Paleo Backpedaling?
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http://www.marksdailyapple.com/the-definitive-guide-to-resistant-starch/
At least, I kind of feel like this article is saying "you know those foods I told you to avoid because they were bad for you? It turns out they are good for you, so you shouldn't be avoiding them."
Now I'm curious if it's going to extend beyond white potatoes and legumes.
Eh. New research = new knowledge. It would be a little ridiculous to stick to dogma just for the sake of it. If you're not learning, growing, and evolving, then where's the fun in life?0 -
Yeah, I was just thinking about an ep of (Enterprise?) where there were two intelligent hominid species on a planet and one of them was exploiting the other as a slave class. I'm thinking it's probably a good thing that we dominate our niche.
Paleoantropology has just been directly related to Star Trek. I think my life is now complete. :flowerforyou:the field of palaeoanthropology seems to be coming to this conclusion too. Humans seem to be Borg. "you will be assimilated"0 -
Yeah, I was just thinking about an ep of (Enterprise?) where there were two intelligent hominid species on a planet and one of them was exploiting the other as a slave class. I'm thinking it's probably a good thing that we dominate our niche.
Paleoantropology has just been directly related to Star Trek. I think my life is now complete. :flowerforyou:the field of palaeoanthropology seems to be coming to this conclusion too. Humans seem to be Borg. "you will be assimilated"
that's interesting, because I was thinking of writing a future dystopia kind of sci-fi story where people clone Homo erectus to be factory workers and other menial labour jobs....0 -
Oh, pleeze dooo eeet!!! 10/10 would read do want!
Yeah, I was just thinking about an ep of (Enterprise?) where there were two intelligent hominid species on a planet and one of them was exploiting the other as a slave class. I'm thinking it's probably a good thing that we dominate our niche.
Paleoantropology has just been directly related to Star Trek. I think my life is now complete. :flowerforyou:the field of palaeoanthropology seems to be coming to this conclusion too. Humans seem to be Borg. "you will be assimilated"
that's interesting, because I was thinking of writing a future dystopia kind of sci-fi story where people clone Homo erectus to be factory workers and other menial labour jobs....0 -
Oh, pleeze dooo eeet!!! 10/10 would read do want!
Yeah, I was just thinking about an ep of (Enterprise?) where there were two intelligent hominid species on a planet and one of them was exploiting the other as a slave class. I'm thinking it's probably a good thing that we dominate our niche.
Paleoantropology has just been directly related to Star Trek. I think my life is now complete. :flowerforyou:the field of palaeoanthropology seems to be coming to this conclusion too. Humans seem to be Borg. "you will be assimilated"
that's interesting, because I was thinking of writing a future dystopia kind of sci-fi story where people clone Homo erectus to be factory workers and other menial labour jobs....
the problem I have with future dystopia stories, is I'm really good at thinking up the world in which they live... then I suck at thinking up a good story to happen in that world.... when I think of one I'll write it and let you know :drinker:0 -
Oh, pleeze dooo eeet!!! 10/10 would read do want!
Yeah, I was just thinking about an ep of (Enterprise?) where there were two intelligent hominid species on a planet and one of them was exploiting the other as a slave class. I'm thinking it's probably a good thing that we dominate our niche.
Paleoantropology has just been directly related to Star Trek. I think my life is now complete. :flowerforyou:the field of palaeoanthropology seems to be coming to this conclusion too. Humans seem to be Borg. "you will be assimilated"
that's interesting, because I was thinking of writing a future dystopia kind of sci-fi story where people clone Homo erectus to be factory workers and other menial labour jobs....
the problem I have with future dystopia stories, is I'm really good at thinking up the world in which they live... then I suck at thinking up a good story to happen in that world.... when I think of one I'll write it and let you know :drinker:
Guy meets girl....0 -
collaboration!!!!0
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http://www.marksdailyapple.com/the-definitive-guide-to-resistant-starch/
At least, I kind of feel like this article is saying "you know those foods I told you to avoid because they were bad for you? It turns out they are good for you, so you shouldn't be avoiding them."
Now I'm curious if it's going to extend beyond white potatoes and legumes.
Eh. New research = new knowledge. It would be a little ridiculous to stick to dogma just for the sake of it. If you're not learning, growing, and evolving, then where's the fun in life?
It wasn't new research.0 -
Oh, pleeze dooo eeet!!! 10/10 would read do want!
Yeah, I was just thinking about an ep of (Enterprise?) where there were two intelligent hominid species on a planet and one of them was exploiting the other as a slave class. I'm thinking it's probably a good thing that we dominate our niche.
Paleoantropology has just been directly related to Star Trek. I think my life is now complete. :flowerforyou:the field of palaeoanthropology seems to be coming to this conclusion too. Humans seem to be Borg. "you will be assimilated"
that's interesting, because I was thinking of writing a future dystopia kind of sci-fi story where people clone Homo erectus to be factory workers and other menial labour jobs....
the problem I have with future dystopia stories, is I'm really good at thinking up the world in which they live... then I suck at thinking up a good story to happen in that world.... when I think of one I'll write it and let you know :drinker:
One thing I read that I find fascinating is that when anthropologists find a homo erectus tool, they can pretty much "tell" what it did and the evidence supports them.
Neanderthal tools that are evidently "scrapers" don't turn out to be scrapers at all. and then they have those carved pieces of stone that shatter into 40 different tools if you hit them just right, but we can't really figure out how to do that. They were...different...in a way that the closer Homo Sapiens subspecies aren't.0 -
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/the-definitive-guide-to-resistant-starch/
At least, I kind of feel like this article is saying "you know those foods I told you to avoid because they were bad for you? It turns out they are good for you, so you shouldn't be avoiding them."
Now I'm curious if it's going to extend beyond white potatoes and legumes.
Eh. New research = new knowledge. It would be a little ridiculous to stick to dogma just for the sake of it. If you're not learning, growing, and evolving, then where's the fun in life?
It wasn't new research.
that's my big beef with this. or shall I say- my big beans with it
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I think you should start a chit chat thread asking for ideas. MFP BOOK COLLABORATION!!
Oh, pleeze dooo eeet!!! 10/10 would read do want!
Yeah, I was just thinking about an ep of (Enterprise?) where there were two intelligent hominid species on a planet and one of them was exploiting the other as a slave class. I'm thinking it's probably a good thing that we dominate our niche.
Paleoantropology has just been directly related to Star Trek. I think my life is now complete. :flowerforyou:the field of palaeoanthropology seems to be coming to this conclusion too. Humans seem to be Borg. "you will be assimilated"
that's interesting, because I was thinking of writing a future dystopia kind of sci-fi story where people clone Homo erectus to be factory workers and other menial labour jobs....
the problem I have with future dystopia stories, is I'm really good at thinking up the world in which they live... then I suck at thinking up a good story to happen in that world.... when I think of one I'll write it and let you know :drinker:0 -
Oh, pleeze dooo eeet!!! 10/10 would read do want!
Yeah, I was just thinking about an ep of (Enterprise?) where there were two intelligent hominid species on a planet and one of them was exploiting the other as a slave class. I'm thinking it's probably a good thing that we dominate our niche.
Paleoantropology has just been directly related to Star Trek. I think my life is now complete. :flowerforyou:the field of palaeoanthropology seems to be coming to this conclusion too. Humans seem to be Borg. "you will be assimilated"
that's interesting, because I was thinking of writing a future dystopia kind of sci-fi story where people clone Homo erectus to be factory workers and other menial labour jobs....
the problem I have with future dystopia stories, is I'm really good at thinking up the world in which they live... then I suck at thinking up a good story to happen in that world.... when I think of one I'll write it and let you know :drinker:
Guy meets girl....
I suck worse at love stories. It's not my genre. at. all.
I haven't tried a murder mystery though... maybe I could make that work in a future dystopia kind of setting.... hmm.... like CSI Miami but on mars in the distant future... CSI Mars LOL0 -
There clearly needs to be a kickass geneticist involved. Although if we're going with CSI, there's also a magical machine that runs every test possible (which is why I always preferred NCIS since the actress that plays Abby actually has a forensic science degree).
Oh, pleeze dooo eeet!!! 10/10 would read do want!
Yeah, I was just thinking about an ep of (Enterprise?) where there were two intelligent hominid species on a planet and one of them was exploiting the other as a slave class. I'm thinking it's probably a good thing that we dominate our niche.
Paleoantropology has just been directly related to Star Trek. I think my life is now complete. :flowerforyou:the field of palaeoanthropology seems to be coming to this conclusion too. Humans seem to be Borg. "you will be assimilated"
that's interesting, because I was thinking of writing a future dystopia kind of sci-fi story where people clone Homo erectus to be factory workers and other menial labour jobs....
the problem I have with future dystopia stories, is I'm really good at thinking up the world in which they live... then I suck at thinking up a good story to happen in that world.... when I think of one I'll write it and let you know :drinker:
Guy meets girl....
I suck worse at love stories. It's not my genre. at. all.
I haven't tried a murder mystery though... maybe I could make that work in a future dystopia kind of setting.... hmm.... like CSI Miami but on mars in the distant future... CSI Mars LOL0 -
Oh, pleeze dooo eeet!!! 10/10 would read do want!
Yeah, I was just thinking about an ep of (Enterprise?) where there were two intelligent hominid species on a planet and one of them was exploiting the other as a slave class. I'm thinking it's probably a good thing that we dominate our niche.
Paleoantropology has just been directly related to Star Trek. I think my life is now complete. :flowerforyou:the field of palaeoanthropology seems to be coming to this conclusion too. Humans seem to be Borg. "you will be assimilated"
that's interesting, because I was thinking of writing a future dystopia kind of sci-fi story where people clone Homo erectus to be factory workers and other menial labour jobs....
the problem I have with future dystopia stories, is I'm really good at thinking up the world in which they live... then I suck at thinking up a good story to happen in that world.... when I think of one I'll write it and let you know :drinker:
One thing I read that I find fascinating is that when anthropologists find a homo erectus tool, they can pretty much "tell" what it did and the evidence supports them.
Neanderthal tools that are evidently "scrapers" don't turn out to be scrapers at all. and then they have those carved pieces of stone that shatter into 40 different tools if you hit them just right, but we can't really figure out how to do that. They were...different...in a way that the closer Homo Sapiens subspecies aren't.
Personally I believe that all primitive humans have been very underestimated... firstly even though chimps are very much extant and there to be studied, humans have still managed to underestimate their capabilities, in fact even bonobos have been somewhat underestimated... but new studies into this one subspecies of chimp (which some are arguing should be a 3rd species in the genus pan) are much better tool users than previously thought, and females hunt bushbabies with sharpened sticks, which is pretty impressive for a chimp considering that some aren't sure Homo habilis was capable of hunting with pointy sticks.
secondly because only stone tools consistently make it into the fossil record, and the further back in time you go, the fewer non-stone tools survive. Just recently they found evidence of neanderthals making string by twisting grass stems together. Well mostly this kind of thing doesn't fossilise, and the only evidence of making non-stone tools are the existence of tools use to make non-stone tools, e.g. scrapers and awls used to make clothes from hides, the hides themselves don't survive. So we don't know what bone, wood, hide etc tools early humans had, and it's hard to say how most stone tools were used. Many, like the hand axe, were all-purpose tools, one lecturer at my uni described the hand axe as the palaeolithic swiss army knife. In any case, stone tools only represent a fraction of the tools made by any given species. Without archaeological evidence it's impossible to prove that any given species was cleverer than they're thought to be, but it's a gut feeling based on all of this.
But more evidence seems to be emerging that they were cleverer than thought, like Homo heidelbergensis hafting spearheads onto spears (previously thought only neanderthals and sapiens could do that) and the pattern of bones found associated with early homo like habilis and early erectus being more indicative of hunting rather than scavenging, and hunting the big adults in a pack too, not just the weak or baby animals. And a crap ton of evidence that neanderthals were cleverer than previously thought.0 -
There clearly needs to be a kickass geneticist involved. Although if we're going with CSI, there's also a magical machine that runs every test possible (which is why I always preferred NCIS since the actress that plays Abby actually has a forensic science degree).
Oh, pleeze dooo eeet!!! 10/10 would read do want!
Yeah, I was just thinking about an ep of (Enterprise?) where there were two intelligent hominid species on a planet and one of them was exploiting the other as a slave class. I'm thinking it's probably a good thing that we dominate our niche.
Paleoantropology has just been directly related to Star Trek. I think my life is now complete. :flowerforyou:the field of palaeoanthropology seems to be coming to this conclusion too. Humans seem to be Borg. "you will be assimilated"
that's interesting, because I was thinking of writing a future dystopia kind of sci-fi story where people clone Homo erectus to be factory workers and other menial labour jobs....
the problem I have with future dystopia stories, is I'm really good at thinking up the world in which they live... then I suck at thinking up a good story to happen in that world.... when I think of one I'll write it and let you know :drinker:
Guy meets girl....
I suck worse at love stories. It's not my genre. at. all.
I haven't tried a murder mystery though... maybe I could make that work in a future dystopia kind of setting.... hmm.... like CSI Miami but on mars in the distant future... CSI Mars LOL
yeah the temptation to do deus ex machina type forensic machine that can tell anything from any old rubbish because hey, it's the future you know would be too great... not sure if that would make the story more or less credible... kick *kitten* geneticist sounds better than magic... er I mean technologically advanced.. machine
anyway CSI Mars with a cloned Homo erectus as the murder victim and sinister sub-plots about Homo erectus people being cloned to work in sweat shops or something... might work... we'll see... lol
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Oh, pleeze dooo eeet!!! 10/10 would read do want!
Yeah, I was just thinking about an ep of (Enterprise?) where there were two intelligent hominid species on a planet and one of them was exploiting the other as a slave class. I'm thinking it's probably a good thing that we dominate our niche.
Paleoantropology has just been directly related to Star Trek. I think my life is now complete. :flowerforyou:the field of palaeoanthropology seems to be coming to this conclusion too. Humans seem to be Borg. "you will be assimilated"
that's interesting, because I was thinking of writing a future dystopia kind of sci-fi story where people clone Homo erectus to be factory workers and other menial labour jobs....
the problem I have with future dystopia stories, is I'm really good at thinking up the world in which they live... then I suck at thinking up a good story to happen in that world.... when I think of one I'll write it and let you know :drinker:
One thing I read that I find fascinating is that when anthropologists find a homo erectus tool, they can pretty much "tell" what it did and the evidence supports them.
Neanderthal tools that are evidently "scrapers" don't turn out to be scrapers at all. and then they have those carved pieces of stone that shatter into 40 different tools if you hit them just right, but we can't really figure out how to do that. They were...different...in a way that the closer Homo Sapiens subspecies aren't.
Personally I believe that all primitive humans have been very underestimated... firstly even though chimps are very much extant and there to be studied, humans have still managed to underestimate their capabilities, in fact even bonobos have been somewhat underestimated... but new studies into this one subspecies of chimp (which some are arguing should be a 3rd species in the genus pan) are much better tool users than previously thought, and females hunt bushbabies with sharpened sticks, which is pretty impressive for a chimp considering that some aren't sure Homo habilis was capable of hunting with pointy sticks.
secondly because only stone tools consistently make it into the fossil record, and the further back in time you go, the fewer non-stone tools survive. Just recently they found evidence of neanderthals making string by twisting grass stems together. Well mostly this kind of thing doesn't fossilise, and the only evidence of making non-stone tools are the existence of tools use to make non-stone tools, e.g. scrapers and awls used to make clothes from hides, the hides themselves don't survive. So we don't know what bone, wood, hide etc tools early humans had, and it's hard to say how most stone tools were used. Many, like the hand axe, were all-purpose tools, one lecturer at my uni described the hand axe as the palaeolithic swiss army knife. In any case, stone tools only represent a fraction of the tools made by any given species. Without archaeological evidence it's impossible to prove that any given species was cleverer than they're thought to be, but it's a gut feeling based on all of this.
But more evidence seems to be emerging that they were cleverer than thought, like Homo heidelbergensis hafting spearheads onto spears (previously thought only neanderthals and sapiens could do that) and the pattern of bones found associated with early homo like habilis and early erectus being more indicative of hunting rather than scavenging, and hunting the big adults in a pack too, not just the weak or baby animals. And a crap ton of evidence that neanderthals were cleverer than previously thought.
I've often thought that my cat exhibits more interpersonal skills, forethought and ability to thrive in the real world than many people assume was shared by early man.0 -
There clearly needs to be a kickass geneticist involved. Although if we're going with CSI, there's also a magical machine that runs every test possible (which is why I always preferred NCIS since the actress that plays Abby actually has a forensic science degree).
Oh, pleeze dooo eeet!!! 10/10 would read do want!
Yeah, I was just thinking about an ep of (Enterprise?) where there were two intelligent hominid species on a planet and one of them was exploiting the other as a slave class. I'm thinking it's probably a good thing that we dominate our niche.
Paleoantropology has just been directly related to Star Trek. I think my life is now complete. :flowerforyou:the field of palaeoanthropology seems to be coming to this conclusion too. Humans seem to be Borg. "you will be assimilated"
that's interesting, because I was thinking of writing a future dystopia kind of sci-fi story where people clone Homo erectus to be factory workers and other menial labour jobs....
the problem I have with future dystopia stories, is I'm really good at thinking up the world in which they live... then I suck at thinking up a good story to happen in that world.... when I think of one I'll write it and let you know :drinker:
Guy meets girl....
I suck worse at love stories. It's not my genre. at. all.
I haven't tried a murder mystery though... maybe I could make that work in a future dystopia kind of setting.... hmm.... like CSI Miami but on mars in the distant future... CSI Mars LOL
yeah the temptation to do deus ex machina type forensic machine that can tell anything from any old rubbish because hey, it's the future you know would be too great... not sure if that would make the story more or less credible... kick *kitten* geneticist sounds better than magic... er I mean technologically advanced.. machine
anyway CSI Mars with a cloned Homo erectus as the murder victim and sinister sub-plots about Homo erectus people being cloned to work in sweat shops or something... might work... we'll see... lol
Edited because I no construct can sentence
I think the Holly Winter books would be a great model. Cozy murders that add just enough meat for her to wax lyrical about her way-cool dogs and usually the mystery is solved through being able to read dog behavior.
So, somebody dies, or there's a theft or something. And you need to know some of the capabilities of Homo Erectus to be able to figure out whodunit.0 -
It's interesting to me how many people bash Paleo/Primal without fully understanding the concept or all of the multiple "exceptions" such as those I listed above.
That would take us back to an old argument that people here have-that an anything goes approach to Paleo dilutes the meaning and makes it impossible to understand.
We don't really want to go there again, do we? (I actually don't. I'm really in here to learn about resistant starch. It's an exciting life, but someone has to lead it. I hope this thread is still here by the time I get home.)
something tells me that is exactly where this will go....0 -
It's interesting to me how many people bash Paleo/Primal without fully understanding the concept or all of the multiple "exceptions" such as those I listed above.
That would take us back to an old argument that people here have-that an anything goes approach to Paleo dilutes the meaning and makes it impossible to understand. We don't really want to go there again, do we? (I actually don't. I'm really in here to learn about resistant starch. It's an exciting life, but someone has to lead it. I hope this thread is still here by the time I get home.)
something tells me that is exactly where this will go....
Lol, I'll be back in for that one.
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Butter is very insulinogenic and the synergistic effect would increase insulin secretion, not dull it. Fortunately I eat potatoes with butter and no diet would ever stop this guy from munching down on them. That damn insulin eh!Also, listening to last weeks pod cast when he spoke about white potatoes, he did still mention to eat them in moderation and suggested adding butter to them to slow down the conversion process to glucose.
I'm already a convert though and will probably not switch back from sweet potato.
Although I am thinking about trying a sweet potato / maris piper, butter / cream - mash combo this weekend.0 -
This reminds me that I still want to try making a cottage pie with sweet potatoes because I think it would be tasty!
Butter is very insulinogenic and the synergistic effect would increase insulin secretion, not dull it. Fortunately I eat potatoes with butter and no diet would ever stop this guy from munching down on them. That damn insulin eh!Also, listening to last weeks pod cast when he spoke about white potatoes, he did still mention to eat them in moderation and suggested adding butter to them to slow down the conversion process to glucose.
I'm already a convert though and will probably not switch back from sweet potato.
Although I am thinking about trying a sweet potato / maris piper, butter / cream - mash combo this weekend.0 -
It's interesting to me how many people bash Paleo/Primal without fully understanding the concept or all of the multiple "exceptions" such as those I listed above.
That would take us back to an old argument that people here have-that an anything goes approach to Paleo dilutes the meaning and makes it impossible to understand. We don't really want to go there again, do we? (I actually don't. I'm really in here to learn about resistant starch. It's an exciting life, but someone has to lead it. I hope this thread is still here by the time I get home.)
something tells me that is exactly where this will go....
Actually, it seems to be going to murder mysteries and cottage pie.0
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