If 'eating clean' is so easy for you, how did you get fat?
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I started eating clean recently. I got fat after eating boxes of brownies, bags of cookies, 3 sandwiches in a day, anything and everything from the frozen section, pasta (mac and cheese and those sidekick type of things), chicken fingers, cheese and crackers (not in moderation), and eating fast food almost every day.
So eating clean made me lose weight because I'm not eating so much cr@p. 57lbs lost in 5.5 months. Yea I'll stick to eating clean.
actually it was a calorie deficet that made you lose weight....
sorry eating "clean" is a buzz word and will have no impact on weight loss if you don't do it in moderation too...
The difference is the calorie deficit is a result of eating clean. If you're eating to satiety and eating 'dirty' you'll eat a lot more than if you eat clean.
In the end, there is a caloric deficiency and that's why the weight is lost but it's not a forced deficiency and that makes a huge difference.
People only have so much willpower. If you're only staying under your calories because you stop yourself from eating (even when you're hungry), then you're going to go right back up once you stop counting calories.
People always say 'oh you'd gain weight if you ate 4000 calories/day of clean foods". Yes, that might be right, but good luck trying to reach that eating meat and vegetables. I could probably eat that in one meal going to McDonald's.
This also doesn't take into consideration the effect on BMR (and there's some good evidence that if you're hungry, your body is telling you you should eat, and if you don't eat, it negatively affects your BMR)
You can eat "dirty" and still have the deficet...esp based on my understanding of clean eating.
I can eat 6oz of chicken fingers and a salad from Dairy queen and be just as full from that as I can be from eating 6oz of chicken at home...
and eating over maintenance regardless of how you do it cause weight gain..there is no might about it.
I can easily eat "dirty" food everyday and still manage to hit my macros and stay in a reasonable deficet everyday...and I am never hungry...
It's all about moderation...clean eating is a buzz word...and no amount of debate will change the fact that you can get fat eating clean just as easy as eating "dirty" and if you can eat 4000 calories in one sitting at MacDonalds and you aren't full...wow...
a quarter pounder blt has 600 calories...that is a filling burger, add a salad into that and it's at maybe 700 calories...not sure what you plan on adding to that to get to 4000 calories but it would personally make me puke.0 -
I just ate too much, clean or otherwise. I would happily eaten a salad over lunch (with half a kg of feta cheese and 2 tbs of olive oil), followed by chocolate as a mid-day snack, followed by a bag of chips before dinner, followed by two full plates of a relatively healthy dinner (with waaaaay too much olive oil), followed by ... (well, you get the drift).
I eat a lot more "healthy" now because I don't feel I would be satisfied by just eating 5 chips before dinner. I rather eat a whole bowl of veggies with some hummus. So I guess, for me, the "cleaner" diet is just a matter of portion control and to be able to feel satisfied throughout the day. If I really want something, I get it, though. Otherwise, it wouldn't be sustainable for me, because, I am also quite obsessed with food
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I started eating clean recently. I got fat after eating boxes of brownies, bags of cookies, 3 sandwiches in a day, anything and everything from the frozen section, pasta (mac and cheese and those sidekick type of things), chicken fingers, cheese and crackers (not in moderation), and eating fast food almost every day.
So eating clean made me lose weight because I'm not eating so much cr@p. 57lbs lost in 5.5 months. Yea I'll stick to eating clean.
actually it was a calorie deficet that made you lose weight....
sorry eating "clean" is a buzz word and will have no impact on weight loss if you don't do it in moderation too...
The difference is the calorie deficit is a result of eating clean. If you're eating to satiety and eating 'dirty' you'll eat a lot more than if you eat clean.
In the end, there is a caloric deficiency and that's why the weight is lost but it's not a forced deficiency and that makes a huge difference.
People only have so much willpower. If you're only staying under your calories because you stop yourself from eating (even when you're hungry), then you're going to go right back up once you stop counting calories.
People always say 'oh you'd gain weight if you ate 4000 calories/day of clean foods". Yes, that might be right, but good luck trying to reach that eating meat and vegetables. I could probably eat that in one meal going to McDonald's.
This also doesn't take into consideration the effect on BMR (and there's some good evidence that if you're hungry, your body is telling you you should eat, and if you don't eat, it negatively affects your BMR)
Agreed. People on MFP love to chime in "Oh but caloric deficit!", while ignoring how said deficit was achieved and ignoring how certain ways of eating can make achieving such a deficit easier.
For example, if you take two people and tell them to eat until they're satiated, where one person can only eat Taco Bell crunchwraps and the other person can only eat home-cooked meats and fresh vegetables, odds are the first person will consume way more calories per day because he's eating incredibly caloricly dense foods that are not particularly satiating (at least not relative to their calorie count). Did "eating clean" help the second person lose more/gain less weight? In part, because it helped him achieve a lower average caloric intake by eating more satiating foods. Even if you put them on the same caloric intake, who's likely to be happier/more satiated? I'd have to say the second person in the vast majority of cases (I'm sure there's someone out there who bucks the trend and whose life revolves around Taco Bell).
That's not to say you can't get fat eating "clean" foods; of course you can. I'd wager that you're better off the "cleaner" you eat, though.0 -
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i know me personally when i say its easy .. i mean once i learned how you can still eat tasty food and it can still be healthy it became easy when i first started a year ago before i even joined up here it was hard at first but the more results i saw the easier it became the more ideas i came up with for food the easier it became. I feel like once you get an understanding for food and what is more important it starts to become easier ... but i will never forget how hard it was at first 0
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I started eating clean recently. I got fat after eating boxes of brownies, bags of cookies, 3 sandwiches in a day, anything and everything from the frozen section, pasta (mac and cheese and those sidekick type of things), chicken fingers, cheese and crackers (not in moderation), and eating fast food almost every day.
So eating clean made me lose weight because I'm not eating so much cr@p. 57lbs lost in 5.5 months. Yea I'll stick to eating clean.
actually it was a calorie deficet that made you lose weight....
sorry eating "clean" is a buzz word and will have no impact on weight loss if you don't do it in moderation too...
The difference is the calorie deficit is a result of eating clean. If you're eating to satiety and eating 'dirty' you'll eat a lot more than if you eat clean.
In the end, there is a caloric deficiency and that's why the weight is lost but it's not a forced deficiency and that makes a huge difference.
People only have so much willpower. If you're only staying under your calories because you stop yourself from eating (even when you're hungry), then you're going to go right back up once you stop counting calories.
People always say 'oh you'd gain weight if you ate 4000 calories/day of clean foods". Yes, that might be right, but good luck trying to reach that eating meat and vegetables. I could probably eat that in one meal going to McDonald's.
This also doesn't take into consideration the effect on BMR (and there's some good evidence that if you're hungry, your body is telling you you should eat, and if you don't eat, it negatively affects your BMR)
You can eat "dirty" and still have the deficet...esp based on my understanding of clean eating.
I can eat 6oz of chicken fingers and a salad from Dairy queen and be just as full from that as I can be from eating 6oz of chicken at home...
and eating over maintenance regardless of how you do it cause weight gain..there is no might about it.
I can easily eat "dirty" food everyday and still manage to hit my macros and stay in a reasonable deficet everyday...and I am never hungry...
It's all about moderation...clean eating is a buzz word...and no amount of debate will change the fact that you can get fat eating clean just as easy as eating "dirty" and if you can eat 4000 calories in one sitting at MacDonalds and you aren't full...wow...
a quarter pounder blt has 600 calories...that is a filling burger, add a salad into that and it's at maybe 700 calories...not sure what you plan on adding to that to get to 4000 calories but it would personally make me puke.
I did a calculation on McDonald's site.
An angus burger, a large fry, a milkshake, and a turnover are 2730 calories (more than I generally net in a day). I could eat that. I'm not saying I wouldn't be full. I would be, but I could eat it without much of a problem.
I'm also not saying you must 'eat clean' to eat at a deficit and lose weight or that it's not possible to gain weight and eat clean. What I'm saying it makes it easier for many people (me included) because of how much more filling quality food is.
I remember buying lean cuisines and low-fat crackers trying to lose weight and always being hungry. I'd 'crack' all the time and would end up bingeing on entire frozen pizzas. "I'll make it and eat just two slices to stay under my calories" I would say and before I knew it, I'd devoured an entire pizza which was 2000 calories.
Beyond weight loss as well there are huge benefits to getting plenty of vegetables and proteins into your system.
Edit: With that said, you're right that eating 'clean' is just a buzz word people use. There's also no 'right' definition of it and everyone's interpretation is probably different.
For me, it's saying that the quality of food matters. To me a 'clean' diet revolves around natural foods found in nature (meat and vegetables). It's not saying that you can't have dessert or a piece of pizza, but that the focus of your diet (what you eat) is on those natural foods.0 -
I started eating clean recently. I got fat after eating boxes of brownies, bags of cookies, 3 sandwiches in a day, anything and everything from the frozen section, pasta (mac and cheese and those sidekick type of things), chicken fingers, cheese and crackers (not in moderation), and eating fast food almost every day.
So eating clean made me lose weight because I'm not eating so much cr@p. 57lbs lost in 5.5 months. Yea I'll stick to eating clean.
actually it was a calorie deficet that made you lose weight....
sorry eating "clean" is a buzz word and will have no impact on weight loss if you don't do it in moderation too...
The difference is the calorie deficit is a result of eating clean. If you're eating to satiety and eating 'dirty' you'll eat a lot more than if you eat clean.
In the end, there is a caloric deficiency and that's why the weight is lost but it's not a forced deficiency and that makes a huge difference.
People only have so much willpower. If you're only staying under your calories because you stop yourself from eating (even when you're hungry), then you're going to go right back up once you stop counting calories.
People always say 'oh you'd gain weight if you ate 4000 calories/day of clean foods". Yes, that might be right, but good luck trying to reach that eating meat and vegetables. I could probably eat that in one meal going to McDonald's.
This also doesn't take into consideration the effect on BMR (and there's some good evidence that if you're hungry, your body is telling you you should eat, and if you don't eat, it negatively affects your BMR)
You can eat "dirty" and still have the deficet...esp based on my understanding of clean eating.
I can eat 6oz of chicken fingers and a salad from Dairy queen and be just as full from that as I can be from eating 6oz of chicken at home...
and eating over maintenance regardless of how you do it cause weight gain..there is no might about it.
I can easily eat "dirty" food everyday and still manage to hit my macros and stay in a reasonable deficet everyday...and I am never hungry...
It's all about moderation...clean eating is a buzz word...and no amount of debate will change the fact that you can get fat eating clean just as easy as eating "dirty" and if you can eat 4000 calories in one sitting at MacDonalds and you aren't full...wow...
a quarter pounder blt has 600 calories...that is a filling burger, add a salad into that and it's at maybe 700 calories...not sure what you plan on adding to that to get to 4000 calories but it would personally make me puke.
I did a calculation on McDonald's site.
An angus burger, a large fry, a milkshake, and a turnover are 2730 calories (more than I generally net in a day). I could eat that. I'm not saying I wouldn't be full. I would be, but I could eat it without much of a problem.
I'm also not saying you must 'eat clean' to eat at a deficit and lose weight or that it's not possible to gain weight and eat clean. What I'm saying it makes it easier for many people (me included) because of how much more filling quality food is.
I remember buying lean cuisines and low-fat crackers trying to lose weight and always being hungry. I'd 'crack' all the time and would end up bingeing on entire frozen pizzas. "I'll make it and eat just two slices to stay under my calories" I would say and before I knew it, I'd devoured an entire pizza which was 2000 calories.
Beyond weight loss as well there are huge benefits to getting plenty of vegetables and proteins into your system.
Why do you have to get a large fry? A small is perfectly satisfying. I on occasion get a 6 piece nugget and a small fry and easily fit it into my day. It's moderation.0 -
Apologies for using 'fat', but overweight was too long to fit in the title.
I keep seeing so many threads about people who eat 'clean', avoid processed sugar, follow their hunger signs etc, and it seems so easy for them.
My question to those people is... if your relationship with food is so healthy... how did you get overweight in the first place?
I mean, I got fat because I love food, I'm obsessed with food (notice I didn't use 'addicted'), and it's just a huge part of my life. All my life I've just eaten what I wanted when I wanted it... I don't remember my parents ever telling me I couldn't have something. I just helped myself. I don't think I'll ever be able to just see food as sustenance... it's a pleasure. I've got much better at moderation and trying to make the most of my calories (taste-wise... I don't exactly meet my macros every day, lol), but I don't think the desire to eat more tasty food will ever go away. I'm aware it's going to be a life-long struggle.
Just really curious about this (and probably a bit jealous, lol. I wish I was one of those people for whom losing weight was easy).
Edited for bad, bad grammar.
I don't eat 100% clean...but I eat relatively cleanish and always have really. I'm a foodie and enjoy quality foods made from scratch, whole ingredients. I think a lot of people forget that fat is naturally occurring...it is in many whole (clean) foods...it's pretty ****in' easy to over consume eating pretty darned clean. IMHO, a Ribeye steak is clean...it is a whole food...full fat dairy products IMHO are "clean" whole foods...I could eat my weight in avocados and almonds. People make it out like it's some kind of chore to actually over eat while eating primarily whole foods, and it just isn't...the ones who think it is are the ones who are afraid of dietary fat.
I got fat because I used to be extremely active...I grew up playing sports and involved in all manner of athletics. I went into the Marine Corps out of high school and was paid to train. When I left the military and started college I had no vehicle, just my bike...and I loved hiking and playing roller hockey with my buddies and was just really active. When I graduated I took a desk job that had me working 60 - 80 hrs per week and often on the road...my activity level went to **** but I kept on eating the same amount of food. Like I said, I have long cooked most of my meals from scratch whole ingredients and enjoy quality food...I'm not a big junk food guy...I haven't been to a McDonalds in over 15 years. My biggest issue junk food wise was probably soda and most of my life I've gone through periods of abstinence and heavy consumption of soda, but that has been my only real junky kind of vice but I had no problems cutting back while I was losing weight and I haven't had one in about 9 months or so.
Other than the soda thing, my weight loss is largely attributable to me scaling back my portions and getting back into fitness and exercise...I cook the same stuff I've always cooked and eat the same food I've always eaten and that is largely comprised of foods which I would consider "clean"; however, I do not make my own pasta or ice cream and I have no time for juicing so I drink low sodium V8 and I really like this one particular commercial marinara sauce that saves me from having to make my own all of the time, etc....0 -
Apologies for using 'fat', but overweight was too long to fit in the title.
I keep seeing so many threads about people who eat 'clean', avoid processed sugar, follow their hunger signs etc, and it seems so easy for them.
My question to those people is... if your relationship with food is so healthy... how did you get overweight in the first place?
I mean, I got fat because I love food, I'm obsessed with food (notice I didn't use 'addicted'), and it's just a huge part of my life. All my life I've just eaten what I wanted when I wanted it... I don't remember my parents ever telling me I couldn't have something. I just helped myself. I don't think I'll ever be able to just see food as sustenance... it's a pleasure. I've got much better at moderation and trying to make the most of my calories (taste-wise... I don't exactly meet my macros every day, lol), but I don't think the desire to eat more tasty food will ever go away. I'm aware it's going to be a life-long struggle.
Just really curious about this (and probably a bit jealous, lol. I wish I was one of those people for whom losing weight was easy).
Edited for bad, bad grammar.
Great post, but the "clean police" are dragging it into the toilet.
My personal story-I got squishy when I stopped exercising but didn't stop eating as if I still was. I spent many years eating everything and anything in sight. From clean/healthy foods to the nastiest processed garbage, and everything in between. I had little to no issues remaining lean and healthy. An entire pizza, no problem. All you can eat buffets..gladly!
Fast forward to a few years after stopping almost all designated exercise (although I did lead an active life) and gaining about 15 pounds and making a decision to "eat better". Slowly over months, if not a year or more, I chose to make better decisions with what I ate and keep my portions in check. A gradual replacement to eating more and more whole/real foods and less processed items & less junk. As I did so I noticed I had more energy thru out the day and my digestive system was no longer a complete wreck. I didn't go to extremes or arbitrarily exclude specific foods. But as I went along I also stopped wanting to put garbage into my body anymore. I've always liked cooking so creating delicious meals from scratch was fun, I've never ever felt deprived or that I had to eat bland food to be healthy. I still have a giant sweet tooth, but I reign it in. And when I do eat some homemade cookies or ice cream, I don't care because the vast majority of the rest of my diet & exercise allows for wiggle room.
In short making a shift towards "clean eating" or more accurately described as predominantly eating whole, real foods has not been as much about weight as it has been about health & energy. And now I can't even imagine wanting to fuel my body on garbage processed foods.0 -
I have always eaten mostly home made meals, made from scratch, including vegetables. I did not gain "so much", I am just over the edge of overweight, but I still feel it and I don't look as good as I could. I don't want to get to my ideal weight on the charts of 120, but 135 would be great, and that is over 20 pounds away. Comfortable cushion away from overweight, as I see it.
So a bit of this was yearly creep up in weight. And lately...I have to wonder if it has been antibiotics. I have taken them a few times in the last few years and it seems like my weight has gone up around those times, and been hard to get back down. And before poo-pooing me, know that the commercial chicken and other meats are routinely given antibiotics not to keep them from being sick but to have them put on weight faster.
And, it may also be that I am at "that age" where women more easily put on weight due to change in metabolism.
But I will continue to eat well, because that is how I was raised. It is cheap, not that hard, and tastes better than boxed stuff.0 -
I don't find it particularly hard to "eat clean," or at least eat within my calorie/macro limits, but it's way easier to eat....dirty? Ha! But yeah, eating donuts and chocolate all day would be awesome and really easy, but the results you see eating that way are nowhere near as gratifying as the ones you see when you control your intake and make healthier choices.
It wasn't always easy to eat this way. Like anything else, it had to become a habit to become easy. And a lot of people are surprised at how easy it is once they do it. I've gotten to the point where I'm not tempted to dive into all the treats and birthday cakes that end up in our break room every week.
It's always going to be hard at first. You just have to stick with it and reap the benefits, and then resisting the urge to eat everything in sight won't be nearly as hard as it is now. I also love food, and I manage to eat "unhealthy" foods and still lose weight. It's all about moderation (how cliche is that?).0 -
Hi,Apologies for using 'fat', but overweight was too long to fit in the title.
I keep seeing so many threads about people who eat 'clean', avoid processed sugar, follow their hunger signs etc, and it seems so easy for them.
My question to those people is... if your relationship with food is so healthy... how did you get overweight in the first place?
Fat is a fine word.
People who eat clean get fat too. The ones you've come into contact with maintain their weight because they are eating at their maintenance level, not because they eat clean.
Also, just because someone eats clean does not mean they have a healthy relationship with food.
I only eat clean with respect to washing my fruits and vegetables prior to consumption. Other than this, I eat what i want but I stay within my calorie goals.0 -
I started eating clean recently. I got fat after eating boxes of brownies, bags of cookies, 3 sandwiches in a day, anything and everything from the frozen section, pasta (mac and cheese and those sidekick type of things), chicken fingers, cheese and crackers (not in moderation), and eating fast food almost every day.
So eating clean made me lose weight because I'm not eating so much cr@p. 57lbs lost in 5.5 months. Yea I'll stick to eating clean.
actually it was a calorie deficet that made you lose weight....
sorry eating "clean" is a buzz word and will have no impact on weight loss if you don't do it in moderation too...
The difference is the calorie deficit is a result of eating clean. If you're eating to satiety and eating 'dirty' you'll eat a lot more than if you eat clean.
In the end, there is a caloric deficiency and that's why the weight is lost but it's not a forced deficiency and that makes a huge difference.
People only have so much willpower. If you're only staying under your calories because you stop yourself from eating (even when you're hungry), then you're going to go right back up once you stop counting calories.
People always say 'oh you'd gain weight if you ate 4000 calories/day of clean foods". Yes, that might be right, but good luck trying to reach that eating meat and vegetables. I could probably eat that in one meal going to McDonald's.
This also doesn't take into consideration the effect on BMR (and there's some good evidence that if you're hungry, your body is telling you you should eat, and if you don't eat, it negatively affects your BMR)
You can eat "dirty" and still have the deficet...esp based on my understanding of clean eating.
I can eat 6oz of chicken fingers and a salad from Dairy queen and be just as full from that as I can be from eating 6oz of chicken at home...
and eating over maintenance regardless of how you do it cause weight gain..there is no might about it.
I can easily eat "dirty" food everyday and still manage to hit my macros and stay in a reasonable deficet everyday...and I am never hungry...
It's all about moderation...clean eating is a buzz word...and no amount of debate will change the fact that you can get fat eating clean just as easy as eating "dirty" and if you can eat 4000 calories in one sitting at MacDonalds and you aren't full...wow...
a quarter pounder blt has 600 calories...that is a filling burger, add a salad into that and it's at maybe 700 calories...not sure what you plan on adding to that to get to 4000 calories but it would personally make me puke.
I did a calculation on McDonald's site.
An angus burger, a large fry, a milkshake, and a turnover are 2730 calories (more than I generally net in a day). I could eat that. I'm not saying I wouldn't be full. I would be, but I could eat it without much of a problem.
I'm also not saying you must 'eat clean' to eat at a deficit and lose weight or that it's not possible to gain weight and eat clean. What I'm saying it makes it easier for many people (me included) because of how much more filling quality food is.
I remember buying lean cuisines and low-fat crackers trying to lose weight and always being hungry. I'd 'crack' all the time and would end up bingeing on entire frozen pizzas. "I'll make it and eat just two slices to stay under my calories" I would say and before I knew it, I'd devoured an entire pizza which was 2000 calories.
Beyond weight loss as well there are huge benefits to getting plenty of vegetables and proteins into your system.
Why do you have to get a large fry? A small is perfectly satisfying. I on occasion get a 6 piece nugget and a small fry and easily fit it into my day. It's moderation.
Because I can and you get better value by ordering a large fry.
I'm not saying that you can't lose weight if you eat McDonald's regularly. I'm saying that it's much easier if you're eating real food.
6 McNuggets, a medium fry, and a medium coke is 860 calories; eating that, I would be starving 2 hours later. That is not near enough food for me in a meal (and only has 19g of protein!).0 -
I started eating clean recently. I got fat after eating boxes of brownies, bags of cookies, 3 sandwiches in a day, anything and everything from the frozen section, pasta (mac and cheese and those sidekick type of things), chicken fingers, cheese and crackers (not in moderation), and eating fast food almost every day.
So eating clean made me lose weight because I'm not eating so much cr@p. 57lbs lost in 5.5 months. Yea I'll stick to eating clean.
actually it was a calorie deficet that made you lose weight....
sorry eating "clean" is a buzz word and will have no impact on weight loss if you don't do it in moderation too...
The difference is the calorie deficit is a result of eating clean. If you're eating to satiety and eating 'dirty' you'll eat a lot more than if you eat clean.
In the end, there is a caloric deficiency and that's why the weight is lost but it's not a forced deficiency and that makes a huge difference.
People only have so much willpower. If you're only staying under your calories because you stop yourself from eating (even when you're hungry), then you're going to go right back up once you stop counting calories.
People always say 'oh you'd gain weight if you ate 4000 calories/day of clean foods". Yes, that might be right, but good luck trying to reach that eating meat and vegetables. I could probably eat that in one meal going to McDonald's.
This also doesn't take into consideration the effect on BMR (and there's some good evidence that if you're hungry, your body is telling you you should eat, and if you don't eat, it negatively affects your BMR)
You can eat "dirty" and still have the deficet...esp based on my understanding of clean eating.
I can eat 6oz of chicken fingers and a salad from Dairy queen and be just as full from that as I can be from eating 6oz of chicken at home...
and eating over maintenance regardless of how you do it cause weight gain..there is no might about it.
I can easily eat "dirty" food everyday and still manage to hit my macros and stay in a reasonable deficet everyday...and I am never hungry...
It's all about moderation...clean eating is a buzz word...and no amount of debate will change the fact that you can get fat eating clean just as easy as eating "dirty" and if you can eat 4000 calories in one sitting at MacDonalds and you aren't full...wow...
a quarter pounder blt has 600 calories...that is a filling burger, add a salad into that and it's at maybe 700 calories...not sure what you plan on adding to that to get to 4000 calories but it would personally make me puke.
I did a calculation on McDonald's site.
An angus burger, a large fry, a milkshake, and a turnover are 2730 calories (more than I generally net in a day). I could eat that. I'm not saying I wouldn't be full. I would be, but I could eat it without much of a problem.
I'm also not saying you must 'eat clean' to eat at a deficit and lose weight or that it's not possible to gain weight and eat clean. What I'm saying it makes it easier for many people (me included) because of how much more filling quality food is.
I remember buying lean cuisines and low-fat crackers trying to lose weight and always being hungry. I'd 'crack' all the time and would end up bingeing on entire frozen pizzas. "I'll make it and eat just two slices to stay under my calories" I would say and before I knew it, I'd devoured an entire pizza which was 2000 calories.
Beyond weight loss as well there are huge benefits to getting plenty of vegetables and proteins into your system.
Why do you have to get a large fry? A small is perfectly satisfying. I on occasion get a 6 piece nugget and a small fry and easily fit it into my day. It's moderation.
Because I can and you get better value by ordering a large fry.
I'm not saying that you can't lose weight if you eat McDonald's regularly. I'm saying that it's much easier if you're eating real food.
6 McNuggets, a medium fry, and a medium coke is 860 calories; eating that, I would be starving 2 hours later. That is not near enough food for me in a meal (and only has 19g of protein!).
I guess it comes down to what you as an individual get full on. I get sated on much less than you, therefore less calories. (Also, I don't drink soda, so there's always that too.) 0 -
I only eat fast food once a week (if that), barely eat out at restaurants, I cook protein veg brown rice/carb side most days of the week. I gained weight because I eat too much of this food. Last night I made roasted veggies and those thin pork chops (marinated, not fried in any oil). All good until you eat 2 pork chops, etc. My dinner was healthy, I just eat too much food. I don't binge on cookies and brownies, I do eat chips, from a bowl not straight from the bag. I eat too much lunch and too much dinner. That's how I got "fat".0
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I have always said exercise is the easy part, eating clean is the hardest part of losing weight. we say eat clean as a constant reminder to people so through repetition we might be able to program it into our brains that is what we are to do. it's not because it's easy, it isn't easy for me now and it won't be easy for me tomorrow.0
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As stated allready I pretty much ate whatever whenever call it ignorance no clue on nutrition or TDEE or BMR or pretty much anything in regards to food and excercise. Now I try to stick to whole foods foods with one ingredient and I still eat other types of foods cookies icecream cake brownies but I try to do it in moderation and not a whole tub of icecream in one evening or a whole package of oreos in one sitting (for the record I still have been known to do this) But thats why I dont buy that stuff becouse I will eat it. All of it then want to go to the store to buy more. call it what you will.0
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I started eating clean recently. I got fat after eating boxes of brownies, bags of cookies, 3 sandwiches in a day, anything and everything from the frozen section, pasta (mac and cheese and those sidekick type of things), chicken fingers, cheese and crackers (not in moderation), and eating fast food almost every day.
So eating clean made me lose weight because I'm not eating so much cr@p. 57lbs lost in 5.5 months. Yea I'll stick to eating clean.
actually it was a calorie deficet that made you lose weight....
sorry eating "clean" is a buzz word and will have no impact on weight loss if you don't do it in moderation too...
The difference is the calorie deficit is a result of eating clean. If you're eating to satiety and eating 'dirty' you'll eat a lot more than if you eat clean.
In the end, there is a caloric deficiency and that's why the weight is lost but it's not a forced deficiency and that makes a huge difference.
People only have so much willpower. If you're only staying under your calories because you stop yourself from eating (even when you're hungry), then you're going to go right back up once you stop counting calories.
People always say 'oh you'd gain weight if you ate 4000 calories/day of clean foods". Yes, that might be right, but good luck trying to reach that eating meat and vegetables. I could probably eat that in one meal going to McDonald's.
This also doesn't take into consideration the effect on BMR (and there's some good evidence that if you're hungry, your body is telling you you should eat, and if you don't eat, it negatively affects your BMR)
^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^
I don' always find it 'easy' to eat clean, but I do find it WAY easier to stay within my kcal limits and macros when I do.0 -
I just came in to say:
The concept of avoiding certain "bad" food is the reason I never tried dieting before. There is no way in hell that I will ever label foods as "good" or "bad."
Now to make up for my rant, here's a cat eating pancakes:
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In order to not write a novel I honestly believe it links back to fat people realizing they can generally eat a greater quantity of food when they eat clean vs when the don't and still be within the same caloric parameters.
Like, I can get a meal from McDonalds for lunch that would be 1200+ cals but if I spend more time carefully choosing what most consider clean then for that same amount of calories I can have enough food that will keep me full from breakfast all the way until dinner time.
Also, fat is not bad word. Use it freely.0 -
And I'm sure I need to eat much more than you as well.Why do you have to get a large fry? A small is perfectly satisfying. I on occasion get a 6 piece nugget and a small fry and easily fit it into my day. It's moderation.
Because I can and you get better value by ordering a large fry.
I'm not saying that you can't lose weight if you eat McDonald's regularly. I'm saying that it's much easier if you're eating real food.
6 McNuggets, a medium fry, and a medium coke is 860 calories; eating that, I would be starving 2 hours later. That is not near enough food for me in a meal (and only has 19g of protein!).
I guess it comes down to what you as an individual get full on. I get sated on much less than you, therefore less calories. (Also, I don't drink soda, so there's always that too.)
Give me a big steak, and some stir-fried veggies and I'd be full until dinner at fewer calories than that little McDonald's meal.
You don't drink soda. Does that make it easier for you to lose weight? Would it be impossible for someone to lose weight if they had soda? Why not just have soda in moderation?
It's the same conversation that people have regarding eating clean but about not drinking soda. You can have soda every day and still lose weight, but it makes it more difficult; just as you can eat chocolate bars or chips every day (in moderation) and still lose weight but it makes it more difficult.0 -
I am more curious about those who " eat 1000 calories and full" while having 100 pounds to lose...I am a slight case of food addiction so I know why I can't lose weight...0
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Even clean foods can be high in calories and fat, you eat too much don't exercise and you gain weight.0
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It's kinda like when people get on here to lose weight then say they have a hard time eating 1,200 calories. Yeah? You became overweight or obese eating 800 a day? You were probably eating closer to 2,500-3,000 a day. I think you can manage 1,200.0
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I personally try to eat clean because, in the long run, eating fast food or t.v. dinner or whatever is ultimately bad for, even if you can lose weight doing it. Sure, you can lose weight, but in the end that processed stuff, along with whatever other bad habits you have, will probably lead to something like high blood pressure or heart disease. I don't think eating clean and being fat have to be mutually exclusive. Sometimes we cook terrific tasting clean food... and I eat too much... and I get fat.
OP, I dig your honesty with your love for food. Sometimes I feel like food and alcohol are my biggest pleasures (aside from sweet, sweet naughty time) and I don't think it's ever going to change. Like you, I'm trying my best to work on moderation. I eat as cleanly as possible, because most of the time I don't eat all that clean.0 -
I am more curious about those who " eat 1000 calories and full" while having 100 pounds to lose...I am a slight case of food addiction so I know why I can't lose weight...
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For me it was simple portion control and a seditary life style.0
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I am more curious about those who " eat 1000 calories and full" while having 100 pounds to lose...I am a slight case of food addiction so I know why I can't lose weight...
Ya, I honestly think those people are lying to themselves. I can't imagine overweight people not being able to eat 1200 calories.
That or they've starved themselves for so long that their metabolism is so damaged that it's barely burning anything.0 -
My diet before actively trying to lose weight was for the most part what people on here would call "clean eating". I just ate way too much. I have always been able to put away a lot food. I don't really like a lot of processed food, don't really eat fast food and prefer savory to sweet food for the most part. I have always loved eating until I am stuffed but I am learning to be satisfied with less. For me it was a change in quantity I needed not quality.
This describes me exactly. I love to cook. I rarely buy anything packaged. I make my own bread, my own crackers, my own granola. I can't imagine a situation in which I would eat fast food--the smell of it turns my stomach. I'm not a vegan or a vegetarian, but I love the challenge of vegan baking. But long story short, I was eating too much, and I had the mindset that since I worked out, I could eat as much as I wanted. I packed it on slowly, but I packed it on.0 -
I am more curious about those who " eat 1000 calories and full" while having 100 pounds to lose...I am a slight case of food addiction so I know why I can't lose weight...
Ya, I honestly think those people are lying to themselves. I can't imagine overweight people not being able to eat 1200 calories.
That or they've starved themselves for so long that their metabolism is so damaged that it's barely burning anything.
I have a friend who swears by eating clean making her lose weight...The fact is every time she goes on diet, she cuts out pizza, brownie, and other "junk food" she called. But I am tired of explaining to her why she loses weight because she insists that it's eating clean the key to weight loss while carbs make her gain weight...oh well...0
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