Day 1, AGAIN
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Oh my Goodness this is the worst I've seen in a long time, this is just terrible. Why is there so much anger, what's the point?0
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Hey, jrhino38,
why did you edit your post about me? I'm a big girl (as you so graciously alluded to in your deleted post), I can handle your insults. In fact, I ask that you repost your comments to me for all the world to see.
I think it was edited by the mods--I had a post directly under it quoting it and my post is entirely gone, I assume the mods nuked it.
Yeah, I thought you had quoted it. I kinda am disappointed that it was removed. I've never been flamed like that before.0 -
starvation turns people into internet tough guys.Oh my Goodness this is the worst I've seen in a long time, this is just terrible. Why is there so much anger, what's the point?0 -
WOW, way to be positive and motivational... No need for your kind of support on my blog or page!
Support isn't always telling you what you want to hear... you need to hear this. If you're on some wacky program, it's probably going to fail. Sorry you don't like it. How about some more information you probably don't care for, but could really freaking help?
here:
1. don't trust the initial setup that MFP provides. If you put in the wrong/inaccurate information, it'll tell you to eat an amount that may not be applicable.
2. Make sure you eat enough.
3. Figure out what works for you and is sustainable/healthy/long term.
4. avoid fads. don't buy in to any "Hey, try the twinkie and vodka diet"
5. Don't cut out anything now that you don't plan on literally giving up forever.
6. GET A FOOD SCALE. Weigh everything. No, seriously.
7. Get an HRM with a chest strap. You'll at least have a better idea of what you're burning. It'll be more accurate than the generic info in the exercise database.. and even more than the cardio machines. This is great for steady state cardio (run/walk/etc)
8. Don't go balls out. You'll burn out. I see 300 lb people show up here, instantly start working out and cutting their intake SEVERELY... trying to cut out all of their carbs at once.. whatever. Take it slow. Figure out how much you need to eat FIRST in order to lose.. then incorporate exercise.
9. Don't cardio yourself to death.
10. Take the information on the forums with a grain of salt. A lot of people that have been here for a while.. and have been successful, may seem jaded. They give out GREAT advice day after day, only to be met with people that refuse to listen.
11. Eat real food. Not diet food. Not "low fat, sugar free, now without X." It's easier to get/find/count.
12. don't set time restrictions.
13. measure yourself weekly. Don't just weigh. Measure and take pictures.
14 BE PATIENT.
15. Avoid forum topics that have "1200" in the title. It's just full of butthurt. Lots of it.
16. If you ask a question on the forum, give as much information as you can ("yes, I have a food scale and weigh my food" is worlds better than "I eat a palm full of miscellaneous boiled chicken parts..sometimes.")
17. Be honest with yourself and honest with us.
18. This isn't a game, it's about changing your lifestyle. Do that.
pretty much that.
...and don't fall into the "1200 calorie" vertigo of suck because of:
the typical MFP users does this:
1. I wanna lose weight, let's try MFP.
2. OH! Wow, it tells me I can lose 2 lbs a WEEK? AWESOME!
3. I just sit at a desk when I'm not working out, I guess I'm sedentary.
4. MFP tells them 1200 calories, and they don't even eat that.. then they work out on top of it.. creating an even bigger deficit.
5. Lose a lot, fast, brag about 1200 calorie success.
6. Come back in a few months trying to figure out why they're dizzy, tired, not losing weight.
7. Get on the forums, ask why they aren't losing.
8. Get two responses (I eat 1200 and lose) (I eat 2200 and lose)
9. Argument ensues about who is right.
Now. That being said. These threads happen hundreds of times per day. Most times, and I mean really.. seriously.. 95% of the time.. people get the 1200 number because they don't put the right information in when they set up the account. There are a great number of people that are trying to help. I'm one of 'em.
I'm a hardcore advocate of actually finding out what works for the individual.. by means of other calculators, averages, time, practice, and patience.
Blanket prescriptions of 1200 calories "because it worked for me" is more harmful to the generic new user than the "figure out what you need to eat." Unfortunately, one is a LOT easier to type.
Find out what you need: http://scoobysworkshop.com/accurate-calorie-calculator/
and make sure to read: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants
...and here's another approach.
Block off 6 weeks. log EXACTLY what you eat for those six weeks, weigh at the beginning, weight at the end. If you've lost, you're eating under your TDEE. If you haven't lost, congrats.. you found your TDEE, if you've gained... then you're above TDEE.
From there, look at how much you lost or gained and you have a rough estimate of how to shift your intake to balance it out.
Online calculators are great, but they're just estimates. They give you decent ideas for starting points. From there, it's on you to fine tune it.
Well if anything good came from the post, we got some good info here!! Thanks!!0 -
I'm grabbing popcorn.....y'all are putting on a show now! Free entertainment0
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Anyone who doesn't outright scoff at a "Lose 10 pounds in 10 days" program, yet alone actually attempts it, is destined to fail. This is not me being negative, and I am not a "fat, jealous cow" as another poster put it. This is fact. Attempting to lose, or losing that amount of weight in such a short time is unhealthy and will mentally put you down when you inevitably gain the weight back, which you will.0
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I'm grabbing popcorn.....y'all are putting on a show now! Free entertainment
I know...making the last 30 mins of my shift go by faster...OP seemed really devistated by a tad bit of advice.0 -
The OP is probably really hungry and devastated that she didn't get the support she was hoping for.0
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WOW, way to be positive and motivational... No need for your kind of support on my blog or page!
Oh please.....0 -
Seriously! This is one of the best explanations of things I've read on MFP.WOW, way to be positive and motivational... No need for your kind of support on my blog or page!
Support isn't always telling you what you want to hear... you need to hear this. If you're on some wacky program, it's probably going to fail. Sorry you don't like it. How about some more information you probably don't care for, but could really freaking help?
here:
1. don't trust the initial setup that MFP provides. If you put in the wrong/inaccurate information, it'll tell you to eat an amount that may not be applicable.
2. Make sure you eat enough.
3. Figure out what works for you and is sustainable/healthy/long term.
4. avoid fads. don't buy in to any "Hey, try the twinkie and vodka diet"
5. Don't cut out anything now that you don't plan on literally giving up forever.
6. GET A FOOD SCALE. Weigh everything. No, seriously.
7. Get an HRM with a chest strap. You'll at least have a better idea of what you're burning. It'll be more accurate than the generic info in the exercise database.. and even more than the cardio machines. This is great for steady state cardio (run/walk/etc)
8. Don't go balls out. You'll burn out. I see 300 lb people show up here, instantly start working out and cutting their intake SEVERELY... trying to cut out all of their carbs at once.. whatever. Take it slow. Figure out how much you need to eat FIRST in order to lose.. then incorporate exercise.
9. Don't cardio yourself to death.
10. Take the information on the forums with a grain of salt. A lot of people that have been here for a while.. and have been successful, may seem jaded. They give out GREAT advice day after day, only to be met with people that refuse to listen.
11. Eat real food. Not diet food. Not "low fat, sugar free, now without X." It's easier to get/find/count.
12. don't set time restrictions.
13. measure yourself weekly. Don't just weigh. Measure and take pictures.
14 BE PATIENT.
15. Avoid forum topics that have "1200" in the title. It's just full of butthurt. Lots of it.
16. If you ask a question on the forum, give as much information as you can ("yes, I have a food scale and weigh my food" is worlds better than "I eat a palm full of miscellaneous boiled chicken parts..sometimes.")
17. Be honest with yourself and honest with us.
18. This isn't a game, it's about changing your lifestyle. Do that.
pretty much that.
...and don't fall into the "1200 calorie" vertigo of suck because of:
the typical MFP users does this:
1. I wanna lose weight, let's try MFP.
2. OH! Wow, it tells me I can lose 2 lbs a WEEK? AWESOME!
3. I just sit at a desk when I'm not working out, I guess I'm sedentary.
4. MFP tells them 1200 calories, and they don't even eat that.. then they work out on top of it.. creating an even bigger deficit.
5. Lose a lot, fast, brag about 1200 calorie success.
6. Come back in a few months trying to figure out why they're dizzy, tired, not losing weight.
7. Get on the forums, ask why they aren't losing.
8. Get two responses (I eat 1200 and lose) (I eat 2200 and lose)
9. Argument ensues about who is right.
Now. That being said. These threads happen hundreds of times per day. Most times, and I mean really.. seriously.. 95% of the time.. people get the 1200 number because they don't put the right information in when they set up the account. There are a great number of people that are trying to help. I'm one of 'em.
I'm a hardcore advocate of actually finding out what works for the individual.. by means of other calculators, averages, time, practice, and patience.
Blanket prescriptions of 1200 calories "because it worked for me" is more harmful to the generic new user than the "figure out what you need to eat." Unfortunately, one is a LOT easier to type.
Find out what you need: http://scoobysworkshop.com/accurate-calorie-calculator/
and make sure to read: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants
...and here's another approach.
Block off 6 weeks. log EXACTLY what you eat for those six weeks, weigh at the beginning, weight at the end. If you've lost, you're eating under your TDEE. If you haven't lost, congrats.. you found your TDEE, if you've gained... then you're above TDEE.
From there, look at how much you lost or gained and you have a rough estimate of how to shift your intake to balance it out.
Online calculators are great, but they're just estimates. They give you decent ideas for starting points. From there, it's on you to fine tune it.
Well if anything good came from the post, we got some good info here!! Thanks!!
And ugh, I can't stand when someone calls people haters because they don't subscribe to their bs.0 -
The OP is probably really hungry and devastated that she didn't get the support she was hoping for.
Yeah well life is like a box of chocolates... You never know what you are going to get.0 -
In. So in.0
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I really enjoy it when someone offers excellent, sound advice and the OP shoots it down and says, "Nah, I'm going to continue to do my stupid thing." But I've never seen someone being viciously attacked for said excellent, sound advice. Good lord.
Time to break out the popcorn before the thread lock.0 -
trogalicious once again i see a bitter fat body putting someone down. you fat people are all the same bitter and hate when someone is doing something better for themselves . your problem is that your not good enough to be seen in public places and feel good about your self so you put others down. so you post that you have lost 153 lbs so what good for you does that mean you have the right to go on here and try to beat someone down. wow you a real big person and i mean that in both ways. you must have a vast wealth of knowledge on how to loose weight with your 153 lbs lost ( just kidding ) .someone is trying to loose 10 lbs let me ask you this why is that you got so fat that even with loosing 153 lbs your still fat . people like you don't have the right to say anything to anyone your just as repulsive as Calliope610 and should not be allowed to pro create
Reported!!!! Trolling!!! Get a life!!!!!0 -
Putting aside all the other drama happening in this post....
Thanks trogalicious for all the awesome advice! If someone had laid that all out for me a year ago, it might not be "Day 1, Again" for me as well. Hopefully this time I can figure it all out and stick with it.
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"Failure is not falling down, it is not getting up again." - Mary Pickford
"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
QFT.0 -
ME TOO!!!0
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I'm back again after gaining 20 pounds in the past 2 years. I'm only 5'3'' so that's a lot for my frame. Being a grad student (stressed, busy, overtired) has lead me down a very unhealthy path. But I'm tired of making excuses-- I'm going to actually make time for exercise and eat healthier. I quit smoking recently as well. I'm tired of feeling bad about myself. So here's to trying!0
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Good luck, OP!0
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While this is good information, your approach for delivery might be unwarranted. I believe the original poster said this was her first time she ever tried a 10 day program and she didn't need the negativity from the poster who claimed she would be back at day 1 without knowing anything about her. I would bet that it was the immediate judgment of her failure that she didn't appreciate. Don't get me wrong, a lot of what you said is true and great info to have. However, it probably would be better received as "here are some tips to keep in mind when joining MFP . . ." and go from there--rather than starting off assuming she wouldn't want to hear it (it's pretty valuable information). It doesn't have to be something she has to want to hear, but it should nevertheless be polite. Props for wanting to pass on good information and sharing.0
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How about instead of "jump starting" your "diet", why don't you make healthy LIFESTYLE changes? Losing weight isn't just about LOSING IT, it's about learning to make a new lift for yourself and learn to what you can stick to. I really don't think anyone wants to stick to "jump starting" anything for the rest of their life.0
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oh, we've covered that already. Apparently we're all unsuccessful losers for offering sound advice. I fully expect another "why are people on here so mean!" post from this soon.How about instead of "jump starting" your "diet", why don't you make healthy LIFESTYLE changes? Losing weight isn't just about LOSING IT, it's about learning to make a new lift for yourself and learn to what you can stick to. I really don't think anyone wants to stick to "jump starting" anything for the rest of their life.0 -
I agree with everyone on the fact fad diets usually are unsuccessfully, but I do think this could have been said a bit nicer. If be pretty offended if someone is bringing me down by saying "you'll be on day 1 again eventually" everyone has an opinion; we dont all have to agree with it but why be mean/argue because you don't have the same opinion. I also think its completely wrong to say the OP was the one who posted that ugly reply, I mean really how do you know it was her. Your over here egging on the situation by saying "I'd be mad too if I only ate 925(or how many ever you put lol) calories too" I think we all need to support each other even if you do not agree with each others diet. No offense intended it was great advice just came out a bit strong. My opinion is fad diets do not work unless you plan on eating healthy . I did the military diet lost 9 lbs kept it off by eating clean simple but that doesn't mean I will be doing the military diet every week or two. Just my input I hope I don't get my head chewed off or get called fat or unhealthy or get told my lifestyle is crap lol. (Btw I did the military diet a while back before my second baby so of course I've gained weight since then... I might just do it again to kick start some weight loss lol (I do what I want lol)0
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Hmmm. Sounds a little, um, MANIC. :noway:0
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Wow.0
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Google search results - "10 Pounds in 10 Days | The Dr. Oz Show"0
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Hmmm. Sounds a little, um, MANIC. :noway:
My thoughts too. Do I have to snort 10 lines of cocaine in 10 days too? That's the only way I'd lose anything close to that.0 -
I agree and promote a commitment to a healthy lifestyle is the way to go! However I'm a competitive woman so these 10 day challenges(fads) just adds fuel to my fire and I must overcome them when I commit! I mean same thing with everyone's exercise plans right? I'm sure more than most of you do abs legs etc challenges so let's not get out of hand people. Keep your mind body soul guessing... Add me ^_^0
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I agree and promote a commitment to a healthy lifestyle is the way to go! However I'm a competitive woman so these 10 day challenges(fads) just adds fuel to my fire and I must overcome them when I commit! I mean same thing with everyone's exercise plans right? I'm sure more than most of you do abs legs etc challenges so let's not get out of hand people. Keep your mind body soul guessing... Add me ^_^
There is a big difference in doing a fitness challenge and doing an undereating challenge. One improves health by working your muscles, the other damages it by wasting them away.0 -
Hey, jrhino38,
why did you edit your post about me? I'm a big girl (as you so graciously alluded to in your deleted post), I can handle your insults. In fact, I ask that you repost your comments to me for all the world to see.
I think it was edited by the mods--I had a post directly under it quoting it and my post is entirely gone, I assume the mods nuked it.
Yeah, I thought you had quoted it. I kinda am disappointed that it was removed. I've never been flamed like that before.
She can flame all she wants, but your ticker shows the difference between a successful sustainable plan and continually starting over at day 1 on an unsustainable plan.0
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