A simple thought on how to set a calorie goal

Aaron_K123
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Had a thought I wanted to share about how to set a calorie goal. I am not saying this is "the way" to do it its just a thought I had and wanted to get people's impressions or opinion.
Step 1: Decide what your idealized weight would be. I know "ideal" is vague and its almost impossible to know what this is but if you measure your frame size you can ballpark this. Make sure to include the muscle / fitness level you want in your weight unless you are aiming for scrawny.
Step 2: Determine the NEAT for a person of that size with your activity level (non exercise).
Step 3: Eat that number of calories as your daily average. If you want to lose weight faster, exercise more. (there should be some guideline as to how much exercise would be to much, maybe don't drop your net below your BMR?)
Step 4: As you approach your desired weight your weight loss will slow, that is okay...again you can exercise a bit more if you want.
Step 5: When you hit your desired weight ease up to a maintenance level of exercise to keep fit and bump your calories up to match your new TDEE. Or, alternatively, if you are at your weight but not your fitness muscle level then you can keep your exercise level high to drop your bodyfat more before bumping up your calories to a slight surplus and work on bulking up to your desired weight. At this stage your "desired weight" should be a past goal and your real goal should be your general appearance and health.
The idea behind this is basically to use your future idealized self maintenance level as your calorie goal so years down the road when you hit your goal you are basically already at maintenance and have had years of practicing eating at exactly that level...no change to your habits in order to maintain so less chance of yo-yo.
I do not claim this as an original thought I'm sure it has been described, discussed and talked about ad nauseum by many people before me but was just curious as to what people thought of this.
Step 1: Decide what your idealized weight would be. I know "ideal" is vague and its almost impossible to know what this is but if you measure your frame size you can ballpark this. Make sure to include the muscle / fitness level you want in your weight unless you are aiming for scrawny.
Step 2: Determine the NEAT for a person of that size with your activity level (non exercise).
Step 3: Eat that number of calories as your daily average. If you want to lose weight faster, exercise more. (there should be some guideline as to how much exercise would be to much, maybe don't drop your net below your BMR?)
Step 4: As you approach your desired weight your weight loss will slow, that is okay...again you can exercise a bit more if you want.
Step 5: When you hit your desired weight ease up to a maintenance level of exercise to keep fit and bump your calories up to match your new TDEE. Or, alternatively, if you are at your weight but not your fitness muscle level then you can keep your exercise level high to drop your bodyfat more before bumping up your calories to a slight surplus and work on bulking up to your desired weight. At this stage your "desired weight" should be a past goal and your real goal should be your general appearance and health.
The idea behind this is basically to use your future idealized self maintenance level as your calorie goal so years down the road when you hit your goal you are basically already at maintenance and have had years of practicing eating at exactly that level...no change to your habits in order to maintain so less chance of yo-yo.
I do not claim this as an original thought I'm sure it has been described, discussed and talked about ad nauseum by many people before me but was just curious as to what people thought of this.
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TLDR version: Eat at the maintenance level of the size and shape you want to be and eventually over time (with exercise) you will attain that size and shape.0
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Bro, you're on my FL. Don't make me delete you wtih this nonsensical bulls$1t.0
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Bro, you're on my FL. Don't make me delete you wtih this nonsensical bulls$1t.
You gonna start defending your 1200 calorie diet Adonis? ;-)0 -
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Bro, you're on my FL. Don't make me delete you wtih this nonsensical bulls$1t.
You gonna start defending your 1200 calorie diet Adonis? ;-)
I'm defending my 1500 cal dinners, yes.0 -
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Bro, you're on my FL. Don't make me delete you wtih this nonsensical bulls$1t.
You gonna start defending your 1200 calorie diet Adonis? ;-)
I'm defending my 1500 cal dinners, yes.
Aww man, you are going to make me want to skip right to the part where I bulk.0 -
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Bro, you're on my FL. Don't make me delete you wtih this nonsensical bulls$1t.
You gonna start defending your 1200 calorie diet Adonis? ;-)
I'm defending my 1500 cal dinners, yes.
Aww man, you are going to make me want to skip right to the part where I bulk.
Bro, yes bulk...do not pass go, go directly to bulk.0 -
But but...I put the TLDR version.0 -
Bro, you're on my FL. Don't make me delete you wtih this nonsensical bulls$1t.
(Is your right arm bent on that deadlift in your avi or is it just a camera angle thing???)0 -
That's the fat2fit version0
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Bro, you're on my FL. Don't make me delete you wtih this nonsensical bulls$1t.
You gonna start defending your 1200 calorie diet Adonis? ;-)
I'm defending my 1500 cal dinners, yes.
Aww man, you are going to make me want to skip right to the part where I bulk.
Bro, yes bulk...do not pass go, go directly to bulk.
But the fat...it is so plentiful.0 -
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Bro, you're on my FL. Don't make me delete you wtih this nonsensical bulls$1t.
(Is your right arm bent on that deadlift in your avi or is it just a camera angle thing???)
Maybe he is curling it you don't know, stop being so judgmental god0 -
^^ This ..... pretty much right here. :drinker:0 -
Bro, you're on my FL. Don't make me delete you wtih this nonsensical bulls$1t.
(Is your right arm bent on that deadlift in your avi or is it just a camera angle thing???)
Yes, this photo is about six months old....right around the time I first started doing deadlifts. The form has gotten considerably more technical.0 -
Bro, you're on my FL. Don't make me delete you wtih this nonsensical bulls$1t.
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So overly complicated or just wrong or a little derpy or what.
I just see people using online calculators to estimate what they should be eating based on their current weight then subtracting from that to lose weight (which works but clearly people often go too aggressive with that). I was just wondering if you could instead calculate what you would maintain at at your goal weight and then eat that for weight loss. Just as a way of suggesting it so people don't way overshoot and eat at deficits that are too high.
Suppose this is maybe overly conservative?0 -
You pulled this right out of Women's World Magazine, didn't you?0
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You must be referring to Krazy Daisy. She grows on you after a while.0 -
Bro, you're on my FL. Don't make me delete you wtih this nonsensical bulls$1t.
(Is your right arm bent on that deadlift in your avi or is it just a camera angle thing???)
Yes, this photo is about six months old....right around the time I first started doing deadlifts. The form has gotten considerably more technical.
Ah, good...because I felt a twinge in my bicep just looking at that pic.
This is coming from a guy w/ chronic elbow tendonosis though, so, you know, stones and glass houses and all that.0 -
Too simple!0 -
That's the fat2fit version
^^^ That. I haven't seen it mentioned in a couple of years.0 -
Bro, you're on my FL. Don't make me delete you wtih this nonsensical bulls$1t.
(Is your right arm bent on that deadlift in your avi or is it just a camera angle thing???)
Yes, this photo is about six months old....right around the time I first started doing deadlifts. The form has gotten considerably more technical.
Ah, good...because I felt a twinge in my bicep just looking at that pic.
This is coming from a guy w/ chronic elbow tendonosis though, so, you know, stones and glass houses and all that.
Or you could talk to the guy who had biceps tendon surgery because he did this. It sucked for him. I get nervous every time he tells me he's going to go dead lift.0 -
That's the fat2fit version
^^^ That. I haven't seen it mentioned in a couple of years.
Oh yes, I remember them - they did a ton of podcasts about it0 -
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That's the fat2fit version
^^^ That. I haven't seen it mentioned in a couple of years.
Oh yes, I remember them - they did a ton of podcasts about it
Well I'm not suprised, nothing new under the sun as they say.
I didn't read it from anywhere, I mean its a pretty basic thought really which is why I assumed (as stated) that its probably something that had come up and been talked to death already. Apparently the case from the amount of gif-age0
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