"You Can't Out-Exercise a Bad Diet"

Psychgrrl

And other weightloss/fatloss wisdom from Born Fitness http://bit.ly/1uRGQf5

He has great info--I follow him on Twitter an subscribe to his newsletter. Thought this piece in particular had some especially relevant info for us and I wanted to share. I really like his positive, can-do approach:

"Your metabolism isn’t holding you back, and your body isn’t hardwired to look a certain way. You can control your ability to lose weight. Simple, small adjustments to your diet, exercise, and other behaviors will make a surprisingly big difference and transform your body."

Ainar

Don't know who the dude is but I sure as hell disagree with your title.

kgeyser

Lies! I could totally do it in my twenties. Now, not so much. Damn you thirties! *shakes fist*

_Zardoz_

Define a bad diet?

NotJustADieter

Sorry everyone who is disagreeing- she's right. If you want to mess up your hormones and insulin levels, eat like crap. All the exercise in the world isn't going to counteract a diet of trans fats and processed sugars.

SezxyStef

Sorry everyone who is disagreeing- she's right. If you want to mess up your hormones and insulin levels, eat like crap. All the exercise in the world isn't going to counteract a diet of trans fats and processed sugars.

wow that didn't take long...

OP is correct but it's not about the types of food...and "bad diet" is probably not the best words...

If you are 500 calories over maintenance you would have to do a lot of exercise to get in a deficet and most people won't do that much exercise is the point of that.

basically weight loss comes from your food deficet...exercise is for health...

tedrickp

Adam Bornstein is a good dude with mostly solid information.

I was lucky enough to work with him (albeit briefly) through the Cracking the Muscle Code program (until I injured myself in unrelated incident) and he seemed like a genuinely good guy. Even after having to leave the program, he still routinely checks in to see how I am doing and to chat/swap advice.

RHachicho

Yeah it's true you can't. But the definition of a good diet is a lot looser than people think. You don't have to eat lean meat and rabbit food to have a good diet.

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kgeyser

Sorry everyone who is disagreeing- she's right. If you want to mess up your hormones and insulin levels, eat like crap. All the exercise in the world isn't going to counteract a diet of trans fats and processed sugars.

Oh noes, not my insulin levels!

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kelleybean1

I think the "bad" diet is referring to too many calories. If you eat cheesecake and fries every day, it'll be really hard to burn more than you consume. How many posts have we seen that complain that they're working out, eating clean but still not losing. It's all about calories in calories out. Exercise alone isn't enough if you eat too much.

RHachicho

There is no such thing as clean or dirty food. But there IS such a thing as filling up on empty calories and then not being able to stop eating because your body is still demanding real food. Just make sure you actually give your body the fuel it needs and you will have little/no problem sticking to your calorie limit. That's the only reason people have a lot of success with so called clean diets. But there's not reason you can't have the occasional slice of cake if you can afford it

Remember folks your soul needs feeding too. It takes it's nutrition from the fourth macro-nutrient. Which is called delicious. Make sure to get your fill of that too

LoupGarouTFTs

OP is correct but it's not about the types of food...and "bad diet" is probably not the best words...

In my context a "bad diet" would probably be one in which I put on unwanted pounds in the form of fat (as opposed to putting on a few extra pounds in the form of muscle) and that caused my blood sugar to climb. But yes, the term "bad diet" is subjective and ephemeral.

Sorry everyone who is disagreeing- she's right. If you want to mess up your hormones and insulin levels, eat like crap. All the exercise in the world isn't going to counteract a diet of trans fats and processed sugars.

Oh noes, not my insulin levels!

Thinking that the poster was referring to blood glucose levels, which some of us do have to worry about.

RHachicho, I took care of that fourth macro with some sugar-free vanilla ice cream with a dusting of cinnamon on it It wasn't capital A awesome like, say, chocolate lava cake . . . but then what is?

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NotJustADieter

Sorry everyone who is disagreeing- she's right. If you want to mess up your hormones and insulin levels, eat like crap. All the exercise in the world isn't going to counteract a diet of trans fats and processed sugars.

I don't disagree with you, but the tone of your posts suggests the belief that eating "trans fats and processed sugars" is somehow going to destroy your physique. I eat dessert every day, which usually consists of a Magnum bar, Friendly's ice cream cup, single serving of Ben & Jerry's, etc.. Some days I'll have two (though I try not to). Yesterday I had 3 slices of pizza AND dessert. That said, my diet primarily consists of nutrient-rich foods; 15% or less comes from what I would qualify as junk food (sweets, fast food, etc.). My nightly indulgence in sweets and regular consumption of processed foods (e.g. wheat bread, jelly, frozen veggies in sauce X, etc.) hasn't swallowed up my six-pack, my energy levels are high, and my hormone levels (aside from the inevitably decreasing testosterone that comes with being 36) are just fine. So while I agree that a diet entirely composed of McDonald's and cookies is a surefire way to sabotage your health and fitness goals, I am absolutely certain that no one is going to burst into flames if they consume some sweets/processed foods.

Oh, absolutely- I eat dessert every day as well. The trick is moderation.

I just hate seeing people say that all calories are created equal when certain food are seriously destructive to your fitness.

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iplayoutside19

Don't know who the dude is but I sure as hell disagree with your title.

I guess technically you can, but you'd spend so much time exercising that things like a job, family, and other hobbies would have to take a backseat.

Seems like an inefficient way to do things. I think I'd rather eat within my calorie goals in the first place, and be able to exercise within an hour.

kgeyser

OP is correct but it's not about the types of food...and "bad diet" is probably not the best words...

In my context a "bad diet" would probably be one in which I put on unwanted pounds in the form of fat (as opposed to putting on a few extra pounds in the form of muscle) and that caused my blood sugar to climb. But yes, the term "bad diet" is subjective and ephemeral.

Sorry everyone who is disagreeing- she's right. If you want to mess up your hormones and insulin levels, eat like crap. All the exercise in the world isn't going to counteract a diet of trans fats and processed sugars.

Oh noes, not my insulin levels!

Thinking that the poster was referring to blood glucose levels, which some of us do have to worry about.

RHachicho, I took care of that fourth macro with some sugar-free vanilla ice cream with a dusting of cinnamon on it It wasn't capital A awesome like, say, chocolate lava cake . . . but then what is?

I know some people have to worry about blood glucose levels, I was referring to how whenever bad diets, sugar, or processed foods are brought up around here, the word insulin invariably gets bandied about as though we are all mere seconds away from going full-on Shelby ripping out her up-do in the beauty salon.

sloth3toes

In, because this just seems so much different than all the rest of the arguments.

fitness_faeiry

from the Doctor and Fitness competitor's mouth...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6H2edyPLU8

Lillyeatslilies

Sorry everyone who is disagreeing- she's right. If you want to mess up your hormones and insulin levels, eat like crap. All the exercise in the world isn't going to counteract a diet of trans fats and processed sugars.

Oh noes, not my insulin levels!

This made me lol

fitness_faeiry

i follow the 80-20 rule. 80% nutritious foods 20% indulgence. I don't like using the terms 'clean' and dirty' foods - its total bullsh*t. Your body doesn't know the difference.

rsoice

basically weight loss comes from your food deficet...exercise is for health...

This kind of put it in perspective for me. I'd never thought about it like that before.

husseycd

It's a common saying (Usually "out train" but same difference). Pretty sure it means working out does not give you liberty to eat whatever you want. You still have to be mindful of calories.

stephanieluvspb

Bump to read later

dym123

Lies! I could totally do it in my twenties. Now, not so much. Damn you thirties! *shakes fist*

yes, I remember those days fondly. Especially when I was training for road races and triathlons, never worried about my diet, ate whatever I wanted in whatever amount I wanted. I even separated my shoulder and couldn't do my normal workout for 2 months and still lost weight without really changing my diet. Learned the hard way when you get into your forties that don't work anymore.

TheSageMage

I don't know about the science of this phrase, but I can tell you in my personal experience, it is a lot easier to not eat 300 calories than it is to work it off. Sure the exercise has health benefits, but when you look at food, aside from the taste, you should look at it as energy.

LoupGarouTFTs

Thinking that the poster was referring to blood glucose levels, which some of us do have to worry about.

RHachicho, I took care of that fourth macro with some sugar-free vanilla ice cream with a dusting of cinnamon on it It wasn't capital A awesome like, say, chocolate lava cake . . . but then what is?

I know some people have to worry about blood glucose levels, I was referring to how whenever bad diets, sugar, or processed foods are brought up around here, the word insulin invariably gets bandied about as though we are all mere seconds away from going full-on Shelby ripping out her up-do in the beauty salon.

Gotcha. (The mental image brought a smile to my face after a difficult morning. Thank you!)

ahoy_m8

Don't know who the dude is but I sure as hell disagree with your title.

Both the title and your comment gave me a chuckle. In my 20's I COULD out-exercise a bad diet. Not so much in my 40's. It's all relative. I totally love the topic title!

Francl27

I was already chubby in my 20's so I'd say that I agree with the title

This thread really is just the perfect example that people here will argue about anything.