Is my body rebelling against weight loss?
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"While binge eaters are often believed to be lacking in self-control, the root of such behavior might instead be linked to rigid dieting practices. Binge eating may begin when individuals recover from an adoption of rigid eating habits. When under a strict diet that mimics the effects of starvation, the body may be preparing for a new type of behavior pattern, one that consumes a large amount of food in a relatively short period of time." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binge_eating_disorder0
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oh my god....Am I hallucinating? I was just thinking about this same thing this morning...I could have posted it myself...
but I don't think mine was "binge" eating but just ate more to reach to maintenance level on those days...0 -
I don't see it as a roadblock at all. I WANT to lose this weight. It's so little and I'm not really over weight or under. I'm still in a healthy BMR, if a bit on the high side of that BMR range. But I prefer the middle range to the low or the high one. That's why I have so little to lose. I do think I have a lack of self control. I tend to think about food and when I think of it I want it. Hungry or not. This all started when I went on vacation with my family. They all think I'm fine and don't need to lose weight and they tell me I don't need to count calories. I don't need to be so strict. And that's I think where most of my problems started. I gained a few back on that vacation and have been trying to lose it for months but I can't seem to get back my self control I had before that. At first it was all planned. And now it's becomed unplanned mindless eating. I'm not bulimic or anything but really I worked hard to lose 20 kilos and I'd like to keep them off. :-/ Somehow.
me in the exact same situation, wanting to get to the lower side of the BMI...people might throw eggs on BMI, but for normal people like me (not body builder or muscle guy) BMI makes sense as a type of measurment.
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I don't see it as a roadblock at all. I WANT to lose this weight. It's so little and I'm not really over weight or under. I'm still in a healthy BMR, if a bit on the high side of that BMR range. But I prefer the middle range to the low or the high one. That's why I have so little to lose. I do think I have a lack of self control. I tend to think about food and when I think of it I want it. Hungry or not. This all started when I went on vacation with my family. They all think I'm fine and don't need to lose weight and they tell me I don't need to count calories. I don't need to be so strict. And that's I think where most of my problems started. I gained a few back on that vacation and have been trying to lose it for months but I can't seem to get back my self control I had before that. At first it was all planned. And now it's becomed unplanned mindless eating. I'm not bulimic or anything but really I worked hard to lose 20 kilos and I'd like to keep them off. :-/ Somehow.
me in the exact same situation, wanting to get to the lower side of the BMI...people might throw eggs on BMI, but for normal people like me (not body builder or muscle guy) BMI makes sense as a type of measurment.
BMI is a generalization and it'll apply generally to most people.
It's just become very popular to attack BMI and cite the muscular outliers, as if the majority of people will ever be in that category.
Overall a lot of people rebel against the BMI or old height/weight charts because those charts typically tell people that they're fatter than they think, or even their goal weight is.0 -
I don't see it as a roadblock at all. I WANT to lose this weight. It's so little and I'm not really over weight or under. I'm still in a healthy BMR, if a bit on the high side of that BMR range. But I prefer the middle range to the low or the high one. That's why I have so little to lose. I do think I have a lack of self control. I tend to think about food and when I think of it I want it. Hungry or not. This all started when I went on vacation with my family. They all think I'm fine and don't need to lose weight and they tell me I don't need to count calories. I don't need to be so strict. And that's I think where most of my problems started. I gained a few back on that vacation and have been trying to lose it for months but I can't seem to get back my self control I had before that. At first it was all planned. And now it's becomed unplanned mindless eating. I'm not bulimic or anything but really I worked hard to lose 20 kilos and I'd like to keep them off. :-/ Somehow.
me in the exact same situation, wanting to get to the lower side of the BMI...people might throw eggs on BMI, but for normal people like me (not body builder or muscle guy) BMI makes sense as a type of measurment.
BMI is a generalization and it'll apply generally to most people.
It's just become very popular to attack BMI and cite the muscular outliers, as if the majority of people will ever be in that category.
Overall a lot of people rebel against the BMI or old height/weight charts because those charts typically tell people that they're fatter than they think, or even their goal weight is.
I am always on the higher end of my BMI range (healthy but not ideal) hence I always try to lose a few pounds like OP does.0 -
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500 calories a day for two months to get to goal. Are you sure this goal is realistic? Are you positive you don't have an eating disorder? Because this sounds like you do. Plus, the hypotension and anemia can all be attributed to eating disorders, either bulimia or anorexia.
Everyone else reading, what do you think?
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If you read carefully you will see that I said this was before I knew better. I most certainly DO NOT have anorexia, otherwise I would not have a belly like I do now. Or bulimia for that matter. Because seriously the thought of that DISGUSTS me. I've had anemia long before I was even overweight. Since that time I've been eating a lot more. 1700-1900 calories daily. I did not know at the time to which extent calories could be limited as I didn't do sufficient research at the time.
and even though I am not eating 500 cals a day anymore, the dizzyness started then and has not gone away which lead me to believe that it has something to do with that. And perhaps something in my body changed as a result of that. 0 -
Right, I meant BMI above. I always confuse BMR and BMI lol0
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Wow. Choosing to confine eating to six hours per day is the same as vomiting your food. Who knew!0
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IMO...short periods of fasting/eating very few calories are probably find for short periods....it is when you are doing it for long extended times that could cause health issues...I say this from my own experiences...when I was young I could do all kinds of things with little to no consequences....I was a binge eater/faster for 10 years...when I entered my middle age years...health issues started cropping up...IMO some may have resulted from all the abuse I put my body through when young and naive....some post have morphed into a defensive battle field when most here..like myself...only want to help "Is my body rebelling against weight loss" poster..0
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ummm.....posting different opinion on something doesn't always scream as "defense mode", or does it?0
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I truly thought this message board was going to be different...supportive...caring...uplifting...compassionate....I think I will stick with the love and support from my family and friends...I wish you all well and may your journey be blessed with many gifts..0
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I truly thought this message board was going to be different...supportive...caring...uplifting...compassionate....I think I will stick with the love and support from my family and friends...I wish you all well and may your journey be blessed with many gifts..
I wish I had support from my family and friends...0 -
I truly thought this message board was going to be different...supportive...caring...uplifting...compassionate....I think I will stick with the love and support from my family and friends...I wish you all well and may your journey be blessed with many gifts..
People like to bicker on here about some pretty specific topics and trends. You sort of get the feel for the hot buttons within a short time though (should I take X pill, can I eat fewer than 1200 calories, not losing weight and I'm doing everything right, etc.) and then it's not too bad.
If someone comes on and says they are struggling with cravings for instance it rarely turns negative and is often a bunch of friendly people with advice. If someone says they are eating 1000 calories and working out six hours a day while gaining weight the trend is to call that person out for some mistake in their calculations.
There are a few "experts on everything" who loathe the idea of having their advice challenged. I normally just ignore them. Most of us enjoy conversations with like minded people on here and that's what the bulk of the forum posts have been for me so far anyway.0 -
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I always love seeing how someone figures out how everyone thinks and has all the answers after being here for a month.I truly thought this message board was going to be different...supportive...caring...uplifting...compassionate....I think I will stick with the love and support from my family and friends...I wish you all well and may your journey be blessed with many gifts..
People like to bicker on here about some pretty specific topics and trends. You sort of get the feel for the hot buttons within a short time though (should I take X pill, can I eat fewer than 1200 calories, not losing weight and I'm doing everything right, etc.) and then it's not too bad.
If someone comes on and says they are struggling with cravings for instance it rarely turns negative and is often a bunch of friendly people with advice. If someone says they are eating 1000 calories and working out six hours a day while gaining weight the trend is to call that person out for some mistake in their calculations.
There are a few "experts on everything" who loathe the idea of having their advice challenged. I normally just ignore them. Most of us enjoy conversations with like minded people on here and that's what the bulk of the forum posts have been for me so far anyway.
They might have been reading for a while before signing up? just guessin~0 -
I always love seeing how someone figures out how everyone thinks and has all the answers after being here for a month.
I just want you to know that I love you and adore your desire to help others even if, for some reason, it often means being critical of others.
So far you have only implied that I am fat (a long ways to go from my goals) and new (only been here a month). I would like to point out that I also only have an 8th grade education. Am currently unemployed. Have a total of two friends that I am close with. And struggle with self doubt and insecurity all the time.
If beating me up makes you feel better about yourself I truly hope that the additional information about me will help you in your personal journey.
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I only had time to read the first page, so forgive me if this has been suggested, but if you can't seem to eat 250 cals/day less, what about burning 250 cals/day more? Go for a 30 minute run every day and just keep eating at maintenance. Either way you're creating a calorie deficit and the weight will come off.0
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I've not been logging for long on my diary I'm new to this site and this particular food journal this week was me trying 5:2 since it's only two days of dieting. Those were actually planned foods. I'm talking about like the past month when I've been trying to lose weight. on average I eat a healthy breakfast of muesli and yogurt or cottage cheese. a high carb lunch with protein and veggies and dinner would be something like soya mince, veggies or chicken. Snacks are from dried fruit to beef jerky to protein shakes to cheese and fresh fruit. You're right I hadn't eaten well this week, it was a stressful week, but this has been going on for months not just this week.
Do a mean green juice fast drink twice the amount if you have to since you seen to want/need that feeling if being stuffed. Do it for a week and you will be healthier for it and down in weight. Don't forget the kale mmmm.
I hope that's not horrible advice.0 -
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I've not been logging for long on my diary I'm new to this site and this particular food journal this week was me trying 5:2 since it's only two days of dieting. Those were actually planned foods. I'm talking about like the past month when I've been trying to lose weight. on average I eat a healthy breakfast of muesli and yogurt or cottage cheese. a high carb lunch with protein and veggies and dinner would be something like soya mince, veggies or chicken. Snacks are from dried fruit to beef jerky to protein shakes to cheese and fresh fruit. You're right I hadn't eaten well this week, it was a stressful week, but this has been going on for months not just this week.
Do a mean green juice fast drink twice the amount if you have to since you seen to want/need that feeling if being stuffed. Do it for a week and you will be healthier for it and down in weight. Don't forget the kale mmmm.
I hope that's not horrible advice.
Mmm....Greens .... eeek....lol. I HATE greens. I will eat ALL vegetables except leafy greens, with the exception of lettuce. hehe but thanks for the advice regardless0 -
Mmm....Greens .... eeek....lol. I HATE greens. I will eat ALL vegetables except leafy greens, with the exception of lettuce. hehe but thanks for the advice regardless
I'm in the same boat... spinach and me have never bonded. I'm hoping I can work it or kale into a fruit shake eventually and just hide the stuff behind some tasty goodness.0 -
500 calories a day for two months to get to goal. Are you sure this goal is realistic? Are you positive you don't have an eating disorder? Because this sounds like you do. Plus, the hypotension and anemia can all be attributed to eating disorders, either bulimia or anorexia.
Everyone else reading, what do you think?
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If you read carefully you will see that I said this was before I knew better. I most certainly DO NOT have anorexia, otherwise I would not have a belly like I do now. Or bulimia for that matter. Because seriously the thought of that DISGUSTS me. I've had anemia long before I was even overweight. Since that time I've been eating a lot more. 1700-1900 calories daily. I did not know at the time to which extent calories could be limited as I didn't do sufficient research at the time. and even though I am not eating 500 cals a day anymore, the dizzyness started then and has not gone away which lead me to believe that it has something to do with that. And perhaps something in my body changed as a result of that.
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Just keep in mind that eating disorders are not restricted to very thin people. I am not saying that you have one, but the common perception of a person with an eating disorder is that of an emaciated teenaged girl with self-esteem issues--which is not the case! All people are suggesting is that you speak to someone other than "just" a medical doctor to help you get a better idea of what your relationship with food might be. While other people insist that fasting is a healthy means of eating (and I'm not saying it is or it isn't) you do not seem to be going about it in a healthy way or in an informed manner. Good luck in finding a healthy and sustainable manner in which to reach your goals.I don't even know what it feels like to be "hungry every minute of every day". If I'm hungry but don't eat, or am unable to eat, eventually the hunger passes.
How very nice for you. I imagine my hungry feeling had to do with my blood glucose imbalance. If a person's blood glucose level drops too much it can produce a feeling of ravenous hunger that is difficult to satiate. The problem is that many people eat the "wrong" things to fix that feeling, create a blood sugar spike and then have it drop suddenly--exacerbating the problem.
Oh, but I forgot--I'm ignorant and should just keep my fingers still."That I know of" is the key issue with your statement.
People are kind of "damned if the do and damned if they don't" in your corner of the world, aren't they? Make a definitive statement and you're arrogant. Admit you don't know everything about a topic and you're an idiot who shouldn't speak up. Nice way to continue to stir pots and proclaim your superior knowledge as the sole authority in a thread.It seems as if you think like a food addict and assume that "eating anything" must entail eating lots of food and having no responsibility for a greater nutritional profile.
Wow. Just . . . wow. And may I add . . . wow?
That's because you ultimately don't really know what you're talking about. Baring any major health issues, IFing is very safe. Lots of athletic people, people with above average fitness profiles, IF.
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I see. I'm glad you cleared up my confusion on my omniscience. Thank you.ummm.....posting different opinion on something doesn't always scream as "defense mode", or does it?
No, it typically means the person posting has a different perspective or just doesn't see the point in posting the 100th "I agree" post.
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The person above specifically ASSUMED I have anorexia or bulimia. ASK me if I have it, or if I think I have it, but don't TELL me I have it based on what you've read or assumed. Also. If you read correctly, I said I was trying fasting for a week, to see if I can stick with it. To try it. I have only been fasting for 2 days. This was because I know people who does this method prefers restricting two days instead of everyday, and I thought since I over eat most of the time, this would be ideal and easier. Thus it's a little soon to tell me that I'm not approaching it in a healthy way. The previous period when I restricted as much I understood it literally as calories in vs calories out and that's it. Besides that, I hadn't even considered that I was fasting at all. As I also said. Some of the answers made me realize that it may be due to me not being alert and "present" at all times. Also, I would like to add that I find this thread quite amusing even though my question has been answered long ago and it's still ongoing
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The person above specifically ASSUMED I have anorexia or bulimia. ASK me if I have it, or if I think I have it, but don't TELL me I have it based on what you've read or assumed. Also. If you read correctly, I said I was trying fasting for a week, to see if I can stick with it. To try it. I have only been fasting for 2 days. This was because I know people who does this method prefers restricting two days instead of everyday, and I thought since I over eat most of the time, this would be ideal and easier. Thus it's a little soon to tell me that I'm not approaching it in a healthy way. The previous period when I restricted as much I understood it literally as calories in vs calories out and that's it. Besides that, I hadn't even considered that I was fasting at all. As I also said. Some of the answers made me realize that it may be due to me not being alert and "present" at all times. Also, I would like to add that I find this thread quite amusing even though my question has been answered long ago and it's still ongoing unexpected.
How can your question be answered when your story keeps changing? *shrugs*0 -
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Everyday it's a new person to argue with.
Pot. Kettle
Still adds up to MYOB.
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I've only been fasting for this week. As a last resort. Before this I've been cutting a very small amount daily (100-250 calories) in an attempt to fool myself into thinking that I'm eating @maintenance. But I guess my brain can't fool my brain :-/
My story keeps changing? How exactly? ^^ this is a quote I took from myself, something I've said on the first page of this thread. The only ones changing my story are the ones who don't seem to be able to READ correctly. sorry if I misunderstood you, but to me it seems you're implying that I keep changing my story. If not please correct me on what you meant. 0 -
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Everyday it's a new person to argue with.
Pot. Kettle
Still adds up to MYOB.
Cheers.
I actually respond rudely to threads. You actually spend countless post arguing back and forth. Kind of surprised considering you're not a kid anymore you sure like to argue like one.
As someone apparently much wiser than I once said (and I'm paraphrasing) no one is forcing you to read what I write. If you don't like my posts you can always put me on ignore.
OP, I honestly don't care any longer. I said what I did because I was concerned about your health. I truly believe that you need to talk to a medical professional and a mental health counselor about your relationship with food before going on to "tricking yourself" or any other unhealthy means of eating. Eating at a deficit is what will help you lose weight. C'est tout. Log your food, if it helps or wave your magic wand over your plate and disappear half the calories. It's all the same to me. You're determined to do as you wish, regardless of what other people say. So, because I'm not getting $90 for a 50-minute hour with you, it's here that I nod and say, "If that's what you want, it sounds like a plan."0
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