Sugar addict here.....

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  • LoupGarouTFTs
    LoupGarouTFTs Posts: 916 Member
    Metabolizing food produces waste. Waste, if not filtered by the body, can become "toxic" to the body. It is not toxic in and of itself if the body is doing its job.

    The nitrogen compounds through which toxic nitrogen is eliminated from organisms are ammonia, urea and uric acid. All of these substances are produced from protein metabolism.

    Ammonia(NH3) forms with the oxidation of amino groups (NH2), which are removed from the proteins when they convert into carbohydrates. It is a very toxic substance and only one nitrogen atom is removed with it. A lot of water is needed for the ammonia excretion. Thus, the marine organisms excrete ammonia directly in the water (aminothelic organisms), while the terrestrial (mainly amphibians and mammals) convert ammonia into urea, a process which occurs in the liver and kidney.

    Urea is a less toxic compound than ammonia; two nitrogen atoms are eliminated through it and less water is needed for its excretion. Urea is a protein metabolism product at vertebrates and part of the invertebrates. These organisms are called ureothelic.

    Uric acid is a protein metaporposis product of terrestrial invertebrates, birds and diapsids. Such animals are called uricothelic organisms. In humans and anthropoides, this acid is purine metabolism product. Uric acid is less toxic than ammonia or urea; it contains four nitrogen atoms and a small amount of water is needed for its excretion. Out of solute, it precipitates and forms crystals.

    Nice job copying and pasting. It's still just waste unless the body stops filtering it and eliminating it on its own.
  • VeganCappy
    VeganCappy Posts: 122
    Still a toxin.
  • LoupGarouTFTs
    LoupGarouTFTs Posts: 916 Member
    Still a toxin.

    If you say so. But no, not really.
  • AglaeaC
    AglaeaC Posts: 1,974 Member
    Still a toxin.
    You might benefit from reading how differently the body handles metabolic waste products and toxins such as bacterial toxins. Like Loup said, normal metabolism is normal and there are no problems until the process no longer works.
  • VeganCappy
    VeganCappy Posts: 122
    Still a toxin.
    You might benefit from reading how differently the body handles metabolic waste products and toxins such as bacterial toxins. Like Loup said, normal metabolism is normal and there are no problems until the process no longer works.

    Yeah, I will ignore science and my decades of studying nutrition for the uneducated opinions of people on an internet forum.
  • AglaeaC
    AglaeaC Posts: 1,974 Member
    Still a toxin.
    You might benefit from reading how differently the body handles metabolic waste products and toxins such as bacterial toxins. Like Loup said, normal metabolism is normal and there are no problems until the process no longer works.

    Yeah, I will ignore science and my decades of studying nutrition for the uneducated opinions of people on an internet forum.
    Thanks, you're so kind.
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  • VeganCappy
    VeganCappy Posts: 122
    Still a toxin.
    You might benefit from reading how differently the body handles metabolic waste products and toxins such as bacterial toxins. Like Loup said, normal metabolism is normal and there are no problems until the process no longer works.

    Yeah, I will ignore science and my decades of studying nutrition for the uneducated opinions of people on an internet forum.
    Lol. Decades of studying nutrition. But wait, weren't you unhealthy then became a vegan? So you have been a vegan for decades?

    How can we believe someone who can't even show you they have applied their "educated" nutrition ideas to himself?

    If science isn't enough for you, then you are hopeless.
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  • LoupGarouTFTs
    LoupGarouTFTs Posts: 916 Member
    Human Body Waste, Metabolic Waste Products for Excretion

    Human body waste products and excretion may not be a pleasant topic of conversation. However, monitoring what comes out is a valuable tool, for instance you can assess your body’s response to what you take in or an abnormality can be a sign of a health issue. This health blurb covers basic information about waste and its excretion, including metabolic waste.

    Human waste is any substance your body does not need to maintain homeostasis. Excretion is the process of removing these unwanted products through either the skin, urinary system, respiratory system or gastrointestinal system. The primary organs involved in waste removal are liver, kidneys, lungs, intestines and skin. Sometimes, human body produced waste is referred to as toxic because of the potential health effects caused [by] insufficient removal.

    http://www.healthblurbs.com/human-body-waste-metabolic-waste-products-for-excretion/
  • VeganCappy
    VeganCappy Posts: 122
    There ya go. You just learned that human waste is a toxin.
  • LoupGarouTFTs
    LoupGarouTFTs Posts: 916 Member
    There ya go. You just learned that human waste is a toxin.

    It's just waste until it's not removed properly. Ah well . . . there are none so blind as those who refuse to see. :)
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,029 Member
    Metabolizing food produces waste. Waste, if not filtered by the body, can become "toxic" to the body. It is not toxic in and of itself if the body is doing its job.
    THIS. I believe that people get confused when they speak of "toxins" in the body.

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  • seashel812
    seashel812 Posts: 25
    Sugar increases formation of AGEs which ironically contribute to aging. This is when glucose binds irreversibly to the amino acids on red blood cells.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,029 Member
    Still a toxin.
    We have arsenic (from just about any we are exposed to and eat) in our bodies in very minute amounts. Same with iodine. Both are toxic. But eating certain foods, etc. won't rid it from our bodies. That's what our own filtering system is for. At this point I think we're just dealing with semantics.

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  • VeganCappy
    VeganCappy Posts: 122
    It is still a toxin. Your argument is like saying that arsenic is not a toxin until it is taken in high enough quantities. The toxicity of a substance does not change the fact that it is still a toxin.
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  • LoupGarouTFTs
    LoupGarouTFTs Posts: 916 Member
    It is still a toxin. Your argument is like saying that arsenic is not a toxin until it is taken in high enough quantities. The toxicity of a substance does not change the fact that it is still a toxin.

    By that reasoning, water is a toxin.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,029 Member
    It is still a toxin. Your argument is like saying that arsenic is not a toxin until it is taken in high enough quantities. The toxicity of a substance does not change the fact that it is still a toxin.
    Actually let me restate. Arsenic and iodine are POISONS. "Toxins" are derived from living organisms that manufacture them. So while we may have metabolic waste that may be termed as "toxin", toxicity still is dependent on dosage.
    If you're looking just for the "win" on metabolic waste as a toxin, then pat yourself on the back. I believe it's still semantics

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  • kgeyser
    kgeyser Posts: 22,505 Member
    :huh: Too much of certain vitamins can make you sick, so I guess they are poisonous too, since apparently the presence, not dosage, is now the only thing that matters.
  • seashel812
    seashel812 Posts: 25
    You don't have to be the usual older, overweight, sedentary person to develop type 2 diabetes. I was diagnosed with pre-diabetes when I was 21, 5'4 and a whopping 118 pounds. I ran 6 days a week. No one would ever have suspected me because I was so thin and athletic. My doctor told me to cut back on the carbs and refined sugars (which when I look back on my diet I ate a lot), and I've been good ever since. Sugar is nasty stuff.
  • SonicDeathMonkey80
    SonicDeathMonkey80 Posts: 4,489 Member
    Human Centipede worked with toxins. I'd post a pic but I'm pretty sure that would get me banned for life.
  • _Terrapin_
    _Terrapin_ Posts: 4,301 Member
    Vegan Cappy: do you write for statemaster? If not, maybe it is easier to provide a link:

    http://www.statemaster.com/encyclopedia/Metabolic-waste
  • FunkyTobias
    FunkyTobias Posts: 1,776 Member
    It is still a toxin. Your argument is like saying that arsenic is not a toxin until it is taken in high enough quantities. The toxicity of a substance does not change the fact that it is still a toxin.

    It isn't. Arsenic is an essential trace mineral.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7682827

    Context matters. Dosage matters.
  • newb01
    newb01 Posts: 22
    I am a carb addict myself. Portion control and healthy "sweet stuff" is they key.

    A few things...sugar free Jello 5-10 calories a serving. With Redi Whip Fat Free only another 5 calories!

    Protein bars . ...portion controlled but they can add up quick! Watch it.

    Fruit of course...some artificial sweetner plus berries and some Redi Whip = WOW.

    Banana Ice Cream...no not the flavor...what you make the ice cream out of. Lots of variations.

    Green Smoothie = Kale or Spinach with an Apple + a little artificial sweetner if you like it sweet.

    I like Fiber One Fiber Cereal for 60 calories a serving.

    Also Lemonaid with Splenda will satisfy my sweet tooth some.
  • pleasurelittletreasure
    pleasurelittletreasure Posts: 236 Member
    If you've got to have cake, angel food cake is nice. Low cal and sweet enough to tangle the sweet tooth. Munch on a slice with some strawberries and happiness ensues.
  • LoupGarouTFTs
    LoupGarouTFTs Posts: 916 Member
    If you've got to have cake, angel food cake is nice. Low cal and sweet enough to tangle the sweet tooth. Munch on a slice with some strawberries and happiness ensues.

    Carefully slice off the top one to two inches of the angel food cake. Set aside. Scoop out a trough through the center of the angel food cake. Set the chunks aside. Make sugar-free strawberry gelatin, partially set it, add the chunks of angel food cake. Fill the trough with gelatin/angel food mix. Replace the cake top. Refrigerate overnight (or at least till gelatin is set). Frost with Cool-Whip or something similar. Garnish with fresh strawberries.

    mmmmmmmm . . .
  • Happy_Niss
    Happy_Niss Posts: 95 Member
    I was having a similar problem.
    Still am, but at least since I switched from candy to protein bars, I am getting protein too! :laugh:
  • fluteoboe4000
    fluteoboe4000 Posts: 3
    Luna Bars are the BEST! I prefer the Smores ones, but my sister LOVES the Lemon Zest ones. Try them out!!

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