Eating too much fat?
eagleandthecrow
Posts: 7 Member
Hi friends!
I have been on and off of MyFitnessPal, and this time, I plan to stick with it! So, hello!
As I am filling out my diary for today, I am noticing that my intake of fat and protein is quite high (although I have not reached my limit for calories, yet.)
Is this something that will hinder the weight loss process? I find that this is typical of how I eat when I am trying to "eat healthy." Which perhaps is why weightloss never really clicked for me in the past? I don't really like to eat "low-fat" products, which is why I opt for full fat versions of yogurt and such...
For example, currently I am goaled at 1,520 calories and am about 100 calories under my goal. However, my fat goal is for 51 grams and I am at 89 grams. Furthermore my protein goal is 55 and I am at 76 grams. I am also under my sugar intake and my sodium intake.
Any help or recommendations would be much appreciated!
Thank you!
I have been on and off of MyFitnessPal, and this time, I plan to stick with it! So, hello!
As I am filling out my diary for today, I am noticing that my intake of fat and protein is quite high (although I have not reached my limit for calories, yet.)
Is this something that will hinder the weight loss process? I find that this is typical of how I eat when I am trying to "eat healthy." Which perhaps is why weightloss never really clicked for me in the past? I don't really like to eat "low-fat" products, which is why I opt for full fat versions of yogurt and such...
For example, currently I am goaled at 1,520 calories and am about 100 calories under my goal. However, my fat goal is for 51 grams and I am at 89 grams. Furthermore my protein goal is 55 and I am at 76 grams. I am also under my sugar intake and my sodium intake.
Any help or recommendations would be much appreciated!
Thank you!
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Dietary fat does not make you fat. It is in fact necessary for brain function and hormone regulation. Fat is more calorie dense per gram (9 cals vs. 4 cals in protein/carbs) so it gets a bad rap, but if you're still under your calorie goal, don't worry about it.0
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If you are under/at your calorie goal, the amount of fat you eat will not prevent weight loss. For example, I consume around 140-170g of fat a day (67%-81% of my total calories) and still consistently lose. It's not the fat. It's the calories.0
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MFP is not a substitute for real, medical advice. You should go see your doctor and have him oversee your weight loss journey. You may also get a referral to a nutritionist.
You have to decide if you want to eat all healthy foods or if you just want to lose weight. Is your focus - your primary goal - to be thin or to be healthy? For most, it's to be thin. Know this before you go to the doctor (or nutritionist.) Be honest with them. Don't say you want to eat all healthy food if you don't, in fact, plan to do that.
You need a plan that works for you!
Everyone does it differently, but you need to do what works for you.
The person who said your brain needs fat was wrong. The brain uses sugar. That's all it can use. Sugar is what fuels the brain. (That is not an excuse to eat fudge, though.0 -
The person who said your brain needs fat was wrong. The brain uses sugar. That's all it can use. Sugar is what fuels the brain.
This is so wrong it's almost funny.0 -
The person who said your brain needs fat was wrong. The brain uses sugar. That's all it can use. Sugar is what fuels the brain.
This is so wrong it's almost funny.
Go ahead and use the big words. I'll try to keep up.0 -
Drs. Phinney & Volek & Dr. Gary Taubes have done extensive research into the amount of fat people eat. Some people (notably insulin resistant and metabolic syndrome or pre-diabetic people) will do well on a 75 - 80% of calories from fat diet. The brain can in fact, live on fat, it is called ketogenesis - as opposed to ketoacidosis, which is a very dangerous condition that can occur in Type 1 diabetics. There is also a recent book called "Big Fat Surprise" by Nina Teicholz - a nine year investigative report on the political influence behind U.S. dietary policy and the lack of support behind it scientifically. It is true that the calories you ingest are most important, but some people do better on a lower carb ratio, some on other protocols, depends on your genetics and your history. For a quick summary, look at Mark's Daily Apple, he puts it in layman's terms that most can understand. Good luck.0
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I wouldn't worry about it too much. It would be interesting to see where all that fat is coming from since it's likely contributing a lot of excess calories to your daily goal and you could likely find alternatives that were lower in fat and calories. As long as you are meeting your calorie goal that's all that really matters for weight loss. I tend to be under my carb/fat limits but quite a bit over on my protein goal which works for me as I am lifting weights.0
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The person who said your brain needs fat was wrong. The brain uses sugar. That's all it can use. Sugar is what fuels the brain.
This is so wrong it's almost funny.
Go ahead and use the big words. I'll try to keep up.
I am more interested in your evidence that the brain only uses sugar.0 -
If you are under/at your calorie goal, the amount of fat you eat will not prevent weight loss. For example, I consume around 140-170g of fat a day (67%-81% of my total calories) and still consistently lose. It's not the fat. It's the calories.
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OP, you're perfectly fine. In fact, you will find many people on here who change their MFP settings to lower their carbohydrate setting and increase their protein and in some cases fat setting. In general, most will recommend that hitting your protein and fat numbers SHOULD be your first goal, and then you can fill the rest of your calories with carbohydrates if you like.
I tend to eat this way as well, protein and fat keeps me full so I don't worry one bit about how red those numbers go as long as my calorie goal doesn't get blasted out of the water. The ONLY time I consider changing that up is if I have a long run coming up and want more carbohydrates in the tank for my run.0 -
The person who said your brain needs fat was wrong. The brain uses sugar. That's all it can use. Sugar is what fuels the brain.
This is so wrong it's almost funny.
Go ahead and use the big words. I'll try to keep up.
I am more interested in your evidence that the brain only uses sugar.
You'll learn all you want to know about how the brain uses glucose and how when the body runs out - like if you were starving - it will send messages out to the rest of the body and things will start being converted. The liver and gluconeogensis are particularly fascinating. To me, anyway.
If you're looking for Internet stuff, you'll need to do it on your own. Google.0 -
The person who said your brain needs fat was wrong. The brain uses sugar. That's all it can use. Sugar is what fuels the brain.
This is so wrong it's almost funny.
Go ahead and use the big words. I'll try to keep up.
I am more interested in your evidence that the brain only uses sugar.
You'll learn all you want to know about how the brain uses glucose and how when the body runs out - like if you were starving - it will send messages out to the rest of the body and things will start being converted. The liver and gluconeogensis are particularly fascinating. To me, anyway.
If you're looking for Internet stuff, you'll need to do it on your own. Google.
Listen. I realize you mean glucose, but calling it "sugar" isn't exactly helpful. If you find one single scholarly source that says "sugar" my bad.0 -
The person who said your brain needs fat was wrong. The brain uses sugar. That's all it can use. Sugar is what fuels the brain.
This is so wrong it's almost funny.
Go ahead and use the big words. I'll try to keep up.
I am more interested in your evidence that the brain only uses sugar.
You'll learn all you want to know about how the brain uses glucose and how when the body runs out - like if you were starving - it will send messages out to the rest of the body and things will start being converted. The liver and gluconeogensis are particularly fascinating. To me, anyway.
If you're looking for Internet stuff, you'll need to do it on your own. Google.
Listen. I realize you mean glucose, but calling it "sugar" isn't exactly helpful. If you find one single scholarly source that says "sugar" my bad.
^This, believe it or not there are several people on this site who are *somewhat* familiar with physiology...0 -
There are also several LCHF (low carb, high fat) groups on MFP & Facebook. The one here (KETO DIET) links to some good and helpful explanations. Pax.0
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The person who said your brain needs fat was wrong. The brain uses sugar. That's all it can use. Sugar is what fuels the brain.
This is so wrong it's almost funny.
Go ahead and use the big words. I'll try to keep up.
I am more interested in your evidence that the brain only uses sugar.
You'll learn all you want to know about how the brain uses glucose and how when the body runs out - like if you were starving - it will send messages out to the rest of the body and things will start being converted. The liver and gluconeogensis are particularly fascinating. To me, anyway.
If you're looking for Internet stuff, you'll need to do it on your own. Google.
This article is relevant: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evolutionary-psychiatry/201104/your-brain-ketones
Basically, you're both right to a point. There are parts of the brain that can only use glucose, and using glucose can be thought of the "default" setting for brain cells. However, the cells can switch over to using ketones if needed (low carb/sugar but high fat diets). Of course, some amount of fat is always needed for humans to live, so it is also true that without fat, our brains would stop working.0 -
I have been maintaining my weight loss for years. According to MFP I eat way more fat then I should. I do not worry about it as long as I am healthy0
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MFP is not a substitute for real, medical advice. You should go see your doctor and have him oversee your weight loss journey. You may also get a referral to a nutritionist.
You have to decide if you want to eat all healthy foods or if you just want to lose weight. Is your focus - your primary goal - to be thin or to be healthy? For most, it's to be thin. Know this before you go to the doctor (or nutritionist.) Be honest with them. Don't say you want to eat all healthy food if you don't, in fact, plan to do that.
You need a plan that works for you!
Everyone does it differently, but you need to do what works for you.
The person who said your brain needs fat was wrong. The brain uses sugar. That's all it can use. Sugar is what fuels the brain. (That is not an excuse to eat fudge, though.
You need to do a little more research, whoever you are. Dietary fat does not make you fat otherwise we would all be in trouble if we eat things like coconut, avacado and such as it has LOTS of fat in it. Yes, the brain uses fat as does the making of hormones. You clearly don't know what you're talking about so do people a favor and shut up.
Also, telling a person to go to the doctor when he/she is not sick is beyond stupid. Doctors know next to nothing about anything and they get paid to keep you and I fat, sick and nearly dead.
(end rant...pisses me off when yayhoos get on here and state **** like they know ****!!)0 -
The person who said your brain needs fat was wrong. The brain uses sugar. That's all it can use. Sugar is what fuels the brain.
This is so wrong it's almost funny.
Go ahead and use the big words. I'll try to keep up.
No need to use big words. I'll break it down for you.
* The person who said your brain needs fat was wrong.
This is obviously false. It is like claiming muscles don't need protein, because they use glucose for energy. While your brain is not powered by fat, it doesn't negate the fact that it requires it.
* The brain uses sugar. That's all it can use. Sugar is what fuels the brain.
Sugar is not the same thing as glucose. Sugar has dietary implications (aka, you're implying that you need to eat some sugar to power the brain). This is false. The brain runs on glucose (and/or ketones). In the absence of a dietary source of glucose the body can manufacture glucose from other sources, as well as run many parts on ketones. There is absolutely no requirement for dietary sugar for powering your brain.
If you doubt this, please explain to me how much glucose is stored in the human body, how much is used each day by the brain, and how people who fast for extended periods of time don't drop dead when the glucose stores run out (which will happen in under a week).0 -
The person who said your brain needs fat was wrong. The brain uses sugar. That's all it can use. Sugar is what fuels the brain.
This is so wrong it's almost funny.
Go ahead and use the big words. I'll try to keep up.
I am more interested in your evidence that the brain only uses sugar.
You'll learn all you want to know about how the brain uses glucose and how when the body runs out - like if you were starving - it will send messages out to the rest of the body and things will start being converted. The liver and gluconeogensis are particularly fascinating. To me, anyway.
If you're looking for Internet stuff, you'll need to do it on your own. Google.
This article is relevant: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evolutionary-psychiatry/201104/your-brain-ketones
Basically, you're both right to a point. There are parts of the brain that can only use glucose, and using glucose can be thought of the "default" setting for brain cells. However, the cells can switch over to using ketones if needed (low carb/sugar but high fat diets). Of course, some amount of fat is always needed for humans to live, so it is also true that without fat, our brains would stop working.
My point is simply calling it "sugar" is, well, wrong. It's glucose, which is a type of sugar and there are MANY types of sugar that have nothing to do with brain function. If you want to causally dismiss others, don't do it with non-specific information.0 -
The person who said your brain needs fat was wrong. The brain uses sugar. That's all it can use. Sugar is what fuels the brain.
This is so wrong it's almost funny.
Go ahead and use the big words. I'll try to keep up.
No need to use big words. I'll break it down for you.
* The person who said your brain needs fat was wrong.
This is obviously false. It is like claiming muscles don't need protein, because they use glucose for energy. While your brain is not powered by fat, it doesn't negate the fact that it requires it.
* The brain uses sugar. That's all it can use. Sugar is what fuels the brain.
Sugar is not the same thing as glucose. Sugar has dietary implications (aka, you're implying that you need to eat some sugar to power the brain). This is false. The brain runs on glucose (and/or ketones). In the absence of a dietary source of glucose the body can manufacture glucose from other sources, as well as run many parts on ketones. There is absolutely no requirement for dietary sugar for powering your brain.
If you doubt this, please explain to me how much glucose is stored in the human body, how much is used each day by the brain, and how people who fast for extended periods of time don't drop dead when the glucose stores run out (which will happen in under a week).
You, I like you.0 -
The person who said your brain needs fat was wrong. The brain uses sugar. That's all it can use. Sugar is what fuels the brain.
This is so wrong it's almost funny.
Go ahead and use the big words. I'll try to keep up.
I am more interested in your evidence that the brain only uses sugar.
You'll learn all you want to know about how the brain uses glucose and how when the body runs out - like if you were starving - it will send messages out to the rest of the body and things will start being converted. The liver and gluconeogensis are particularly fascinating. To me, anyway.
If you're looking for Internet stuff, you'll need to do it on your own. Google.
Listen. I realize you mean glucose, but calling it "sugar" isn't exactly helpful. If you find one single scholarly source that says "sugar" my bad.
If you just want to fight on the Internet, I'll concede that you're always right and much smarter than me and we need never get into it again. I have no interest in that silliness.
If you genuinely have an interest in these things - and why everyone doesn't, I don't know because it's fascinating! - the library has textbooks available to read for free! You don't even have to pay for a class and $500 for the textbook set. I hear they're going for about $500 now, I don't know.0 -
when you eat at a deficit, you lose weight.
what %s of macros you eat, depends on two things (in this order)
1 - doctors orders for you (not something you read on the internet - advice based off of actual test results from a real takes your insurance doctor)
2 - what works for you (example, more protein makes you full)
eta - if you have a medical reason to worry about your macros, you will end up talking to a nutritionalist (at least if you have a halfway decent/intelligent doctor). you want to talk to someone who can both understand your condition/test results AND give you nutrition advice... a pcp is not this person, but is a good place to start for tests and referrals. you can usually get a nutritionalist covered by insurance, and those meetings can be done over the phone too!0 -
The person who said your brain needs fat was wrong. The brain uses sugar. That's all it can use. Sugar is what fuels the brain.
This is so wrong it's almost funny.
Go ahead and use the big words. I'll try to keep up.
I am more interested in your evidence that the brain only uses sugar.
You'll learn all you want to know about how the brain uses glucose and how when the body runs out - like if you were starving - it will send messages out to the rest of the body and things will start being converted. The liver and gluconeogensis are particularly fascinating. To me, anyway.
If you're looking for Internet stuff, you'll need to do it on your own. Google.
Listen. I realize you mean glucose, but calling it "sugar" isn't exactly helpful. If you find one single scholarly source that says "sugar" my bad.
If you just want to fight on the Internet, I'll concede that you're always right and much smarter than me and we need never get into it again. I have no interest in that silliness.
If you genuinely have an interest in these things - and why everyone doesn't, I don't know because it's fascinating! - the library has textbooks available to read for free! You don't even have to pay for a class and $500 for the textbook set. I hear they're going for about $500 now, I don't know.
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The person who said your brain needs fat was wrong. The brain uses sugar. That's all it can use. Sugar is what fuels the brain.
This is so wrong it's almost funny.
Go ahead and use the big words. I'll try to keep up.
I am more interested in your evidence that the brain only uses sugar.
You'll learn all you want to know about how the brain uses glucose and how when the body runs out - like if you were starving - it will send messages out to the rest of the body and things will start being converted. The liver and gluconeogensis are particularly fascinating. To me, anyway.
If you're looking for Internet stuff, you'll need to do it on your own. Google.
Listen. I realize you mean glucose, but calling it "sugar" isn't exactly helpful. If you find one single scholarly source that says "sugar" my bad.
If you just want to fight on the Internet, I'll concede that you're always right and much smarter than me and we need never get into it again. I have no interest in that silliness.
If you genuinely have an interest in these things - and why everyone doesn't, I don't know because it's fascinating! - the library has textbooks available to read for free! You don't even have to pay for a class and $500 for the textbook set. I hear they're going for about $500 now, I don't know.
Fight on the internet? No. I just hate to see people try to correct misinformation with really wobbly terminology that could easily confuse somebody without more education. If you are as well studied as you are trying to portray yourself, you know that glucose is a type of sugar that differs from other sugars in significant ways and those differences are critical when talking about the brain.0 -
The person who said your brain needs fat was wrong. The brain uses sugar. That's all it can use. Sugar is what fuels the brain.
This is so wrong it's almost funny.
Go ahead and use the big words. I'll try to keep up.
I am more interested in your evidence that the brain only uses sugar.
You'll learn all you want to know about how the brain uses glucose and how when the body runs out - like if you were starving - it will send messages out to the rest of the body and things will start being converted. The liver and gluconeogensis are particularly fascinating. To me, anyway.
If you're looking for Internet stuff, you'll need to do it on your own. Google.
Listen. I realize you mean glucose, but calling it "sugar" isn't exactly helpful. If you find one single scholarly source that says "sugar" my bad.
If you just want to fight on the Internet, I'll concede that you're always right and much smarter than me and we need never get into it again. I have no interest in that silliness.
If you genuinely have an interest in these things - and why everyone doesn't, I don't know because it's fascinating! - the library has textbooks available to read for free! You don't even have to pay for a class and $500 for the textbook set. I hear they're going for about $500 now, I don't know.
Glucose is ONE TYPE of sugar. There's also sucrose, lactose and a whole bunch of other OSE's that the brain DOES NOT use, so it's perfectly fair to point out that your statement lacked precision in a similar way to the statement of the brains' using fat, no the organ itself does not use fatty acids as a direct fuel source, but given that lipids are readily converted by the body into usable fuel, it is in fact *using* fat as a fuel.
Thanks, but I used to teach the class, I got all my textbooks for free that way.0 -
The person who said your brain needs fat was wrong. The brain uses sugar. That's all it can use. Sugar is what fuels the brain.
This is so wrong it's almost funny.
Go ahead and use the big words. I'll try to keep up.
I am more interested in your evidence that the brain only uses sugar.
You'll learn all you want to know about how the brain uses glucose and how when the body runs out - like if you were starving - it will send messages out to the rest of the body and things will start being converted. The liver and gluconeogensis are particularly fascinating. To me, anyway.
If you're looking for Internet stuff, you'll need to do it on your own. Google.
Listen. I realize you mean glucose, but calling it "sugar" isn't exactly helpful. If you find one single scholarly source that says "sugar" my bad.
If you just want to fight on the Internet, I'll concede that you're always right and much smarter than me and we need never get into it again. I have no interest in that silliness.
If you genuinely have an interest in these things - and why everyone doesn't, I don't know because it's fascinating! - the library has textbooks available to read for free! You don't even have to pay for a class and $500 for the textbook set. I hear they're going for about $500 now, I don't know.
Glucose is ONE TYPE of sugar. There's also sucrose, lactose and a whole bunch of other OSE's that the brain DOES NOT use, so it's perfectly fair to point out that your statement lacked precision in a similar way to the statement of the brains' using fat, no the organ itself does not use fatty acids as a direct fuel source, but given that lipids are readily converted by the body into usable fuel, it is in fact *using* fat as a fuel.
Thanks, but I used to teach the class, I got all my textbooks for free that way.
Meanie.
Everyone should know what s/he meant because textbooks.0 -
The person who said your brain needs fat was wrong. The brain uses sugar. That's all it can use. Sugar is what fuels the brain.
This is so wrong it's almost funny.
Go ahead and use the big words. I'll try to keep up.
No need to use big words. I'll break it down for you.
* The person who said your brain needs fat was wrong.
This is obviously false. It is like claiming muscles don't need protein, because they use glucose for energy. While your brain is not powered by fat, it doesn't negate the fact that it requires it.
* The brain uses sugar. That's all it can use. Sugar is what fuels the brain.
Sugar is not the same thing as glucose. Sugar has dietary implications (aka, you're implying that you need to eat some sugar to power the brain). This is false. The brain runs on glucose (and/or ketones). In the absence of a dietary source of glucose the body can manufacture glucose from other sources, as well as run many parts on ketones. There is absolutely no requirement for dietary sugar for powering your brain.
If you doubt this, please explain to me how much glucose is stored in the human body, how much is used each day by the brain, and how people who fast for extended periods of time don't drop dead when the glucose stores run out (which will happen in under a week).
We use a lot of broad terms around here, like calorie, protein, fat, etc.
I'm not going to fight about it, nor attempt to demonstrate my knowledge as some sort of proof of...anything. It's silly.
If you're ever in Florida and want to discuss physiology, I'd be happy to do that. It's fun for me. I love it. I mean that.0 -
The person who said your brain needs fat was wrong. The brain uses sugar. That's all it can use. Sugar is what fuels the brain.
This is so wrong it's almost funny.
Go ahead and use the big words. I'll try to keep up.
I am more interested in your evidence that the brain only uses sugar.
You'll learn all you want to know about how the brain uses glucose and how when the body runs out - like if you were starving - it will send messages out to the rest of the body and things will start being converted. The liver and gluconeogensis are particularly fascinating. To me, anyway.
If you're looking for Internet stuff, you'll need to do it on your own. Google.
Listen. I realize you mean glucose, but calling it "sugar" isn't exactly helpful. If you find one single scholarly source that says "sugar" my bad.
If you just want to fight on the Internet, I'll concede that you're always right and much smarter than me and we need never get into it again. I have no interest in that silliness.
If you genuinely have an interest in these things - and why everyone doesn't, I don't know because it's fascinating! - the library has textbooks available to read for free! You don't even have to pay for a class and $500 for the textbook set. I hear they're going for about $500 now, I don't know.
Well he is "technically" correct. I suppose it serves as a substitute to actually correct for some people.0 -
Down with glucose!!!!!
Just kidding. OP, as another person mentioned dietary fat is a necessary macronutrient. Stay under your calorie goal and you will lose weight. That being said, getting as much protein and fat as possible may help with satiety. Good luck OP!0 -
The person who said your brain needs fat was wrong. The brain uses sugar. That's all it can use. Sugar is what fuels the brain.
This is so wrong it's almost funny.
Go ahead and use the big words. I'll try to keep up.
I am more interested in your evidence that the brain only uses sugar.
You'll learn all you want to know about how the brain uses glucose and how when the body runs out - like if you were starving - it will send messages out to the rest of the body and things will start being converted. The liver and gluconeogensis are particularly fascinating. To me, anyway.
If you're looking for Internet stuff, you'll need to do it on your own. Google.
Listen. I realize you mean glucose, but calling it "sugar" isn't exactly helpful. If you find one single scholarly source that says "sugar" my bad.
If you just want to fight on the Internet, I'll concede that you're always right and much smarter than me and we need never get into it again. I have no interest in that silliness.
If you genuinely have an interest in these things - and why everyone doesn't, I don't know because it's fascinating! - the library has textbooks available to read for free! You don't even have to pay for a class and $500 for the textbook set. I hear they're going for about $500 now, I don't know.
Glucose is ONE TYPE of sugar. There's also sucrose, lactose and a whole bunch of other OSE's that the brain DOES NOT use, so it's perfectly fair to point out that your statement lacked precision in a similar way to the statement of the brains' using fat, no the organ itself does not use fatty acids as a direct fuel source, but given that lipids are readily converted by the body into usable fuel, it is in fact *using* fat as a fuel.
Thanks, but I used to teach the class, I got all my textbooks for free that way.
Did you major in A&P?
Do I know you?
They weren't pointing out a lack of precision. They said I was wrong. So wrong as to be funny.
May not have been as detailed as possible, but not wrong.0
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