if you eat at a deficit for a long enough time...

dmenchac · May 2014

Now that I am reading the article for a second time today and seeing how it is supporting everything I am saying, I think you quoted the wrong person.

Jestinia · May 2014

Even I haven't, at least not yet. Thankfully! Not to the level where I don't lose anymore on 1200. Although if I do get down to the lower end of a healthy weight, according to calculators, the difference between losing, maintaining, and gaining will be minuscule. It would probably take me a month to lose a pound on MFP's 1200.

firstsip · May 2014

What are you saying, exactly? That AT can't occur for someone resulting in a maintenance at 1200 calories?

GretaGirl8 · May 2014

honestly, i have read the articles referenced, and I believe I understand them. I have no doubt that losing weight, reducing calories significantly and being at a low weight ALL factor in to how our body utilizes fuel. But no where in those articles does it say someone will STOP losing at a deficit, but rather, the loss will be slower. Or am I reading the articles incorrectly? Are you suggesting that in spite of a deficit, the body will just completely resist weight loss?

143tobe · May 2014

Thanks for posting this. Very informative read!

dmenchac · May 2014

That is not what I am saying..

Read my posts. I can't do this forum anymore lol

Bulking Adaptive Thermogenesis

Coming to theaters near you

Iron_Feline · May 2014

Drat - yes I did, sorry.

Ah well at least the link is here :embarassed:

dmenchac · May 2014

Happens to the best of us! I was however getting worried for a second.

chivalryder · May 2014

No, she would not. In a purely theoretical situation, assuming she starts at age 20, by week 190 she will hit 100% maintenance. She will weight 69 lbs.

KseRz · May 2014

Why is this not a sticky topic in this forum? Its a great thread!

Iron_Feline · May 2014

Oh

I quoted the wrong post - but the right person

I mean to quote it in regards to this post of yours

Yikes - even more confusing. oops.

firstsip · May 2014

I wasn't being rhetorical. You haven't been clear at all other than "I can't do this forum lol," so I looked for clarity. Are you then "saying" that one's TDEE does not increase while bulking?

3dogsrunning · May 2014

You know what is confusing - people making vague disagree statements but not actually saying anything.
For the benefit of us people who may not be experts, does anyone want to elaborate?

AwesomeGuy37 · May 2014

Just some stuff about the starvation experiment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Starvation_Experiment
http://www.tubechop.com/watch/2494264

GretaGirl8 · May 2014

well, okay. obviously we have real world examples of people at extremely low weights due to calorie restriction. i am not sure of their restriction or how long it takes. so, i guess my understanding still remains that someone will always lose weight on a deficit but it will be considerably slower at some point.

firstsip · May 2014

Yes, more or less. People's maintenance calories will lower, as well, but say you're eating 1200 calories for years, lose, lose less as you lose weight, and eventually maintain, you may still lose (as 1200 is below most people's BMRs), but will lose even more slowly.

The real world examples are generally a good analogy to look at. Anorexics, for example, often have to resort to more drastic means of weight reduction as weight loss slows considerably towards lower weights, even when eating in extreme deficits.

GretaGirl8 · May 2014

Thank you for your reply. I appreciate the response.

jofjltncb6 · May 2014

Huh? :huh: AT is relevant for me at 2700+ maintenance (or 3500+ bulk or 2100 cut).

Well, maybe "relevant" isn't the right word...but it's in play nonetheless.

if you eat at a deficit for a long enough time...

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