Exercise and Broken Metabolism
albayin
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Just hypothetically speaking, say if I had damaged metabolism, if I lift weight, or running every day, would that compensate some of the damages?
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Running, no. Lift and eat.
Are you sure you have metabolic damage? Has a doctor told you that you do?0 -
Running, no. Lift and eat.
Are you sure you have metabolic damage? Has a doctor told you that you do?
I don't know...I have been wondering about this for quite some time.. I work out every day, either lifting, running or kickboxing, sometimes twice a day. I watch what I eat, but i haven't lost one pound after like 3 years...0 -
i had body media core for a while and it consistenly says I burn 2500-2800 a day. I ate 1200-1800 during those days, scale didn't budge...0
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It depends.
Metabolic modifications may be due to over exercise, stress, mitochondrial defects, etc...
Increased LBM will compensate somewhat and create an increase in metabolism. Cardio burns calories.
You'll have to be clearer about what makes you think you have a "broken" metabolism and what you think "compensation" means.
The good news is that metabolisms are rarely broken or "un-fixable".0 -
Running, no. Lift and eat.
Are you sure you have metabolic damage? Has a doctor told you that you do?
I don't know...I have been wondering about this for quite some time.. I work out every day, either lifting, running or kickboxing, sometimes twice a day. I watch what I eat, but i haven't lost one pound after like 3 years...
I'm pretty sure she meant lift and eat an adequate amount of calories.0 -
i had body media core for a while and it consistenly says I burn 2500-2800 a day. I ate 1200-1800 during those days, scale didn't budge...
How well are you logging?
How long did this go on?
Did you change routines in this period?
Did you see absolutely zero weight change?0 -
I figured that I have been eating at maitenance for these past 3 years, or it doesn't explain why I am not losing even one ounce...Then my maintenance level is really low, like 1800 low...this sucks.0
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I figured that I have been eating at maitenance for these past 3 years, or it doesn't explain why I am not losing even one ounce...Then my maintenance level is really low, like 1800 low...this sucks.
How much do you weigh?0 -
I figured that I have been eating at maitenance for these past 3 years, or it doesn't explain why I am not losing even one ounce...Then my maintenance level is really low, like 1800 low...this sucks.
How much do you weigh?
um....thank you for your reply...but I am not comfortable to say my weight...:) I am borderline over weight for my height and frame.0 -
I figured that I have been eating at maitenance for these past 3 years, or it doesn't explain why I am not losing even one ounce...Then my maintenance level is really low, like 1800 low...this sucks.
How much do you weigh?
um....thank you for your reply...but I am not comfortable to say my weight...:) I am borderline over weight for my height and frame.
Well, it's difficult to give you an answer without the numbers, and without really knowing how well you log.
But in all likelihood you aren't really tracking your weight and calories closely. (Not a criticism, but it's difficult to understand that your weight hasn't fluctuated in three years)
Anyway, let's say you are eating and logging exactly 1800 and you are in the perfect plateau. You can either increase cardio (not likely a good idea if you are already very active) or like GS says, increase resistance training and try to gain some LBM which will impact your metabolism positively.0 -
I figured that I have been eating at maitenance for these past 3 years, or it doesn't explain why I am not losing even one ounce...Then my maintenance level is really low, like 1800 low...this sucks.
How much do you weigh?
um....thank you for your reply...but I am not comfortable to say my weight...:) I am borderline over weight for my height and frame.
If you are borderline overweight I take it you mean you are not overweight? Occording to you ticker you want to lose 20lbs so asuming you mean you want to go hight "bmi" to lower "bmi"? The reason I say this when to body is at low bf% body trys to keep hold of what little fat is left.
Now to answer you origonal question, the only real way for fixing a "broken" metabolism if it broken is to add lbm. Ive read somewhere but can't be 100% that 1lb of LBM burns roughly 6 calories, so the only way to increase you metabolism is to add LBM ie muscle.0 -
"Metabolic damage" has become a scare tactic used to market all kinds of snake oil. Google metabolic damage and of the thousands of hits virtually all are trying to sell you something. Even many of the sites that say it is a myth are also trying to sell you something! What you will not find are any credible medical articles based on sound scientific research (Dr. Oz is NOT a credible source on anything!). Does dieting slow your metabolism? Yes it does and this is well-documented. However, it is your body's entirely natural response to caloric restriction and not "damage". Eat a little more and exercise including strength training.
Disclaimer: I am not an MD but I do have a doctorate in biology with graduate coursework in nutrition and energetics. FWIW IMHO the science of human nutrition is light years behind what we know about the nutrition of farm animals. We know exactly how much and what to feed a steer to affect it's rate of growth, fat content, marbling, and flavor. Same with many other animals. Scientists working with humans are at a disadvantage because they cannot ethically do the kinds of research that has advanced animal nutrition (i.e. feed animals certain food, and then slaughter them and determine their body composition or keep them in metabolic cages for weeks collecting feces and urine, measuring gas production etc.)
Finally, never ever believe anything that you read on the internet without doing your own research, including what I just wrote :-)0 -
I figured that I have been eating at maitenance for these past 3 years, or it doesn't explain why I am not losing even one ounce...Then my maintenance level is really low, like 1800 low...this sucks.
How much do you weigh?
um....thank you for your reply...but I am not comfortable to say my weight...:) I am borderline over weight for my height and frame.
If you are borderline overweight I take it you mean you are not overweight? Occording to you ticker you want to lose 20lbs so asuming you mean you want to go hight "bmi" to lower "bmi"? The reason I say this when to body is at low bf% body trys to keep hold of what little fat is left.
Now to answer you origonal question, the only real way for fixing a "broken" metabolism if it broken is to add lbm. Ive read somewhere but can't be 100% that 1lb of LBM burns roughly 6 calories, so the only way to increase you metabolism is to add LBM ie muscle.
yes, pretty much~ I want to be at the lower end of BMI.0 -
Borderline overweight by what measure? Are you comfortable saying your BMI? Is that you in the photo? If so, you haven't lost weight because you have no excess weight to lose. And I say that in all kindness and as someone who cares.I figured that I have been eating at maitenance for these past 3 years, or it doesn't explain why I am not losing even one ounce...Then my maintenance level is really low, like 1800 low...this sucks.
How much do you weigh?
um....thank you for your reply...but I am not comfortable to say my weight...:) I am borderline over weight for my height and frame.0 -
Borderline overweight by what measure? Are you comfortable saying your BMI? Is that you in the photo? If so, you haven't lost weight because you have no excess weight to lose. And I say that in all kindness and as someone who cares.I figured that I have been eating at maitenance for these past 3 years, or it doesn't explain why I am not losing even one ounce...Then my maintenance level is really low, like 1800 low...this sucks.
How much do you weigh?
um....thank you for your reply...but I am not comfortable to say my weight...:) I am borderline over weight for my height and frame.
by the "useless BMI" standard.
I know you have been kind to me always~ thank you~0 -
I don't know...I have been wondering about this for quite some time.. I work out every day, either lifting, running or kickboxing, sometimes twice a day. I watch what I eat, but i haven't lost one pound after like 3 years...
wow and they say exercise determines everything O.o ..following this.
who says that? :sad: apparently not true...0 -
I want to weight less because I want to run faster, like breaking 9 min pace for my 10K or do more chin-ups.0
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Borderline overweight by what measure? Are you comfortable saying your BMI? Is that you in the photo? If so, you haven't lost weight because you have no excess weight to lose. And I say that in all kindness and as someone who cares.I figured that I have been eating at maitenance for these past 3 years, or it doesn't explain why I am not losing even one ounce...Then my maintenance level is really low, like 1800 low...this sucks.
How much do you weigh?
um....thank you for your reply...but I am not comfortable to say my weight...:) I am borderline over weight for my height and frame.
^This.
If that's you in your picture, you aren't going to lose weight because you have no weight to lose. Our bodies aren't mean to lose weight- especially women.
All you can try to do is add lean muscle.0 -
http://www.metaboliceffect.com/metabolic-damage-symptoms/
It would be helpful to know what others have asked. You height, weight, maybe your current 10k pace.0 -
Borderline overweight by what measure? Are you comfortable saying your BMI? Is that you in the photo? If so, you haven't lost weight because you have no excess weight to lose. And I say that in all kindness and as someone who cares.I figured that I have been eating at maitenance for these past 3 years, or it doesn't explain why I am not losing even one ounce...Then my maintenance level is really low, like 1800 low...this sucks.
How much do you weigh?
um....thank you for your reply...but I am not comfortable to say my weight...:) I am borderline over weight for my height and frame.
^This.
If that's you in your picture, you aren't going to lose weight because you have no weight to lose. Our bodies aren't mean to lose weight- especially women.
All you can try to do is add lean muscle.
I wish this were true "no weight to lose". I have big jiggling thighs and butt. My friends are smaller and thinner than me at same age, but they mange to lose more pounds than me by just running 2 miles a day...they made me feel stupid...I must be doing something wrong.0 -
http://www.metaboliceffect.com/metabolic-damage-symptoms/
It would be helpful to know what others have asked. You height, weight, maybe your current 10k pace.
THANK YOU:flowerforyou:
I read this article. and it looks like I fit in "metabolic resistance" the most...sigh...:frown:0 -
OK so I don't have broken metabolism. I just eat too much...but the amount of food I eat every day barely keep me alive and not wanting to kill people...:( should I eat less? I guess that's the only outlet now...0
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I think BMI can be 'useless' for for the very muscular among us, when it tells you you're overweight but the truth is you're just muscular. For the other 95% of us, I think it's very useful.
Borderline overweight by what measure? Are you comfortable saying your BMI? Is that you in the photo? If so, you haven't lost weight because you have no excess weight to lose. And I say that in all kindness and as someone who cares.I figured that I have been eating at maitenance for these past 3 years, or it doesn't explain why I am not losing even one ounce...Then my maintenance level is really low, like 1800 low...this sucks.
How much do you weigh?
um....thank you for your reply...but I am not comfortable to say my weight...:) I am borderline over weight for my height and frame.
by the "useless BMI" standard.
I know you have been kind to me always~ thank you~
I have a teen daughter who is a twig who thinks her thighs and butt are fat, too. I think it's just the curse of young women. Sadly.
I don't mean this at all to diminish your concerns but I think it's just something we grow out of. Women are all shaped differently, we are not our friends, and we all have fat, by design. You rarely love the fat parts but you learn that they matter very little in life, in the big picture. And to anyone besides ourselves, they don't matter at all. In all likelihood, someday you'll look back and kick yourself for wasting any thought at all on it. Your body WORKS and that's what you come to appreciate. Be kind to yourself.
(Does losing weight really help you run faster? Sprinters look kinda huge!)
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I think BMI can be 'useless' for for the very muscular among us, when it tells you you're overweight but the truth is you're just muscular. For the other 95% of us, I think it's very useful.
Borderline overweight by what measure? Are you comfortable saying your BMI? Is that you in the photo? If so, you haven't lost weight because you have no excess weight to lose. And I say that in all kindness and as someone who cares.I figured that I have been eating at maitenance for these past 3 years, or it doesn't explain why I am not losing even one ounce...Then my maintenance level is really low, like 1800 low...this sucks.
How much do you weigh?
um....thank you for your reply...but I am not comfortable to say my weight...:) I am borderline over weight for my height and frame.
by the "useless BMI" standard.
I know you have been kind to me always~ thank you~
I have a teen daughter who is a twig who thinks her thighs and butt are fat, too. I think it's just the curse of young women. Sadly.
I don't mean this at all to diminish your concerns but I think it's just something we grow out of. Women are all shaped differently, we are not our friends, and we all have fat, by design. You rarely love the fat parts but you learn that they matter very little in life, in the big picture. And to anyone besides ourselves, they don't matter at all. In all likelihood, someday you'll look back and kick yourself for wasting any thought at all on it. Your body WORKS and that's what you come to appreciate. Be kind to yourself.
(Does losing weight really help you run faster? Sprinters look kinda huge!)
I think my cardiovacular level is very good so with lighter mass to move, I can run faster...that's just my guess. I need to lose weight to prove...LOL catch-22 thing huh?0 -
You can always try a metabolic reset. That means eat maintenance (plus exercise calories) for about two weeks before attempting a deficit again.0
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Borderline overweight by what measure? Are you comfortable saying your BMI? Is that you in the photo? If so, you haven't lost weight because you have no excess weight to lose. And I say that in all kindness and as someone who cares.I figured that I have been eating at maitenance for these past 3 years, or it doesn't explain why I am not losing even one ounce...Then my maintenance level is really low, like 1800 low...this sucks.
How much do you weigh?
um....thank you for your reply...but I am not comfortable to say my weight...:) I am borderline over weight for my height and frame.
^This.
If that's you in your picture, you aren't going to lose weight because you have no weight to lose. Our bodies aren't mean to lose weight- especially women.
All you can try to do is add lean muscle.
I wish this were true "no weight to lose". I have big jiggling thighs and butt. My friends are smaller and thinner than me at same age, but they mange to lose more pounds than me by just running 2 miles a day...they made me feel stupid...I must be doing something wrong.
When it comes to weight loss, you can't compare yourself to others. Everyone loses weight at different speeds. So you have no reason to feel stupid!!
Big thighs and a big butt are mostly genetics. I was 97 lbs & 14% BF my whole life and I still had large thighs and a big ole booty.
Since you've had such a difficult time losing weight (I can relate), it wouldn't hurt to check in with your doctor and see if they will test your thyroid and hormone levels. It could be something as simple as an under-active thyroid or high cortisol levels.0 -
Borderline overweight by what measure? Are you comfortable saying your BMI? Is that you in the photo? If so, you haven't lost weight because you have no excess weight to lose. And I say that in all kindness and as someone who cares.I figured that I have been eating at maitenance for these past 3 years, or it doesn't explain why I am not losing even one ounce...Then my maintenance level is really low, like 1800 low...this sucks.
How much do you weigh?
um....thank you for your reply...but I am not comfortable to say my weight...:) I am borderline over weight for my height and frame.
^This.
If that's you in your picture, you aren't going to lose weight because you have no weight to lose. Our bodies aren't mean to lose weight- especially women.
All you can try to do is add lean muscle.
I wish this were true "no weight to lose". I have big jiggling thighs and butt. My friends are smaller and thinner than me at same age, but they mange to lose more pounds than me by just running 2 miles a day...they made me feel stupid...I must be doing something wrong.
When it comes to weight loss, you can't compare yourself to others. Everyone loses weight at different speeds. So you have no reason to feel stupid!!
Big thighs and a big butt are mostly genetics. I was 97 lbs & 14% BF my whole life and I still had large thighs and a big ole booty.
Since you've had such a difficult time losing weight (I can relate), it wouldn't hurt to check in with your doctor and see if they will test your thyroid and hormone levels. It could be something as simple as an under-active thyroid or high cortisol levels.
I had it checked every year and everything is in normal range. I had my cortisole checked as well...
thank you for understanding..I know I shouldn't compare myself to others but surrounding by small people (my culture group) it's hard to be big and heavy...and the worst of all you have to listen to these "skinny bi***" whining every day how "fat" they are...:brokenheart:0 -
Looking in the mirror is a better indicator of improvement than looking at a scale. Also it is highly likely that the estimate of calories burned from exercise is incorrect. Are you pushing yourself in the gym? Are you out of breath when you complete an exercise? Also when you workout do you feel sore the next day? If not you probably aren't hitting the weights hard enough.0
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You can always try a metabolic reset. That means eat maintenance (plus exercise calories) for about two weeks before attempting a deficit again.
I think I may have done this unintentionally when I was on vacation for a couple of weeks each time...but I could have done it totally wrong...0 -
Looking in the mirror is a better indicator of improvement than looking at a scale. Also it is highly likely that the estimate of calories burned from exercise is incorrect. Are you pushing yourself in the gym? Are you out of breath when you complete an exercise? Also when you workout do you feel sore the next day? If not you probably aren't hitting the weights hard enough.
I am so paranoid that I don't trust my mirror and pictures because angles and lightings are deceiving...I only trust scale or clothes, ironically.
I don't know if I have pushed to my limit. I can run 10 miles with no break, or deadlift 120 failing at 6th rep...I guess I can always push myself further...0
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