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What if there were no "free refills"?

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  • Posts: 9,003 Member

    I'm not sure what you mean about legislation costing more money. From what I know of the legislation being proposed in some local municipalities, the costs that would be incurred would be for those selling beverages that are currently only available in sizes larger than the proposed maximums. They would have to redesign their packaging.

    And I don't understand why anyone wouldn't want to deter people from falling prey to marketing tactics that harm our health. Then again, the big corporations who currently profit from those tactics have spent billions to air television and radio ads to try to sway public opinion in their favor, playing it off as some sort on infringement on our freedoms. If they can afford the ads, they can afford to retool their production lines.

    Why not just have the government do all your thinking for you?
  • Posts: 432 Member
    Those of you who are saying you only get free refills in the US clearly haven't been to many restaurant chains in the UK - Harvester, Frankie and Benny's, Nando's...to name just a few.

    Stop slating Americans!! You are just as likely to be obese here in the UK (dubbed the fattest country in Europe FYI) as you are across the pond.

    Eat properly and you won't be fat. End of...
  • Posts: 9,307 Member

    No thanks. I prefer to be in control of my own life. :yawn: :noway:

    what part of the post about Finland had people not having control of their own lives?

    I agree that 'governments can take a role in promoting healthy lifestyles without trying to control what people can and cant eat by legislation'.

    This is very much the case in Australia - the government runs many healthy lifestyle campaigns- about eating, being sun-smart, having pap smears, having vaccinations etc.

    Promoting healthy lifestyles isn't legislation nor is it enforcing those healthy choices onto anyone - everyone is still 'in control of their own life'
  • Posts: 8,399 Member
    Those of you who are saying you only get free refills in the US clearly haven't been to many restaurant chains in the UK - Harvester, Frankie and Benny's, Nando's...to name just a few.

    Stop slating Americans!! You are just as likely to be obese here in the UK (dubbed the fattest country in Europe FYI) as you are across the pond.

    Eat properly and you won't be fat. End of...

    That's just it. You just proved my point. UK-- free refills--fattest country in Europe! It's useless to say eat properly when so many cave in to temptation.
  • Posts: 1,639 Member
    I'm not sure what you mean about legislation costing more money. From what I know of the legislation being proposed in some local municipalities, the costs that would be incurred would be for those selling beverages that are currently only available in sizes larger than the proposed maximums. They would have to redesign their packaging.

    And I don't understand why anyone wouldn't want to deter people from falling prey to marketing tactics that harm our health. Then again, the big corporations who currently profit from those tactics have spent billions to air television and radio ads to try to sway public opinion in their favor, playing it off as some sort on infringement on our freedoms. If they can afford the ads, they can afford to retool their production lines.

    You really don't see any additional costs? Who do you think enforces laws? You're going to need more government workers to monitor restaurants to see whether they are following this refill legislation and you're going to need attorneys and staff to enforce this nonsensical legislation. All for what - something as trivial as making people buy additional sodas instead of getting refills? And what about diet sodas - is there an exemption for those? How about sweet tea? How about sugary coffee drinks - I guess we should just shut Starbucks down. Wine? Beer? Should we bring back prohibition because those drinks have calories as well? We better outlaw buffets as well, since those aren't controlled portions, and family barbecues should be restricted to fixed portions as well. Let's just make going back for seconds a felony.

    There's no "retooling of production lines" for free refills. It's a service and suggesting government should regulate such a service is absolute nonsense. At the end of the day, having the government implement something is a horribly inefficient way to go about it. The real problem is that your healthcare costs are tied to other people's health. Asking for government to micromanage what other people do is not the answer; untying your healthcare costs to other people's health is.
  • Posts: 5,789 Member

    That's just it. You just proved my point. UK-- free refills--fattest country in Europe! It's useless to say eat properly when so many cave in to temptation.

    computer-facepalm.gif

    <<<Of course, I am in the "obese" category though.
  • Posts: 1,752 Member

    I'm not sure what you mean about legislation costing more money. From what I know of the legislation being proposed in some local municipalities, the costs that would be incurred would be for those selling beverages that are currently only available in sizes larger than the proposed maximums. They would have to redesign their packaging.

    And I don't understand why anyone wouldn't want to deter people from falling prey to marketing tactics that harm our health. Then again, the big corporations who currently profit from those tactics have spent billions to air television and radio ads to try to sway public opinion in their favor, playing it off as some sort on infringement on our freedoms. If they can afford the ads, they can afford to retool their production lines.

    No, businesses do not, and never will, absorb costs. It will get passed on to you in one way or another. I take it economics isn't something taught in schools anymore.
  • Posts: 1,941 Member
    I'm from the UK and live in Asia and I've never seen free refills on soft drinks here.

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