USING THE REPORT FUNCTION
Joanne_Moniz
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MFP has a report function where you can run a report on the foods you ate over a given amount of time. The function is easy to use. If you are struggling with your goals, you may find it helpful to run a report on carbohydrates and sugar. Healthy fat does not make us fat but too much fructose (sugar) does!
Joanne Moniz
The Skinny on Obesity Group
Joanne Moniz
The Skinny on Obesity Group
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I got momentarily very confused over this post, I thought you mean a report button like the one for spam posts. I was like "you can report food you overate on?? that's crazy!", then my brain kicked into gear and it made sense.
Must be post workout brainfade LOL.0 -
MFP has a report function where you can run a report on the foods you ate over a given amount of time. The function is easy to use. If you are struggling with your goals, you may find it helpful to run a report on carbohydrates and sugar. Healthy fat does not make us fat but too much fructose (sugar) does!
Joanne Moniz
The Skinny on Obesity Group
Too many calories makes people fat, not too much sugar.
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I got momentarily very confused over this post, I thought you mean a report button like the one for spam posts. I was like "you can report food you overate on?? that's crazy!", then my brain kicked into gear and it made sense.
Must be post workout brainfade LOL.
Glad I wasn't the only one. :laugh:0 -
MFP has a report function where you can run a report on the foods you ate over a given amount of time. The function is easy to use. If you are struggling with your goals, you may find it helpful to run a report on carbohydrates and sugar. Healthy fat does not make us fat but too much fructose (sugar) does!
Joanne Moniz
The Skinny on Obesity Group
Too many calories makes people fat, not too much sugar.
Actually, blood sugar has a lot to do with weight-loss. Now, just because a person eats a lot of sugar does not necessarily mean their glucose levels are up too high to keep them from burning fat or end up with that turning into fat to be used later. Your body burns glucose for fuel, the more in your blood stream the more it will go through before it even touches the fat. Your glucose level needs to drop in order for it to go, "Hmm...I need fuel, no where or where can I get it?" A dramatic drop can result in food cravings as the body is demanding for its levels to be put back to what it considers normal. If there is over an extended period of time of too much blood sugar in the blood stream it will get stored as fat, which is why people often lose weight when placed on the blood sugar control drug metformin. The weight-loss on that drug does not necessarily equate to dramatic losses over a short or extended period of time, but can result in some weight-loss as excess glucose is only /part/ of what regulates our bodies ability to lose weight along with the thyroid, pituitary gland, open and closed metabolic pathways in cells, enzymes, nutrient levels (body will go into starvation mode if some of them aren't met), etc. Calories in and calories out is a huge piece of the story, but it is not the only aspect to consider.
Everyone's body is different and for some sugar can be a factor, for others they could eat three pounds a day and not be phased in the least by it for their weight-loss. There is no one size fits all for weight-loss, weight-gain, and maintenance. Each person has to find his or her path to reach goals. If it was as simple as most people on here put it very few people would actually be overweight as everyone would know the perfect answer to reach his/her goal.0 -
MFP has a report function where you can run a report on the foods you ate over a given amount of time. The function is easy to use. If you are struggling with your goals, you may find it helpful to run a report on carbohydrates and sugar. Healthy fat does not make us fat but too much fructose (sugar) does!
Joanne Moniz
The Skinny on Obesity Group
Too many calories makes people fat, not too much sugar.
Actually, blood sugar has a lot to do with weight-loss. Now, just because a person eats a lot of sugar does not necessarily mean their glucose levels are up too high to keep them from burning fat or end up with that turning into fat to be used later. Your body burns glucose for fuel, the more in your blood stream the more it will go through before it even touches the fat. Your glucose level needs to drop in order for it to go, "Hmm...I need fuel, no where or where can I get it?" A dramatic drop can result in food cravings as the body is demanding for its levels to be put back to what it considers normal. If there is over an extended period of time of too much blood sugar in the blood stream it will get stored as fat, which is why people often lose weight when placed on the blood sugar control drug metformin. The weight-loss on that drug does not necessarily equate to dramatic losses over a short or extended period of time, but can result in some weight-loss as excess glucose is only /part/ of what regulates our bodies ability to lose weight along with the thyroid, pituitary gland, open and closed metabolic pathways in cells, enzymes, nutrient levels (body will go into starvation mode if some of them aren't met), etc. Calories in and calories out is a huge piece of the story, but it is not the only aspect to consider.
Everyone's body is different and for some sugar can be a factor, for others they could eat three pounds a day and not be phased in the least by it for their weight-loss. There is no one size fits all for weight-loss, weight-gain, and maintenance. Each person has to find his or her path to reach goals. If it was as simple as most people on here put it very few people would actually be overweight as everyone would know the perfect answer to reach his/her goal.
Really now...
Yes sugar can be a factor if you eat too much just like all calories....
As for your claims can you back those up with studies? Not likely...not peer reviewed studies.
And it is as simple as "we" put it...calories in vs calories out...and people are overweight because they eat too many calories and don't move enough, or because they are looking for that magic that makes weight loss fast, immediate and doesn't require effort.
To the OP please...you still beating that dead horse...*yawns*0 -
MFP has a report function where you can run a report on the foods you ate over a given amount of time. The function is easy to use. If you are struggling with your goals, you may find it helpful to run a report on carbohydrates and sugar. Healthy fat does not make us fat but too much fructose (sugar) does!
Joanne Moniz
The Skinny on Obesity Group
Too many calories makes people fat, not too much sugar.
Actually, blood sugar has a lot to do with weight-loss. Now, just because a person eats a lot of sugar does not necessarily mean their glucose levels are up too high to keep them from burning fat or end up with that turning into fat to be used later. Your body burns glucose for fuel, the more in your blood stream the more it will go through before it even touches the fat. Your glucose level needs to drop in order for it to go, "Hmm...I need fuel, no where or where can I get it?" A dramatic drop can result in food cravings as the body is demanding for its levels to be put back to what it considers normal. If there is over an extended period of time of too much blood sugar in the blood stream it will get stored as fat, which is why people often lose weight when placed on the blood sugar control drug metformin. The weight-loss on that drug does not necessarily equate to dramatic losses over a short or extended period of time, but can result in some weight-loss as excess glucose is only /part/ of what regulates our bodies ability to lose weight along with the thyroid, pituitary gland, open and closed metabolic pathways in cells, enzymes, nutrient levels (body will go into starvation mode if some of them aren't met), etc. Calories in and calories out is a huge piece of the story, but it is not the only aspect to consider.
Everyone's body is different and for some sugar can be a factor, for others they could eat three pounds a day and not be phased in the least by it for their weight-loss. There is no one size fits all for weight-loss, weight-gain, and maintenance. Each person has to find his or her path to reach goals. If it was as simple as most people on here put it very few people would actually be overweight as everyone would know the perfect answer to reach his/her goal.
Really now...
Yes sugar can be a factor if you eat too much just like all calories....
As for your claims can you back those up with studies? Not likely...not peer reviewed studies.
And it is as simple as "we" put it...calories in vs calories out...and people are overweight because they eat too many calories and don't move enough, or because they are looking for that magic that makes weight loss fast, immediate and doesn't require effort.
To the OP please...you still beating that dead horse...*yawns*
Actually, it's NOT a simple calories in vs calories out that determines weight loss. Why is it that some people eat at a huge deficit and do lots of cardio and still can't lose weight? I read about this somewhere on Lyle McDonald's body recomposition site a few years ago. Don't exactly remember what it said, but apparently there are people for who this is true. I think he suggests menopause causing an issue. And other things but I don't remember. Look it up if you're interested.0 -
MFP has a report function where you can run a report on the foods you ate over a given amount of time. The function is easy to use. If you are struggling with your goals, you may find it helpful to run a report on carbohydrates and sugar. Healthy fat does not make us fat but too much fructose (sugar) does!
Joanne Moniz
The Skinny on Obesity Group
Thanks for the tip! I'm seeing more of an effect from carbs in general. For the past week my carbs have crept up to about 55% which shows in the scale not moving. The last time I had this happen my carbs was at 50%. It seems as long as I keep my carbs at the 40% mark, I lose. This is likely just the way my body is reacting to carbs.0 -
Always an excuse... :yawn:0
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in…for more of joann's sugar alarmism….0
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MFP has a report function where you can run a report on the foods you ate over a given amount of time. The function is easy to use. If you are struggling with your goals, you may find it helpful to run a report on carbohydrates and sugar. Healthy fat does not make us fat but too much fructose (sugar) does!
Joanne Moniz
The Skinny on Obesity Group
Thanks for the tip! I'm seeing more of an effect from carbs in general. For the past week my carbs have crept up to about 55% which shows in the scale not moving. The last time I had this happen my carbs was at 50%. It seems as long as I keep my carbs at the 40% mark, I lose. This is likely just the way my body is reacting to carbs.
more then likely it is just water retention from increased carb intake..
if you are eating in a deficit you will lose weight..
unless you have some kind of medical condition that makes you sensitive to carbs...0 -
MFP has a report function where you can run a report on the foods you ate over a given amount of time. The function is easy to use. If you are struggling with your goals, you may find it helpful to run a report on carbohydrates and sugar. Healthy fat does not make us fat but too much fructose (sugar) does!
Joanne Moniz
The Skinny on Obesity Group
Too many calories makes people fat, not too much sugar.
Actually, blood sugar has a lot to do with weight-loss. Now, just because a person eats a lot of sugar does not necessarily mean their glucose levels are up too high to keep them from burning fat or end up with that turning into fat to be used later. Your body burns glucose for fuel, the more in your blood stream the more it will go through before it even touches the fat. Your glucose level needs to drop in order for it to go, "Hmm...I need fuel, no where or where can I get it?" A dramatic drop can result in food cravings as the body is demanding for its levels to be put back to what it considers normal. If there is over an extended period of time of too much blood sugar in the blood stream it will get stored as fat, which is why people often lose weight when placed on the blood sugar control drug metformin. The weight-loss on that drug does not necessarily equate to dramatic losses over a short or extended period of time, but can result in some weight-loss as excess glucose is only /part/ of what regulates our bodies ability to lose weight along with the thyroid, pituitary gland, open and closed metabolic pathways in cells, enzymes, nutrient levels (body will go into starvation mode if some of them aren't met), etc. Calories in and calories out is a huge piece of the story, but it is not the only aspect to consider.
Everyone's body is different and for some sugar can be a factor, for others they could eat three pounds a day and not be phased in the least by it for their weight-loss. There is no one size fits all for weight-loss, weight-gain, and maintenance. Each person has to find his or her path to reach goals. If it was as simple as most people on here put it very few people would actually be overweight as everyone would know the perfect answer to reach his/her goal.
Really now...
Yes sugar can be a factor if you eat too much just like all calories....
As for your claims can you back those up with studies? Not likely...not peer reviewed studies.
And it is as simple as "we" put it...calories in vs calories out...and people are overweight because they eat too many calories and don't move enough, or because they are looking for that magic that makes weight loss fast, immediate and doesn't require effort.
To the OP please...you still beating that dead horse...*yawns*
Actually, it's NOT a simple calories in vs calories out that determines weight loss. Why is it that some people eat at a huge deficit and do lots of cardio and still can't lose weight? I read about this somewhere on Lyle McDonald's body recomposition site a few years ago. Don't exactly remember what it said, but apparently there are people for who this is true. I think he suggests menopause causing an issue. And other things but I don't remember. Look it up if you're interested.
sorry but it is that simple and calorie deficit is what causes weight loss….so lets just stop the nonsense….
I love how you reference an article and then tell the person that you are quoting to go find it….why don't you take five minutes to locate it and post it...
I believe I read the article that you are referencing and Lyle was talking about a woman that worked out seven days a week with carido and weight training and that the increased cortisol levels were preventing her from dropping additional body fat, because she was already at a low body fat….if memory serves me correctly, he never once mentioned what this "hypothetical" persons calorie intake was….0 -
MFP has a report function where you can run a report on the foods you ate over a given amount of time. The function is easy to use. If you are struggling with your goals, you may find it helpful to run a report on carbohydrates and sugar. Healthy fat does not make us fat but too much fructose (sugar) does!
Joanne Moniz
The Skinny on Obesity Group
Too many calories makes people fat, not too much sugar.
Actually, blood sugar has a lot to do with weight-loss. Now, just because a person eats a lot of sugar does not necessarily mean their glucose levels are up too high to keep them from burning fat or end up with that turning into fat to be used later. Your body burns glucose for fuel, the more in your blood stream the more it will go through before it even touches the fat. Your glucose level needs to drop in order for it to go, "Hmm...I need fuel, no where or where can I get it?" A dramatic drop can result in food cravings as the body is demanding for its levels to be put back to what it considers normal. If there is over an extended period of time of too much blood sugar in the blood stream it will get stored as fat, which is why people often lose weight when placed on the blood sugar control drug metformin. The weight-loss on that drug does not necessarily equate to dramatic losses over a short or extended period of time, but can result in some weight-loss as excess glucose is only /part/ of what regulates our bodies ability to lose weight along with the thyroid, pituitary gland, open and closed metabolic pathways in cells, enzymes, nutrient levels (body will go into starvation mode if some of them aren't met), etc. Calories in and calories out is a huge piece of the story, but it is not the only aspect to consider.
Everyone's body is different and for some sugar can be a factor, for others they could eat three pounds a day and not be phased in the least by it for their weight-loss. There is no one size fits all for weight-loss, weight-gain, and maintenance. Each person has to find his or her path to reach goals. If it was as simple as most people on here put it very few people would actually be overweight as everyone would know the perfect answer to reach his/her goal.
Really now...
Yes sugar can be a factor if you eat too much just like all calories....
As for your claims can you back those up with studies? Not likely...not peer reviewed studies.
And it is as simple as "we" put it...calories in vs calories out...and people are overweight because they eat too many calories and don't move enough, or because they are looking for that magic that makes weight loss fast, immediate and doesn't require effort.
To the OP please...you still beating that dead horse...*yawns*
Actually, it's NOT a simple calories in vs calories out that determines weight loss. Why is it that some people eat at a huge deficit and do lots of cardio and still can't lose weight? I read about this somewhere on Lyle McDonald's body recomposition site a few years ago. Don't exactly remember what it said, but apparently there are people for who this is true. I think he suggests menopause causing an issue. And other things but I don't remember. Look it up if you're interested.
It is that simple...
I am very familiar with body comp readings
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/another-look-at-metabolic-damage.html#more-9313
and this one hits right but it discusses the fact there is weight loss but it is masked by water retention which can be brought on by a number of factors including but not limited to hormones due to time of the month, new exercise, stress (which causes cortisol levels to rise) etc and in the article he goes on to basically say those who think big deficets, lots of cardio etc are necessary to lose weight are doing themselves damage and will eventually damage their metabolism causing their TDEE to go down due to lack of food...and that they need to calm down, be realistic and get a grip...
I don't have to look this stuff up I have a lot of his pages marked for posts like this as proof that sugar is not the devil, that weight loss is as easy as CICO and that those who think they have to eat so little and exercise so much need to relax, give their head a shake and well basically follow the science of weight loss which is CICO.0 -
Actually, it's NOT a simple calories in vs calories out that determines weight loss. Why is it that some people eat at a huge deficit and do lots of cardio and still can't lose weight? I read about this somewhere on Lyle McDonald's body recomposition site a few years ago. Don't exactly remember what it said, but apparently there are people for who this is true. I think he suggests menopause causing an issue. And other things but I don't remember. Look it up if you're interested.
sorry but it is that simple and calorie deficit is what causes weight loss….so lets just stop the nonsense….
I love how you reference an article and then tell the person that you are quoting to go find it….why don't you take five minutes to locate it and post it...
I believe I read the article that you are referencing and Lyle was talking about a woman that worked out seven days a week with carido and weight training and that the increased cortisol levels were preventing her from dropping additional body fat, because she was already at a low body fat….if memory serves me correctly, he never once mentioned what this "hypothetical" persons calorie intake was….
So are you saying you disagree with him, or are you saying the problem is the woman's body fat was too low?0 -
MFP has a report function where you can run a report on the foods you ate over a given amount of time. The function is easy to use. If you are struggling with your goals, you may find it helpful to run a report on carbohydrates and sugar. Healthy fat does not make us fat but too much fructose (sugar) does!
Joanne Moniz
The Skinny on Obesity Group
Too many calories makes people fat, not too much sugar.
Actually, blood sugar has a lot to do with weight-loss. Now, just because a person eats a lot of sugar does not necessarily mean their glucose levels are up too high to keep them from burning fat or end up with that turning into fat to be used later. Your body burns glucose for fuel, the more in your blood stream the more it will go through before it even touches the fat. Your glucose level needs to drop in order for it to go, "Hmm...I need fuel, no where or where can I get it?" A dramatic drop can result in food cravings as the body is demanding for its levels to be put back to what it considers normal. If there is over an extended period of time of too much blood sugar in the blood stream it will get stored as fat, which is why people often lose weight when placed on the blood sugar control drug metformin. The weight-loss on that drug does not necessarily equate to dramatic losses over a short or extended period of time, but can result in some weight-loss as excess glucose is only /part/ of what regulates our bodies ability to lose weight along with the thyroid, pituitary gland, open and closed metabolic pathways in cells, enzymes, nutrient levels (body will go into starvation mode if some of them aren't met), etc. Calories in and calories out is a huge piece of the story, but it is not the only aspect to consider.
Everyone's body is different and for some sugar can be a factor, for others they could eat three pounds a day and not be phased in the least by it for their weight-loss. There is no one size fits all for weight-loss, weight-gain, and maintenance. Each person has to find his or her path to reach goals. If it was as simple as most people on here put it very few people would actually be overweight as everyone would know the perfect answer to reach his/her goal.
Really now...
Yes sugar can be a factor if you eat too much just like all calories....
As for your claims can you back those up with studies? Not likely...not peer reviewed studies.
And it is as simple as "we" put it...calories in vs calories out...and people are overweight because they eat too many calories and don't move enough, or because they are looking for that magic that makes weight loss fast, immediate and doesn't require effort.
To the OP please...you still beating that dead horse...*yawns*
Actually, it's NOT a simple calories in vs calories out that determines weight loss. Why is it that some people eat at a huge deficit and do lots of cardio and still can't lose weight? I read about this somewhere on Lyle McDonald's body recomposition site a few years ago. Don't exactly remember what it said, but apparently there are people for who this is true. I think he suggests menopause causing an issue. And other things but I don't remember. Look it up if you're interested.
I've suspected all along that it is not a simple calories in vs calories out for weight loss and definitely noticed a couple of personal trends during my journey. For me, in order to lose a large deficit was needed and carbs did make a difference. Perhaps my experience was due to already being in a healthy weight range and losing vanity weight, I don't know. I definitely don't think the effects of hormones can be ignored when trying to lose weight. One thing that is very, very abnormal for me is for the past week I have had strong carb cravings so I'm doing a bit of troubleshooting to find out why then correct that problem. I'd still like to lose a couple more pounds. I'm off to check out Lyle's site.0 -
MFP has a report function where you can run a report on the foods you ate over a given amount of time. The function is easy to use. If you are struggling with your goals, you may find it helpful to run a report on carbohydrates and sugar. Healthy fat does not make us fat but too much fructose (sugar) does!
Joanne Moniz
The Skinny on Obesity Group
How come I dont want to track how much protein I am having? I dont want to eat too much protein because I dont want to get all huge and bulky.
Also I hear too much protein causes heart disease and cancer.0 -
How about some Nutrition 101
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition/nutrient-intake-nutrient-storage-and-nutrient-oxidation.html
FTA:
"Carbohydrates can be stored as liver or muscle glycogen, under rare circumstances they are converted to and stored as fat"
I could post multiple debunks of Lustig, but this is a good one
http://sweetenerstudies.com/sites/default/files/resources/files/Scientific-Review-of-Lustigs-Fat-Chance.pdf
FTA:
"Fat Chance: Beating the Odds Against Sugar, Processed Food, Obesity and Disease is the product of one individual’s point of
view – a perspective that is not supported by the vast majority of scientific research on nutrition and metabolism. This review highlights the critical need for the increased communication of weight management strategies that are science-based and realistic. As we’ve witnessed in the past several decades, blaming one particular food or ingredient for the obesity and chronic disease rates in America is unsubstantiated; restriction and avoidance of particular foods (especially those that are most enjoyed by many consumers) is not a sustainable healthy eating strategy. Numerous scientific authorities, including the Academy for Nutrition and Dietetics, have acknowledged that the most effective way to achieve and sustain a healthy weight is to exercise regularly and eat a balanced, nutrient-dense diet that allows for the enjoyment of all foods within individual calorie limits Books like Fat Chance are regressive and only serve to increase consumer confusion about nutrition, rather than help create smarter consumers who are able to make informed decisions about their health."0 -
Actually, it's NOT a simple calories in vs calories out that determines weight loss. Why is it that some people eat at a huge deficit and do lots of cardio and still can't lose weight? I read about this somewhere on Lyle McDonald's body recomposition site a few years ago. Don't exactly remember what it said, but apparently there are people for who this is true. I think he suggests menopause causing an issue. And other things but I don't remember. Look it up if you're interested.
sorry but it is that simple and calorie deficit is what causes weight loss….so lets just stop the nonsense….
I love how you reference an article and then tell the person that you are quoting to go find it….why don't you take five minutes to locate it and post it...
I believe I read the article that you are referencing and Lyle was talking about a woman that worked out seven days a week with carido and weight training and that the increased cortisol levels were preventing her from dropping additional body fat, because she was already at a low body fat….if memory serves me correctly, he never once mentioned what this "hypothetical" persons calorie intake was….
So are you saying you disagree with him, or are you saying the problem is the woman's body fat was too low?
see steff's reply .
i am saying the article never discussed specific calorie level of said hypothetical person ..and if you are basing your understanding of CICO on a hypothetical person in an article that is not even a study, then your understanding is already severely flawed…
I am also saying you are misrepresenting the article…0 -
FIFY just so some don't take you too seriously...MFP has a report function where you can run a report on the foods you ate over a given amount of time. The function is easy to use. If you are struggling with your goals, you may find it helpful to run a report on carbohydrates and sugar. Healthy fat does not make us fat but too much fructose (sugar) does!
Joanne Moniz
The Skinny on Obesity Group
How come I dont want to track how much protein I am having? I dont want to eat too much protein because I dont want to get all huge and bulky.
Also I hear too much protein causes heart disease and cancer./end sarcasm0 -
Most things will make you fat if you eat too much of them I find the most effective and healthy way to lose weight is to have a balance of everything and the report function does help you to analyse where you may need some tweaking in your diet. I think you need some fat in your diet but you also get sugar from fruit, dairy etc which is naturally occurring and I can't see it doing you too much harm. Highly processed food and drink with refined sugar, nasty chemicals, trans fats - that's what you need to avoid - shame they taste so good! We're still into demonizing fat over in the UK but I'm sure the 'sugar is the devil' campaign is coming soon to a place near me!0
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FIFY just so some don't take you too seriously...MFP has a report function where you can run a report on the foods you ate over a given amount of time. The function is easy to use. If you are struggling with your goals, you may find it helpful to run a report on carbohydrates and sugar. Healthy fat does not make us fat but too much fructose (sugar) does!
Joanne Moniz
The Skinny on Obesity Group
How come I dont want to track how much protein I am having? I dont want to eat too much protein because I dont want to get all huge and bulky.
Also I hear too much protein causes heart disease and cancer./end sarcasm
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MFP has a report function where you can run a report on the foods you ate over a given amount of time. The function is easy to use. If you are struggling with your goals, you may find it helpful to run a report on carbohydrates and sugar. Healthy fat does not make us fat but too much fructose (sugar) does!
Joanne Moniz
The Skinny on Obesity Group
But isn't reporting the carbs and sugar kinda like tattling on the naughty kids???0 -
Man, I was over my sodium by like 2,000 yesterday. It's a good thing that going over on these things isn't the huge deal you're making it out to be.0
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Actually, it's NOT a simple calories in vs calories out that determines weight loss. Why is it that some people eat at a huge deficit and do lots of cardio and still can't lose weight? I read about this somewhere on Lyle McDonald's body recomposition site a few years ago. Don't exactly remember what it said, but apparently there are people for who this is true. I think he suggests menopause causing an issue. And other things but I don't remember. Look it up if you're interested.
sorry but it is that simple and calorie deficit is what causes weight loss….so lets just stop the nonsense….
I love how you reference an article and then tell the person that you are quoting to go find it….why don't you take five minutes to locate it and post it...
I believe I read the article that you are referencing and Lyle was talking about a woman that worked out seven days a week with carido and weight training and that the increased cortisol levels were preventing her from dropping additional body fat, because she was already at a low body fat….if memory serves me correctly, he never once mentioned what this "hypothetical" persons calorie intake was….
So are you saying you disagree with him, or are you saying the problem is the woman's body fat was too low?
see steff's reply .
i am saying the article never discussed specific calorie level of said hypothetical person ..and if you are basing your understanding of CICO on a hypothetical person in an article that is not even a study, then your understanding is already severely flawed…
I am also saying you are misrepresenting the article…
You are probably right. Like I said, don't remember exactly what it stated. But I do know that it made sense to me at the time because I can think of two friends who workout like crazy (one teaches aerobics classes daily), eat at a deficit (so they say, there is no way for me to actually know if they are being honest) and are just not losing weight.
But just to make it clear, I do not think it's a simple CICO. Of course I have no studies (peer-reviewed or otherwise) to back up my claim, don't know if any exist and really just don't have the time to go searching. (and probably wouldn't even if I did because I have found studies that prove and disprove the same thing, just depends on who is conducting the research).
Nothing in life is ever so simplistic (although I WISH it was). There isn't just black and white, there are shades of grey (and some colour) to EVERYTHING.0 -
Actually, it's NOT a simple calories in vs calories out that determines weight loss. Why is it that some people eat at a huge deficit and do lots of cardio and still can't lose weight? I read about this somewhere on Lyle McDonald's body recomposition site a few years ago. Don't exactly remember what it said, but apparently there are people for who this is true. I think he suggests menopause causing an issue. And other things but I don't remember. Look it up if you're interested.
sorry but it is that simple and calorie deficit is what causes weight loss….so lets just stop the nonsense….
I love how you reference an article and then tell the person that you are quoting to go find it….why don't you take five minutes to locate it and post it...
I believe I read the article that you are referencing and Lyle was talking about a woman that worked out seven days a week with carido and weight training and that the increased cortisol levels were preventing her from dropping additional body fat, because she was already at a low body fat….if memory serves me correctly, he never once mentioned what this "hypothetical" persons calorie intake was….
So are you saying you disagree with him, or are you saying the problem is the woman's body fat was too low?
see steff's reply .
i am saying the article never discussed specific calorie level of said hypothetical person ..and if you are basing your understanding of CICO on a hypothetical person in an article that is not even a study, then your understanding is already severely flawed…
I am also saying you are misrepresenting the article…
You are probably right. Like I said, don't remember exactly what it stated. But I do know that it made sense to me at the time because I can think of two friends who workout like crazy (one teaches aerobics classes daily), eat at a deficit (so they say, there is no way for me to actually know if they are being honest) and are just not losing weight.
But just to make it clear, I do not think it's a simple CICO. Of course I have no studies (peer-reviewed or otherwise) to back up my claim, don't know if any exist and really just don't have the time to go searching. (and probably wouldn't even if I did because I have found studies that prove and disprove the same thing, just depends on who is conducting the research).
Nothing in life is ever so simplistic (although I WISH it was). There isn't just black and white, there are shades of grey (and some colour) to EVERYTHING.
Not for weight loss... people think there is more to it, but there really isn't. *shrug* :ohwell:0 -
You are probably right. Like I said, don't remember exactly what it stated. But I do know that it made sense to me at the time because I can think of two friends who workout like crazy (one teaches aerobics classes daily), eat at a deficit (so they say, there is no way for me to actually know if they are being honest) and are just not losing weight.
But just to make it clear, I do not think it's a simple CICO. Of course I have no studies (peer-reviewed or otherwise) to back up my claim, don't know if any exist and really just don't have the time to go searching. (and probably wouldn't even if I did because I have found studies that prove and disprove the same thing, just depends on who is conducting the research).
Nothing in life is ever so simplistic (although I WISH it was). There isn't just black and white, there are shades of grey (and some colour) to EVERYTHING.
Not for weight loss... people think there is more to it, but there really isn't. *shrug* :ohwell:
Exactly it is that simple...and the majority of people (barring medical conditions) don't have to watch any one food group.
For weight loss...CICO works without worrying about what foods you eat.
I mean my diary (along with hundreds more) prove it day in and day out.
That is the simple secret to weight loss, no pills, no wraps, no special diets, no giving up complete food groups on favor of others just be at a calorie deficet and you lose weight.0 -
MFP has a report function where you can run a report on the foods you ate over a given amount of time. The function is easy to use. If you are struggling with your goals, you may find it helpful to run a report on carbohydrates and sugar. Healthy fat does not make us fat but too much fructose (sugar) does!
Joanne Moniz
The Skinny on Obesity Group
Too many calories makes people fat, not too much sugar.
Actually, blood sugar has a lot to do with weight-loss. Now, just because a person eats a lot of sugar does not necessarily mean their glucose levels are up too high to keep them from burning fat or end up with that turning into fat to be used later. Your body burns glucose for fuel, the more in your blood stream the more it will go through before it even touches the fat. Your glucose level needs to drop in order for it to go, "Hmm...I need fuel, no where or where can I get it?" A dramatic drop can result in food cravings as the body is demanding for its levels to be put back to what it considers normal. If there is over an extended period of time of too much blood sugar in the blood stream it will get stored as fat, which is why people often lose weight when placed on the blood sugar control drug metformin. The weight-loss on that drug does not necessarily equate to dramatic losses over a short or extended period of time, but can result in some weight-loss as excess glucose is only /part/ of what regulates our bodies ability to lose weight along with the thyroid, pituitary gland, open and closed metabolic pathways in cells, enzymes, nutrient levels (body will go into starvation mode if some of them aren't met), etc. Calories in and calories out is a huge piece of the story, but it is not the only aspect to consider.
Everyone's body is different and for some sugar can be a factor, for others they could eat three pounds a day and not be phased in the least by it for their weight-loss. There is no one size fits all for weight-loss, weight-gain, and maintenance. Each person has to find his or her path to reach goals. If it was as simple as most people on here put it very few people would actually be overweight as everyone would know the perfect answer to reach his/her goal.
Really now...
Yes sugar can be a factor if you eat too much just like all calories....
As for your claims can you back those up with studies? Not likely...not peer reviewed studies.
And it is as simple as "we" put it...calories in vs calories out...and people are overweight because they eat too many calories and don't move enough, or because they are looking for that magic that makes weight loss fast, immediate and doesn't require effort.
To the OP please...you still beating that dead horse...*yawns*
One of many, many studies... http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/241329800 -
Study referencedMFP has a report function where you can run a report on the foods you ate over a given amount of time. The function is easy to use. If you are struggling with your goals, you may find it helpful to run a report on carbohydrates and sugar. Healthy fat does not make us fat but too much fructose (sugar) does!
Joanne Moniz
The Skinny on Obesity Group
Too many calories makes people fat, not too much sugar.
Actually, blood sugar has a lot to do with weight-loss. Now, just because a person eats a lot of sugar does not necessarily mean their glucose levels are up too high to keep them from burning fat or end up with that turning into fat to be used later. Your body burns glucose for fuel, the more in your blood stream the more it will go through before it even touches the fat. Your glucose level needs to drop in order for it to go, "Hmm...I need fuel, no where or where can I get it?" A dramatic drop can result in food cravings as the body is demanding for its levels to be put back to what it considers normal. If there is over an extended period of time of too much blood sugar in the blood stream it will get stored as fat, which is why people often lose weight when placed on the blood sugar control drug metformin. The weight-loss on that drug does not necessarily equate to dramatic losses over a short or extended period of time, but can result in some weight-loss as excess glucose is only /part/ of what regulates our bodies ability to lose weight along with the thyroid, pituitary gland, open and closed metabolic pathways in cells, enzymes, nutrient levels (body will go into starvation mode if some of them aren't met), etc. Calories in and calories out is a huge piece of the story, but it is not the only aspect to consider.
Everyone's body is different and for some sugar can be a factor, for others they could eat three pounds a day and not be phased in the least by it for their weight-loss. There is no one size fits all for weight-loss, weight-gain, and maintenance. Each person has to find his or her path to reach goals. If it was as simple as most people on here put it very few people would actually be overweight as everyone would know the perfect answer to reach his/her goal.
Really now...
Yes sugar can be a factor if you eat too much just like all calories....
As for your claims can you back those up with studies? Not likely...not peer reviewed studies.
And it is as simple as "we" put it...calories in vs calories out...and people are overweight because they eat too many calories and don't move enough, or because they are looking for that magic that makes weight loss fast, immediate and doesn't require effort.
To the OP please...you still beating that dead horse...*yawns*
One of many, many studies... http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24132980
Relative ability of fat and sugar tastes to activate reward, gustatory, and somatosensory regions.
so what does that have to do with CICO?0 -
Oh criminy, not this again.
kgeyser
The Tired of People Who Don't Understand Science Group0 -
MFP has a report function where you can run a report on the foods you ate over a given amount of time. The function is easy to use. If you are struggling with your goals, you may find it helpful to run a report on carbohydrates and sugar. Healthy fat does not make us fat but too much fructose (sugar) does!
Joanne Moniz
The Skinny on Obesity Group
You need to stop, there are people out there that may actually believe you.
You will do them more harm then good.
So just stop!0 -
I used to believe this. I used to believe that I couldn't lose weight without eating 100% "clean". While I like clean eating and all, not putting so much stress on it and just eating within my calories has saved me from getting 2 weeks in and stopping again.0
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