Not seeing results - this close to giving up

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So I've posted like a million topics about this, but I'm really in desperate need for help and advice. For the last two years I have been working out regularly, eating clean and taking care of my body. Where does it show? Nowhere!! Except that my arms have a bit more muscle in them, but nothing else. My measurements are exactly the same (my waist is even one cm more now) as they were one and a half years ago.

I feel like I tried everything: counting calories, counting macros, not counting calories, having cheatdays/meals, not having cheatmeals, having restdays, not having restdays, eating low carb, eating high carb .. Everything except for diets like herbalife, cambridge, etc. I'm only 18 so I dont think that's necessary just yet ..

At the moment I doo strength three times a week, go for powerwalks (can't run due to pain in knees) and tabata intervals 2-3 times a week. And I ride horses. I am an active person, and I eat clean, what is it that I'm missing? What am I doing wrong? It feels like I'm trying and trying, and it must be something I do that isn't just quite right, but I cant for the love of my life figure out what it is that's keeping my measurments from getting smaller. I don't care about my weight, I just want to become a strong, toned woman. Which I most certainly don't look like now.

I'm 168 cm tall and weigh about 63 kg atm. Anyone, please?
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  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,268 Member
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    I see inconsistent logging...

    To lose weight you need a consistent reasonable calorie deficet.

    Eating clean does not guarantee weight loss...you can maintain or gain eating "clean"

    Exercise does not guarantee weight loss....

    Start logging accurately and consistently and you will lose weight.
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,442 Member
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    How long have you stuck with any one thing?

    Calories in < calories out = weight loss
  • StaciMarie1974
    StaciMarie1974 Posts: 4,138 Member
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    What target calorie range do you eat daily, and how consistently? Do you weigh/measure your food? If not how do you know that you're eating in a calorie deficit range? If you do, how much time have you given it?

    It sounds like you've hopped from path to path. The key to weight loss is having a consistent calorie deficit. And it takes time.
  • AllieBear88
    AllieBear88 Posts: 170 Member
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    My advice is this:
    Stop looking.

    How do you feel since you've started? Do you feel better? More energetic? Wake up without dread? If so, it's paying off. If not, add in something more intense!

    I haven't checked your log or anything, but someone mentioned inconsistency. That's my biggest problem. Some people NEED structure. Set limits, set goals, write a to do list, track everything, etc. Losing weight is not all about looks and numbers. Getting healthy is good for the body. :)
  • StaciMarie1974
    StaciMarie1974 Posts: 4,138 Member
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    Ok - I'm not good w/ cm and kg so just converted. In terms that I understand you're about 5'6" and 138 pounds. I am 5' 5.5" and aiming for about 140 pounds. You also say you're not worried about weight so my prior comments about aiming for a deficit are irrelevant. I assumed you were looking for weight loss - sorry.

    You are looking to tone, change your body composition. What strength training are you doing?
  • heronh
    heronh Posts: 529 Member
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    63kg at 168cm is a healthy weight Maybe you are already at what your body thinks its the ideal weight.
    You might want to read up on body recomposition instead. I'm pretty sure there are posts for that.
    Try lifting heavy or do Pilates.
    I think its great that you are eating clean and being active even if you don't see the benefits, internally your body is getting the benefits. Do it so you can be a healthy and strong person. You might be too hard on yourself wanting to look perfect.
    Google before and after Photoshop picturea of celebrities that might give you some perspective.
    Good luck and keep up with your healthy life :)
  • Lizzy622
    Lizzy622 Posts: 3,705 Member
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    You are at a good weight. You also may not be done growing. Everyone has their own time table and nature can be unpredictable. Have you measured your height?
  • snufs
    snufs Posts: 78
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    Thank you all so much for taking the time to reply! About the logging in my food diary - a year or so ago I first started measuring my food, I ate around 1500 cals back then. When nothing happened for a couple of months I stopped and just eyed everything, which I know can easily lead to one getting too much food. Then, about four months ago, I started counting calories again - this time I aimed for 1350 cals a day. Too little, maybe? I don't know, I just wanted to try to eat less food I guess. But that didn't give me noticable results either, so I talked to a PT who told me not to count calories - just eat small meals 5-6 times a day. She also gave me this workout program which consists of a one hour session with both strength and a bit of cardio. It has six "groups", each group has two exercises, and I do the program x3 each time. It includes burpees, bench press, wide squats, regular squats etc. So that's what I'm doing right now besides the tabata and riding. I also sometimes go to classes like bodycombat or bodypump, and I absolutely love them both.

    Like some of you said - yes, maybe my body thinks this weight is the ideal weight for me. I wouldn't mind if it was, I'm okay with that! It's just the way my body looks that isn't satisfying me. I'm around 98 cm where my stomach is the biggest - how could I make my measurements shorter? My body fat % is also high (I think, everything except for my arms is jiggly), so that's also what I want to change. Should I still count calories or is that just for losing the actual weight?

    Any thoughts on this one?
  • PJPrimrose
    PJPrimrose Posts: 916 Member
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    OP says :"Except that my arms have a bit more muscle in them" Gaining muscle is gaining muscle. Putting body weight aside, if your arms are more muscular, you are more muscular than you were before you started.
  • LaurenDanielle014
    LaurenDanielle014 Posts: 88 Member
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    as soon as I stopped stressing about it and stayed positive and did my thing as far as eating clean and exercising daily, the Lbs flew off. maybe your stressing yourself about it too much and its reversing the hard work? dedication will get you there, you have to want it so bad you can taste it.
  • snufs
    snufs Posts: 78
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    as soon as I stopped stressing about it and stayed positive and did my thing as far as eating clean and exercising daily, the Lbs flew off. maybe your stressing yourself about it too much and its reversing the hard work? dedication will get you there, you have to want it so bad you can taste it.

    Yeah, actually I've thought about that! Stressing too much, I mean, most of the time it's the only thing I can think about! Maybe my body just hates the way I'm so obsessed so it decides to mess with me and not give my hard work any credit at all .. How did you do to stop obsessing/stressing about it?
  • AliceDark
    AliceDark Posts: 3,886 Member
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    You're at a healthy BMI, so losing more weight is going to be a struggle. Plus, you're 18 and still growing.

    If you would be okay at your current weight but would like to change your body composition (more muscle, less fat), what you want to do is called a body recomp. Do some searches on MFP for recomp threads -- there's a TON of great information here! It's a slow process, but over time you can gain a little muscle and lose some fat, so you'll become smaller and tighter overall without seeing the number on the scale change significantly.
  • jbyesh
    jbyesh Posts: 15 Member
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    Talk to your doctor and ignore all of these wonderfully blessed people for whom simply cutting calories works. I am working with my doctor because I am in the same boat as you. I spent 6 months journaling EVERYTHING (good/bad/ugly). I worked my way down, gradually, from 1600 to 1200 calories. When that didn't work I gradually increased my activity from 0 to 2 HOURS per day (P90X at 4:30am and powerwalking on my lunch for 1 hour). I firmed slightly and lost about 9 pounds total over the 6 month period. I have over 65 pounds to be at the TOP of my goal weight.

    I finally took it to a bariatric doctor because i knew I could look him in the eye and say this is EVERYTHING I've eaten the last 6 months, every activitiy, etc. WHAT am I doing wrong? He is slowly convincing me it's genetic. I've never believed that until now; but at this point I don't know what else it COULD be.

    We tried something that didn't work.

    Now we are trying something new. I was looking for info on it when I saw your post and my heart went out to you because I know your frustration.

    I don't post on here much because the community isn't very supportive for people like me. You get the same BS one size fits all "it's water! it's muscle! don't eat carbs! you need carbs! Calories<Calories out = WL!" it's wonderful that it works for them, I'm jealous! But if you know in your heart of hearts that you're doing it all and it's still not working, you may want to talk to your doctor.
  • hasta_la_vista_belly
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    How long have you stuck with any one thing?

    Wondering this. You said you've tried everything but you're only 18. Weight loss takes time. Stick with a sustainable plan for a while and you'll start to see some results.
  • lindsey1979
    lindsey1979 Posts: 2,395 Member
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    Talk to your doctor and ignore all of these wonderfully blessed people for whom simply cutting calories works. I am working with my doctor because I am in the same boat as you. I spent 6 months journaling EVERYTHING (good/bad/ugly). I worked my way down, gradually, from 1600 to 1200 calories. When that didn't work I gradually increased my activity from 0 to 2 HOURS per day (P90X at 4:30am and powerwalking on my lunch for 1 hour). I firmed slightly and lost about 9 pounds total over the 6 month period. I have over 65 pounds to be at the TOP of my goal weight.

    I finally took it to a bariatric doctor because i knew I could look him in the eye and say this is EVERYTHING I've eaten the last 6 months, every activitiy, etc. WHAT am I doing wrong? He is slowly convincing me it's genetic. I've never believed that until now; but at this point I don't know what else it COULD be.

    We tried something that didn't work.

    Now we are trying something new. I was looking for info on it when I saw your post and my heart went out to you because I know your frustration.

    I don't post on here much because the community isn't very supportive for people like me. You get the same BS one size fits all "it's water! it's muscle! don't eat carbs! you need carbs! Calories<Calories out = WL!" it's wonderful that it works for them, I'm jealous! But if you know in your heart of hearts that you're doing it all and it's still not working, you may want to talk to your doctor.

    Did you doctor check for the common culprits -- thyroid, insulin resistance/glucose metabolism issues, vitamin deficiencies (D, magnesium, etc.), PCOS, etc.?
  • MeganAnne89
    MeganAnne89 Posts: 271 Member
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    To be honest I'm a bit confused as to why not more people are taking your age into account. First off, you're only 18. Your body is still changing and while it can be frustrating for you, this might just be what's going on here. When I think back to the way that my body looked when I was your age it's very different from what it is now (I just turned 25 last month).

    While I understand that you want to make a positive change in your life and get the body that you desire, I'm of the firm belief that a person who is of high school age, even though they're about to be adults, shouldn't highly restrict what they're eating (unless they're obese and need a lot of help) because then I get concerned that they're not getting all of the nutrients that their body requires.

    A few of the other points might be a possibility as well, though. It's possible that maybe working out and eating more clean is something that will benefit your body and will produce a noticeable change but maybe your body needs to just hop on board with that first so maybe it can take longer than you'd like for it to. And regardless of everything, any kind of yo-yo dieting, which is what it sounds like you've been doing, isn't good for you.

    Another option, which may be less likely considering your age, have you ever thought that maybe you have a thyroid problem? Not being able to lose weight despite putting in what seems to be a lot of effort can be a sign of something else. Maybe your body has an increasingly slow metabolic rate which makes it so that the pounds aren't dropping off like you wish they would. Granted, I'm not a doctor, but it's always a possibility since you've been working out so much and eating better, maybe that's been compensating for a slow metabolism which has been why you've been plateauing - you've perhaps been just "evening out" everything.
  • snufs
    snufs Posts: 78
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    To be honest I'm a bit confused as to why not more people are taking your age into account. First off, you're only 18. Your body is still changing and while it can be frustrating for you, this might just be what's going on here. When I think back to the way that my body looked when I was your age it's very different from what it is now (I just turned 25 last month).

    While I understand that you want to make a positive change in your life and get the body that you desire, I'm of the firm belief that a person who is of high school age, even though they're about to be adults, shouldn't highly restrict what they're eating (unless they're obese and need a lot of help) because then I get concerned that they're not getting all of the nutrients that their body requires.

    A few of the other points might be a possibility as well, though. It's possible that maybe working out and eating more clean is something that will benefit your body and will produce a noticeable change but maybe your body needs to just hop on board with that first so maybe it can take longer than you'd like for it to. And regardless of everything, any kind of yo-yo dieting, which is what it sounds like you've been doing, isn't good for you.

    Another option, which may be less likely considering your age, have you ever thought that maybe you have a thyroid problem? Not being able to lose weight despite putting in what seems to be a lot of effort can be a sign of something else. Maybe your body has an increasingly slow metabolic rate which makes it so that the pounds aren't dropping off like you wish they would. Granted, I'm not a doctor, but it's always a possibility since you've been working out so much and eating better, maybe that's been compensating for a slow metabolism which has been why you've been plateauing - you've perhaps been just "evening out" everything.

    Actually, yes, I've been wondering about the whole metabolism thing. Abot four years ago I had a complicated relationship with food and hardly ever ate for a couple of months before I got help and understood that one needs to eat. Perhaps my body is stuck in starvqtion mode? If so, how do I get out from there?
  • eldamiano
    eldamiano Posts: 2,667 Member
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    People in the same position as you who eat at a deficit lose weight. You are not a special case. You arent eating at a deficit.

    Exercise does not equal weight loss. Calorie deficit = weight loss, whatever way you look at it...
  • snufs
    snufs Posts: 78
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    People in the same position as you who eat at a deficit lose weight. You are not a special case. You arent eating at a deficit.

    Exercise does not equal weight loss. Calorie deficit = weight loss, whatever way you look at it...

    Of course I'm not a 'special case', but everybody (and every body) is different. I'm sorry for not having the knowledge to lose fat (not weight!!) and therefore seeking advice.
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
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    if you give up, you definitely wont see results....