USING THE REPORT FUNCTION

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  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    I used to believe this. I used to believe that I couldn't lose weight without eating 100% "clean". While I like clean eating and all, not putting so much stress on it and just eating within my calories has saved me from getting 2 weeks in and stopping again.

    That's our point...exactly...

    CICO for a lot of us...means eating 80% of our food from what people call healthy...lean protiens, healthy fats, dense carbs etc we hit our macros and then the rest of the calories, about 20%, are for our treats so we don't feel "deprived"...
  • FoxyLifter
    FoxyLifter Posts: 965 Member
    MFP has a report function where you can run a report on the foods you ate over a given amount of time. The function is easy to use. If you are struggling with your goals, you may find it helpful to run a report on carbohydrates and sugar. Healthy fat does not make us fat but too much fructose (sugar) does!

    Joanne Moniz
    The Skinny on Obesity Group

    You need to stop, there are people out there that may actually believe you.

    You will do them more harm then good.
    So just stop!

    This.
  • randomtai
    randomtai Posts: 9,003 Member
    Call me when you get your own desk...
  • Samstan101
    Samstan101 Posts: 699 Member
    I used to believe this. I used to believe that I couldn't lose weight without eating 100% "clean". While I like clean eating and all, not putting so much stress on it and just eating within my calories has saved me from getting 2 weeks in and stopping again.

    That's our point...exactly...

    CICO for a lot of us...means eating 80% of our food from what people call healthy...lean protiens, healthy fats, dense carbs etc we hit our macros and then the rest of the calories, about 20%, are for our treats so we don't feel "deprived"...

    Absolutely - that's what's working for me :)
  • knra_grl
    knra_grl Posts: 1,566 Member
    I love the reports function. Sorry sugar never made me fat, overeating and laziness did. :ohwell:
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    Thanks for this Joann. I hadn't really played around with that feature before.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member


    Actually, it's NOT a simple calories in vs calories out that determines weight loss. Why is it that some people eat at a huge deficit and do lots of cardio and still can't lose weight? I read about this somewhere on Lyle McDonald's body recomposition site a few years ago. Don't exactly remember what it said, but apparently there are people for who this is true. I think he suggests menopause causing an issue. And other things but I don't remember. Look it up if you're interested.

    sorry but it is that simple and calorie deficit is what causes weight loss….so lets just stop the nonsense….

    I love how you reference an article and then tell the person that you are quoting to go find it….why don't you take five minutes to locate it and post it...

    I believe I read the article that you are referencing and Lyle was talking about a woman that worked out seven days a week with carido and weight training and that the increased cortisol levels were preventing her from dropping additional body fat, because she was already at a low body fat….if memory serves me correctly, he never once mentioned what this "hypothetical" persons calorie intake was….

    So are you saying you disagree with him, or are you saying the problem is the woman's body fat was too low?

    see steff's reply .

    i am saying the article never discussed specific calorie level of said hypothetical person ..and if you are basing your understanding of CICO on a hypothetical person in an article that is not even a study, then your understanding is already severely flawed…

    I am also saying you are misrepresenting the article…

    You are probably right. Like I said, don't remember exactly what it stated. But I do know that it made sense to me at the time because I can think of two friends who workout like crazy (one teaches aerobics classes daily), eat at a deficit (so they say, there is no way for me to actually know if they are being honest) and are just not losing weight.

    But just to make it clear, I do not think it's a simple CICO. Of course I have no studies (peer-reviewed or otherwise) to back up my claim, don't know if any exist and really just don't have the time to go searching. (and probably wouldn't even if I did because I have found studies that prove and disprove the same thing, just depends on who is conducting the research).

    Nothing in life is ever so simplistic (although I WISH it was). There isn't just black and white, there are shades of grey (and some colour) to EVERYTHING.

    a negative energy balance is required for everyone to lose weight...so yes, it really is that simple...
  • kjo9692
    kjo9692 Posts: 430 Member
    I used to believe this. I used to believe that I couldn't lose weight without eating 100% "clean". While I like clean eating and all, not putting so much stress on it and just eating within my calories has saved me from getting 2 weeks in and stopping again.

    This! How many times have I tried to lose weight by eating "clean", gave up for feeling deprived and put on more and more pounds? Joanne you need to STAHP. You say in your profile how you want to help, but you are not helpful at all. A lot of people don't even bother losing weight because they believe 100% that they need to eat clean, eat stuff they don't like, and deprive themselves forever from the things that they love. I'm sure that if more people would be aware that it was all about CICO they would be on their way to lose weight, that's how you truly help people, by being realistic. Then eventually, for health, they will figure out that macros are important as well as micronutrients, but they don't have to quit cold turkey and dump all the things they like and enjoy, this makes losing weight really stressful and impossible for many.

    I've never ever lost so many pounds before, and my diet isn't "clean" by any means. Until recently I started being more mindful about my macros, but before that I was simply counting calories, and I've lost 33 pounds so far. To those who aren't losing weight by only counting calories, it's probably because other factors are causing weight fluctuations, and you'll obviously won't see progress on the scale. But yes, it's as simple as calories in vs. calories out, it's done wonders for me and thousands of people as well.
  • k_nicole87
    k_nicole87 Posts: 407 Member
    I used to believe this. I used to believe that I couldn't lose weight without eating 100% "clean". While I like clean eating and all, not putting so much stress on it and just eating within my calories has saved me from getting 2 weeks in and stopping again.

    This! How many times have I tried to lose weight by eating "clean", gave up for feeling deprived and put on more and more pounds? Joanne you need to STAHP. You say in your profile how you want to help, but you are not helpful at all. A lot of people don't even bother losing weight because they believe 100% that they need to eat clean, eat stuff they don't like, and deprive themselves forever from the things that they love. I'm sure that if more people would be aware that it was all about CICO they would be on their way to lose weight, that's how you truly help people, by being realistic. Then eventually, for health, they will figure out that macros are important as well as micronutrients, but they don't have to quit cold turkey and dump all the things they like and enjoy, this makes losing weight really stressful and impossible for many.

    I've never ever lost so many pounds before, and my diet isn't "clean" by any means. Until recently I started being more mindful about my macros, but before that I was simply counting calories, and I've lost 33 pounds so far. To those who aren't losing weight by only counting calories, it's probably because other factors are causing weight fluctuations, and you'll obviously won't see progress on the scale. But yes, it's as simple as calories in vs. calories out, it's done wonders for me and thousands of people as well.

    I am with you 100%. The stress over the scale and avoiding sugar, salt, and every other good "bad" food that gives life flavor has helped me stay on track so much. I have started watching macros a little more closely lately too.

    My coffee this morning was insane. SO MUCH SUGAR!
  • _HeartsOnFire_
    _HeartsOnFire_ Posts: 5,304 Member
    I used to believe this. I used to believe that I couldn't lose weight without eating 100% "clean". While I like clean eating and all, not putting so much stress on it and just eating within my calories has saved me from getting 2 weeks in and stopping again.

    This! How many times have I tried to lose weight by eating "clean", gave up for feeling deprived and put on more and more pounds? Joanne you need to STAHP. You say in your profile how you want to help, but you are not helpful at all. A lot of people don't even bother losing weight because they believe 100% that they need to eat clean, eat stuff they don't like, and deprive themselves forever from the things that they love. I'm sure that if more people would be aware that it was all about CICO they would be on their way to lose weight, that's how you truly help people, by being realistic. Then eventually, for health, they will figure out that macros are important as well as micronutrients, but they don't have to quit cold turkey and dump all the things they like and enjoy, this makes losing weight really stressful and impossible for many.

    I've never ever lost so many pounds before, and my diet isn't "clean" by any means. Until recently I started being more mindful about my macros, but before that I was simply counting calories, and I've lost 33 pounds so far. To those who aren't losing weight by only counting calories, it's probably because other factors are causing weight fluctuations, and you'll obviously won't see progress on the scale. But yes, it's as simple as calories in vs. calories out, it's done wonders for me and thousands of people as well.

    QFT
  • KseRz
    KseRz Posts: 980 Member
    MFP has a report function where you can run a report on the foods you ate over a given amount of time. The function is easy to use. If you are struggling with your goals, you may find it helpful to run a report on carbohydrates and sugar. Healthy fat does not make us fat but too much fructose (sugar) does!

    Joanne Moniz
    The Skinny on Obesity Group

    Too many calories makes people fat, not too much sugar. wait.gif







    Actually, blood sugar has a lot to do with weight-loss. Now, just because a person eats a lot of sugar does not necessarily mean their glucose levels are up too high to keep them from burning fat or end up with that turning into fat to be used later. Your body burns glucose for fuel, the more in your blood stream the more it will go through before it even touches the fat. Your glucose level needs to drop in order for it to go, "Hmm...I need fuel, no where or where can I get it?" A dramatic drop can result in food cravings as the body is demanding for its levels to be put back to what it considers normal. If there is over an extended period of time of too much blood sugar in the blood stream it will get stored as fat, which is why people often lose weight when placed on the blood sugar control drug metformin. The weight-loss on that drug does not necessarily equate to dramatic losses over a short or extended period of time, but can result in some weight-loss as excess glucose is only /part/ of what regulates our bodies ability to lose weight along with the thyroid, pituitary gland, open and closed metabolic pathways in cells, enzymes, nutrient levels (body will go into starvation mode if some of them aren't met), etc. Calories in and calories out is a huge piece of the story, but it is not the only aspect to consider.

    Everyone's body is different and for some sugar can be a factor, for others they could eat three pounds a day and not be phased in the least by it for their weight-loss. There is no one size fits all for weight-loss, weight-gain, and maintenance. Each person has to find his or her path to reach goals. If it was as simple as most people on here put it very few people would actually be overweight as everyone would know the perfect answer to reach his/her goal.

    Really now...

    Yes sugar can be a factor if you eat too much just like all calories....

    As for your claims can you back those up with studies? Not likely...not peer reviewed studies.

    And it is as simple as "we" put it...calories in vs calories out...and people are overweight because they eat too many calories and don't move enough, or because they are looking for that magic that makes weight loss fast, immediate and doesn't require effort.

    To the OP please...you still beating that dead horse...*yawns*

    One of many, many studies... http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24132980
    Study referenced

    Relative ability of fat and sugar tastes to activate reward, gustatory, and somatosensory regions.

    so what does that have to do with CICO?

    I didnt see where that study had anything to do with CICO.....


    Here is a study regarding the effects of radishes vs chocolate and what that does to the brain

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9599441

    In summary of the article I reference. Dont deprive yourself of chocolate. Its bad for your soul.
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
    MFP has a report function where you can run a report on the foods you ate over a given amount of time. The function is easy to use. If you are struggling with your goals, you may find it helpful to run a report on carbohydrates and sugar. Healthy fat does not make us fat but too much fructose (sugar) does!

    Joanne Moniz
    The Skinny on Obesity Group

    Too many calories makes people fat, not too much sugar. wait.gif

    Actually, blood sugar has a lot to do with weight-loss. Now, just because a person eats a lot of sugar does not necessarily mean their glucose levels are up too high to keep them from burning fat or end up with that turning into fat to be used later. Your body burns glucose for fuel, the more in your blood stream the more it will go through before it even touches the fat. Your glucose level needs to drop in order for it to go, "Hmm...I need fuel, no where or where can I get it?" A dramatic drop can result in food cravings as the body is demanding for its levels to be put back to what it considers normal. If there is over an extended period of time of too much blood sugar in the blood stream it will get stored as fat, which is why people often lose weight when placed on the blood sugar control drug metformin. The weight-loss on that drug does not necessarily equate to dramatic losses over a short or extended period of time, but can result in some weight-loss as excess glucose is only /part/ of what regulates our bodies ability to lose weight along with the thyroid, pituitary gland, open and closed metabolic pathways in cells, enzymes, nutrient levels (body will go into starvation mode if some of them aren't met), etc. Calories in and calories out is a huge piece of the story, but it is not the only aspect to consider.

    Everyone's body is different and for some sugar can be a factor, for others they could eat three pounds a day and not be phased in the least by it for their weight-loss. There is no one size fits all for weight-loss, weight-gain, and maintenance. Each person has to find his or her path to reach goals. If it was as simple as most people on here put it very few people would actually be overweight as everyone would know the perfect answer to reach his/her goal.

    There is a one size fits all strategy for weight loss. Eat less than you burn. Your ratios of protein, fats and sugars (carbs) are important for end results, and if you have a medical condition.
  • Joanne_Moniz
    Joanne_Moniz Posts: 347 Member
    MFP has a report function where you can run a report on the foods you ate over a given amount of time. The function is easy to use. If you are struggling with your goals, you may find it helpful to run a report on carbohydrates and sugar. Healthy fat does not make us fat but too much fructose (sugar) does!

    Joanne Moniz
    The Skinny on Obesity Group

    Too many calories makes people fat, not too much sugar. wait.gif

    Actually, blood sugar has a lot to do with weight-loss. Now, just because a person eats a lot of sugar does not necessarily mean their glucose levels are up too high to keep them from burning fat or end up with that turning into fat to be used later. Your body burns glucose for fuel, the more in your blood stream the more it will go through before it even touches the fat. Your glucose level needs to drop in order for it to go, "Hmm...I need fuel, no where or where can I get it?" A dramatic drop can result in food cravings as the body is demanding for its levels to be put back to what it considers normal. If there is over an extended period of time of too much blood sugar in the blood stream it will get stored as fat, which is why people often lose weight when placed on the blood sugar control drug metformin. The weight-loss on that drug does not necessarily equate to dramatic losses over a short or extended period of time, but can result in some weight-loss as excess glucose is only /part/ of what regulates our bodies ability to lose weight along with the thyroid, pituitary gland, open and closed metabolic pathways in cells, enzymes, nutrient levels (body will go into starvation mode if some of them aren't met), etc. Calories in and calories out is a huge piece of the story, but it is not the only aspect to consider.

    You are right Everyone's body is different and for some sugar can be a factor, for others they could eat three pounds a day and not be phased in the least by it for their weight-loss. There is no one size fits all for weight-loss, weight-gain, and maintenance. Each person has to find his or her path to reach goals. If it was as simple as most people on here put it very few people would actually be overweight as everyone would know the perfect answer to reach his/her goal.

    You are absolutely right! " Actually, blood sugar has a lot to do with weight-loss" .Weight loss is not just about losing weight; it is about being healthy. This will help explain the energy systems and how your body burns fat .... Too much sugar is not good for anyone, however

    http://www.acefitness.org/blog/3256/the-three-primary-energy-pathways-explained

    Joanne Moniz
    The Skinny on Obesity Group