deep thinking about our existance

mhopp71

Is it more reasonable to believe that no one created something out of nothing or someone created something out of nothing?

mud7urtle

I'm pretty sure neither are reasonable. In our perception and ability to understand, of course.

salembambi

its most reasonable to believe what you are capable of believing in this current incarnation of you

our desire to always attach a definitive "thing" to our whys, whens,wheres & hows about our existence is getting old though

(especially the old man with a beard sitting on clouds thing)

wolfsbayne

I'm pretty sure neither are reasonable. In our perception and ability to understand, of course.

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Kaelitr0n

There couldn't exist someone *and* nothing simultaneously. The former is the only logical option (assuming, of course, that your understanding of the verb "create" is flexible enough to include the absence of intent).

OhioTallGuy

This could get deep real fast!

_John_

I think "nothing" is very hard for most to fully visualize...

mojohowitz

“Silence is sometimes the best answer”
― Dalai Lama

DamePiglet

Is it more reasonable to believe that no one created something out of nothing or someone created something out of nothing?

topic is destined for lock.

Derpes

I am too tired for existentialism.

Slacker16

How can something be real when our eyes aren't real?

Cre8veLifeR

"My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind." -- Einstein

My exact thoughts about a creator and our ridiculous "reasonable" discussions about it.

Shropshire1959

Man is man made ... oh and so are the gods.

To think that some invisible friend created us but was it's self not created by it's own invisible friend .. etc.. etc.. ad infinitum is quit frankly daft.

sillygoosie

"I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me." -John Lennon

Galatea_Stone

Metaphysical arguments are designed merely to exercise the mind. For every metaphysical statement that can be made to support the existence of a higher power charged with creation, an equally convincing quasi-metaphysical statement can be made to refute it. In the end, both positions must acknowledge that the foundation of the argument is unknowable. We could discuss the transcental ideality of space and time a la Kant; we could discuss the rejection of metaphysics by atheists (while simultaneously asking "if there is no metaphysical, what is the mind, or more accurately, what is a thought?") or we could confuse ourselves while trying to decipher Wittgenstein.

In the end, the only true answer is "I don't know."

Platform_Heels

Ftw37

Is it more reasonable to believe that no one created something out of nothing or someone created something out of nothing?

Instead, I'd ask the question like this:

"Is it more reasonable to posit a natural explanation for the universe, or a supernatural one?"

Forty6and2

I believe in a thing called love

98777

There's no way to know anything.

Would an ant be able to comprehend that you were sitting next to his anthill and texting on a cell phone while also working on your term paper on evolution?

levicrouch

I think we as humans get ahead of ourselves and 'solve the problem'*, then make up\draw conclusions to support that hypothesis. I believe this line of thinking doesn't get us to correct answer.

We (as humans) should approach the problem with baby steps, quantify what we can, and hope that we can, as a species, best define our existence.

* 'Solving the problem', IMO is that we decide that either there is or is not, an intelligent creator.

michellemybelll

In the end, the only true answer is "I don't know."

QFT

Mrs_Bones

Human beings have a natural instinct to search for cause and effect. When obvious answers cannot be found, we search for agency in things which we cannot see or directly analyze. In a nutshell: when we don't understand what is happening, we create myths (mythos = story; I am not meaning "myth" in a negative manner) in order to understand the causes of events we see taking place around us. So really, believing that someone created something out of nothing is just an instinctive reaction to trying to understand something. Whether or not it's true is irrelevant.

neandermagnon

Oh goody a creation evolution debate........ <--- sarcasm



I would dearly love to learn what creation myths Homo erectus people had.

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ninerbuff

I wonder if any other life forms in the universe are asking the same?

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DamePiglet

I am too tired for existentialism.

What about beer?

Espressocycle

If someone created something out of nothing, who created the creator?

neandermagnon

Here are my thoughts on the creation v evolution debate (from my blog). Possibly you have to have studied a little about primate social systems to get the joke. Or at least have read the whole article, which is actually on why people on internet forums can't just disagree nicely about anything: http://cavepeopleandstuff.wordpress.com/2013/08/13/why-cant-humans-just-disagree-nicely/



ETA: okay I'm going to explain the joke because people won't bother to read the article - the creationist in question is displaying like an ape in an attempt to forcefully get his point across that humans didn't evolve from apes.

Derpes

I am too tired for existentialism.

What about beer?

PBR?

neandermagnon

I am too tired for existentialism.

What about beer?

deep thought says 42

Cameron_1969

Man is man made ... oh and so are the gods.

To think that some invisible friend created us but was it's self not created by it's own invisible friend .. etc.. etc.. ad infinitum is quit frankly daft.

haha. . wow. . spoken like a true deep thinker. .