MFP Encourages "Convenience" Nutrition
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I am lazy. I admit it. I LIKE packaged foods because it's just QUICKER and EASIER to log them.
However, this site DOES have a recipe feature which DOES make it easier to track your food... if you're not a lazy butt, like me. :P
So no... I don't think the site caters to anything or anyone except those who want to track their food intake and exercise output.0 -
I don't feel that way, but I did feel that way about WW. That's why I quit WW and came over to MFP.
I get your point re MFP, OP. However, I concur with the person above and think most programs like WW are worse. When I was in WW, all they focused on was how to eat processed snack foods with less calories to get your treats in. I like that I have a holistic approach to eating now, and while it does take more time, I enter my own recipes into my data base and eat what I like/what's good for my body and soul.0 -
So does a pen. Or a spreadsheet.Does anyone else fell like this site lends itself to prepackaged foods and/or commercial dining? It's easier to get nutritional information from those sources but you're really doing a disservice to your health!
Care to explain why it would be "doing a disservice to your health" to include prepackaged food and/or commercial dining in your diet?
I don't think the OP will care to explain, she deactivated a few pages back.
well i, for one, am totally shocked that the OP took the easy way out
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Well feelings like this happen if you are being a lazy person. I freely admit its a pain in the *kitten* sometimes, and I get too lazy to put in accurate info. But that's because *I'm* too lazy to use the tool correctly.
The MFP database is another topic though, it could use major overhaul and the abilities to both "vote down" or alter bad entries so you don't see them anymore, and to change recipes easily to make things more convenient. Its still better than nothing, or finding and putting them all in myself, even though its infuriating that it wont allow me to be as lazy as I'd like and just click a few clicks and have my foods all there.
Again: if you do a little bit of work, its great, if you are too lazy to do it, maybe not so much. But that's all on you, not the tool. Maybe if you are feeling extra specially lazy, you could be tempted to eat something packaged just so you don't have to find and enter fresh components I guess. But I think that's an extreme in sloth right there. Sounds like this is you sometimes, so try what I do occasionally instead when I'm feeling extra lazy: find something similar you have eaten in recent foods (yes you still have to use your brain and analyze components and estimate portion sizes) and click the box next to an appropriate serving of that for the meal. Not perfect, but its better than eating something out of a container so that you dont have to find and log fresh food, and prevents you from having to take a minute or two to estimate/record weights in your head while preparing, or getting off the couch for a couple minutes to look/scan/enter.0 -
I literally just found out yesterday that my phone has a scanner thing. So all this time I have been logging the old fashioned way.
I know about the scanner but I prefer to log on PC.
I don't know why. *shrug*
App logging>>>>>>>>>than the PC for me. If only because it lets me easily search the foods i've already used instead of making me either go thru 4 pages of entries or search the entire database and try to get the right entry again.
This site is very odd in that certain things you can only do on the app, and certain things you can only do on the PC version. And after each app update, good luck finding the right button combo to send a FR from the app. It's not very convenient. Not convenient at all.0 -
It's okay that you don't feel the need to log. When I first started using this website, I was a bit confused too because it is so much easier when things are handed to me and organized in a way that is logical to me. Once you figure out the logic behind the entries, it really isn't all that cumbersome.
You meant it really isn't all that cumbersome for you, which is awesome (not sarcasm). I found it cumbersome. Obviously, we have different levels of tolerance for this sort of thing. Maybe because I know I can do it without this tool. If I needed it, I suppose it would be worth more effort.
I feel I need MFP for fitness. The challenges and my friends keep me focused on that. But diet, I can do that on my own.
Anyone can do it without this tool. I've never been more than on the high side of my healthy weight. I do it because I find it interesting and fun and I have an interest of what I put in my body.
But you are being dishonest with yourself when you said that you figured out all the tricks, because you obviously didn't and got defensive when it was pointed out. I really wasn't trying to insult you.0 -
MFP is a tool to use and you get out of it exactly what you put into it, if you are too lazy to weigh and log your food accurately who's fault is that? It takes me about 5 minutes to log my food for the day maybe 10 if I'm multitasking. Took me longer to backspace my snarky response to this than entering my food
I just glanced at a couple of days of your diary, but most of the foods were packaged foods which, as the OP pointed out, are easy to log.
I just glanced at a couple of days of your diary, but they were all blank.
Ad hominem, Ad hominem, ad hominem.0 -
I literally just found out yesterday that my phone has a scanner thing. So all this time I have been logging the old fashioned way.
I know about the scanner but I prefer to log on PC.
I don't know why. *shrug*
App logging>>>>>>>>>than the PC for me. If only because it lets me easily search the foods i've already used instead of making me either go thru 4 pages of entries or search the entire database and try to get the right entry again.
This site is very odd in that certain things you can only do on the app, and certain things you can only do on the PC version. And after each app update, good luck finding the right button combo to send a FR from the app. It's not very convenient. Not convenient at all.
I agree that some things are easier on the PC and some easier on the app (like finding a previously used item). It is sort of funny.0 -
Bah - I at least checked she wasn't at 1 or 2 posts and that the post date wasn't a recently resurrected 3 year old necro threadI don't think the OP will care to explain, she deactivated a few pages back.
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I have been totally impressed with the huge database and the ease of logging!! MUCH better than Weight Watchers e-tools and even much better than SparkPeople!0
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It's okay that you don't feel the need to log. When I first started using this website, I was a bit confused too because it is so much easier when things are handed to me and organized in a way that is logical to me. Once you figure out the logic behind the entries, it really isn't all that cumbersome.
You meant it really isn't all that cumbersome for you, which is awesome (not sarcasm). I found it cumbersome. Obviously, we have different levels of tolerance for this sort of thing. Maybe because I know I can do it without this tool. If I needed it, I suppose it would be worth more effort.
I feel I need MFP for fitness. The challenges and my friends keep me focused on that. But diet, I can do that on my own.
Anyone can do it without this tool. I've never been more than on the high side of my healthy weight. I do it because I find it interesting and fun and I have an interest of what I put in my body.
But you are being dishonest with yourself when you said that you figured out all the tricks, because you obviously didn't and got defensive when it was pointed out. I really wasn't trying to insult you.
*sigh* Your comment: "You obviously don't know all the tricks if you weren't able to figure that out. " sounded pretty passive agressive to me. And I was getting pretty frustrated with everyone trying to tell me that the site isn't cumbersome, when obviously that's just opinion. You don't share my opinion, fine. Better than fine, great. Seriously, it's great that you like the food log. But why would that change my opinion?
And yes, I got the trick of looking up vegetables using the USDA phrasing after a while. But even then, not all of the non-user entries actually match the USDA site, so if it's not something I've used before, I have to actually go to the USDA site to verify it. Packaged items are just as bad IMO, because there are too many.
I don't know if I know all the tricks or not, because if I don't know a trick then I don't know it is a trick. It's unlikely that I do. But I do know my experience.
I just don't know why my experience makes others so testy.0 -
it's just hard to find the raw food as opposed to prcessed food!!!0
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It's okay that you don't feel the need to log. When I first started using this website, I was a bit confused too because it is so much easier when things are handed to me and organized in a way that is logical to me. Once you figure out the logic behind the entries, it really isn't all that cumbersome.
You meant it really isn't all that cumbersome for you, which is awesome (not sarcasm). I found it cumbersome. Obviously, we have different levels of tolerance for this sort of thing. Maybe because I know I can do it without this tool. If I needed it, I suppose it would be worth more effort.
I feel I need MFP for fitness. The challenges and my friends keep me focused on that. But diet, I can do that on my own.
Anyone can do it without this tool. I've never been more than on the high side of my healthy weight. I do it because I find it interesting and fun and I have an interest of what I put in my body.
But you are being dishonest with yourself when you said that you figured out all the tricks, because you obviously didn't and got defensive when it was pointed out. I really wasn't trying to insult you.
*sigh* Your comment: "You obviously don't know all the tricks if you weren't able to figure that out. " sounded pretty passive agressive to me. And I was getting pretty frustrated with everyone trying to tell me that the site isn't cumbersome, when obviously that's just opinion. You don't share my opinion, fine. Better than fine, great. Seriously, it's great that you like the food log. But why would that change my opinion?
And yes, I got the trick of looking up vegetables using the USDA phrasing after a while. But even then, not all of the non-user entries actually match the USDA site, so if it's not something I've used before, I have to actually go to the USDA site to verify it. Packaged items are just as bad IMO, because there are too many.
I don't know if I know all the tricks or not, because if I don't know a trick then I don't know it is a trick. It's unlikely that I do. But I do know my experience.
I just don't know why my experience makes others so testy.
It's not your experience that makes others testy. It's your posts in general.0 -
it's just hard to find the raw food as opposed to prcessed food!!!
Type in the word raw with your search and it's much easier.0 -
I don't think the OP will care to explain, she deactivated a few pages back.
i love the smell of ragequit in the morning.
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This^I guess it is easier because all you have to do is scan a bar code or look up a chain restaurant's nutritional info. However, after using MFP's recipe tool for some time and building up my own database of recipes I keep in regular rotation, I find it just as easy as it would be to log a frozen meal. Cooking for yourself will always take more work, whether it is the actual prep or logging!
I do a lot of my own cooking and enter recipes to help get the numbers in there. But I like having the convenience stuff available for the times I'm not cooking.0 -
It's okay that you don't feel the need to log. When I first started using this website, I was a bit confused too because it is so much easier when things are handed to me and organized in a way that is logical to me. Once you figure out the logic behind the entries, it really isn't all that cumbersome.
You meant it really isn't all that cumbersome for you, which is awesome (not sarcasm). I found it cumbersome. Obviously, we have different levels of tolerance for this sort of thing. Maybe because I know I can do it without this tool. If I needed it, I suppose it would be worth more effort.
I feel I need MFP for fitness. The challenges and my friends keep me focused on that. But diet, I can do that on my own.
Anyone can do it without this tool. I've never been more than on the high side of my healthy weight. I do it because I find it interesting and fun and I have an interest of what I put in my body.
But you are being dishonest with yourself when you said that you figured out all the tricks, because you obviously didn't and got defensive when it was pointed out. I really wasn't trying to insult you.
*sigh* Your comment: "You obviously don't know all the tricks if you weren't able to figure that out. " sounded pretty passive agressive to me. And I was getting pretty frustrated with everyone trying to tell me that the site isn't cumbersome, when obviously that's just opinion. You don't share my opinion, fine. Better than fine, great. Seriously, it's great that you like the food log. But why would that change my opinion?
And yes, I got the trick of looking up vegetables using the USDA phrasing after a while. But even then, not all of the non-user entries actually match the USDA site, so if it's not something I've used before, I have to actually go to the USDA site to verify it. Packaged items are just as bad IMO, because there are too many.
I don't know if I know all the tricks or not, because if I don't know a trick then I don't know it is a trick. It's unlikely that I do. But I do know my experience.
I just don't know why my experience makes others so testy.
It's not your experience that makes others testy. It's your posts in general.
You can block me, ya know. Stress is unhealthy.0 -
It's okay that you don't feel the need to log. When I first started using this website, I was a bit confused too because it is so much easier when things are handed to me and organized in a way that is logical to me. Once you figure out the logic behind the entries, it really isn't all that cumbersome.
You meant it really isn't all that cumbersome for you, which is awesome (not sarcasm). I found it cumbersome. Obviously, we have different levels of tolerance for this sort of thing. Maybe because I know I can do it without this tool. If I needed it, I suppose it would be worth more effort.
I feel I need MFP for fitness. The challenges and my friends keep me focused on that. But diet, I can do that on my own.
Anyone can do it without this tool. I've never been more than on the high side of my healthy weight. I do it because I find it interesting and fun and I have an interest of what I put in my body.
But you are being dishonest with yourself when you said that you figured out all the tricks, because you obviously didn't and got defensive when it was pointed out. I really wasn't trying to insult you.
*sigh* Your comment: "You obviously don't know all the tricks if you weren't able to figure that out. " sounded pretty passive agressive to me. And I was getting pretty frustrated with everyone trying to tell me that the site isn't cumbersome, when obviously that's just opinion. You don't share my opinion, fine. Better than fine, great. Seriously, it's great that you like the food log. But why would that change my opinion?
And yes, I got the trick of looking up vegetables using the USDA phrasing after a while. But even then, not all of the non-user entries actually match the USDA site, so if it's not something I've used before, I have to actually go to the USDA site to verify it. Packaged items are just as bad IMO, because there are too many.
I don't know if I know all the tricks or not, because if I don't know a trick then I don't know it is a trick. It's unlikely that I do. But I do know my experience.
I just don't know why my experience makes others so testy.
It's not your experience that makes others testy. It's your posts in general.
You can block me, ya know. Stress is unhealthy.
You don't stress me. But a lot of people find you irritating.
ETA: Most of the stuff you post is ridiculous and I find you irritating too but not to the point that I can't handle seeing what you've posted.0 -
MFP is a tool to use and you get out of it exactly what you put into it, if you are too lazy to weigh and log your food accurately who's fault is that? It takes me about 5 minutes to log my food for the day maybe 10 if I'm multitasking. Took me longer to backspace my snarky response to this than entering my food
I just glanced at a couple of days of your diary, but most of the foods were packaged foods which, as the OP pointed out, are easy to log.
I just glanced at a couple of days of your diary, but they were all blank.
Ad hominem, Ad hominem, ad hominem.
Factual statement, factual statement, factual statement.
I said nothing about her.0 -
That sure is a puzzler.I just don't know why my experience makes others so testy.0 -
It's okay that you don't feel the need to log. When I first started using this website, I was a bit confused too because it is so much easier when things are handed to me and organized in a way that is logical to me. Once you figure out the logic behind the entries, it really isn't all that cumbersome.
You meant it really isn't all that cumbersome for you, which is awesome (not sarcasm). I found it cumbersome. Obviously, we have different levels of tolerance for this sort of thing. Maybe because I know I can do it without this tool. If I needed it, I suppose it would be worth more effort.
I feel I need MFP for fitness. The challenges and my friends keep me focused on that. But diet, I can do that on my own.
Anyone can do it without this tool. I've never been more than on the high side of my healthy weight. I do it because I find it interesting and fun and I have an interest of what I put in my body.
But you are being dishonest with yourself when you said that you figured out all the tricks, because you obviously didn't and got defensive when it was pointed out. I really wasn't trying to insult you.
*sigh* Your comment: "You obviously don't know all the tricks if you weren't able to figure that out. " sounded pretty passive agressive to me. And I was getting pretty frustrated with everyone trying to tell me that the site isn't cumbersome, when obviously that's just opinion. You don't share my opinion, fine. Better than fine, great. Seriously, it's great that you like the food log. But why would that change my opinion?
And yes, I got the trick of looking up vegetables using the USDA phrasing after a while. But even then, not all of the non-user entries actually match the USDA site, so if it's not something I've used before, I have to actually go to the USDA site to verify it. Packaged items are just as bad IMO, because there are too many.
I don't know if I know all the tricks or not, because if I don't know a trick then I don't know it is a trick. It's unlikely that I do. But I do know my experience.
I just don't know why my experience makes others so testy.
It's not your experience that makes others testy. It's your posts in general.
You can block me, ya know. Stress is unhealthy.
You don't stress me. But a lot of people find you irritating.
ETA: Most of the stuff you post is ridiculous and I find you irritating too but not to the point that I can't handle seeing what you've posted.
That is unfortunate, but I am what I am. Luckily, this is a forum and they have the choice whether to read my posts or not.0 -
It's okay that you don't feel the need to log. When I first started using this website, I was a bit confused too because it is so much easier when things are handed to me and organized in a way that is logical to me. Once you figure out the logic behind the entries, it really isn't all that cumbersome.
You meant it really isn't all that cumbersome for you, which is awesome (not sarcasm). I found it cumbersome. Obviously, we have different levels of tolerance for this sort of thing. Maybe because I know I can do it without this tool. If I needed it, I suppose it would be worth more effort.
I feel I need MFP for fitness. The challenges and my friends keep me focused on that. But diet, I can do that on my own.
Anyone can do it without this tool. I've never been more than on the high side of my healthy weight. I do it because I find it interesting and fun and I have an interest of what I put in my body.
But you are being dishonest with yourself when you said that you figured out all the tricks, because you obviously didn't and got defensive when it was pointed out. I really wasn't trying to insult you.
*sigh* Your comment: "You obviously don't know all the tricks if you weren't able to figure that out. " sounded pretty passive agressive to me. And I was getting pretty frustrated with everyone trying to tell me that the site isn't cumbersome, when obviously that's just opinion. You don't share my opinion, fine. Better than fine, great. Seriously, it's great that you like the food log. But why would that change my opinion?
And yes, I got the trick of looking up vegetables using the USDA phrasing after a while. But even then, not all of the non-user entries actually match the USDA site, so if it's not something I've used before, I have to actually go to the USDA site to verify it. Packaged items are just as bad IMO, because there are too many.
I don't know if I know all the tricks or not, because if I don't know a trick then I don't know it is a trick. It's unlikely that I do. But I do know my experience.
I just don't know why my experience makes others so testy.
It's not your experience that makes others testy. It's your posts in general.
You can block me, ya know. Stress is unhealthy.
You don't stress me. But a lot of people find you irritating.
ETA: Most of the stuff you post is ridiculous and I find you irritating too but not to the point that I can't handle seeing what you've posted.
That is unfortunate, but I am what I am. Luckily, this is a forum and they have the choice whether to read my posts or not.
I'm pretty sure most just read your posts to see what ridiculousness you're trotting out this time. One thing about you, you always bring the lulz.0 -
You get what you put in.
What you decide to get out of this tool is completely up to you.
So, I disagree with your OP.
Maybe you should reevaluate your use of the calorie counter and what you choose to put in your log.
Excellent post & I agree 100%
me too, the database of foods is primarily user input and sources that people have provided to the MFP staff it's not upto them to provide it for you, you should be making your own decisions and atleast now, if the information is correct you can edit it, so blame the people the incorrect information in, lack of information, crap food selections and take some responsibility for your own choices0 -
It's okay that you don't feel the need to log. When I first started using this website, I was a bit confused too because it is so much easier when things are handed to me and organized in a way that is logical to me. Once you figure out the logic behind the entries, it really isn't all that cumbersome.
You meant it really isn't all that cumbersome for you, which is awesome (not sarcasm). I found it cumbersome. Obviously, we have different levels of tolerance for this sort of thing. Maybe because I know I can do it without this tool. If I needed it, I suppose it would be worth more effort.
I feel I need MFP for fitness. The challenges and my friends keep me focused on that. But diet, I can do that on my own.
Anyone can do it without this tool. I've never been more than on the high side of my healthy weight. I do it because I find it interesting and fun and I have an interest of what I put in my body.
But you are being dishonest with yourself when you said that you figured out all the tricks, because you obviously didn't and got defensive when it was pointed out. I really wasn't trying to insult you.
*sigh* Your comment: "You obviously don't know all the tricks if you weren't able to figure that out. " sounded pretty passive agressive to me. And I was getting pretty frustrated with everyone trying to tell me that the site isn't cumbersome, when obviously that's just opinion. You don't share my opinion, fine. Better than fine, great. Seriously, it's great that you like the food log. But why would that change my opinion?
And yes, I got the trick of looking up vegetables using the USDA phrasing after a while. But even then, not all of the non-user entries actually match the USDA site, so if it's not something I've used before, I have to actually go to the USDA site to verify it. Packaged items are just as bad IMO, because there are too many.
I don't know if I know all the tricks or not, because if I don't know a trick then I don't know it is a trick. It's unlikely that I do. But I do know my experience.
I just don't know why my experience makes others so testy.
It's not your experience that makes others testy. It's your posts in general.
You can block me, ya know. Stress is unhealthy.
You don't stress me. But a lot of people find you irritating.
ETA: Most of the stuff you post is ridiculous and I find you irritating too but not to the point that I can't handle seeing what you've posted.
That is unfortunate, but I am what I am. Luckily, this is a forum and they have the choice whether to read my posts or not.
Ah, yes, but only if all those "hijacking" guidelines were taken seriously!0 -
I don't feel that way, but I did feel that way about WW. That's why I quit WW and came over to MFP.
I get your point re MFP, OP. However, I concur with the person above and think most programs like WW are worse. When I was in WW, all they focused on was how to eat processed snack foods with less calories to get your treats in. I like that I have a holistic approach to eating now, and while it does take more time, I enter my own recipes into my data base and eat what I like/what's good for my body and soul.
most of those fad diet foods are fake anyway, they are full of sugar and salt to make up for the lack of flavor and lack of portion size. Healthy Choice, Jenny Craig, Weight Watchers, Light'n'easy are all high in sodium for alot of the foods, far more then you should be inputing but it's simple. They want you fat so you keep ordering there food. Sure you can lose weight on them if you deprive yourself for the rest of your life but is that really living?0 -
I don't feel that way, but I did feel that way about WW. That's why I quit WW and came over to MFP.
I get your point re MFP, OP. However, I concur with the person above and think most programs like WW are worse. When I was in WW, all they focused on was how to eat processed snack foods with less calories to get your treats in. I like that I have a holistic approach to eating now, and while it does take more time, I enter my own recipes into my data base and eat what I like/what's good for my body and soul.
most of those fad diet foods are fake anyway, they are full of sugar and salt to make up for the lack of flavor and lack of portion size. Healthy Choice, Jenny Craig, Weight Watchers, Light'n'easy are all high in sodium for alot of the foods, far more then you should be inputing but it's simple. They want you fat so you keep ordering there food. Sure you can lose weight on them if you deprive yourself for the rest of your life but is that really living?
Did you seriously just go the conspiracy route as to why these portion-controlled foods have the ingredients they have?
Alternatively, might it be because those ingredients are 1) cheaper, and 2) make their product taste good (enough that people continue to buy them)?0 -
That is unfortunate, but I am what I am. Luckily, this is a forum and they have the choice whether to read my posts or not.
but why do your posts even exist? on this thread you mentioned that you don't use MFP to track your calories and haven't in years, plus you've haven't been overweight in decades and you aren't trying to bulk. Soooooo......you're using a calorie counting site to do what, exactly? Post stuff on the forums about logging even tho you don't actually log?
seriously asking.0 -
I don't feel that way, but I did feel that way about WW. That's why I quit WW and came over to MFP.
I get your point re MFP, OP. However, I concur with the person above and think most programs like WW are worse. When I was in WW, all they focused on was how to eat processed snack foods with less calories to get your treats in. I like that I have a holistic approach to eating now, and while it does take more time, I enter my own recipes into my data base and eat what I like/what's good for my body and soul.
most of those fad diet foods are fake anyway, they are full of sugar and salt to make up for the lack of flavor and lack of portion size. Healthy Choice, Jenny Craig, Weight Watchers, Light'n'easy are all high in sodium for alot of the foods, far more then you should be inputing but it's simple. They want you fat so you keep ordering there food. Sure you can lose weight on them if you deprive yourself for the rest of your life but is that really living?
Soooooo....sodium makes you fat?0 -
It's okay that you don't feel the need to log. When I first started using this website, I was a bit confused too because it is so much easier when things are handed to me and organized in a way that is logical to me. Once you figure out the logic behind the entries, it really isn't all that cumbersome.
You meant it really isn't all that cumbersome for you, which is awesome (not sarcasm). I found it cumbersome. Obviously, we have different levels of tolerance for this sort of thing. Maybe because I know I can do it without this tool. If I needed it, I suppose it would be worth more effort.
I feel I need MFP for fitness. The challenges and my friends keep me focused on that. But diet, I can do that on my own.
Anyone can do it without this tool. I've never been more than on the high side of my healthy weight. I do it because I find it interesting and fun and I have an interest of what I put in my body.
But you are being dishonest with yourself when you said that you figured out all the tricks, because you obviously didn't and got defensive when it was pointed out. I really wasn't trying to insult you.
*sigh* Your comment: "You obviously don't know all the tricks if you weren't able to figure that out. " sounded pretty passive agressive to me. And I was getting pretty frustrated with everyone trying to tell me that the site isn't cumbersome, when obviously that's just opinion. You don't share my opinion, fine. Better than fine, great. Seriously, it's great that you like the food log. But why would that change my opinion?
And yes, I got the trick of looking up vegetables using the USDA phrasing after a while. But even then, not all of the non-user entries actually match the USDA site, so if it's not something I've used before, I have to actually go to the USDA site to verify it. Packaged items are just as bad IMO, because there are too many.
I don't know if I know all the tricks or not, because if I don't know a trick then I don't know it is a trick. It's unlikely that I do. But I do know my experience.
I just don't know why my experience makes others so testy.
I really didn't mean to be passive. And I don't consider stating the obvious to be aggressive. But I appreciate the feedback.
I'm not testy at all. Just amused at the smugness being displayed over logging food and I'm con-fuddled that is something that would make anyone defensive.0 -
I get what they're getting at - a lot of those point-based systems and the food marketed with them have the effect of disguising that they are often in practice sub-1200 calorie starvation diets, which is basically a recipe for repeat customers. I wouldn't call it a conspiracy or wanting people to stay fat as much as I would catering to today's market. The whole 'lose weight fast' instant gratification thing, or as close to it as you can get when it comes to weight loss.I don't feel that way, but I did feel that way about WW. That's why I quit WW and came over to MFP.
I get your point re MFP, OP. However, I concur with the person above and think most programs like WW are worse. When I was in WW, all they focused on was how to eat processed snack foods with less calories to get your treats in. I like that I have a holistic approach to eating now, and while it does take more time, I enter my own recipes into my data base and eat what I like/what's good for my body and soul.
most of those fad diet foods are fake anyway, they are full of sugar and salt to make up for the lack of flavor and lack of portion size. Healthy Choice, Jenny Craig, Weight Watchers, Light'n'easy are all high in sodium for alot of the foods, far more then you should be inputing but it's simple. They want you fat so you keep ordering there food. Sure you can lose weight on them if you deprive yourself for the rest of your life but is that really living?
Soooooo....sodium makes you fat?
And yes, rebound from a starvation diet masked with weird math and extra sodium will make you fat. Ever heard someone talk about how weight lost on a diet comes back with buddies? Yep.0
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