Any tips on upping protein without fat? (Vegetarian!)
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I cant see anyone has mentioned milk? If you're worried about fat intake then maybe skimmed milk.0
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peanut butter is high in fat though0
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The high protein thing is a total myth. It's going to get converted into glucose anyways.
But if you are that worried about protein, all your veggies have a surprisingly high amount of protein in them.
:huh:
I'm interested in the evidence that excess protein gets converted into glucose? Not being smart - just wondering if you have evidence?0 -
black beans!
low in fat high in so many good things.
you can make them into fat free refried beans or bean dip. or add them to salads, even make them into breads.
also if you dont make your own hummus do so, it is easy as pie and you can control the fat content. commercial hummus is usually really really high in fat not to mention preservatives and sodium. its also cheaper. really you can make a batch in 5 minutes. and use less olive oil and add water for moisture. (but you do need some olive oil). experiment with a few small batches until you get what you like then you can add more flavors too.0 -
im pretty sure it CAN get converted to glucose when needed but it doesnt unless your body is in defecit. (in respons to the protein to glucose comment)
anyway i studied notrition in college and remember that vaguely i might be wrong.0 -
artichokes... yum. they are like the meat of the green plants world. or no wait. not really. still artichokes. and artichokes are incredibly filling and satisfying too. and flavorful enough on their own to not need anything added.
lots of veggies are high in protein so you dont really have to have a set protein source in a meal if you balance right0 -
black beans!
low in fat high in so many good things.
you can make them into fat free refried beans or bean dip. or add them to salads, even make them into breads.
also if you dont make your own hummus do so, it is easy as pie and you can control the fat content. commercial hummus is usually really really high in fat not to mention preservatives and sodium. its also cheaper. really you can make a batch in 5 minutes. and use less olive oil and add water for moisture. (but you do need some olive oil). experiment with a few small batches until you get what you like then you can add more flavors too.
Thanks for all the tips with Black beans... I will have to look up. As an aside, I make my hummus with no oil. Tahini, garlic, lemon juice, and water. Yummo. Just make sure you have enough water, otherwise you shrivel up. Traditional hummus actually doesn't have oil.
desert candy. blogspot. com. au/2007/07/hummus-dilettante.html0 -
Eggs, greek yogurt, beans, spinach, tofu, fat free cheese.0
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Thanks - I will try the eggs! I love peanut butter but sadly that seems to blow my fat allowances. I don't eat fish
There is a powdered peanut butter product made by Bell Plantations that you can mix with water, thus drastically cutting back the fat. It's called PB2. I have a taste for peanut butter in my oatmeal, and I just put a couple tablespoons of this instead.
http://www.bellplantation.com/nutrition0 -
Beans. And they are full of fiber.
And carbs. Protein powders come from whey if you're allowed to drink milk. If you're not allowed, there are protein powders made from soy. But I'm not sure if those are COMPLETE proteins.0 -
The high protein thing is a total myth. It's going to get converted into glucose anyways.
This is overwhelmingly false. Proteins (amino acids from proteins, really) *can* be converted to glucose, but this is usually done only during starvation or conditions of acute glucose deprivation (look up "gluconeogenesis"). It's a much more inefficient process than converting carbohydrates to glucose; your body is going to instead reuse amino acids you ingest from protein sources, in turn, to create more proteins (i.e. muscle fibers, enzymes, structural molecules, etc.).
Please study your biochemistry before making such grandiose comments.0 -
TVP - Textured vegetable protein!0
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The high protein thing is a total myth. It's going to get converted into glucose anyways.
But if you are that worried about protein, all your veggies have a surprisingly high amount of protein in them.
:huh:
I'm interested in the evidence that excess protein gets converted into glucose? Not being smart - just wondering if you have evidence?
It's called gluconeogenisis.0 -
If meat substitutes don't freak you out, I like the gardein brand stuff. The have all sorts of mock meats (chicken, turkey, beef, fish) that usually have high protein and some carbs but lower fat. I think they taste pretty good, but a few of the vegans I know think they taste too "realistic", if that makes any sense to you.0
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Cottage cheese is also a good source of protein. You can get a low-fat or fat free version. I love it on salads:) I also like mlo vegan protein powder and Spirutein. Quest bars and Pure Protein chocolate bars aren't bad, either.0
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Indeed!The high protein thing is a total myth. It's going to get converted into glucose anyways.
Source?
As a vegan I find "The high protein thing is a total myth" premise to be annoying as it has been said around me in RL and on social networks time and time again! I ask people to back up their claims with science and they will direct me to a blog or YouTube video that more often than not will have anecdotal evidence with little to no scientific basis...and then go onto describe how our needs for "protein" is a conspiracy cooked up by the meat industry to make us consume animal products...even tho there are plenty of vegan/vegetarian options for protein sources and anyone who has the inclination to study basic biology or nutrition will see that protein plays an invaluable role in the human body and the RDA for protein is more often than not understated.
ETA: Awaits vegans and vegetarians to call me Judas.0 -
Try adding chia seeds.0
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About the fish...some people eat it occasionally because it is wild caught, so it lived a full and wild life before being caught for food. Not farmed. And fish have very small brains.0
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Quinoa! It's superb.
Love your soy.
And embrace the power of Quorn.0 -
I use whey protein. Skimmed milk cheese is ok as is Quorn.:flowerforyou:0
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And why do people want vegetarians to eat fish?
Being a vegetarian is a life choice, not something I want to switch on and off.
Just saying...:ohwell:
Some people don't consider fish meat because it isn't warm blooded. I personally think this is silly though, because I mean, what is it then? A vegetable?
Indeed the fish thing is weird "nothing with a face" is my rule
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And why do people want vegetarians to eat fish?
Being a vegetarian is a life choice, not something I want to switch on and off.
Just saying...:ohwell:
Some people don't consider fish meat because it isn't warm blooded. I personally think this is silly though, because I mean, what is it then? A vegetable?
Indeed the fish thing is weird "nothing with a face" is my rule
People eating fish in a mainly vegetarian diet are pescatarians I believe but the term is not used that much. I regularly hear people talk about being vegetarian and eating fish
Its either because they don't think the people who they are talking too will understand pescatarian or they dont understand it themselves.0 -
http://michaelbluejay.com/veg/protein-strength.html
"Vegan diets have plenty of protein for muscle-building
Plant foods supply plenty of protein even for athletes and those trying to build muscle, according to numerous studies in peer-reviewed journals. The amount of protein recommended even for athletes by official nutrition and sports bodies is easily supplied by vegetables. Anyone who says otherwise simply hasn't bothered to look up what the science actually says.
It's true that meat has more protein than vegetables, but more isn't better, it's useless. The excess you eat beyond what you need is simply wasted. If you're shopping for a car, and one goes 200 mph and the other goes 400 mph, the faster car isn't better, because you're not allowed to drive even 200 mph anyway. Two hundred mph is more than you need for a car, and plant foods supply more protein than you need from food. As one science journal said, "...protein beyond that necessary to maintain nitrogen balance does not provide additional benefits for athletes."10
Simple math makes this clear. We simply figure the amount of muscle you can build, how much protein is in that new muscle, and then how much extra protein you'd have to eat to account for that new muscle. When we do that, we see that, not surprisingly, the amount of extra protein you'd need to build the muscle is right in line with what the authorities recommend. (Click to see an example of the math.)
The US RDA for protein suggests 63 grams of protein a day for a 175-lb. man. If that man wanted to build 1.5 lbs. of dry muscle a month (which would be optimistic!), that would be another 23 grams a day, for a total of 86 grams, or 366 calories from protein, which is not much. It's only 12.2% of a 3000-calorie/day diet. Not surprisingly, the 12% figure is close to what the experts recommend. And when we look at food, we see that vegetables average nearly twice that (22%)."
15% protein is plenty!0 -
I'm not clear on why you are afraid to add fat when there are lots of good fats, that are actually beneficial, such as nuts and nut butters.
I agree. I would focus more on reducing the sugar then worrying about the fats (save trans fats and polyunsaturated vegetable oils like safflower and canola which are now being shown to have some health detriments as they are typically heavily processed and unnatural to the human diet). Tofu, tempeh, raw dairy, eggs WITH the yolks that's were all the good nutrients are, nuts, seeds, cottage cheese, hemp protein powder.0 -
I recommend quinoa if you want vegetarian high protein...I love this salad:
http://www.cookingquinoa.net/spinach-quinoa-tabbouleh/0 -
check out the morning star brand, they have some soy based "sausages" that are really good and their black bean burgers too
egg whites
low fat cheese/other dairy
beans
granola/granola bars with added protein (nature valley is doing this now)
bagels actually have a fair bit for a bread item0 -
I use Vegan One Protein Shake its so good i get the vanilla chi one0
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Black beans, pink beans, refried beans, etc. I mix cooked black beans with sauteed onions and peppers and sofrito, and some taco seasoning, then puree for homemade refried beans.0
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I'd also just consider eating a little fish now and again while you're losing weight. That's what I did and it sped things along so well. Just food for thought.
What plant do fish come from? Lol
Ha ha!
People suggest fish to my vegetarian husband too and we also make this comment.
However, some vegetarians actually do eat fish. They have their reasons, I guess.0 -
Also, for anyone looking to replace some favorite staples with protein-boosted versions:
Protein Pow - High protein cakes, cookies, bars, and more
http://proteinpow.com/
7 Foolproof Protein Sweets (Bodybuilding.com article)
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/7-foolproof-protein-sweets.html?mcid=facenutrition020629140
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