Can Guys do Wheel?

LolBroScience

Sorry, to clarify, when I said guys who lift, I was thinking people with this sort of muscle mass. No amount of stretching will ever allow someone who had this much muscle in their upper body to do a wheel. Or put their hands behind their back. My ex husband could do a split, but at 250 pounds, 7-8% body fat, and 6"1', his muscles prevented him from putting his hands behind his back. There was a big gap that no amount of even another person could close by pushing his arms together. If he ever needed handcuffs, they'd need two sets, or tear his muscles.

No matter how flexible a person is, a solid wall of muscle is a solid wall. Can't bend beyond a certain point without breaking.

Never say never

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLlwuAJLY_E

phuckingbadasscutie

The answer is probably no.

This is how we do yoga!

Bahahaha! Typical!

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Fullsterkur_woman

Honestly, y'all are just not understanding the mechanics. It doesn't take a lot of shoulder flexibility. It's essentially a behind the neck should press. If your feet are grounded and you push off strong enough with your hands, your body goes into wheel automatically. The shoulder balancing poses like I mentioned earlier, those are the ones the require loose shoulders. Those are the ones lifters will struggle with.

No it doesn't. I understand, but you're wrong. My body doesn't flex. I feel my belly feel like it's going to rip open, and my hip flexors and my quads feel like they are going to explode. I am completely inflexible. It is that that keeps me from being able to "just push up into it". It's not that I can't do it because I don't know how or because I'm not strong enough, my body just wont do it right now. It's just like if you said, 'All you have to do to touch the ground is just bend over at the waist." That's a very ignorant, but factual comment. Maybe in a year or two, yes. Now, no.

So, take one page out of the phone book a day, and you'll get there.
http://placestoyoga.com/new-york-phone-book-and-yoga/

trojan_bb

I don't mean pro yogis. I mean, guys here. Guys that lift.

Guys that lift can't even touch their hands behind their backs!

only because flexibility and mobility tends to not be a priority.

If they continued to work on those things- they could.

That being said- the growth of muscle DEFINITELY tightens things up- I am a dancer- I work on stretching/mobility/flexibility quiet a bit- and I'm finding my shoulders across the front delt to be SUPER tight since I started bulking- i still stretch- but I have reduced range of motion- had I put more effort into it- I would have not lost as much I suspect.

Yep. You have to spend quite a bit of time working on flexibility to even have a hope of counteracting weightlifting's negative effects on flexibility. Eventually there are diminishing returns to this as size increases. It's not at 6'0 210 with a 1300 raw total like someone mentioned above...that's pretty average size with a decent strength total. Put that guy at 250 lbs and it's going to take an incredible amount of effort to keep flexibility the same, if it's even possible. A muscle can only be contracted to a certain extent...it will always take up physical space that hinders reach.

A wheel isn't a great example for this though. Only the back muscles are really contracted. Just takes quad and hip flexor flexibility.

SaintGiff

No it doesn't. I understand, but you're wrong. My body doesn't flex. I feel my belly feel like it's going to rip open, and my hip flexors and my quads feel like they are going to explode. I am completely inflexible. It is that that keeps me from being able to "just push up into it". It's not that I can't do it because I don't know how or because I'm not strong enough, my body just wont do it right now. It's just like if you said, 'All you have to do to touch the ground is just bend over at the waist." That's a very ignorant, but factual comment. Maybe in a year or two, yes. Now, no.

Then I really don't understand the point of this thread. At least not as it is presently constituted. You should have titled it "I am inflexible". Instead you tried to equate muscularity with a lack of flexibility because if you are flexible then you don't lift or some other nonsense. I don't know what to tell you, man. I've seen some insanely jacked guys with crazy flexibility. It's not a one or the other deal. And it certainly is not, in any way, gender-specific. Being muscular doesn't make you less flexible by default. At least not until you get to the point of someone whose bicep is so big they can't touch their nose. But you're talking about muscle elongation here, not muscle contraction. The whole "too muscular to move properly" thing is myth except in truly extreme cases. Otherwise, it's just a matter of dedicating a fraction of the time you spend building muscle to actually making it move properly. Athleticism is not a bad thing.

mank32

^^ that's my ethos, in a nutshell. except more emphasis on flexibility than anything else.

thesupremeforce

I can do it.

You do yoga; you don't count.

So, take up yoga. Problem solved.

Fullsterkur_woman

I don't know what to tell you, man. I've seen some insanely jacked guys with crazy flexibility.

True story. I know a guy who was a pro football player and, even in his 50s, his forward fold makes hypermobile me jealous. He just makes it look effortless. Some folks are just born athletes.

No_Finish_Line

Sorry, to clarify, when I said guys who lift, I was thinking people with this sort of muscle mass. No amount of stretching will ever allow someone who had this much muscle in their upper body to do a wheel. Or put their hands behind their back. My ex husband could do a split, but at 250 pounds, 7-8% body fat, and 6"1', his muscles prevented him from putting his hands behind his back. There was a big gap that no amount of even another person could close by pushing his arms together. If he ever needed handcuffs, they'd need two sets, or tear his muscles.

No matter how flexible a person is, a solid wall of muscle is a solid wall. Can't bend beyond a certain point without breaking.

idk, i've seen enormous fat guys with the same hand cuff issue, i don't think its muscle getting in the way in their case, just poor flexiblity

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EddieHaskell97

Men are awesome at Wheel!

SaintGiff

No it doesn't. I understand, but you're wrong. My body doesn't flex. I feel my belly feel like it's going to rip open, and my hip flexors and my quads feel like they are going to explode. I am completely inflexible. It is that that keeps me from being able to "just push up into it". It's not that I can't do it because I don't know how or because I'm not strong enough, my body just wont do it right now. It's just like if you said, 'All you have to do to touch the ground is just bend over at the waist." That's a very ignorant, but factual comment. Maybe in a year or two, yes. Now, no.

Then I really don't understand the point of this thread. At least not as it is presently constituted. You should have titled it "I am inflexible". Instead you tried to equate muscularity with a lack of flexibility because if you are flexible then you don't lift or some other nonsense. I don't know what to tell you, man. I've seen some insanely jacked guys with crazy flexibility. It's not a one or the other deal. And it certainly is not, in any way, gender-specific. Being muscular doesn't make you less flexible by default. At least not until you get to the point of someone whose bicep is so big they can't touch their nose. But you're talking about muscle elongation here, not muscle contraction. The whole "too muscular to move properly" thing is myth except in truly extreme cases. Otherwise, it's just a matter of dedicating a fraction of the time you spend building muscle to actually making it move properly. Athleticism is not a bad thing.

Because I have never seen a man able to do it. That's the point.

Stop arguing.

Excuse me? I'm not arguing for the sake of arguing. I'm pointing out that you took something you can't do, and decided that the only people who could do it were "professionals" or "guys who don't lift". You've had about a dozen people tell you that you are wrong, but rather than just say "Oh, ok... I guess it's just me and I should check out a yoga class" you want to keep prattling on. You broke this bad from the start. Don't pretend like I'm being obnoxious because you can't sack up and admit you were being insulting.

Chieflrg

Testosterone usually plays a factor in things like this especially as we get older.

ShellyBell999

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