deep thinking about our existance

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  • miss_jessiejane
    miss_jessiejane Posts: 2,819 Member
    Yes. Or no. Either way, I'm right.
  • jacques57
    jacques57 Posts: 2,129 Member
    "My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind." -- Einstein

    My exact thoughts about a creator and our ridiculous "reasonable" discussions about it.

    This^^^^
    "Someone" and "no one" anthropomorphize the question, but this is human-centric. The source of creation is not human or a divine spirit with human attributes. It just "is" and we scientists love picking at the scabs to see if we can learn about the birth.
  • Slacker16
    Slacker16 Posts: 1,184 Member
    I wonder if any other life forms in the universe are asking the same?
    There might even be other life forms on Earth asking the same question.

    Elephants have been observed mourning their dead and even holding 'wakes'. The distance between recognizing the transition from life to death and asking yourself what lies beyond/before is small.
  • neandermagnon
    neandermagnon Posts: 7,436 Member
    I wonder if any other life forms in the universe are asking the same?
    There might even be other life forms on Earth asking the same question.

    Elephants have been observed mourning their dead and even holding 'wakes'. The distance between recognizing the transition from life to death and asking yourself what lies beyond/before is small.

    Neanderthals (Homo neanderthalensis) buried their dead, and there's some evidence that this was done ritually/with symbolism, e.g. burial with flowers.

    Homo heidelbergensis, which is though to be the common ancestor of us and neanderthals, possibly practiced some form of ritual disposal of their dead, although archaeological evidence is limited.

    Granted they're still humans, but it shows that this kind of consciousness evolved a lot earlier than most people think. And even chimpanzee mothers grieve for dead infants and sometimes they sit in a kind of vigil like away beside the dead infant before finally leaving it. There are videos of this on you tube.

    eta: animal lovers, if you do watch those videos on you tube, have a box of tissues handy....
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  • mank32
    mank32 Posts: 1,323 Member
    "My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind." -- Einstein

    My exact thoughts about a creator and our ridiculous "reasonable" discussions about it.

    something something "optical delusion" of separateness...our religion must evolve to include compassion for all beings
    sorry, Albert, for badly misquoting (no open search at work)
  • Timshel_
    Timshel_ Posts: 22,834 Member
    Humans need a reference point and like to believe they know and control their lives, which is why something was created in the first place - be it big bang, God, or whatever. The fact is eternity just doesn't sit well, as much as not knowing the truth of life. So faith and science abound and really fail, with neither giving way to reality.
  • devilwhiterose
    devilwhiterose Posts: 1,157 Member
    I like to believe that we're all someone's Sims game.
  • InevitableButterfly
    InevitableButterfly Posts: 340 Member
    My opinion is that the existence of our species is the unfortunate result of billions of years of accidents, coincidences, and mutations. I find peace in knowing that we very likely will not escape this planet to spread across the universe(s) destroying other worlds as we will likely not be around much longer. :smile:
  • Cameron_1969
    Cameron_1969 Posts: 2,855 Member
    Metaphysical arguments are designed merely to exercise the mind. For every metaphysical statement that can be made to support the existence of a higher power charged with creation, an equally convincing quasi-metaphysical statement can be made to refute it. In the end, both positions must acknowledge that the foundation of the argument is unknowable. We could discuss the transcental ideality of space and time a la Kant; we could discuss the rejection of metaphysics by atheists (while simultaneously asking "if there is no metaphysical, what is the mind, or more accurately, what is a thought?") or we could confuse ourselves while trying to decipher Wittgenstein.

    In the end, the only true answer is "I don't know."

    Marry me?
  • j_b_morgan
    j_b_morgan Posts: 41
    What if out there somewhere Krypton really did exist and Kal-EL is on his way?

    Or another belief, is this Earth 616 and the Shi'ar coming to destroy us?
  • thomaszabel
    thomaszabel Posts: 203 Member
    I'm a big fan of randomness of the universe, and even the state of the universe before the big bang. Seen lots of documentaries on it, though I'm not a physicist or scientist of any kind.

    I do like statistics, and think that an astronomically large number of improbable events happened in exactly the right order to bring me here today. Chances of it happening make winning the lottery seem easy. But when you look at the vastness of the universe, statistically speaking, something similar probably has happened on many many other planets.

    So I think that the laws of physics and matter and chemistry guided everything we know of to come into existence. Not on purpose. It just happened. And while I'm here, I'm gonna enjoy it.
  • kducky22
    kducky22 Posts: 276 Member
    "My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind." -- Einstein

    My exact thoughts about a creator and our ridiculous "reasonable" discussions about it.

    I love this answer! I'll cheers to that! :drinker:
  • Broderick50
    Broderick50 Posts: 842 Member
    In my opinion with what we know of how life starts it's almost impossible to believe that something didn't create us.
  • MagJam2004
    MagJam2004 Posts: 651 Member
    who else read the title, and said that last word with a head nod and some attitude...feeling kinda gangsta all of a sudden...
  • Broderick50
    Broderick50 Posts: 842 Member
    I like to believe that we're all someone's Sims game.

    Yeah I'm in for this
  • ChaplainHeavin
    ChaplainHeavin Posts: 426 Member
    Is it more reasonable to believe that no one created something out of nothing or someone created something out of nothing?

    So if we see a design in creation and a design in how our human bodies work, we’re supposed to accept we came from nothing? When you look at Mount Rushmore and the sculptures of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, and Teddy Roosevelt, would rational thinking say, “My, how long did you think it took for wind erosion to form what resembles our four American presidents?”
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