End of the day and not enough calories?
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Thanks everyone for the suggestions, I appreciate it.
I should have clarified, I'm less worried about the exercise calories than I am for the minimum. Today, have only eaten 560 calories so far. Not out of starvation, but things like.. my bananas aren't ripe, the pineapple chunks at Sam's were spoiled by a bad case so I didn't get any this week.
My TDEE is even higher than the 1200 calories - it's telling me 1494.
Yes, the dairy-free sucks. I asked Publix if they could stock some dairy-free yogurt, so we'll see if they get that in. The dairy-free ice cream is ok, just no where near as yummy as all the other flavors. My peanut butter preference was always the fresh ground - it tastes better that way, but unfortunately, one of the things I discovered is that peanuts contributed to stomach pain. Maranatha unsweetened almond butter isn't too pricey at Costco, so as long as I don't go crazy with it, I'm ok.0 -
Your TDEE is 1494? Or your TDEE - 20% is 1494?
Also, why don't you give us a list of things you can't eat for dietary reasons, and then people can make suggestions for ways to add calories to fit within your requirements.
But personally, I am of the "eat what you want if it fits within your goals" camp and am not a fan of arbitrarily restricting foods that one deems not beneficial. so my suggestions are more likely to be along the lines of wine and cookies (since you said ice cream is out).0 -
Any nut butter. Crackers. Ice cream/sorbet. Pop Tarts. Noodles. A snickers bar. The high-calorie options are endless. Pick one and enjoy.0
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I don't understand this. I only have 700 more calories left for the day and I'm sad about it.
Me neither. Like I've said on the countless other "I can't eat enough" posts, I work out harder just so I can eat more. x20 -
It's not a matter of "eating to eat". It's a matter of eating to fuel your body and retain your muscle (including vital organs) and retaining your health....
A lot of people seem to catch issues being able to eat their caloric amount because they start using trivial words like "good" and "bad". Those words are meaningless. Nutrient density is really the focus and doesn't eliminate any foods from a diet. Does it limit? Sure. I certainly couldn't maintain my health on eating nothing but pizza. I also couldn't eating nothing but apples. It's about balance.0 -
Have a bowl of ice cream tonight. Or peanut butter. Or a bowl of cereal...etc. I really don't understand how some people find this to be so hard. It's not.
Or a bowl of vanilla ice cream with peanut butter and granola mixed in
You'll thank me tomorrow!
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Any nut butter. Crackers. Ice cream/sorbet. Pop Tarts. Noodles. A snickers bar. The high-calorie options are endless. Pick one and enjoy.
Poptarts... droooool0 -
The answer is planning your meals and logging them ahead of time.
I fall in this trap when I don't plan my meals out. I'll happily eat a salad, a coffee, some fruit and another salad and call it a day. Then when I log after the fact it's like 900 calories, and I have a problem.
If you're having trouble finding calories, start adding back in full fat foods. No reason to eat reduced fat everything.0 -
If you're under for the day, and not hungry, go to bed and just bank the difference. Being exactly at your calorie level every day is not important, as long as your weekly totals are where they need to be. You might feel hungrier than normal the next day, and can allow yourself an extra snack.0
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I'm new here. What is TDEE?
I was in the same boat last night OP. I ate a handful of mixed nuts and a couple of rice cakes as a night snack and still came in 500 calories under. Also I don't like to eat my calories at night. That seems to always make me gain weight. So I am trying to add things to the breakfast cookie I make to make it higher in calories. Also add coconut oil to my smoothies.0 -
Be ready for some super judgmental people on here! I posted something similar.. I got a lot of backlash..
I tend to have this problem too. A few tips people have told me that are helpful- add stuff to your regular meal. If you are having chicken and veggies tonight.. sauté the veggies in olive oil- that will add about 100 calories give or take a few.. and use a sauce on your chicken.. this can add anywhere from 50-200 calories to a regular meal without in fact eating "more food"
Don't stuff yourself to you are sick like I am sure people are advising you- but after dinner if you still have a little room you can make a peanut butter and jelly on one piece of wheat bread. That is about 200 calories and can serve as a dessert0 -
Average all of your calories out for the week. If you have to go out to lunch one day, and it puts you over on your calories, that will cancel out the day before or after where you didn't get to eat as much.0
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Your TDEE is 1494? Or your TDEE - 20% is 1494?
Also, why don't you give us a list of things you can't eat for dietary reasons, and then people can make suggestions for ways to add calories to fit within your requirements.
But personally, I am of the "eat what you want if it fits within your goals" camp and am not a fan of arbitrarily restricting foods that one deems not beneficial. so my suggestions are more likely to be along the lines of wine and cookies (since you said ice cream is out).
In general, I cannot eat: any dairy (not just lactose); peanuts; benzoates; melons of any sorts; peppers; or raw cucumbers, onions, and almonds.
This is the last week of challenges for the elimination diet, so currently, I am eating fruits, vegetables, meats and fish, and some grains/rice. I'll be able to add back in eggs, nuts, almond butter, gluten, and things like that next week.0 -
I'm not following...OP needed a quick way to add more calories to her diet at the end of the day. My advice was to her.
I wasn't even offering advice, I was just pointing out that I burn more calories than I eat every day and that for me it doesn't make sense to add those calories back into my diet. I personally don't see the point of eating a bunch of food I don't want when I'm not hungry and need to lose some weight.
Some people do like to force feed themselves to lose weight and more power to them, different strokes for different folks is all.
I'm not following your logic here, at all.
Your calorie amount, if you're using MFP, has already calculated a deficit for you (based on your "how much you want to lose" data) and bases that amount on your day to day activity. The calories you get from exercise are meant to be eaten back. Are you suggesting you net negatively? That's. ..not right at all.
It's not a matter of "eating to eat". It's a matter of eating to fuel your body and retain your muscle (including vital organs) and retaining your health....
A lot of people seem to catch issues being able to eat their caloric amount because they start using trivial words like "good" and "bad". Those words are meaningless. Nutrient density is really the focus and doesn't eliminate any foods from a diet. Does it limit? Sure. I certainly couldn't maintain my health on eating nothing but pizza. I also couldn't eating nothing but apples. It's about balance.
Yeah I normally eat between 1700-1900 calories a day and burn between 1000-3000 a day. I ride my bike a few hours a day and keep getting better stronger faster so any ill effects of eating well and getting lots of exercise are taking a while to manifest.
For me, in my situation, if I were to eat back the extra 1000-3000 calories a day, I'm not really sure what the imagined health benefits would be and how they would aid in my weight loss and fitness goals.0 -
Be ready for some super judgmental people on here! I posted something similar.. I got a lot of backlash..
I tend to have this problem too. A few tips people have told me that are helpful- add stuff to your regular meal. If you are having chicken and veggies tonight.. sauté the veggies in olive oil- that will add about 100 calories give or take a few.. and use a sauce on your chicken.. this can add anywhere from 50-200 calories to a regular meal without in fact eating "more food"
Don't stuff yourself to you are sick like I am sure people are advising you- but after dinner if you still have a little room you can make a peanut butter and jelly on one piece of wheat bread. That is about 200 calories and can serve as a dessert0 -
I'm not following...OP needed a quick way to add more calories to her diet at the end of the day. My advice was to her.
I wasn't even offering advice, I was just pointing out that I burn more calories than I eat every day and that for me it doesn't make sense to add those calories back into my diet. I personally don't see the point of eating a bunch of food I don't want when I'm not hungry and need to lose some weight.
Some people do like to force feed themselves to lose weight and more power to them, different strokes for different folks is all.
I'm not following your logic here, at all.
Your calorie amount, if you're using MFP, has already calculated a deficit for you (based on your "how much you want to lose" data) and bases that amount on your day to day activity. The calories you get from exercise are meant to be eaten back. Are you suggesting you net negatively? That's. ..not right at all.
It's not a matter of "eating to eat". It's a matter of eating to fuel your body and retain your muscle (including vital organs) and retaining your health....
A lot of people seem to catch issues being able to eat their caloric amount because they start using trivial words like "good" and "bad". Those words are meaningless. Nutrient density is really the focus and doesn't eliminate any foods from a diet. Does it limit? Sure. I certainly couldn't maintain my health on eating nothing but pizza. I also couldn't eating nothing but apples. It's about balance.0 -
I never eat all my calories. I also don't deprive myself of things I like. I just don't eat so much of them. Helps me stay on track. If I cut things out I like, I would end up quitting all of this. But I do agree that peanutbutter is a good way to go but since you can't have that, eat a high fiber muffin or some cereal. It will help.0
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Are you hungry? Do you feel irritable, weak, fatigued?
1) Hunger pangs are based on your "normal" intake. This is why someone who is just starting a diet feels like they are especially hungry. After a week or so of a new habit, the normal shifts, and your hunger pangs are based on your new habits. In short, if you're new to your diet, hunger isn't the most accurate indicator. (Sometimes it never is.)
2) Irritability, weakness, and fatigue are all signs that you actually could use a calorie boost in the form of healthy snacks and/or additions to your meals. Don't use them as an excuse to add in some extra cheat food. You're feeling that way because you need something wholesome food gives.
3) Numbers are not made of magic, and your body is good at dealing with famine. We put on weight so easily because of years of evolution favoring humans whose bodies prepared them for bad times. Both a blessing and a curse--we don't really experience those bad times anymore in first world countries, and there's no evolution backing putting down the pie. All that said, 1200 is not particularly a special number, your BMR probably varies by as much as 100 calories from the next person your height and weight, so there's no reason to worry overmuch about one day going below your calorie requirements. Making a habit of it would be bad, but a day here and a day there, it's really not going to somehow turn you into a marshmallow because of "starvation mode"
4) Keep in mind that MFP's database of exercises is all estimation and may or may not reflect how many actual calories you burned. If you want a more accurate estimate, I recommend an HRM of some sort. Even then, there's not necessarily a need to eat back every exercise calorie. Maybe just finish your workout and have an apple with peanut butter if you feel like it.
5) Losing weight is stressful for your body. It's supposed to be. It wants to hold onto energy in case of worse times ahead. Anytime you're in a calorie deficit, there's a chance you're going to just feel like poop. You can mitigate it by lessening the deficit, eating at least your BMR, and eating back some (if not all, doesn't have to be though) your exercise calories. Just don't accidentally add back in too much food to see any weight loss0 -
Your TDEE is 1494? Or your TDEE - 20% is 1494?
Also, why don't you give us a list of things you can't eat for dietary reasons, and then people can make suggestions for ways to add calories to fit within your requirements.
But personally, I am of the "eat what you want if it fits within your goals" camp and am not a fan of arbitrarily restricting foods that one deems not beneficial. so my suggestions are more likely to be along the lines of wine and cookies (since you said ice cream is out).
In general, I cannot eat: any dairy (not just lactose); peanuts; benzoates; melons of any sorts; peppers; or raw cucumbers, onions, and almonds.
This is the last week of challenges for the elimination diet, so currently, I am eating fruits, vegetables, meats and fish, and some grains/rice. I'll be able to add back in eggs, nuts, almond butter, gluten, and things like that next week.
I don't know if you will like this answer but if your TDEE is 2054, 20% less than that, based on what you have to lose, is reasonable, if not a little aggressive... means your daily goal should be around 1640. Now with that, you wouldn't eat back any exercise calories - and while it might be more calories than you are used to right now, it would give you the ability to plan your days a little better and not be caught with extra calories at the end of the night that you feel obligated to use.
My other suggestion of cookies and wine still stands though.0 -
I don't eat unless I'm hungry. I burn a few thousand calories a day riding my bike around and don't quite get the logic of eating a tub of ice cream and a pound of bacon everyday to lose weight.
I'm trying to find the post advocating for eating a tub of ice cream and pound of bacon every day?
How big would my bowl of vanilla ice cream with peanut butter and granola mixed in need to be to get to 2000 extra calories? Bacon was just my idea, I figured I would burnout on ice cream after the first 1000-1500 calories.
A "tub" of ice cream is usually a half gallon (4 pints), although some manufacturers no produce 1.5 quart (3 pints) tubs instead. A pound of bacon, cured and pan-fried, is about 2,400 calories.
So now I'm in to see a link to the post advocating approximately 6,500 calories of ice cream and bacon to round out the last-minute needs of a 1,200-calorie dieter who's a few hundred under net at the end of the night.0 -
Be ready for some super judgmental people on here! I posted something similar.. I got a lot of backlash..
I tend to have this problem too. A few tips people have told me that are helpful- add stuff to your regular meal. If you are having chicken and veggies tonight.. sauté the veggies in olive oil- that will add about 100 calories give or take a few.. and use a sauce on your chicken.. this can add anywhere from 50-200 calories to a regular meal without in fact eating "more food"
Don't stuff yourself to you are sick like I am sure people are advising you- but after dinner if you still have a little room you can make a peanut butter and jelly on one piece of wheat bread. That is about 200 calories and can serve as a dessert
I can't speak for all but to me it's not the annoyance of this type of topics but rather hard for me to empathize with people who have "hard time" to eat a fairly small amount of food. And often these people aren't really anorexic or incapable to eat more food...I get it that they try to do this in the correct way and have fear of eating more but it's just really really hard for someone like myself who struggles to stay within food limit every day to walk in those shoes...0 -
I tend to focus more on the calories over the entire week that way I don't worry too much about being under my net on one day. Also, the exercise calories on MFP are notoriously high, so keep an eye on that and maybe only plan on eating back half of them.0
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A pint container of Jeni's Ugandan Vanilla Bean is 1,040 calories; a pint of Dark Chocolate (which would be my choice with a nut butter, because that's how I roll) is a bargain at only 920. Add 5-6 ounces of peanut butter, and you're easily there. Leaving no room for granola, which is awesome because I don't like granola in my ice cream.
A "tub" of ice cream is usually a half gallon (4 pints), although some manufacturers no produce 1.5 quart (3 pints) tubs instead. A pound of bacon, cured and pan-fried, is about 2,400 calories.
So now I'm in to see a link to the post advocating approximately 6,500 calories of ice cream and bacon to round out the last-minute needs of a 1,200-calorie dieter who's a few hundred under net at the end of the night.
When did I suggest that the OP eat foods to make up for my caloric deficit? I was talking about my caloric deficit. I would rather not eat the thousands of extra calories a day allotted. As her post expressed concern over a few hundred calories, I was attempting to offer some perspective from my experience thus far.
Do you just want to wrestle or something?0 -
Your TDEE is 1494? Or your TDEE - 20% is 1494?
Also, why don't you give us a list of things you can't eat for dietary reasons, and then people can make suggestions for ways to add calories to fit within your requirements.
But personally, I am of the "eat what you want if it fits within your goals" camp and am not a fan of arbitrarily restricting foods that one deems not beneficial. so my suggestions are more likely to be along the lines of wine and cookies (since you said ice cream is out).
In general, I cannot eat: any dairy (not just lactose); peanuts; benzoates; melons of any sorts; peppers; or raw cucumbers, onions, and almonds.
This is the last week of challenges for the elimination diet, so currently, I am eating fruits, vegetables, meats and fish, and some grains/rice. I'll be able to add back in eggs, nuts, almond butter, gluten, and things like that next week.
Fattier meats, like ribs, dark-meat chicken, and steak, would give you more calories than leaner meats.
For sheer calorie content, fruit juices are quick and easy.
No almonds or peanuts, ok. Are other nuts an option? Like cashews or macadamia nuts? What about sunflower seeds?0 -
Just eat a few spoonfuls of coconut butter or nut butter, you'll be at your calorie goal in no time.0
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My general rule is, if I'm not hungry, I don't eat. If I am hungry, then I eat. I use MFP in a very general way....to log food and exercise and talk to others who are doing what I'm doing. MFP tells me quite often that I'm not eating enough calories yet my body feels satisfied so I listen to my body.0
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Be ready for some super judgmental people on here! I posted something similar.. I got a lot of backlash..
I tend to have this problem too. A few tips people have told me that are helpful- add stuff to your regular meal. If you are having chicken and veggies tonight.. sauté the veggies in olive oil- that will add about 100 calories give or take a few.. and use a sauce on your chicken.. this can add anywhere from 50-200 calories to a regular meal without in fact eating "more food"
Don't stuff yourself to you are sick like I am sure people are advising you- but after dinner if you still have a little room you can make a peanut butter and jelly on one piece of wheat bread. That is about 200 calories and can serve as a dessert
I can't speak for all but to me it's not the annoyance of this type of topics but rather hard for me to empathize with people who have "hard time" to eat a fairly small amount of food. And often these people aren't really anorexic or incapable to eat more food...I get it that they try to do this in the correct way and have fear of eating more but it's just really really hard for someone like myself who struggles to stay within food limit every day to walk in those shoes...
It wasn't until I saw some information on here about how MFP determines the calorie requirements that it finally clicked that I needed to try to meet the minimum (1200) calories, give or take, in order to keep the metabolism going. So I am really shooting for trying to meet that instead of trying to go under it.
Being forced to eat healthier foods has definitely forced a cutback of calories. Now that I know I can't eat dairy, it's really forcing me to rethink foods. It definitely makes it hard to eat out. For example, there were only two items on Applebee's menu that I could have them make easily without dairy - and that's with all those pages of food.
Some of the limitations will lift, such as eggs, gluten, and fruits and vegetables that were off limits, but I will have to change my eating habits long-term. Which cheers me up about the 17 pounds or so that I've lost in the past 6 weeks, since it makes it more likely those won't come back.0 -
Your TDEE is 1494? Or your TDEE - 20% is 1494?
Also, why don't you give us a list of things you can't eat for dietary reasons, and then people can make suggestions for ways to add calories to fit within your requirements.
But personally, I am of the "eat what you want if it fits within your goals" camp and am not a fan of arbitrarily restricting foods that one deems not beneficial. so my suggestions are more likely to be along the lines of wine and cookies (since you said ice cream is out).
In general, I cannot eat: any dairy (not just lactose); peanuts; benzoates; melons of any sorts; peppers; or raw cucumbers, onions, and almonds.
This is the last week of challenges for the elimination diet, so currently, I am eating fruits, vegetables, meats and fish, and some grains/rice. I'll be able to add back in eggs, nuts, almond butter, gluten, and things like that next week.
Fattier meats, like ribs, dark-meat chicken, and steak, would give you more calories than leaner meats.
For sheer calorie content, fruit juices are quick and easy.
No almonds or peanuts, ok. Are other nuts an option? Like cashews or macadamia nuts? What about sunflower seeds?
Today, I was just looking to get to 1200 calories, not even trying to make up for exercise calories.
I did remember I have some raw pecans in the fridge and ate a few, so that bumped up the calorie consumption about 180 calories. I will see what we are having for dinner.0 -
Be ready for some super judgmental people on here! I posted something similar.. I got a lot of backlash..
I tend to have this problem too. A few tips people have told me that are helpful- add stuff to your regular meal. If you are having chicken and veggies tonight.. sauté the veggies in olive oil- that will add about 100 calories give or take a few.. and use a sauce on your chicken.. this can add anywhere from 50-200 calories to a regular meal without in fact eating "more food"
Don't stuff yourself to you are sick like I am sure people are advising you- but after dinner if you still have a little room you can make a peanut butter and jelly on one piece of wheat bread. That is about 200 calories and can serve as a dessert
I can't speak for all but to me it's not the annoyance of this type of topics but rather hard for me to empathize with people who have "hard time" to eat a fairly small amount of food. And often these people aren't really anorexic or incapable to eat more food...I get it that they try to do this in the correct way and have fear of eating more but it's just really really hard for someone like myself who struggles to stay within food limit every day to walk in those shoes...
I think it's very, very normal to be full on low cals on some days when you are overweight. The people trying hard to lose vanity pounds probably don't experience it much, especially if their BMI is already flirting with underweight.0 -
Your TDEE is 1494? Or your TDEE - 20% is 1494?
Also, why don't you give us a list of things you can't eat for dietary reasons, and then people can make suggestions for ways to add calories to fit within your requirements.
But personally, I am of the "eat what you want if it fits within your goals" camp and am not a fan of arbitrarily restricting foods that one deems not beneficial. so my suggestions are more likely to be along the lines of wine and cookies (since you said ice cream is out).
In general, I cannot eat: any dairy (not just lactose); peanuts; benzoates; melons of any sorts; peppers; or raw cucumbers, onions, and almonds.
This is the last week of challenges for the elimination diet, so currently, I am eating fruits, vegetables, meats and fish, and some grains/rice. I'll be able to add back in eggs, nuts, almond butter, gluten, and things like that next week.
Fattier meats, like ribs, dark-meat chicken, and steak, would give you more calories than leaner meats.
For sheer calorie content, fruit juices are quick and easy.
No almonds or peanuts, ok. Are other nuts an option? Like cashews or macadamia nuts? What about sunflower seeds?
Today, I was just looking to get to 1200 calories, not even trying to make up for exercise calories.
I did remember I have some raw pecans in the fridge and ate a few, so that bumped up the calorie consumption about 180 calories. I will see what we are having for dinner.
TDEE - 20%, or -15%, or -10% is just the mechanism to calculate your deficit. TDEE is the amount of calories you burn in a day, doing everything you do. Breathing, working, eating, sleeping, working out, etc. So if you eat at your TDEE, you should in theory, maintain your weight. Subtracting 20% is what is usually recommended if someone wants to lose about a pound a week. But since TDEE includes your estimates of your exercise burn, you don't log your workouts and eat back the calories. A lot of people still log their workouts, but enter them at 1 calorie, just to track what they are doing.
1200 cal/day is pretty low for a TDEE of over 2000. That would put you losing about 1.5 lbs/week. which is probably too aggressive for your goals, and also, you aren't even reaching that 1200 minimum number all the time.0
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