Childhood Obesity= CHILD ABUSE
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I think we should start licensing pregnancy, so only the people who can afford children and who are physically fit can reproduce.
I like this idea!!!
plus we could have mandatory sterilization for stupid fat people....0 -
I was a fat kid BECAUSE my mom kept trying to push her diets on me. When I was 8 until I was out of the house. These ads are just shaming and ridiculous.0
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I think we should start licensing pregnancy, so only the people who can afford children and who are physically fit can reproduce.
I like this idea!!!
plus we could have mandatory sterilization for stupid fat people....
I feel like this isn't a new idea for some reason.... I can't quite remember where I've heard this before....0 -
I think we should start licensing pregnancy, so only the people who can afford children and who are physically fit can reproduce.
I like this idea!!!
Me too!!!
Hitler LOVED this idea. Implemented it too.0 -
What's actually child abuse is raising your kids to be Red Sox fans.0
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I think we should start licensing pregnancy, so only the people who can afford children and who are physically fit can reproduce.
I like this idea!!!
Which is horrifying.
But you'd be denied your license anyway because your unusual hair color and have more than 5 pounds to lose, so.0 -
"No, your face does." David Spade, Tommy Boy
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Not happy with the fat cats, either.0
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Boy what a can of worms. I'm shocked and worried as much as the next person when I go places and see overweight families--not just kids. But is it really abuse when it's lack of education or lack of income? Maybe the kids are sneaking into food when no one's home to say no. Maybe there are emotional or physical (medical) reasons we don't know about. I can see it now...the Obese Police :frown:0
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There are four categories of child abuse- emotional, physical, sexual and neglect.
I happen to agree that allowing a child to reach the stage of obesity (we're talking obesity here, not being chubby, or overweight but a child being obese) is a type of neglect and is therefore abusive.
I trained as a social worker and did part if my training was done in a primary school. If a child came to school and they were clearly under nourished alarm bells would ring immediately. It is wrong to not feed your child enough because it is bad for their health, why then should it be deemed acceptable for a child to be fed so much that they become obese. Children today are getting type 2 diabetes for goodness sake.. if that isn't abusive I don't know what is.
That said, does that make the parents of obese children unloving abusers who need their children removed from their care? Of course not. Many parents who are physically abusive don't realise that they are and can be educated on better parenting techniques, a parent suffering from crippling depression might not be able to care for their children properly, are they an abusive person? Again, no. Should they seek out help for their children of course.
The issue is with education, and if a parent is unaware of how to help their child maintain or reach a healthy weight then they should find help or educate themselves. If they fail to do so they set their child ul for a life of obesity and all the may many associated health risks. That is irresponsible, it is neglectful and in my opinion it is abusive.0 -
Nevermind.0
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Wait a second? I'm to blame for my fat cat? What do you think I do, hold her down and shove kibble in her mouth?
You know when she got fat? When I took her in, spayed her and forced her into a sedentary indoor lifestyle. Lack of activity kills, but there is no way I could replicate the exercise she got outdoors.
Extremely simple solution. Feed the cat less food. If its fat, its overeating. As the one providing the food, yes, its absolutely on you.0 -
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apologies for typos, I'm using my phone0
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OP must not have children. Otherwise she would not suggest having children taken from their family for being overweight.
I have a friend with 3 daughters and everyone in their family is overweight. My son is 6, pretty well filled out and weighs less than 50 lbs. They have a 7 or 8 year old who is close to 100 pounds. Everyone in that family is obese because they overeat. It pisses me off that they let their children get that way but they are still loving, supporting parents. Do they deserve to have their children taken? No. Are they potentially creating major struggles in their children's lives by teaching them unhealthy lifestyles? Yes.0 -
This is a real child. A child that posed for this advertisement. Don't we have enough shame to go around already? It will take a while to get everyone on board with a solution - but this is NOT the way. Foster care is not the answer.0
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In situations like that something needs to be done, despite what the media says, children are not whisked off to a foster carer the minute a problem arises, there is a lot of supportive intervention first and I think this should be in place for families with obese children.0
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In situations like that something needs to be done, despite what the media says, children are not whisked off to a foster carer the minute a problem arises, there is a lot of supportive intervention first and I think this should be in place for families with obese children.
I think government should mind their own business. Seriously?? The obese police?0 -
Wait a second? I'm to blame for my fat cat? What do you think I do, hold her down and shove kibble in her mouth?
You know when she got fat? When I took her in, spayed her and forced her into a sedentary indoor lifestyle. Lack of activity kills, but there is no way I could replicate the exercise she got outdoors.
Extremely simple solution. Feed the cat less food. If its fat, its overeating. As the one providing the food, yes, its absolutely on you.
I hoped the guy who was helping by pointing out irony yesterday would need to step in... Except. No.0 -
OP must not have children. Otherwise she would not suggest having children taken from their family for being overweight.
I have a friend with 3 daughters and everyone in their family is overweight. My son is 6, pretty well filled out and weighs less than 50 lbs. They have a 7 or 8 year old who is close to 100 pounds. Everyone in that family is obese because they overeat. It pisses me off that they let their children get that way but they are still loving, supporting parents. Do they deserve to have their children taken? No. Are they potentially creating major struggles in their children's lives by teaching them unhealthy lifestyles? Yes.
OP does not have children - she said so in a previous thread she made criticising recipes on Facebook.0 -
OP must not have children. Otherwise she would not suggest having children taken from their family for being overweight.
She is just really pissed off at her parents. This isn't the first post like this.0 -
Wait a second? I'm to blame for my fat cat? What do you think I do, hold her down and shove kibble in her mouth?
You know when she got fat? When I took her in, spayed her and forced her into a sedentary indoor lifestyle. Lack of activity kills, but there is no way I could replicate the exercise she got outdoors.
Extremely simple solution. Feed the cat less food. If its fat, its overeating. As the one providing the food, yes, its absolutely on you.
Have you ever tried that with a cat? Do you know what happens? The cat sleeps more. You can feed them the most ridiculously small amounts of food and they will be damned if they lose any weight. They will eat the tomatoes on the counters first. They will poop in your bed.0 -
Wait a second? I'm to blame for my fat cat? What do you think I do, hold her down and shove kibble in her mouth?
You know when she got fat? When I took her in, spayed her and forced her into a sedentary indoor lifestyle. Lack of activity kills, but there is no way I could replicate the exercise she got outdoors.
Extremely simple solution. Feed the cat less food. If its fat, its overeating. As the one providing the food, yes, its absolutely on you.
There's a reason there are recommended amounts on the package. And if that's too much, decrease it. No offense, and kudos to you for taking her in and taking good care of her!. It's just that you can also help her to lose weight. :flowerforyou:0 -
Wait a second? I'm to blame for my fat cat? What do you think I do, hold her down and shove kibble in her mouth?
You know when she got fat? When I took her in, spayed her and forced her into a sedentary indoor lifestyle. Lack of activity kills, but there is no way I could replicate the exercise she got outdoors.
I have a spayed and a neutered cat... and they aren't overweight... why because I provide places for them to jump and climb (I allow my tabby on the refrigerator and he commonly jumps to the highest point in the room... and I don't give them more than then recommended amount of food for the day... sometimes less if our "fat" calico has been into the dog food again... who does get more food than he can eat, simply because that dog is a sheltie and he has the energy of a chihuahua...0 -
I have 4 children and I agree it is the parents responsibility to teach their children how to eat and to get them active. I also think schools fail them in the exercise. Gym is only 2 days a week and they only get one 15 minute recess daily. I think an hour of physical activity should be required every day of school.0
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Let's see ... obesity is an "illness." The government knows better than you how to parent your children. And if you "can't" afford "healthy" food, that's also a fault with "the system," and is yet another problem we should ask the government to solve.
Wow. The Nanny State has caught you hook, line, and sinker.0 -
I hate the misuse of the word "abuse"
it's like some people think that there are only two categories "good parenting" and "abuse" - i.e. more of the dichotomous thinking that seems to be so prevalent nowadays
parenting is on a scale, from excellent, to bad, with abuse at the very end of the bad end of the range. Most people who overfeed their kids are not being abusive, they;'re caring, attentive parents, who are giving their kids too much food, or not giving them enough opportunities to do physical activity. If those parents are going to be categorised as abusive, then what about the parents who don't check if their kids have done their homework, so the kid gets a detention the next day, or gets low grades when they should have got higher grades... is that abuse too? I mean seriously, I know you have to draw the line somewhere, but there's no such thing as a perfect parent (the scale I mentioned at the start of this paragraph starts at excellent) and some parents are better informed, better organised, better at guiding their kids and all that than others... but that doesn't make less good parents abusive.
To be honest I think it's insulting to people who have lived through child abuse for relatively trivial things to be classed as abuse. And yes I know childhood obesity itself is not a trivial issue, but overfeeding kids and failing to give them enough opportunities to do physical activity are not the result of parents not giving a damn about their kids or deliberately harming their kids. If anything, these mistakes come from love (too much food, well you feed kids because you don't want them to be hungry and you want to give them treats..... lack of opportunity to exercise, a lot of parents have exaggerated ideas about dangers to kids to they keep them indoors where it's safe, plus their kids want all this technology that keeps them on their backside staring at a screen, and they love their kids and want them to have nice things). They're actually quite common errors, and also bear in mind this is the inevitable result of modern society where we can get all the things we want delivered to our door and we don't actually have to do any physical activity any more... childhood obesity is part of a much wider social problem, in that we've become a society of lazy fat-arses. Even lots of people who don't look fat have too high a body fat percentage, so that comment about our society doesn't just apply to people who look obese - it applies to everyone who's sedentary no matter what actual size they are. Childhood obesity is because of this.
We live in a society where it takes effort to not be fat, and the sooner people accept that, the sooner they're going to start making that effort. And with kids the emphasis IMO should be on encouraging physical activity rather than trying to control what they eat, which can easily cause kids to have a bad relationship with food that makes obesity even harder to fight. Of course parents should provide healthy meals and limit high calorie snacks, but IMO the main emphasis needs to be on encouraging physical activity. And not just to stay thin because being sedentary is unhealthy for a whole lot of different reasons, not just increasing the risk of becoming obese.0 -
I disagree with you on this, but that's just me. I don't think someone should have their kid taken away and put into foster care just because they're fat.
I agree that it can be child abuse, but also agree that removing the child from the home would be a horrible solution. Luckily, that is not the only option.0
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