10 Mistakes Women Make in the Gym

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  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    I only take peeks at their articles- and while some of them have solid info- most of them are still poorly written. It makes me shake my head sometimes.
  • eric_sg61
    eric_sg61 Posts: 2,925 Member
    "It's virtually impossible – no matter what you eat – to gain any fat in the post-workout period, which is roughly defined as the hour-long timeframe after you finish lifting weights. "

    Is THIS part true?

    We should eat all of our daily calories in that hour after lifting, then!

    That's another thing that doesn't make much sense.

    I think he just grossly oversimplified. I know after you workout, your body continues the burn for a period of time. For anerobic exercise like lifting, that period is longer and more intense than after doing aerobic exercise like steady state cardio. So you can and should eat after lifting to aid in recovery rather than produce fat. This is only to an extent though. If you leave the gym and eat Thanksgiving dinner regularly, you're probably not going to lose weight.

    Afterburn is grossly overstated though. And this article takes it to a whole new level.
    It is not about afterburn. It is refering to the heightened insulin sensitivity that occurs post-workout. If your in a surplus, you will store fat at some points in time. Throughtout the day the body is either releasing fatty acids or storing them, during post-workout the muscles are absoring the amino acids and glycogen at an increased rate. The article is not taking it to a new level, athletes and bodybuilders have known this for decades which is why some eat their biggest meals post workout.

    It takes time to digest food and have it running through your blood stream. It's not what you eat post workout. It's what you eat through out a day.
    I agree 100% that that is what is most important.
  • Tillyecl1
    Tillyecl1 Posts: 189 Member
    This made me laugh :D

    I am that girl in the free weights and I always shake my head at the quote un quote "cardio queens"

    Not all of us are in this for the same reasons. For example, I really couldn't care less what I look like , I'm sure many people here would class me as 'fat' or 'skinny fat'. But as long as I am fit and healthy I honestly don't give two hoots what people in the gym say about me behind my back. To this end I have chosen competing in endurance triathlons as my exercise of choice. Now, how am I supposed to train for an Ironman without doing large amounts of cardio training and being considered a "cardio queen" by the people doing 'proper' exercises at the gym? And no I don't lift, in fact I avoid the gym entirely these day, mainly because I find it really freaking boring and I would rather be out actually enjoying myself on my bike or running rather than wasting my time on something I don't enjoy, I wouldn't do it with anything else in life so why should exercise be any different?

    In the same way as what everyone else is eating is no business of mine, what my goals are and how I achieve them is nobody else's business but my own. You shouldn't judge people who don't conform to your ideas of what they 'should' be doing because you don't know anything about them.
  • Will_Thrust_For_Candy
    Will_Thrust_For_Candy Posts: 6,109 Member
    I normally have a very high tolerance for articles written by Bros' s but this one I don't care for so much.

    While there are a few very valid points, there is lots of crap too.....but that's just my opinion.
  • Yagisama
    Yagisama Posts: 595 Member
    "skinny fat" :explode:
  • eimaj5575
    eimaj5575 Posts: 278 Member
    BUMP Good read and I def needed to read this today! Thanks!
  • kdiamond
    kdiamond Posts: 3,329 Member
    Love this!

    I rarely work my abs, I throw in a couple 1 minute planks a couple times a week max, and my abs are rock hard. Squats, lunges, and my diet - that's what makes my abs hard.

    Also, while I do change my workouts every 6-8 or sometimes 12 weeks, I stick with it until then. That drives me nuts when people toss their workouts without giving it time. Unless its a really horrible workout plan (and you'll know the first day) I'm sticking with it.
  • melluc2
    melluc2 Posts: 92 Member
    Yep
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
    And that makes no sense. Skinny-fat is an eating problem, not an exercise problem.

    I'm not sure there is an official definition- but I've always referred to people who were clearly small/thin and had no muscle definition what so ever and just looked squishy as "skinny fat" in which case it would be a lack of exercise being the problem.

    That has always been- ever since I ever heard the term back in the 90's, the general premise of the expression.

    Yeah, you are right. Sorry.

    In the context of the article - it's not the running that makes you skinny-fat. It's the unwillingness to fuel the running.

    I have a co-worker who lifts. I run and lift. She's been skinny all her life, I've just lost 40 pounds. Her bone structure is slightly smaller than mine, but we are about the same height. Adjusting for age, we're at the same body fat, even though she looks visibly thinner and is probably a good 30 pounds lighter. It's because she chronically under eats.

    Also, my quads and calves are pretty exciting - from the running.
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
    I mean... the main points of the article make sense in terms of things woman are afraid of in the gym. But all in all, the article is poorly written and the person who wrote it sound extremely closed minded and relies mainly on stereotypes of men ("men are driven by ego, not logic in the gym") and woman, as well... the article is overall extremely insulting and almost shaming to both sexes.

    I've a long time member and poster on t-nation and most of their articles are not well written. Their site exists to sell their product so much of what is written should be taken with a grain of salt.

    That's not to say the article doesn't have elements of accuracy and entertainment but it's really just a bit of fluff.

    This is much better and not about women but about men and women and getting stronger. It also talks to different training for different goals such as marathon running.

    http://www.mensjournal.com/magazine/everything-you-know-about-fitness-is-a-lie-20120504

    Only read the first two pages, but I love, love, love that article!

    One of the great things about my trainer is that she argues with people who want her to work with them three times a week. She is in the business of helping you do the exercise you need in order to reach your potential - not babysitting you through a routine. So, she'll have you do six squats and then have you stretch to release your quads and then make you do them slow on her TRX equipment so you can feel what "right" is, and then have you do a couple balancing moves so your spine and brain really learn the right alignment. She "trains" you.
  • ChrissyC1985
    ChrissyC1985 Posts: 406 Member
    Really good article, thanks for posting this :smile:
  • Leadfoot_Lewis
    Leadfoot_Lewis Posts: 1,623 Member
    #4 is BS but otherwise a good article
  • GeordieGirl80s
    GeordieGirl80s Posts: 120 Member
    It's been quite a few years since I was a regular gym goer but when I did used to go working with weights was by far my preference over cardio. Apart from walking, swimming & tennis (when I can find someone to play it with) I'm not a big cardio fan.
  • Fittreelol
    Fittreelol Posts: 2,535 Member
    The fitness model is making one of 2 mistakes: using iron plates for an oly lift, or using a snatch grip for a deadlift.

    As other posters have noted this article is terribly written. On top of that many of the "mistakes" are only mistakes if your goal is to have a body that is aestheticly pleasing to TC; whomever he may be.
  • DianeinCA
    DianeinCA Posts: 307 Member
    "It's virtually impossible – no matter what you eat – to gain any fat in the post-workout period, which is roughly defined as the hour-long timeframe after you finish lifting weights. "

    Is THIS part true?

    Came here to ask the exact same thing.

    Well, technically the way I was going to phrase it was: "Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?"
  • trishfit2014
    trishfit2014 Posts: 304 Member
    Twenty years ago, I had an aerobics teacher tell me the you can eat anything after working out and I did not believe him. I would love to see some responses to that but I do not believe it.
  • Fitfully_me
    Fitfully_me Posts: 647 Member
    Some will like this, some won't. It is what it is

    http://www.t-nation.com/training/10-mistakes-women-make-in-the-gym

    Interesting read. Thanks for sharing.
  • SnuggleSmacks
    SnuggleSmacks Posts: 3,731 Member
    "It's virtually impossible – no matter what you eat – to gain any fat in the post-workout period, which is roughly defined as the hour-long timeframe after you finish lifting weights. "

    Exactly how long is this magical post-workout period in which I can stuff my face with cheeseburgers with abandon?
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
    "It's virtually impossible – no matter what you eat – to gain any fat in the post-workout period, which is roughly defined as the hour-long timeframe after you finish lifting weights. "

    Exactly how long is this magical post-workout period in which I can stuff my face with cheeseburgers with abandon?

    One hour. And then your tummy turns into a pumpkin.
  • BinaryPulsar
    BinaryPulsar Posts: 8,927 Member
    Ok, I just figured out what it means. It means you can stuff your face and you won't gain any fat during that hour. You will just gain it later.
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    Someone esle used T nation which is frown upon in MFP formus. Good stuff T nation is my weight loss bible.
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
    Ok, I just figured out what it means. It means you can stuff your face and you won't gain any fat during that hour. You will just gain it later.

    Right. I mean, obviously I'm not completely comprehending the argument, but you might end up with a touch more glycogen if you eat within the post workout hour.
  • EmpressOfJudgment
    EmpressOfJudgment Posts: 1,162 Member
    Interesting read. I've just recently gotten seriously back into strength training. This article makes me think I'm doing things right this time. Thanks for sharing!
  • morekettlebell
    morekettlebell Posts: 15
    "but you're ultimately going to have to make an ugly she-wolverine face on the last few highly-productive "money" reps where you coerce muscle into growing. No ugly face, no curvy muscle. No ugly face, no increased strength. Tank your outdated views of femininity. Screw how it looks or what anyone thinks."

    Nice article, the quote above totally cracked me up.....so accurate for me. I get to ugly face stage and decide it's time to slow down instead of giving it all I've got.
  • Sharon_C
    Sharon_C Posts: 2,132 Member
    #2 Fear of Making Ugly Faces

    My teenage kids (who are my workout buddies) always laugh at the strange faces I make as I'm lifting. Good to know I'm doing it right.
  • SPNLuver83
    SPNLuver83 Posts: 2,050 Member
    I love it! The only thing I don't agree on is the oblique and no weights thing. I do side bends with weights and many other moves, and my waist is 26 inches. I've used some on the heavier side as well, although not very often. I do stick to the lighter weights for that part.
  • Ely82010
    Ely82010 Posts: 1,998 Member
    Bump to come back later when I have more time to comment. But I will say that I almost shut down completely as soon as the article referenced "Skinny Fat". This idiotic phrase is one of my pet peeves! And I find it very difficult to take anyone seriously who uses it.
    im not a huge fan of the term either considering is a pretty big oxymoron, but it really is the best way to describe someone who has alot of fat and little muscle

    "Skinny Fat" suggests that someone who chooses to focus on Cardio, which is ok btw, is somehow less than acceptable than those who choose to lift.

    Different people have different plans--whatever works for them, but they don't needed to be labeled. No one calls lifters "buff-fat" if they have some extra weight on them.




    I agree with the above posters. I also shut down when I saw the skinny-fat word; I don't like it either. It seems that in the last couple of years "fat-acceptance and Skinny fat" are the words du jour, and both are being used in a derogatory way.

    The article assumes that everybody has the same goals, and worse, that they should all have the same goal. Honestly, and like another MFP member posted a while back, we spend more time with clothes on than naked so to assume that every woman just exercises to look good in a bikini is too presumptuous and shallow.

    I am all for strength training but sometimes we take things to the extreme. Carry on
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    Bump to come back later when I have more time to comment. But I will say that I almost shut down completely as soon as the article referenced "Skinny Fat". This idiotic phrase is one of my pet peeves! And I find it very difficult to take anyone seriously who uses it.
    im not a huge fan of the term either considering is a pretty big oxymoron, but it really is the best way to describe someone who has alot of fat and little muscle

    "Skinny Fat" suggests that someone who chooses to focus on Cardio, which is ok btw, is somehow less than acceptable than those who choose to lift.

    Different people have different plans--whatever works for them, but they don't needed to be labeled. No one calls lifters "buff-fat" if they have some extra weight on them.




    I agree with the above posters. I also shut down when I saw the skinny-fat word; I don't like it either. It seems that in the last couple of years "fat-acceptance and Skinny fat" are the words du jour, and both are being used in a derogatory way.

    The article assumes that everybody has the same goals, and worse, that they should all have the same goal. Honestly, and like another MFP member posted a while back, we spend more time with clothes on than naked so to assume that every woman just exercises to look good in a bikini is too presumptuous and shallow.

    I am all for strength training but sometimes we take things to the extreme. Carry on

    Skinny fat means as you lose weight you are losing muscle which when you look in the mirror you will see a smaller you but still not look fit and still look fat in places you want to lose fat.
  • chrisdavey
    chrisdavey Posts: 9,834 Member
    The nutrition stuff is dumb but the rest of it is ok.

    Re trx stuff: try doing some of these on a trx and see if they are a "girls" exercise :laugh:
    http://youtu.be/ACH-YzUZJf4
  • chrisdavey
    chrisdavey Posts: 9,834 Member
    "It's virtually impossible – no matter what you eat – to gain any fat in the post-workout period, which is roughly defined as the hour-long timeframe after you finish lifting weights. "

    Exactly how long is this magical post-workout period in which I can stuff my face with cheeseburgers with abandon?

    Around 24hours. The writer is still trying to sell overpriced T-Nation supps to dumb people who think they need to consume all of their nutrients within 59m and 59s.

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