"You Can't Out-Exercise a Bad Diet"
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This thread really is just the perfect example that people here will argue about anything.In, because this just seems so much different than all the rest of the arguments.0
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You can out exercise a bad diet. Athletes do it all the time. It just isn't optimal. But they add vitamins to everything now anyway. Athletes thrive on sugar and junk.
For normal people it's not a great weightloss tactic. Better to make a deficit and keep the exercise gentle until you are slim and fit enough to handle something harder. Then as if by magic, you can eat what you like again!0 -
What foods are destructive to my fitness that don't take me out of a caloric deficit? Please elaborate.Sorry everyone who is disagreeing- she's right. If you want to mess up your hormones and insulin levels, eat like crap. All the exercise in the world isn't going to counteract a diet of trans fats and processed sugars.
I don't disagree with you, but the tone of your posts suggests the belief that eating "trans fats and processed sugars" is somehow going to destroy your physique. I eat dessert every day, which usually consists of a Magnum bar, Friendly's ice cream cup, single serving of Ben & Jerry's, etc.. Some days I'll have two (though I try not to). Yesterday I had 3 slices of pizza AND dessert. That said, my diet primarily consists of nutrient-rich foods; 15% or less comes from what I would qualify as junk food (sweets, fast food, etc.). My nightly indulgence in sweets and regular consumption of processed foods (e.g. wheat bread, jelly, frozen veggies in sauce X, etc.) hasn't swallowed up my six-pack, my energy levels are high, and my hormone levels (aside from the inevitably decreasing testosterone that comes with being 36) are just fine. So while I agree that a diet entirely composed of McDonald's and cookies is a surefire way to sabotage your health and fitness goals, I am absolutely certain that no one is going to burst into flames if they consume some sweets/processed foods.
Oh, absolutely- I eat dessert every day as well. The trick is moderation.
I just hate seeing people say that all calories are created equal when certain food are seriously destructive to your fitness.
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This thread really is just the perfect example that people here will argue about anything.In, because this just seems so much different than all the rest of the arguments.
It's proof that people have convoluted definitions of "bad diet."0 -
It depends on each person, what a "bad" diet is, and how much exercise they do. My sister used to run 20 miles a day, and she would eat 6 bagels for breakfast. She was very fit with low body fat. Bottom line is you have to eat to support whatever it is you spend your time doing, and for many people their activity level is overestimated for the amount they eat.0
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It depends on each person, what a "bad" diet is, and how much exercise they do. My sister used to run 20 miles a day, and she would eat 6 bagels for breakfast. She was very fit with low body fat. Bottom line is you have to eat to support whatever it is you spend your time doing, and for many people their activity level is overestimated for the amount they eat.
Only problem with that kind of lifestyle is that the person will most likely slow down with that level of activity due to age but maintain the eating patterns.
Happened to my Dad. Was a farmer his 20's and 30's. Ate like 6 eggs for breakfast. Once he hit his 40's and transitioned to desk jobs he gained weight.0 -
It depends on each person, what a "bad" diet is, and how much exercise they do. My sister used to run 20 miles a day, and she would eat 6 bagels for breakfast. She was very fit with low body fat. Bottom line is you have to eat to support whatever it is you spend your time doing, and for many people their activity level is overestimated for the amount they eat.
Only problem with that kind of lifestyle is that the person will most likely slow down with that level of activity due to age but maintain the eating patterns.
Happened to my Dad. Was a farmer his 20's and 30's. Ate like 6 eggs for breakfast. Once he hit his 40's and transitioned to desk jobs he gained weight.
Oh I completely agree with you on that. In her case she really hasn't (this was over 10 years ago, now she has been home with 2 kids) since she only ate that much because her activity made her legitimately that hungry, and she wouldn't even consider doing that now because she doesn't need that kind of fuel.
I think the problem a lot of people run into is like what you said, they keep eating the same amount when they no longer need to and then they run into trouble.0 -
It depends on each person, what a "bad" diet is, and how much exercise they do. My sister used to run 20 miles a day, and she would eat 6 bagels for breakfast. She was very fit with low body fat. Bottom line is you have to eat to support whatever it is you spend your time doing, and for many people their activity level is overestimated for the amount they eat.
Only problem with that kind of lifestyle is that the person will most likely slow down with that level of activity due to age but maintain the eating patterns.
Happened to my Dad. Was a farmer his 20's and 30's. Ate like 6 eggs for breakfast. Once he hit his 40's and transitioned to desk jobs he gained weight.
The only problem with that is whether or not a person has the wherewithal to recognize it and make changes.0 -
This thread really is just the perfect example that people here will argue about anything.
It's not about arguing.
It's about wanting to be helpful by making sure that misinformation isn't posted.0 -
This thread really is just the perfect example that people here will argue about anything.
It's not about arguing.
It's about wanting to be helpful by making sure that misinformation isn't posted.
So, you are arguing that there is no argument?0 -
Disagree but.......
Depends on whose definition of a bad diet we are going with!0 -
This thread really is just the perfect example that people here will argue about anything.
It's not about arguing.
It's about wanting to be helpful by making sure that misinformation isn't posted.
So, you are arguing that there is no argument?
Touche....lol0 -
for all the sugar and processed food haters out there saying you can't out exercise a bad diet, I have lost 40 pounds by exercising and eating burgers and fries up to 4 times a week and much other junk food. I have gained some back but that was from stopping exercise and not controlling my calories. a calorie is a calorie, processed or not. as long as I was watching my calories and exercising, I could fit a burger and fries from fast food into my diet daily.0
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This thread really is just the perfect example that people here will argue about anything.
It's not about arguing.
It's about wanting to be helpful by making sure that misinformation isn't posted.
So, you are arguing that there is no argument?
Yeah, sure, but more so just clarifying.
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In for the free cookies, pizza, cake, candy, chocolate that you guys aren't eating and want to mail to me for proper disposal :-)0
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In for the free cookies, pizza, cake, candy, chocolate that you guys aren't eating and want to mail to me for proper disposal :-)
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I can sure as hell try!
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I can sure as hell try!
Love this!!! 'This drink is delcious.... Another!!!"0 -
It's not about arguing.
It's about wanting to be helpful by making sure that misinformation isn't posted.
Do you mean the misinformation people added to the thread? Or the original sentiment "You Can't Out-Exercise a Bad Diet"?
...because to be fair to the OP, she just used that line for the title of the thread. Her post is about Adam Bornstein, and the link she included was to his article in which the thread title was just a catchy soundbite.
Some people seem to ignore her post, her link and then argue about the thread title.
Adam is a pretty solid source of info IMO (I disagree on some of his stances, but in the online fitness community he is relatively great)0 -
It's not about arguing.
It's about wanting to be helpful by making sure that misinformation isn't posted.
Do you mean the misinformation people added to the thread? Or the original sentiment "You Can't Out-Exercise a Bad Diet"?
...because to be fair to the OP, she just used that line for the title of the thread. Her post is about Adam Bornstein, and the link she included was to his article in which the thread title was just a catchy soundbite.
Some people seem to ignore her post, her link and then argue about the thread title.
Adam is a pretty solid source of info IMO (I disagree on some of his stances, but in the online fitness community he is relatively great)
I'm talking about the misinformation post OP.If you want to mess up your hormones and insulin levels, eat like crap. All the exercise in the world isn't going to counteract a diet of trans fats and processed sugars.
mostly this ^0 -
I can sure as hell try!
Love this!!! 'This drink is delcious.... Another!!!"
Yeah that was a pretty funny scene is an other-wise average movie...0 -
If you want to mess up your hormones and insulin levels, eat like crap. All the exercise in the world isn't going to counteract a diet of trans fats and processed sugars.
mostly this ^
This we agree on! :flowerforyou:0
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