MFP Encourages "Convenience" Nutrition
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I lost 32 pounds on WW and never ate processed, packaged foods or felt pressured to do so.I agree that WW pushes processed, packaged foods. I came to MFP because I can incorporate almost any food into my daily diary, barcode or not. I don't eat out as much as I used to but when I do it is really great to find nutritional information here.
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There isn't a website available that will do that for you. However, I have bought green bell peppers that were the size of two apples and green bell peppers that were the size of a peach. So which one would be correct in your scenario?Yes, 100% This is the reason I no longer log my food. When you eat a variety of home prepared foods from whole ingredients this site is not user friendly for logging meals.
I'm not really sure what you want. You're cooking your own foods and I assume these are recipes you're putting together, no?
What kind of website is available elsewhere that knows what's in your personal recipe before you input it?
All whole, unprocessed foods are available in the MFP database, but it can't preopoulate specific ingredients and amounts without user input. And if it could, I would be kind of frightened.
What do I want? Well, in my perfect world I would type in "green bell pepper" and have one entry come up and tell me the nutritional composition of the average green bell pepper.
Both. The entries would be by weight, of course.
ETA: actually there is a website that does that, but it does not allow logging.0 -
Obviously MFP is in cahoots with all the evil processed "big food" conglomerates and secretly they are brainwashing people to eat fast food and frozen dinners. Wake up and smell the Waffle Taco people!
^ this.
it's not well known, but MFP was co-founded by Sauron.0 -
I don't feel that way, but I did feel that way about WW. That's why I quit WW and came over to MFP.
I think that it's just easier to get calorie counts and nutrition information from labeled foods. I have been able to put in my own recipes, too, though.
I agree about WW and their points system. The point system is rigged so that you can eat a Fiber One granola bar and say "Oh this is good for me. It has the same points a s a banana or an apple!" or eat one of those lousy Smart Ones dinners and think you're eating healthy.0 -
Which is my point. You want to log these things. Well, make your own database within MFP using those resources (though I have found MFP isn't as difficult as you claim) and you'll have them available when you need them.
There isn't a website available that will do that for you. However, I have bought green bell peppers that were the size of two apples and green bell peppers that were the size of a peach. So which one would be correct in your scenario?Yes, 100% This is the reason I no longer log my food. When you eat a variety of home prepared foods from whole ingredients this site is not user friendly for logging meals.
I'm not really sure what you want. You're cooking your own foods and I assume these are recipes you're putting together, no?
What kind of website is available elsewhere that knows what's in your personal recipe before you input it?
All whole, unprocessed foods are available in the MFP database, but it can't preopoulate specific ingredients and amounts without user input. And if it could, I would be kind of frightened.
What do I want? Well, in my perfect world I would type in "green bell pepper" and have one entry come up and tell me the nutritional composition of the average green bell pepper.
Both. The entries would be by weight, of course.
ETA: actually there is a website that does that, but it does not allow logging.
So simple.
You've been here long enough to know how to do that and have it well "stocked."
Or you can just keep bashing this place without doing anything about it while continuing to come every single day just to argue and complain. It's your choice, really.0 -
Clearly, you all missed some key aspects of WW, which is kind of your own fault and not the program's. Did you never hear of the GHGs?I don't feel that way, but I did feel that way about WW. That's why I quit WW and came over to MFP.
I think that it's just easier to get calorie counts and nutrition information from labeled foods. I have been able to put in my own recipes, too, though.
I agree about WW and their points system. The point system is rigged so that you can eat a Fiber One granola bar and say "Oh this is good for me. It has the same points a s a banana or an apple!" or eat one of those lousy Smart Ones dinners and think you're eating healthy.0 -
There isn't a website available that will do that for you. However, I have bought green bell peppers that were the size of two apples and green bell peppers that were the size of a peach. So which one would be correct in your scenario?Yes, 100% This is the reason I no longer log my food. When you eat a variety of home prepared foods from whole ingredients this site is not user friendly for logging meals.
I'm not really sure what you want. You're cooking your own foods and I assume these are recipes you're putting together, no?
What kind of website is available elsewhere that knows what's in your personal recipe before you input it?
All whole, unprocessed foods are available in the MFP database, but it can't preopoulate specific ingredients and amounts without user input. And if it could, I would be kind of frightened.
What do I want? Well, in my perfect world I would type in "green bell pepper" and have one entry come up and tell me the nutritional composition of the average green bell pepper.
Both. The entries would be by weight, of course.
ETA: actually there is a website that does that, but it does not allow logging.
Since a bell pepper is a type of sweet pepper, I just use the sweet green pepper entry. It is the first one without an asterisk that pops up when you enter "pepper green raw".
Then is is broken out to cups (sliced or chopped), large, medium, one ring, 1 small, 10 strips or 100 grams.0 -
Which is my point. You want to log these things. Well, make your own database within MFP using those resources (though I have found MFP isn't as difficult as you claim) and you'll have them available when you need them.
There isn't a website available that will do that for you. However, I have bought green bell peppers that were the size of two apples and green bell peppers that were the size of a peach. So which one would be correct in your scenario?Yes, 100% This is the reason I no longer log my food. When you eat a variety of home prepared foods from whole ingredients this site is not user friendly for logging meals.
I'm not really sure what you want. You're cooking your own foods and I assume these are recipes you're putting together, no?
What kind of website is available elsewhere that knows what's in your personal recipe before you input it?
All whole, unprocessed foods are available in the MFP database, but it can't preopoulate specific ingredients and amounts without user input. And if it could, I would be kind of frightened.
What do I want? Well, in my perfect world I would type in "green bell pepper" and have one entry come up and tell me the nutritional composition of the average green bell pepper.
Both. The entries would be by weight, of course.
ETA: actually there is a website that does that, but it does not allow logging.
So simple.
You've been here long enough to know how to do that and have it well "stocked."
Or you can just keep bashing this place without doing anything about it while continuing to come every single day just to argue and complain. It's your choice, really.
Oh Geez!! Now my only choices are to log on MFP or bash it every day?? That hardly seems fair.0 -
I kind of feel the oppisite. The site is making me aware when I go through my diary that the pre-packaged stuff is where most of my sodium and sugar comes from so I start looking for non-processed alternatives.
This is me too. When I started I was logging a lot more restaurant and packaged foods. See the numbers add up was a big reminder that I needed to eat at home more. I use the recipe tool and look up raw ingredients. I don't find it a burden at all.0 -
That's what you do, though.Oh Geez!! Now my only choices are to log on MFP or bash it every day?? That hardly seems fair.
You come here daily to argue and complain but you stopped logging. So ...0 -
I think you get out of this site what you want to take the time to put into it. I have found it remarkably easy to use. Putting in my recipes and getting accurate calorie counts. I have had great success with this site for two years. I honestly owe my success to the ease of use of this site.0
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There isn't a website available that will do that for you. However, I have bought green bell peppers that were the size of two apples and green bell peppers that were the size of a peach. So which one would be correct in your scenario?Yes, 100% This is the reason I no longer log my food. When you eat a variety of home prepared foods from whole ingredients this site is not user friendly for logging meals.
I'm not really sure what you want. You're cooking your own foods and I assume these are recipes you're putting together, no?
What kind of website is available elsewhere that knows what's in your personal recipe before you input it?
All whole, unprocessed foods are available in the MFP database, but it can't preopoulate specific ingredients and amounts without user input. And if it could, I would be kind of frightened.
What do I want? Well, in my perfect world I would type in "green bell pepper" and have one entry come up and tell me the nutritional composition of the average green bell pepper.
Both. The entries would be by weight, of course.
ETA: actually there is a website that does that, but it does not allow logging.
So having it the first entry of several, and the only one marked as being non-user entered is too difficult for you?
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I haven't had that problem, but really, I am not going to stress most fruits and veggies. You're quibbling over a difference of 6 or 7 calories in some cases.0
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I literally just found out yesterday that my phone has a scanner thing. So all this time I have been logging the old fashioned way.
I know about the scanner but I prefer to log on PC.
I don't know why. *shrug*0 -
I literally just found out yesterday that my phone has a scanner thing. So all this time I have been logging the old fashioned way.
I know about the scanner but I prefer to log on PC.
I don't know why. *shrug*
I'm the opposite, :laugh: I go to my phone if possible. I think it's just because it is what I am used to.
I haven't been able to use my scanner in awhile. Its all blurry and doesn't read it. I never bothered to see what the issue was or tried to fix it.0 -
There isn't a website available that will do that for you. However, I have bought green bell peppers that were the size of two apples and green bell peppers that were the size of a peach. So which one would be correct in your scenario?Yes, 100% This is the reason I no longer log my food. When you eat a variety of home prepared foods from whole ingredients this site is not user friendly for logging meals.
I'm not really sure what you want. You're cooking your own foods and I assume these are recipes you're putting together, no?
What kind of website is available elsewhere that knows what's in your personal recipe before you input it?
All whole, unprocessed foods are available in the MFP database, but it can't preopoulate specific ingredients and amounts without user input. And if it could, I would be kind of frightened.
What do I want? Well, in my perfect world I would type in "green bell pepper" and have one entry come up and tell me the nutritional composition of the average green bell pepper.
Both. The entries would be by weight, of course.
ETA: actually there is a website that does that, but it does not allow logging.
So having it the first entry of several, and the only one marked as being non-user entered is too difficult for you?
If I type in "green bell pepper", approx. 104 entries come up. ALL have asterisks, 9 are labelled ‘USDA’. If I type ‘green bell pepper raw’ I do get the non-user entry.
Seriously, I’m okay with not logging. I know the tricks. I still find it overly cumbersome. And I have the right to agree with someone else that finds it cumbersome.0 -
MFP is a tool to use and you get out of it exactly what you put into it, if you are too lazy to weigh and log your food accurately who's fault is that? It takes me about 5 minutes to log my food for the day maybe 10 if I'm multitasking. Took me longer to backspace my snarky response to this than entering my food
I just glanced at a couple of days of your diary, but most of the foods were packaged foods which, as the OP pointed out, are easy to log.
I just glanced at a couple of days of your diary, but they were all blank.
Yeah, I covered that earlier. I stopped logging because it was taking too much time. I need that time for the forums.
Time well spent.0 -
That's what you do, though.Oh Geez!! Now my only choices are to log on MFP or bash it every day?? That hardly seems fair.
You come here daily to argue and complain but you stopped logging. So ...
Argue, sure. Guilty. Complain, not often, certainly not daily. I don't use MFP for food logging. Sue me.0 -
I literally just found out yesterday that my phone has a scanner thing. So all this time I have been logging the old fashioned way.
I know about the scanner but I prefer to log on PC.
I don't know why. *shrug*
I'm the opposite, :laugh: I go to my phone if possible. I think it's just because it is what I am used to.
I haven't been able to use my scanner in awhile. Its all blurry and doesn't read it. I never bothered to see what the issue was or tried to fix it.
Maybe that's it. I started on PC and when I found the app I thought "oh, that's kinda cool" and then never used it again. Unless I have to change the amount in a recipe. :grumble:0 -
The obvious solution is to eat the exact same thing for every meal for the rest of your life, so all you have to do is copy it from one day to the next.
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There isn't a website available that will do that for you. However, I have bought green bell peppers that were the size of two apples and green bell peppers that were the size of a peach. So which one would be correct in your scenario?Yes, 100% This is the reason I no longer log my food. When you eat a variety of home prepared foods from whole ingredients this site is not user friendly for logging meals.
I'm not really sure what you want. You're cooking your own foods and I assume these are recipes you're putting together, no?
What kind of website is available elsewhere that knows what's in your personal recipe before you input it?
All whole, unprocessed foods are available in the MFP database, but it can't preopoulate specific ingredients and amounts without user input. And if it could, I would be kind of frightened.
What do I want? Well, in my perfect world I would type in "green bell pepper" and have one entry come up and tell me the nutritional composition of the average green bell pepper.
Both. The entries would be by weight, of course.
ETA: actually there is a website that does that, but it does not allow logging.
So having it the first entry of several, and the only one marked as being non-user entered is too difficult for you?
If I type in "green bell pepper", approx. 104 entries come up. ALL have asterisks, 9 are labelled ‘USDA’. If I type ‘green bell pepper raw’ I do get the non-user entry.
Seriously, I’m okay with not logging. I know the tricks. I still find it overly cumbersome. And I have the right to agree with someone else that finds it cumbersome.
It is listed as a "sweet pepper", not a "bell pepper". This makes it more inclusive. You obviously don't know all the tricks if you weren't able to figure that out.0 -
There isn't a website available that will do that for you. However, I have bought green bell peppers that were the size of two apples and green bell peppers that were the size of a peach. So which one would be correct in your scenario?Yes, 100% This is the reason I no longer log my food. When you eat a variety of home prepared foods from whole ingredients this site is not user friendly for logging meals.
I'm not really sure what you want. You're cooking your own foods and I assume these are recipes you're putting together, no?
What kind of website is available elsewhere that knows what's in your personal recipe before you input it?
All whole, unprocessed foods are available in the MFP database, but it can't preopoulate specific ingredients and amounts without user input. And if it could, I would be kind of frightened.
What do I want? Well, in my perfect world I would type in "green bell pepper" and have one entry come up and tell me the nutritional composition of the average green bell pepper.
Both. The entries would be by weight, of course.
ETA: actually there is a website that does that, but it does not allow logging.
So having it the first entry of several, and the only one marked as being non-user entered is too difficult for you?
If I type in "green bell pepper", approx. 104 entries come up. ALL have asterisks, 9 are labelled ‘USDA’. If I type ‘green bell pepper raw’ I do get the non-user entry.
Seriously, I’m okay with not logging. I know the tricks. I still find it overly cumbersome. And I have the right to agree with someone else that finds it cumbersome.
It is listed as a "sweet pepper", not a "bell pepper". This makes it more inclusive. You obviously don't know all the tricks if you weren't able to figure that out.
Garsh, you is so smart and I is so dum. If only I's cud be more like u. :sad:0 -
Obviously MFP is in cahoots with all the evil processed "big food" conglomerates and secretly they are brainwashing people to eat fast food and frozen dinners. Wake up and smell the Waffle Taco people!
:laugh:
SRS
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I literally just found out yesterday that my phone has a scanner thing. So all this time I have been logging the old fashioned way.
I know about the scanner but I prefer to log on PC.
I don't know why. *shrug*
I'm the opposite, :laugh: I go to my phone if possible. I think it's just because it is what I am used to.
I haven't been able to use my scanner in awhile. Its all blurry and doesn't read it. I never bothered to see what the issue was or tried to fix it.
Maybe that's it. I started on PC and when I found the app I thought "oh, that's kinda cool" and then never used it again. Unless I have to change the amount in a recipe. :grumble:
And I'm one of those old fogies who only know how to PC and doesn't own one of those "take-it-everywhere" phones. :laugh:0 -
There isn't a website available that will do that for you. However, I have bought green bell peppers that were the size of two apples and green bell peppers that were the size of a peach. So which one would be correct in your scenario?Yes, 100% This is the reason I no longer log my food. When you eat a variety of home prepared foods from whole ingredients this site is not user friendly for logging meals.
I'm not really sure what you want. You're cooking your own foods and I assume these are recipes you're putting together, no?
What kind of website is available elsewhere that knows what's in your personal recipe before you input it?
All whole, unprocessed foods are available in the MFP database, but it can't preopoulate specific ingredients and amounts without user input. And if it could, I would be kind of frightened.
What do I want? Well, in my perfect world I would type in "green bell pepper" and have one entry come up and tell me the nutritional composition of the average green bell pepper.
Both. The entries would be by weight, of course.
ETA: actually there is a website that does that, but it does not allow logging.
So having it the first entry of several, and the only one marked as being non-user entered is too difficult for you?
If I type in "green bell pepper", approx. 104 entries come up. ALL have asterisks, 9 are labelled ‘USDA’. If I type ‘green bell pepper raw’ I do get the non-user entry.
Seriously, I’m okay with not logging. I know the tricks. I still find it overly cumbersome. And I have the right to agree with someone else that finds it cumbersome.
It is listed as a "sweet pepper", not a "bell pepper". This makes it more inclusive. You obviously don't know all the tricks if you weren't able to figure that out.
Garsh, you is so smart and I is so dum. If only I's cud be more like u. :sad:
If you say so.
It's okay that you don't feel the need to log. When I first started using this website, I was a bit confused too because it is so much easier when things are handed to me and organized in a way that is logical to me. Once you figure out the logic behind the entries, it really isn't all that cumbersome.0 -
the MFP database is user driven.
there for it is a reflection of users eating habbits.
the site doesn't promote anything other then the advertizements you see. I suggests a recommended calorie range. thats about it.0 -
... Now if only the recipe builder would let me change ingredient quantities or copy recipes to alter (I cook similar things a lot), then I would be a very happy cook indeed.
That would be the most amazing thing! I hardly ever follow a recipe when I cook. (Which will happen once I get out of this "survival" mode and start cooking our meals again.) And that is the only problem I ever had, switching eggs for bananas, adding pumpkin, other substitutions. That's the only time I ever get annoyed with entering on MFP, though, as others have said, it really is just the nature of tracking calories.
+2. If any MFP techie people are reading this, I would love this as well. It's a pain to have to re-enter an entire macaroni and cheese recipe or lose the original recipe just because my regular brand of cheese wasn't available at the store and I had to use a different one.0 -
So does a pen. Or a spreadsheet.Does anyone else fell like this site lends itself to prepackaged foods and/or commercial dining? It's easier to get nutritional information from those sources but you're really doing a disservice to your health!
Care to explain why it would be "doing a disservice to your health" to include prepackaged food and/or commercial dining in your diet?0 -
It's okay that you don't feel the need to log. When I first started using this website, I was a bit confused too because it is so much easier when things are handed to me and organized in a way that is logical to me. Once you figure out the logic behind the entries, it really isn't all that cumbersome.
You meant it really isn't all that cumbersome for you, which is awesome (not sarcasm). I found it cumbersome. Obviously, we have different levels of tolerance for this sort of thing. Maybe because I know I can do it without this tool. If I needed it, I suppose it would be worth more effort.
I feel I need MFP for fitness. The challenges and my friends keep me focused on that. But diet, I can do that on my own.0 -
So does a pen. Or a spreadsheet.Does anyone else fell like this site lends itself to prepackaged foods and/or commercial dining? It's easier to get nutritional information from those sources but you're really doing a disservice to your health!
Care to explain why it would be "doing a disservice to your health" to include prepackaged food and/or commercial dining in your diet?
I don't think the OP will care to explain, she deactivated a few pages back.0
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