Calorie Counting 101

duckyruth

peterjens wrote: »

duckyruth wrote: »

What is bumping?

I frequent a 'ukulele forum and there they use it in the marketplace section to Bring Up My Post - in other words, sometimes the 'ukulele they are trying to sell gets "lost" in the conversations about it being for sale. So the original poster bumps their original post back up to the top of the heap.

Oh, thanks! Yes, it is kinda a pain to scroll up & down to beginning & end!

tommy4707

Can i get some help! I'm trying hard to lose weight, trying to count calories but the problem I face is my job. I work on a tow boat, I live one it for 28 days at a time. While I'm on the boat I have no say in what food gets prepared and have to either eat it or go hungry which is also not going to help me loss weight. how could I make the right choice in what I'm eating, from what I get to choose from ?

peterjens

This reminds me of the scene in the movie City Slickers when the chuckwagon cook describes the food he makes - "It's hot. It's brown. And there's plenty of it." You might have any say in what is prepared but you do have a say in the amount of food you eat. Figure out your TDEE here - http://iifym.com/iifym-calculator/ and then keep a journal of how much you eat. Maybe you can have a conversation with the cook to see if he is open to suggestions for nutritious food. Good luck.

vismal

duckyruth wrote: »

What is bumping? Also want to say Vismal this opens my eyes to lots of things to consider & implement...it almost scares me.

Additionally, am I doing it wrong when I exercise but still eat my allotted calories? I shouldn't?

I'm new to this & need help in losing weight & working MFP! Have to do this myself & learn properly as can't afford paying.

Any help will be apreciated. Don't know if I should write a post in introduce myself & have no idea who or how to friend. Put a post in for mentor but no reply.

Thanks.

Bumping moves a thread back to the top. This thread is pinned so bumping doesn't do anything. Not sure why so many people keep bumping it... lol

As to eating back exercise calories, it depends. If you are losing weight steadily by eating them all back, then I'd continue. If you aren't, consider eating just a portion back. If that doesn't stimulate weight loss, consider eating none of them back.

tommy4707 wrote: »

Can i get some help! I'm trying hard to lose weight, trying to count calories but the problem I face is my job. I work on a tow boat, I live one it for 28 days at a time. While I'm on the boat I have no say in what food gets prepared and have to either eat it or go hungry which is also not going to help me loss weight. how could I make the right choice in what I'm eating, from what I get to choose from ?

Types of foods aren't the issue, it's amounts. While you can't control what they serve, you can certainly control how much of it you eat.

peterjens

peterjens wrote: »

You might have any say in what is prepared but you do have a say in the amount of food you eat.

D'oh! I meant to say, "You might not have any say..."

BrownsPtGirl

Great post. I am just starting out in earnest - this will be so helpful. Thanks.

dyersandy

Thanks for the information! I'll be getting a scale today!!

femail1214

this was extremely helpful

tracetraceau

My concern also if MFP tells me my daily goal is 1200 calories and with the amount of exercise I'm doing most days it gives me between 550 to 700 calories extra. Do I stick to ONLY eating my 1200 calories a day or is that not enough ?

vismal

tracetraceau wrote: »

My concern also if MFP tells me my daily goal is 1200 calories and with the amount of exercise I'm doing most days it gives me between 550 to 700 calories extra. Do I stick to ONLY eating my 1200 calories a day or is that not enough ?

You should probably eat back at least some portion of what you burn. Probably not all of it, but at least some. Trial and error will let you know how much.

drinkxyouxpretty

Probably a terrible question, but, do you weigh pasta&rice before or after cooking?

vismal

drinkxyouxpretty wrote: »

Probably a terrible question, but, do you weigh pasta&rice before or after cooking?

Before, but make sure your nutritional information is for dry pasta or dry rice.

amitkatz0

Weighing before is a good idea, I've found that usually for things like rice and quinoa the ratio of dry food:water is about 1:1, so you can use that to estimate in case you forgot to measure before.

nesian_twin

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2537130/Portion-sizes.html [/quote]that's just not accurate, and to be honest, more work to remember all that. It's not hard to put food on a scale. It takes roughly 1 or 2 seconds more to place something on a scale and hit a button than to hold something up to your palm. Who has time to remember how many "dice size pieces of cheese are in an ounce. I'd rather press a button and be accurate.

nah - its boring and obsessive

LiftAllThePizzas

I'm laughing so hard right now at the fact that someone flagged a sticky as spam.

hezemakiah

I wish this was a mandatory read before people sign up for MFP! It would put out a lot of fires when new people are confused, ask for help and then get strongly worded responses or flat out bullied sometimes - along with the people who are just trying to help them!!!! Starting out when you are new and confused can be very overwhelming. Thanks for posting this!!!!

paralegalnc

thanks for posting. I weigh my food and measure. But I did not know you weigh meat raw. so I learned something. thanks.

97annie

i have been used to count my caloies but switching to huge paleo diet plan was much more comfortable for me since i dont have to worry about overeating and such. i eat by plan posted here http://bit.ly/1wZMsZc it has huge choices and actually awesome, i eat new amazing stuff i havent been used to eat and i like it a lot

lisawinning4losing

So far I've been losing weight by estimating, but I have almost 20 pounds left to go. I think I'm good at eyeballing things, and I try error on the side of over-estimating. I would like to get a scale, but just haven't arsed with it yet. When I get one it will be interesting to see how well I've been estimating. Apparently well enough to lose weight, but still, it will be interesting to see.

wendyv895

vismal wrote: »

Calorie Counting 101

With the crazy amount of "I'm eating 1200 calories and I'm not losing weight" or "My weight loss has stalled" threads that get posted every day I decided to copy a calorie counting sticky I wrote for another forum. This is a guide to help ensure as much accuracy as possible when counting calories. It may seem OCD to some but for beginners I feel the more accurate they can be, the better. Before you post about how you can't count calories because of an ED, this thread isn't for you. If you have psychological issues with counting calories, simply don't. This thread is to help those who want to use calorie counting as a means to lose weight. It is based on the fact that if you eat less calories then you burn in a day you will lose weight. If you do not believe in this fact then please just don't post here. This thread is also not about how much you should eat and what you should eat. It is simply about how to accurately track what you do eat. Please keep the reply's to things that deal with calorie counting. If you want to talk about any of the aforementioned things, start a new thread.

Logging foods: In the old days, to calorie count, we had to use paper and pencil. This is why programs like weight watchers became so popular. It essentially dumbed down calorie counting to a point system and made things easier to track. With the advent of software like Myfitnesspal, there is no need for the dumbing down. You can track calories, macro nutrients, micro nutrients, and exercise with very little hassle.

To correctly implement calorie counting you must log everything you consume in a day that contains calories. This includes liquids and/or supplements that contain calories. Some people also log calorie free foods (gum, diet soda, black coffee, etc). Since they do not contain any calories, this is optional. They may however contain something that you want to track (vitamins, minerals, sodium).

Weighing foods: You must weigh your foods! Do not estimate! Weigh everything on a kitchen scale. Preferably a digital scale that weighs in grams. Only liquids should be measured by volume (cups tablespoons, etc). On a package of oatmeal the label will usually say that a serving size is ½ cup. It will also have 40g in parentheses. Use a scale to weigh out 40 grams. You will find that if you dump oats into a ½ cup measuring cup that it won’t always equal 40 grams. This becomes more important with calorically dense food such as peanut butter. 1 tablespoon is usually 100 calories, however one can easily put 2-3 “tablespoons” worth of peanut butter on the end of a normal kitchen spoon. Instead weigh the peanut butter according to how many grams are in a serving. The same goes for scoopers found in supplements. One scoop of whey does not always equal 1 serving. Always weigh your whey! Here are some links to a couple of kitchen scales for purchase:
http://www.amazon.com/EatSmart-Precision-Digital-Kitchen-Silver/dp/B001N07KUE/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1391480839&sr=8-5&keywords=eatsmart+scale
http://www.amazon.com/Ozeri-Digital-Multifunction-Kitchen-Elegant/dp/B004164SRA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1391480816&sr=8-1&keywords=food+scale

[b[Handling foods with no nutritional information[/b]: Sometimes fruits, vegetables, and meats do not come with nutritional information. The USDA has a comprehensive list of nearly all fruits, vegetables, and many different cuts of meats in grams.

http://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/search/list

Using myfitnesspal you can simply search the fruit, vegetable, or meat with “usda” afterwards to obtain the same nutritional information. When weighing meat, ALWAYS WEIGH IT RAW. The nutritional facts are based on the raw weight of meat unless packaging specifically states otherwise. This is true for just about any food you cook. If you are simply searching the database for a food with no nutritional information, be wise at what you pick. Don't pick the one option that is significantly lower in calories then all the others simply because it is. You must also be careful with the bar code scanner. Sometimes the scanner will not give you the correct product. Verify this whenever possible.

Dining out: When dining out, attempt to find nutritional information on the restaurant you are at. Many larger chains have all that information available. Know that this is somewhat of an estimate as they are not weighing things to the gram in the kitchen. They also might be liberal with ingredients like butter and oil which can add up quickly. If the restaurant does not provide nutritional information for their meals, attempt to deconstruct your meal and track it piece by piece. If you want to be 100% accurate you can bring a scale to a restaurant. This not something I do as I don't often eat out, but depending on how accurate you wish to be, it is an option. It's worth considering if you eat out frequently.

Accuracy: Accept the fact that you will never be 100% accurate. The FDA allows for up to a 20% margin of error with nutritional information. You must simply do the best you can possibly do to not let that margin grow any larger by estimating what you have eaten. Along these lines you will find products that claim to be zero calories like mustard, cooking spray, and many others. They actually have somewhere between 0-5 calories per serving. Because of rounding they can claim zero on the label. If you want to be precise, count them as 5 calories a serving. This is increasingly important if you consume these products frequently.

Once you have a solid idea of what your daily/weekly consumption is like, it is easy to manipulate calories to fulfill whatever your goals may be. Before you decide that you need to increase or decrease calories to help accomplish goals, ask yourself “Am I tracking everything correctly?” Are you drinking something with calories and not counting it? Are you weighing everything to the gram? Are you having cheat days/meals that you are not tracking? If you answer yes to any of these then your caloric goals may be correct, you are simply not meeting them. Know that if you eat 1500 calories a day and have a once a week cheat day of 3000 calories you are effectively eating 1714 calories a day. This is why you need to track your cheat days. It's okay to have them but if you track them, you can prevent them from skewing your results.

Tips:Here are some tips that I personally like to use in my own tracking of calories:

When weighing condiments I zero the scale with the container sitting on the scale. I apply the condiments to my food. I then put the container back on the scale. It will read a negative number in grams. That is how much condiment I used. This does not work for aerosols like pam or whip cream.

If my goal is weight loss and am going out to eat at a restaurant with no nutritional information, I reconstruct the meal in myfitnesspal and add 10% to the caloric total. This is in case I underestimated. Research shows humans are notorious at underestimating what they eat. In the rare case I overestimated the calories contained in the meal, I can enjoy a small extra deficit for the day. Even if they do provide nutritional information, this might be worth doing. Again, the chef is going to exercise portion control but he isn't weight his butter or your steak on a food scale and tracking to the gram.

Myfitnesspal lets you enter in your own foods. If something is not in their database you can add it. I get my burritos from Chipotle the same way every time. They have all their nutritional information listed on their website. After I determine the values of my burrito I create the food in MFP and don’t have to bother with it next time. The same goes for Subway.

If you want to weigh liquids, this site will help you based on what liquid you are weighing http://www.convert-me.com/en/convert/cooking/

Final thoughts: Counting calories is in my opinion the best thing one can do to help lose weight. This guide was written to help you be as close to 100% accurate as possible. Some of you might not like the idea of bringing a food scale to a restaurant or weighing condiments. These things aren't musts. If you don’t want to do them then you must accept that you will be less accurate than if you had. If you are a bodybuilder preparing for a competition then you will want to be as accurate as humanly possible. If you are just trying to lose weight with no real deadlines and don’t mind if your diet takes a few weeks longer than planned, feel free to be a little less strict. If you find you are not losing weight despite the fact that your caloric intake is low enough that you should be, then you need to start considering doing things like weighing condiments. Only then can you be truly sure it is time to lower calories. I hope this guide helps you guys. Feel free to add your own tips and ask questions! Again, don't turn this into a debate about anything, that isn't the intention of this thread. Make sure your reply's are about calorie counting!

Amazin and informative, thanks so much!