think you can "over estimate" your intake consistently and accurately that is ignorance.
Responding to posts does not show "non-ignorance" it shows you are a right fighter who has to be correct...
Continuing to post about how a scale is not a good tool in weight loss again shows your ignorance in what is and isn't a good tool in weight loss...
and this of coursei say you're completely trolling this thread lol and we're just arguing with you for your entertainment..
bc there's absolutely no way anyone would waste their precious "marathon time" on the boards proving someone can be this dense.
It has been a bit entertaining in fact but now it's just getting old and again we don't care if you choose to use a scale...you will be one of the few who is on that side of the fence...0 -
Or... dont buy a scale, and overestimate. If you can do this, it will work in your favour, because you will be consuming just 100g of chips instead of your recorded 125g, drinking 250ml of juice instead of your recorded 400ml.
Then with the money that you havent wasted on a scale, you can go out and treat yourself afterwards!! Double whammy or what?!!!
A kitchen scale is not just for weight loss. It is a valuable tool for anyone who likes to cook especially baking.0 -
i counted the time it takes to pick a bowl, get your chips, tare it and weigh lol..I'm still trying to figure out how it takes 30 seconds to measure out anything....more like 10.
it takes less but i was trying to prove a point on accuracy to that knuckle head of a troll.0 -
I would take this a step further and say weigh your cooking vessels before and after you put food in them. That way when a recipe serves something other than 2, 4 or 8, you can find the weight of each serving and be more accurate. I suck when trying to estimate thirds or any other "odd" fraction.0
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I bought a simple one for $5 at Walmart. A measuring cup that sits on top of a spring scale... So far best $5 I've spent. Estimating or guessing doesn't give you the accuracy you need when you're managing weight.
Boom. Me too. Works just fine for me right now, but I'm thinking of getting a digital one for baking measurements.
I mentioned in an earlier post that I got the same one too ( the $5 one) and now I'm also thinking of upgrading to a digital one. I got the $5 one as a test drive. :flowerforyou:0 -
i counted the time it takes to pick a bowl, get your chips, tare it and weigh lol..I'm still trying to figure out how it takes 30 seconds to measure out anything....more like 10.
it takes less but i was trying to prove a point on accuracy to that knuckle head of a troll.
I know. I wasn't bashing you or anything.
I guess my point was that it doesn't take any more time to weigh than it does to count out a serving and weighing is more accurate obviously.0 -
I keep forgetting!! I even work at Walmart part time, for crying out loud0
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Check out this video regarding measuring vs. weighing …….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVjWPclrWVY.
ps. The SWAG method does not work for me…Scientific Wild *kitten* Guessing! :drinker:
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Who the hell uses this app without food scale? Its like going to the war without weapons haha!0
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Its on the list right after new workout shoes + insoles.0
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I will never understand why people so often come into threads and start arguing instantly. . .
I weigh a lot of non-cup-measurable foods, like cheese, bread, chips, cereal, etc. It was fortunate that at around the same time I started trying to lose weight, my fiance bought a high-quality digital scale for weighing materials for one of his hobbies (making and molding miniatures). Otherwise I probably would never have a scale because I rebel against weighing and measuring things naturally, but I do that because I realize that I might not lose weight otherwise.
I have always been unusually good at estimating quantities (something I've proven over and over by giving myself what I think is a certain amount of something, then measuring it, and finding that I'm often right) so once I've done this for a while longer I think I'll be able to fairly safely estimate the right amounts of things I'm eating. It takes a lot of practice.0 -
I would take this a step further and say weigh your cooking vessels before and after you put food in them. That way when a recipe serves something other than 2, 4 or 8, you can find the weight of each serving and be more accurate. I suck when trying to estimate thirds or any other "odd" fraction.
Ah! Most excellent idea. I've been annoyed by having to guess at serving numbers when I put in recipes. This is a good solution, although figuring the weight of a serving will still be a bit time-consuming. I guess it's better to spend my time weighing things a few times rather than spending 1/2 hour every night wondering if my serving size was accurate. :frown:0 -
why get a food scale if you don't even know how much or how less to put on the scale? i guess i could do research0
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I don't understand why people even bother counting calories if they don't use a scale. Frankly they'd be better off just trying another diet or eat low carb or something (and avoid sweets or anything high calorie really).. because at least that way they'd be less likely to overeat.
Unless they have eyeballing super powers but I frankly doubt many of us do... because really, with a 500 calorie deficit, it's very easy to eat close to maintenance if you don't weigh your food.0 -
This thread is silly.
Weighing is clearly more accurate .... i dont think anyone can argue it is not with a straight face.
I don't weight everything anymore. I eat a lot of the same snacks, so I eyeball it. I also only have 9 more lbs to lose. If I wasn't losing or it was stalling, I'd start weighing everything again.
But how can you not weigh meats, carbs?0 -
I don't understand why people even bother counting calories if they don't use a scale. Frankly they'd be better off just trying another diet or eat low carb or something (and avoid sweets or anything high calorie really).. because at least that way they'd be less likely to overeat.
Unless they have eyeballing super powers but I frankly doubt many of us do... because really, with a 500 calorie deficit, it's very easy to eat close to maintenance if you don't weigh your food.
I lost 65lbs without using a scale. It was actually pretty easy. Didn't use a scale until I only had 10 to go, and then for a bulking phase. Was actually pretty easy.0 -
why get a food scale if you don't even know how much or how less to put on the scale? i guess i could do research
Say 1 serving size is a 1/2 cup of cottage cheese. You'd measure out a half cup, but use the scale to find out how much it is in grams or ounces because that is far more accurate than a 'cup' measurement. Sometimes a cup can weigh more than the serving size in grams, therefore it's more calories than are printed on the label for 1/2 cup.0 -
I don't understand why people even bother counting calories if they don't use a scale. Frankly they'd be better off just trying another diet or eat low carb or something (and avoid sweets or anything high calorie really).. because at least that way they'd be less likely to overeat.
Unless they have eyeballing super powers but I frankly doubt many of us do... because really, with a 500 calorie deficit, it's very easy to eat close to maintenance if you don't weigh your food.
Sometimes you have to eyeball the amount because weighing is not possible which is one reason to learn what a serving size looks like. We eat out a couple of times a week so weighing those meals would be difficult. There's no reason not to log those calories though.0 -
Who the hell uses this app without food scale? Its like going to the war without weapons haha!
In fairness, not everyone feels the need to weigh their food especially if they are reaching their weight loss goals. I'm personally weighing mine when possible until I reach my goal weight and then will likely weigh sporadically. I do however and have for quite some time (prior to losing weight) weigh ingredients for certain recipes that I want to consistently be the same each time they are made. That won't change. The ones who really need to weigh their foods are those who have reached a plateau or appear to be doing everything right. The reason they are not losing is because there isn't a calorie deficit. They are underestimating the calories consumed and overestimating the calories burned. A food scale will confirm they are underestimating their calories consumed.0 -
I would take this a step further and say weigh your cooking vessels before and after you put food in them. That way when a recipe serves something other than 2, 4 or 8, you can find the weight of each serving and be more accurate. I suck when trying to estimate thirds or any other "odd" fraction.
Ah! Most excellent idea. I've been annoyed by having to guess at serving numbers when I put in recipes. This is a good solution, although figuring the weight of a serving will still be a bit time-consuming. I guess it's better to spend my time weighing things a few times rather than spending 1/2 hour every night wondering if my serving size was accurate. :frown:
When I enter my recipes in to MFP, I use the # of total ounces of food as the number of people the recipe serves. So, one ounce of food = one serving.
That way, I can measure out 8 ounces of soup and log that I had 8 servings. For me, that's the most accurate way of doing things, since sometimes maybe I only want a little bit of something, and sometimes I want A LOT of it. I'm not restricted by a "serving size".0 -
Double silly is what your response is!Or... dont buy a scale, and overestimate. If you can do this, it will work in your favour, because you will be consuming just 100g of chips instead of your recorded 125g, drinking 250ml of juice instead of your recorded 400ml.
Then with the money that you havent wasted on a scale, you can go out and treat yourself afterwards!! Double whammy or what?!!!
Seriously, your response indicates disordered thinking around food. Accountability means honest logging.0 -
You know, your word choices come across as if you are trying to be coondescending, which says a whole lot about you and nothing about the person you take attitude with.Or... dont buy a scale, and overestimate. If you can do this, it will work in your favour, because you will be consuming just 100g of chips instead of your recorded 125g, drinking 250ml of juice instead of your recorded 400ml.
Then with the money that you havent wasted on a scale, you can go out and treat yourself afterwards!! Double whammy or what?!!!
Without a scale how do you know what 100g looks like????
A scale is about 20bucks
Well, lets have a think. If I buy a pack of chips that say 500g on it, then yes, I can take an educated guess on how much I use. I would then round it up to the next 50g or whatever because I am never going to declare myself eating 115.29g of chips.
Why would you even think of "food tricking" yourself?0 -
Accuracy is always going to beat estimating.
BAM. I am on board the scale-lovers train, keep it up!0 -
why get a food scale if you don't even know how much or how less to put on the scale? i guess i could do research
Say 1 serving size is a 1/2 cup of cottage cheese. You'd measure out a half cup, but use the scale to find out how much it is in grams or ounces because that is far more accurate than a 'cup' measurement. Sometimes a cup can weigh more than the serving size in grams, therefore it's more calories than are printed on the label for 1/2 cup.
Research is key...but not difficult. On food packaging the serving size is listed with the weight in grams or ounces next to it. - you do not need to measure out the 1/2 cup and weigh that to get the appropriate weight for the item. just put a bowl on the scale, zero it out and then add your food to be weighed.0 -
why get a food scale if you don't even know how much or how less to put on the scale? i guess i could do research
Say 1 serving size is a 1/2 cup of cottage cheese. You'd measure out a half cup, but use the scale to find out how much it is in grams or ounces because that is far more accurate than a 'cup' measurement. Sometimes a cup can weigh more than the serving size in grams, therefore it's more calories than are printed on the label for 1/2 cup.
Research is key...but not difficult. On food packaging the serving size is listed with the weight in grams or ounces next to it. - you do not need to measure out the 1/2 cup and weigh that to get the appropriate weight for the item. just put a bowl on the scale, zero it out and then add your food to be weighed.
Or even quicker, Put the bag on the scale and pull out till you subtract the weight you want out. Literally takes 5 seconds longer than having no scale at all.0 -
Congrats on the loss, and I totally agree on the food scale. Definitely helps keep correct portion sizes and are recommended by people on here daily for a reason. Now I know what serving sizes are of my daily foods without having to weigh them too much anymore, and mostly use it for produce/meat nowadays.
As far as overestimating goes, sure you could use it on some things if you really wanted, but for foods that don't come prepackaged with labels and serving sizes it could be difficult. Produce is a good example, say a gala apple. There are a bunch of search results that have servings like medium apple 84 cals, small apple 55 cals, and similar. Well what's a small apple? It's relative. I take a couple seconds to put my gala apple on the scale, it's 242 grams, enter it and that's 130 cals. You can easily get some pretty big differences, even if you thought you were overestimating, especially if you eat a lot of fruits/vegetables that vary quite a bit in size. If overestimating works for some people, great, but for me I want to know for sure I have a deficit.0 -
I don't weigh all my food (never have). I don't even own a scale. I have never had trouble surpassing my goals. If I ever do stop progressing I would think about getting a scale, but at this point I don't need to.
I am happy for everyone who weighs everything and enjoys it, do what works for you.0 -
I wonder if it's mostly the men who don't weigh their food...hmmm0
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I don't understand why people even bother counting calories if they don't use a scale. Frankly they'd be better off just trying another diet or eat low carb or something (and avoid sweets or anything high calorie really).. because at least that way they'd be less likely to overeat.
Unless they have eyeballing super powers but I frankly doubt many of us do... because really, with a 500 calorie deficit, it's very easy to eat close to maintenance if you don't weigh your food.
I lost 65lbs without using a scale. It was actually pretty easy. Didn't use a scale until I only had 10 to go, and then for a bulking phase. Was actually pretty easy.
I have always in the past lost weight without using a scale. Never even thought too until coming on here so obviously it is possible.
I think now that I do weigh my food I eat more then I did when I didn't.
I do hope to not have to weigh food forever as it gets annoying. lol.. I do not want my life to revolve around constantly thinking about food, etc. I want to be normal like other people I know, who like me in the past did not use a scale to lose weight and kept it off. lol
But as I said above using a scale has allowed me to eat more then when I didn't weigh food in the past. It also has helped me to develop better eating habits and in return has helped with my way of thinking about fitness in general.0 -
I think you could be on to something. My man has been using MFP since October, has lost twenty pounds, and rarely, if ever, weighs the food that goes on his plate. I've seen him do it when he's cooking, but for me and not himself.I wonder if it's mostly the men who don't weigh their food...hmmm
Yet, he's been as successful as he wants to be with his weight loss.0
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