Doing WW, but don't love the new system

WalkingAlong

I still cannot get past 5 points=2 TBSP of peanut butter; just hurts my head. And folks routinely talk about crashing(wrestler pre-weigh in) just to make weight. I would think MFP is just going to be easier and more realistic in the long run.

Remember, too, that most men would have over 50 points/day to play with, and their produce isn't using that up. I think most non-obese women over 40 (or younger, too) have learned that on any diet, 2T of PB off a spoon or on bread is a costly snack.

SquirrelBrain

I've lost significant amounts of weight using both WW old and current point system. As I reached my goal weight using the new system I found if I didn't add some of the fruit as points then I would plateau and stop losing weight. This seemed to be a common complaint when the introduced the newer point system.

I recently ended my WW subscription to save money and found MFP as an alternative. I have to say I'm loving the MFP Food Diary as there's so much more in it that WW and the barcode scanner is much better. The WW scanner rarely worked for me but so far the MFP hasn't failed me (I've only been using it 2 weeks or so).

The only thing I miss about WW is the accountability of a weekly weigh in. So, I signed up for a couple of DietBet games - they have dates set where you have to submit weigh-ins (with a photo) and that is keeping me accountable for now!

I also much prefer the MFP Forums since you get different perspectives rather than just the WW way (you couldn't even post points values of food on the WW forum).

MyMalfunction7

Wow, it's super weird how this turned into everyone trying to cajole you into using MFP instead! I'm glad WW works for you, but I do agree that them not including fruit and vegetables as points seems off.

I will also point out, though, that I used to eat a ton of fruits, but avoid them now that I'm on MFP because they just don't feel worth the calories anymore. Food for thought.

robbda

Hey

I'm 3 weeks in and i'm doing ok 4lb in total so far

I used MPF before and although it was fab I think I needed to go and face someone else weighing me to keep me on the straight and narrow, I have started off well and then lost heart on my own so I'm trying the £10 a month meetings & online pass this month (21.95 next - i think I might see what just the meeting cost is)

Basically(if you dont know) Simple start is for 2 weeks and that uber low fat anything you want and 2 treats a day then you move on you can either go the old way - get a set amount of points and track everything that passes your lips or do "filling and healthy" which is all the simple start foods being zero points and then other food has points and you are given a weekly "treat allowance" you can also track point earned through work outs and either swap them for more food or not for both options

I am enjoying the food and the meetings at the moment, I work in the city so they don't hold a meeting as such - they camp out at a local church pretty much all day 3 days a week and i often have the guy to myself for 30 mins when I go for my weigh in - talking about problems I've had or tips or whats new so I guess i'm lucky. I'm finding it easier to have a list of "yes" food as I'm that person that will look at a oreo or an apple and eat the oreo straight off... and a the moment I genuinely think its working... I am 3 weeks clean of chocolate which is massive for me and.... shocking of all I don't FANCY IT - which is unheard of I'm hoping the more i don't eat it the more I won't fancy it and will treat it as a treat rather than a daily must have.

BUT I miss you guys the forums aren't as good so i'm on here mainly for the support, ideas and fun side (hope you don't mind!)

ItsJordanNicole

You can always input the nutritional values of the fruits you eat in the point calculator and get the point values and track them that way. It's your choice. I was also advised at a WW meeting that if you have more than 5 servings of fruit you need to track them.

cmccool54

One year ago, at 59, I started my current weight loss journey. On a day that I needed to go somewhere, anywhere I could find support to take that first step, I went to a WW meeting. The leader was very funny and animated and she made everyone in the room feel like she was talking to them and I could feel the love. Not all leaders can do this. I was blessed to have chosen this location. I followed WW for 8 months and during that time lost 19 pounds (this included the holidays and a Disney post retirement vacation) and most important found a piece of myself that was lost. The group definitely helped me get on my feet and pointed in the right direction. I did struggle with the zero points for fruit and also the fact that 1 serving could be one point but two servings could then become three points. WW explains this is due to rounding process. That was my big hang up. February 2014, it was always dark and cold when it was time for a meeting and, being in post retirement phase of my life, I just did not want to leave my warm house to drive to a WW meeting. That is when I started using the MFP ap and working my butt off on my treadmill. In the last 4 1/2 months, I lost another 16 pounds. I have my ups and downs and accept that my weight loss journey will never be perfect. I love the MFP projected weight loss that only looks forward. It does not drag you down for what you might have messed up on yesterday, it only looks forward from the end of the current day and ahead for the 5 week projection. That is the greatest motivation for me - seeing that message everyday that reassures me that the math supports I can be successful on this journey. We should each stay with what works for us and also recognize that sometimes there are different recipes for success and also that sometimes those recipes need adjusting for our current environment. Today is the first day I visited the "Community" of MFP and I am so glad that I did. I see that MFP has its own support group and that is awesome. I hope this information is helpful to you and that you continue your journey whether it is with WW, MFP or a combination of the two. You are very wise because you recognize that fruits must be counted and nothing in life is really free. I know the WW leader I had did always use that as an explanation for not losing........well, consider cutting back on those zero point items. Well for me that meant they were not really zero and I did not want to be part of an experiment to find out. The most important thing is that you and I and everyone in this MFP Community are working on our health and the rest will come. Have a healthy day !

alycat30

For me, simply because I'm used to WW, counting points is so much easier. Im so aware of what points are, that I don't even have to look things up most of the time. I never bought into the whole fruit is free thing though. I'm pretty sure that only one or two servings is what they considered actually "free" but because of its wording people ran with it. I prefer the Flex plan myself.

To me, whether your on WW, counting points, counting calories, doing Jenny Craig, etc, they are all just tools to get you there.

One of my biggest gripes I see people on this site say is "you can't count points forever, so I switched to mfp" uhh what? If you can't count points forever, what makes you think calories will be any different? No matter what your doing to track your food, if you binge eat and stop caring/tracking, your going to gain weight back.

Also most people that snark about WW have never done it and have no clue. "Look at all the people that gain weight back, it doesn't work". You know why they gained it back? They ate to much. Just like people around here do when they stop tracking. It's not the programs, it's the people.

I personally like the support here better! I don't want to pay for meetings, and DO have an app, but that's lacking in "support on the go". The WW messageboards are filled with mean women who spend all day on there making fun of people. It's been that way since the dawn of the boards haha

Anyway, I love WW and think MFP is great. I just had to chime in to keep going