The average weight ladies bench
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You once told me that a good way to motivate myself was to tell myself to stop sucking. You are the most condescending person on this forum. The only reason I can even read what you say is that I had to unblock you because lots of threads were not making sense because you were talking so much that there were huge gaps in them with you blocked.
You're really smart about lifting but you are the most de-motivating female lifter in this community.
you may continue to think so- it's okay. I am not angry with that.
I have found- that people read a lot into a very matter of fact sentence that is void of emotion and project their own issues into what I'm saying. It happens frequently. I cannot actually help that.
If you ask a question I will do my best to help- I mean- that's why I'm ON the forum. I'm actually not here to fight. I enjoy talking about things- learning and helping people.
As for the stop sucking- you specifically asked a question about how people motivate themselves to push harder. That is how I do it. You cannot ask a blanket question on a public forum and expect to get exactly what you want to hear and love every answer
My statement about "stop sucking" literally had nothing to do with you other to answer a question about what WE do. (we being the internet forums). You asked how we push harder.
That is how I push harder.
Clearly that method doesn't work for you- so be it. Go forth and be fabulous at your gym with your own method of motivation. (you're probably going to read that as condescension- and it's actually not)
I'm not mad- cranky condescending- I wish you the best of luck at whatever you are doing. Truly I do. I wish all people success in their endeavors... even if is not even fitness related. Do I agree with it all always? no- do I think it's the right answer to their goal? nope- do I hope they succeed at some point?-sure do.0 -
Yeah. Your attitude is totally motivating women to up the bar. Mmhmm.
meh- you don't have to like it, me or what I say. Reality is I am very supportive of women lifting.
most people either really just don't like me- or cherry pick one topic to harp- of hundreds I comment on- to talk about how negative I am. I post frequently with very helpful matter of fact advice about lifting.Wuss. According to a certain someone, benching 135lbs as a woman is child's play, apparently. You should be repping out 2x BW easy.
FWIW, the famous Staci (http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2011/07/21/meet-staci-your-new-powerlifting-super-hero/), last time I saw her she said she was benching 165 and probably weighed around 150. And she is ridiculously strong. For a long while her deadlift was more than mine (I've seen her pull 380lbs conventional, probably more now).
I know who staci is- I'm on the same forum. I'm not sure why she isn't putting up more honestly- she's got me totally stomped in dead and squat-and I'm 100% certain my *kitten* is bigger than hers- it's not like I'm some genetic freak with a massive upper body- I"m built very low-wide butt- thick legs. She's almost 20 lbs lighter- and puttin gup 165 so that's solid- but I would have expected a higher number from her.
I'd also be willing to bet for her 135 isn't heavy at all. Once you start working above that range- going back down is hard. Shrug- I'm not bragging about it- I just wish people would stop rating our lifts so fricking low. It's frustrating. I'm not trying to put down other people and I don't get why that's a thing- THE CHART IS WRONG- not all of you thinking I"m attacking you.
I don't care that 135 isn't your warm up weight- I care that they are calling it an elite lift. You can't help where when or how you started training- you're lifts are your lifts right now. Nothing can change that - good bad or indifferent- you work at your level.
But the chart is wrong.
Well let's be clear here for a second. You said you weigh 170 and bench 160 right? I just looked that up on http://www.strstd.com/ and that's a little past advanced. Elite starts at 190lbs. I would agree with that assessment completely. For a woman your size, a 160lb bench is very, very good. If you were able to bench 190 I would say you would definitely be in the elite category. I've never known ANY woman who could bench that much (or even close really).
I'm inclined to believe that the charts are pretty representative of the population. Are the female charts a little more lenient than the male charts? I think so. I attribute that to the very, very small percentage of women (compared to men) who lift for maximal strength. Any woman benching more than 135 is probably in the top .1% of the population. How is that not considered advanced/elite? You have to have some perspective here, the female powerlifting community is obnoxiously small. The local powerlifting competitions around here field 10-20x as many men as women for example. It's very lopsided.
TL;DR, call me when you're benching 190. I'll send you an "Elite" medal in the mail and you can wear it proudly.0 -
Ignoring the social ineptness of some particular people going on in this thread, I just started lifting again and I'm at 80 pounds. I weigh 145. I should be able to get back up to 100 soon, no problem.0
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I'm 5'4", weigh 135 and when I first started lifting, I just did the bar for 45 lbs. I can now bench 135! It's my current PR. I'm still doing 5x5s but might switch to a different lifting program in the near future.
benching your bodyweight is actually pretty impressive. i know a lot of guys that have been lifting for a while that can't do that.0 -
Average female strength is 60% that of a male.
That should translate into weight-lifting comparisons- you can expect to maximally lift 60% of what a comparable weight-lifting male can.
The difference is testosterone.
No matter how hard you work out, you can't naturally increase your levels of testosterone.
UNnaturally, of course, you can.
you're missing a crucial data point to make your comment relevant to the conversation at hand.
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perhaps I misread the "Averages" in terms of size of women for the chart- I'll admit- for someone who is 5'5" and 140, 135 is almost bodyweight- and a solid impressive lift. I will concede that mistake is mine, assuming most charts are based on those stats. .Well let's be clear here for a second. You said you weigh 170 and bench 160 right? I just looked that up on http://www.strstd.com/ and that's a little past advanced. Elite starts at 190lbs. I would agree with that assessment completely. For a woman your size, a 160lb bench is very, very good. If you were able to bench 190 I would say you would definitely be in the elite category. I've never known ANY woman who could bench that much (or even close really).
I'm inclined to believe that the charts are pretty representative of the population. Are the female charts a little more lenient than the male charts? I think so. I attribute that to the very, very small percentage of women (compared to men) who lift for maximal strength. Any woman benching more than 135 is probably in the top .1% of the population. How is that not considered advanced/elite? You have to have some perspective here, the female powerlifting community is obnoxiously small. The local powerlifting competitions around here field 10-20x as many men as women for example. It's very lopsided.
so I take it as my POV- being a 'fat' tall 5'8" "none average" lifter-. Every chart I have EVER seen for women's lifting just always seem so much lower.
170 is my current working set 1 rep max. With a pause.
I am trying to hit 200 this summer- but I think I'm being ambitious- but I am comfortable I'll be able to put up 180 if not more after a deload and a 3 lift only test.
I mean perhaps I am a genetic freak with a massive "bench" I do not consider myself anything special- I work extremely hard for what I have. So it seems weird to think that benching that much is abnormal -
But it am always a little surprised to see excessively low benches- even for record holders- they seem low.
I mean- I am aware that technically I'm considered tall by "averages" but I have never felt tall a day in my life (other than when I rock 6" heels) I am told 170 is big for a girl- a lot- and I get shocked looks with my weight- but I have never felt truly fat in my life- so I guess I just do not see the "extra" about my size/height or lifts- it's all I have known- it's quiet normal to me and I do not feel at all like an exception to the "average" with the company I keep or the work or dance- or gym- perhaps my perception on life is just really off?? I would be willing to admit that's a possible flaw- I just have never felt anything that I have done is not achievable by someone else.
DEAL!!!TL;DR, call me when you're benching 190. I'll send you an "Elite" medal in the mail and you can wear it proudly.
I'll PM you and you can send me something- then I can wear it with my super man underwear (which are worn obnoxiously OVER my blue leggings)0 -
WTF is going on in this seemingly benign and informational thread???
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Putting the actual chart here:
So someone was upset that a 135lb bench press was said to be in the elite category for a woman weighing 114lbs?
So basically regardless of weight and such, 135lbs should be a warm up set for every woman averagely?
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I don't see the huge upset about the chart. It's based on averages and as more women lift...then I am going to assume that the data listed would/will also change.
I don't see this as being something that is complete bs and denies that women are strong..or that they can't be stronger.
As with any chart of averages, it's an average and gives more of a starting point. Nothing is there that implies you can't push even farther.0 -
perhaps I misread the "Averages" in terms of size of women for the chart- I'll admit- for someone who is 5'5" and 140, 135 is almost bodyweight- and a solid impressive lift. I will concede that mistake is mine, assuming most charts are based on those stats. .Well let's be clear here for a second. You said you weigh 170 and bench 160 right? I just looked that up on http://www.strstd.com/ and that's a little past advanced. Elite starts at 190lbs. I would agree with that assessment completely. For a woman your size, a 160lb bench is very, very good. If you were able to bench 190 I would say you would definitely be in the elite category. I've never known ANY woman who could bench that much (or even close really).
I'm inclined to believe that the charts are pretty representative of the population. Are the female charts a little more lenient than the male charts? I think so. I attribute that to the very, very small percentage of women (compared to men) who lift for maximal strength. Any woman benching more than 135 is probably in the top .1% of the population. How is that not considered advanced/elite? You have to have some perspective here, the female powerlifting community is obnoxiously small. The local powerlifting competitions around here field 10-20x as many men as women for example. It's very lopsided.
so I take it as my POV- being a 'fat' tall 5'8" "none average" lifter-. Every chart I have EVER seen for women's lifting just always seem so much lower.
170 is my current working set 1 rep max. With a pause.
I am trying to hit 200 this summer- but I think I'm being ambitious- but I am comfortable I'll be able to put up 180 if not more after a deload and a 3 lift only test.
I mean perhaps I am a genetic freak with a massive "bench" I do not consider myself anything special- I work extremely hard for what I have. So it seems weird to think that benching that much is abnormal -
But it am always a little surprised to see excessively low benches- even for record holders- they seem low.
I mean- I am aware that technically I'm considered tall by "averages" but I have never felt tall a day in my life (other than when I rock 6" heels) I am told 170 is big for a girl- a lot- and I get shocked looks with my weight- but I have never felt truly fat in my life- so I guess I just do not see the "extra" about my size/height or lifts- it's all I have known- it's quiet normal to me and I do not feel at all like an exception to the "average" with the company I keep or the work or dance- or gym- perhaps my perception on life is just really off?? I would be willing to admit that's a possible flaw- I just have never felt anything that I have done is not achievable by someone else.
DEAL!!!TL;DR, call me when you're benching 190. I'll send you an "Elite" medal in the mail and you can wear it proudly.
I'll PM you and you can send me something- then I can wear it with my super man underwear (which are worn obnoxiously OVER my blue leggings)
As I mentioned before. These charts are based on a paused 'competition' style lift.
The only way to change the averages on the chart is for more women to compete and push the records up.
The biggest women's bench I've seen in competition was 112.5 kg / 248 lbs.
Here's the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpmVscPFf_g
However, 99.9% of the women who compete aren't lifting near that amount of weight.0 -
perhaps I misread the "Averages" in terms of size of women for the chart- I'll admit- for someone who is 5'5" and 140, 135 is almost bodyweight- and a solid impressive lift. I will concede that mistake is mine, assuming most charts are based on those stats. .Well let's be clear here for a second. You said you weigh 170 and bench 160 right? I just looked that up on http://www.strstd.com/ and that's a little past advanced. Elite starts at 190lbs. I would agree with that assessment completely. For a woman your size, a 160lb bench is very, very good. If you were able to bench 190 I would say you would definitely be in the elite category. I've never known ANY woman who could bench that much (or even close really).
I'm inclined to believe that the charts are pretty representative of the population. Are the female charts a little more lenient than the male charts? I think so. I attribute that to the very, very small percentage of women (compared to men) who lift for maximal strength. Any woman benching more than 135 is probably in the top .1% of the population. How is that not considered advanced/elite? You have to have some perspective here, the female powerlifting community is obnoxiously small. The local powerlifting competitions around here field 10-20x as many men as women for example. It's very lopsided.
so I take it as my POV- being a 'fat' tall 5'8" "none average" lifter-. Every chart I have EVER seen for women's lifting just always seem so much lower.
170 is my current working set 1 rep max. With a pause.
I am trying to hit 200 this summer- but I think I'm being ambitious- but I am comfortable I'll be able to put up 180 if not more after a deload and a 3 lift only test.
I mean perhaps I am a genetic freak with a massive "bench" I do not consider myself anything special- I work extremely hard for what I have. So it seems weird to think that benching that much is abnormal -
But it am always a little surprised to see excessively low benches- even for record holders- they seem low.
I mean- I am aware that technically I'm considered tall by "averages" but I have never felt tall a day in my life (other than when I rock 6" heels) I am told 170 is big for a girl- a lot- and I get shocked looks with my weight- but I have never felt truly fat in my life- so I guess I just do not see the "extra" about my size/height or lifts- it's all I have known- it's quiet normal to me and I do not feel at all like an exception to the "average" with the company I keep or the work or dance- or gym- perhaps my perception on life is just really off?? I would be willing to admit that's a possible flaw- I just have never felt anything that I have done is not achievable by someone else.
DEAL!!!TL;DR, call me when you're benching 190. I'll send you an "Elite" medal in the mail and you can wear it proudly.
I'll PM you and you can send me something- then I can wear it with my super man underwear (which are worn obnoxiously OVER my blue leggings)
As I mentioned before. These charts are based on a paused 'competition' style lift.
The only way to change the averages on the chart is for more women to compete and push the records up.
The biggest women's bench I've seen in competition was 112.5 kg / 248 lbs.
Here's the video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpmVscPFf_g
However, 99.9% of the women who compete aren't lifting near that amount of weight.
I saw you mention that before and that is also another great point to factor in.
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DEAL!!!TL;DR, call me when you're benching 190. I'll send you an "Elite" medal in the mail and you can wear it proudly.
I'll PM you and you can send me something- then I can wear it with my super man underwear (which are worn obnoxiously OVER my blue leggings)
I am serious, I will really do it. As long as you post a picture of yourself wearing it in your superman getup.0 -
DEAL!!!TL;DR, call me when you're benching 190. I'll send you an "Elite" medal in the mail and you can wear it proudly.
I'll PM you and you can send me something- then I can wear it with my super man underwear (which are worn obnoxiously OVER my blue leggings)
I am serious, I will really do it. As long as you post a picture of yourself wearing it in your superman getup.
But is this based on just a 190lb bench or paused bench (since this was all started over the chart that is based on (as Deevaa said twice) the paused bench)?
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I'm up to 120 for my 1 rep max. I'm 5'4" and 190#. I've also been lifting since the end of September 2013.0
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I lift 5x5, 30# on each side using a Smith machine. I don't know how much the bar weighs. I'd appreciate knowing my total if anyone knows. I weigh 130 pounds.0
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I lift 5x5, 30# on each side using a Smith machine. I don't know how much the bar weighs. I'd appreciate knowing my total if anyone knows. I weigh 130 pounds.
The oly bar weights 20kg/45lbs however the smiths machine has a counter-weight, so it's not comparable to a lift done not using the smiths.0 -
I just want to keep getting better I don't really know when I plan on stopping. The looks don't bother me as it's very rare to see a female in the weights room at all let alone using the bench press at my gym. I think im going to try lower reps more sets and then work on more reps then once I can handle that add more weight and do lower reps again building it up! I started on the Smith machine apparently the bar is 15kg but I can't say how much of that you are actually lifting. What's the whole 1rm? Is that literally the maximum weight you can do for 1 rep? Sorry im knew to this!!0
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I'm 5'3 and weigh 145lbs. My 1RM is 135lbs but I've been doing 105lbs 5X5 lately. I'm trying to bump that up to 115.0
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me to- I have no shame. any excuse to wear my super man undies for the public is a good oneI am serious, I will really do it. As long as you post a picture of yourself wearing it in your superman getup.
can be- thats a fair rule since we are talking about the chart and comp weights.But is this based on just a 190lb bench or paused bench (since this was all started over the chart that is based on (as Deevaa said twice) the paused bench)?
I cannot promise video but we can make it a paused lift. 0 -
to answer this outside the family fuedeWhat's the whole 1rm? Is that literally the maximum weight you can do for 1 rep? Sorry im knew to this!!
yes 1rpm is you're one rep maximum
Many people think there are actually two- a competition one rep max- and you're working/training one rep max.
And for training/program purposes- you want to be using the training one rep max. There is another name but I'm pre coffee right now- so I don't remember it- but that's the giist of it.0 -
I just want to keep getting better I don't really know when I plan on stopping. The looks don't bother me as it's very rare to see a female in the weights room at all let alone using the bench press at my gym. I think im going to try lower reps more sets and then work on more reps then once I can handle that add more weight and do lower reps again building it up! I started on the Smith machine apparently the bar is 15kg but I can't say how much of that you are actually lifting. What's the whole 1rm? Is that literally the maximum weight you can do for 1 rep? Sorry im knew to this!!
Yes, 1RM is the weight you can do for one range of motion.
Build up slowly, make sure your form is good and make sure you aim for continuous improvement.0 -
I just want to keep getting better I don't really know when I plan on stopping. The looks don't bother me as it's very rare to see a female in the weights room at all let alone using the bench press at my gym. I think im going to try lower reps more sets and then work on more reps then once I can handle that add more weight and do lower reps again building it up! I started on the Smith machine apparently the bar is 15kg but I can't say how much of that you are actually lifting. What's the whole 1rm? Is that literally the maximum weight you can do for 1 rep? Sorry im knew to this!!
That is what we all want to just get better...
To build the strength 1-5 reps 5 sets adding weight each time you get it, staying at the same weight if you fail. I know a lot of women use fractionals and/or weighted collars when doing upper body work as we are not as strong as men and adding 5lbs after certian weight can almost guarantee failure (not always but usually)
If all possible get away from the smith machine and do free weights.
The 1RM question has been answered so I wont....
As for the other discussion, IMHO it would be very difficult for anyone to actually admit that they are above average or elite in anything (even world class athletes often shrug it off) so seeing a chart that indicates that they maybe could make one feel "psh that's a load of crap" and if they did say Yah I am way above average almost elite...wonder how that would go?
I know I can bench some high weight for my size/gender...do I consider myself intermediate (5 ft 7, 156lbs, benching 125lbs no idea of 1RM according to calculators 139lbs) no way do I consider myself intermediate...to me lifting for 7 months regardless of the weight I am pushing up I am still a beginner.
I know for sure tho benching bodyweight is a big deal regardless of gender and to me to hit that goal (and I think most men and women would feel this way) I would so do a happy dance and brag a bit (well a lot in my circle of close friends)0 -
I didn't say for all girls- but we shouldn't be putting a elite on a weight cap so low. The only ones who can change that are the women. And apparently I'm a fat kid- because all the women on these forums are 5'5" it seems- so for me- who appears to be a real life gigantor- at 170- that is warm up weight. All the girls I lift with- 135 IS WARM UP... and we are by no stretch elite.
I'm 5'7", weigh 191 and I look forward to my warm ups being 135 lbs! I can only bench 105. I don't know what my 1RM is, but I wish the women that venture in the weight room in my gym would put the heavy weights on. They just do a lot of reps with light weights if they do come in the weight room. I struggle and make some pretty crazy faces lifting the weight that I DO lift, but with struggle comes change and strength.
I'm always interested in what you have to say about weight lifting. I find it very informative and relative to my experience :flowerforyou:0 -
I'm 5'7", weigh 191 and I look forward to my warm ups being 135 lbs! I can only bench 105. I don't know what my 1RM is, but I wish the women that venture in the weight room in my gym would put the heavy weights on. They just do a lot of reps with light weights if they do come in the weight room. I struggle and make some pretty crazy faces lifting the weight that I DO lift, but with struggle comes change and strength.
I'm always interested in what you have to say about weight lifting. I find it very informative and relative to my experience :flowerforyou:
You can definitely do it. Bench numbers come up slower- especially for women (thankfully not as slow as OHP- but still- it's a process!) - and it seems to me also that there is a very short gap between a very comfortable lift and omg I can't do this.
I'm totally fine totally fine totally fine and then add a 2.5 or 5 on each side and it becomes a life or death lift it feels like.
Squats or deads- it gets heavy and it just keeps getting heavy it seems like- but for me bench seems to jump.... but all that aside- you're numbers WILL come up. And it's true- once you start putting that big plate on- you start working above that level it moves up- there is something to be said about it- it makes you feel good putting that wheel on there- so once you start doing it you don't ever want to NOT do it.
If you lift alone and feel like you can't push your weight for training- work in the power cage with a bench and the safety rails- adjust it and test to make sure the bar lands above you still even at the deepest point- will really help you go a long way with your bench. Having the confidence to fail a lift with a proper safety- either spotter or rails will increase your confidence tremendously!!!
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I'm 5'7", weigh 191 and I look forward to my warm ups being 135 lbs! I can only bench 105. I don't know what my 1RM is, but I wish the women that venture in the weight room in my gym would put the heavy weights on. They just do a lot of reps with light weights if they do come in the weight room. I struggle and make some pretty crazy faces lifting the weight that I DO lift, but with struggle comes change and strength.
I'm always interested in what you have to say about weight lifting. I find it very informative and relative to my experience :flowerforyou:
You can definitely do it. Bench numbers come up slower- especially for women (thankfully not as slow as OHP- but still- it's a process!) - and it seems to me also that there is a very short gap between a very comfortable lift and omg I can't do this.
I'm totally fine totally fine totally fine and then add a 2.5 or 5 on each side and it becomes a life or death lift it feels like.
Squats or deads- it gets heavy and it just keeps getting heavy it seems like- but for me bench seems to jump.... but all that aside- you're numbers WILL come up. And it's true- once you start putting that big plate on- you start working above that level it moves up- there is something to be said about it- it makes you feel good putting that wheel on there- so once you start doing it you don't ever want to NOT do it.
If you lift alone and feel like you can't push your weight for training- work in the power cage with a bench and the safety rails- adjust it and test to make sure the bar lands above you still even at the deepest point- will really help you go a long way with your bench. Having the confidence to fail a lift with a proper safety- either spotter or rails will increase your confidence tremendously!!!
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Thanks...there's always a guy willing to spot me when I bench, so no worries there. I agree with the short gap, too. That's the way it is for me. I find that most of my fails tend to be mental, also. I don't necessarily tell myself to "stop sucking" :laugh: , but I do tell myself "you're stronger than you think." That seems to help unless I've got some personal issues going on in my life. I agree with finding what motivation works for you. I want to put up big numbers and that's a driving force behind my lifts. Six months in and I'm doing pretty well as far as my lower body goes and I know that my upper body will get there.0 -
I probably can't lift a thing. Can't afford a gym membership and have no equipment of my own. However, I'm getting a new roommate. HE has various kinds of equipment and is obsessed with lifting, so I've conscripted him to be my very own "personal trainer". lol Mostly I just need some more arm muscle to try and fill out some of the skin i have left over now....and better core since the more muscle I've got toned there, the faster I should recover from transplant surgery0
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I wouldn't be concerned with what anybody else is lifting. Start with bar and each time you are able to do all the sets with good form, add weight. I recommend getting the 1 1/4 pound plates and progressing slowly with those. You'll be lifting more than you thought you ever would before you know it. Don't compare yourself to other people. Compare yourself today to yourself last week.0
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I've never tried the whole 1rm think I'll have ago tonight! If I'm honest when starting I never really looked into it as just wanted to lift to shift lbs but slowly I'm becoming obsessed with the idea of lifting weights! Someone suggested a really good app programme so ill be heading to the gym later armed with that lol0
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I lift 5x5, 30# on each side using a Smith machine. I don't know how much the bar weighs. I'd appreciate knowing my total if anyone knows. I weigh 130 pounds.
Look on the machine. The Smiths I used had a 15lb bar according to the label on the machine.0 -
I've never tried the whole 1rm think I'll have ago tonight! If I'm honest when starting I never really looked into it as just wanted to lift to shift lbs but slowly I'm becoming obsessed with the idea of lifting weights! Someone suggested a really good app programme so ill be heading to the gym later armed with that lol
Yes with some of us that happens...obsession becomes part of it...:drinker:0 -
I've never tried the whole 1rm think I'll have ago tonight! If I'm honest when starting I never really looked into it as just wanted to lift to shift lbs but slowly I'm becoming obsessed with the idea of lifting weights! Someone suggested a really good app programme so ill be heading to the gym later armed with that lol
Yes with some of us that happens...obsession becomes part of it...:drinker:
indeed- obsession. although obsession probably doesn't even begin to cover it LMAO.
It's my church of iron. It's where I practice my religion. Where all become equal and humbled under the bar.
someone should write a manifesto for the church of iron... lol I'd totally be okay with that!!!
It becomes so much more than just looking good- looking good is nice- looking good is great- but there is something about it- it's a rush- not the same runners high- it's empowering- nothing compares to being able to step under the bar and do things.0
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