Pre-workout Supplements

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  • MrTolerable
    MrTolerable Posts: 1,593 Member
    I've been using N.O. Xplode 2.0 for the last couple of weeks. I'd love to say it works, but even taking two scoops and a double espresso and I don't notice anything at all. The Fruit Punch does taste good though.

    ^I'm shocked.. I mean a double espresso on its own for me results in shaky hands and sweat...

    I guess everyone's body is a hair unique
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    I do caffeine, works good so far ... sometimes when doing fasted weight training I'll toss back some BCAA's.

    ^I use BCAA's right now and take 3-5grams 5x a day
    Creatine
    C4
    And then different proteins Whey/isolate etc.

    The preworkout tho made the most substantial difference in my actual workouts tho.

    BCAA's are bad@$$ if you are on a caloric deficit tho

    why 5x daily for bcaas?
  • MrTolerable
    MrTolerable Posts: 1,593 Member
    I've been taking Scivation's Xtend (BCAA's) during my workouts and between breakfast and lunch for almost 3 weeks...I'm not sure if I notice much of a difference though.

    while on a deficit?

    and it requires intensity - as in wut maizerage66 was referring to earlier - in our strength training there is no standing around waiting to do the next exercise - I not only kill myself and go all out each time - after doing something chest A - I will walk over and knock out something core A - then knock out something legs A - then go back to the initial chest A exercise 4X ... then I knock out something Core B, then knock out legs B then chest B 4x - etc.

    It is basically circuit training still within the push-pull technique - while performing a type of HIIT just with strength training.


    ^this is where BCAA's will make a huge difference - that and of course you have to be on a deficit.
  • MrTolerable
    MrTolerable Posts: 1,593 Member
    I do caffeine, works good so far ... sometimes when doing fasted weight training I'll toss back some BCAA's.

    ^I use BCAA's right now and take 3-5grams 5x a day
    Creatine
    C4
    And then different proteins Whey/isolate etc.

    The preworkout tho made the most substantial difference in my actual workouts tho.

    BCAA's are bad@$$ if you are on a caloric deficit tho

    why 5x daily for bcaas?

    Morning: there is 5.5 grams of BCAA in Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey Gold Standard usual protein shake
    10am: - take 4 grams - 4 pills.
    noon - there is 5.5 grams of BCAA in Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey Gold Standard usual protein shake
    preworkout - take 2.5 grams 5 pills
    afterworkout - 2.5 grams

    I used to take another 5.5 in my evening protein shake prior to bed, but I take Optimum Nutrition 100% Casein Protein now prior to bed because it keeps me feeling more full all night.
  • heis4u2004
    heis4u2004 Posts: 176 Member
    I use the Melaleuca Access bars 15 minutes before a workout on on empty stomach. It really helps me get through a tough workout without fatigue and soreness. It contains CLA and that helps your body use fat as fuel instead of muscle. And if it helps several Olympic athletes then I am sure it can help me. And since I buy it directly from the company, I get it fresh and at a preferred customer discount.
  • BigT555
    BigT555 Posts: 2,067 Member

    Morning: there is 5.5 grams of BCAA in Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey Gold Standard usual protein shake
    10am: - take 4 grams - 4 pills.
    noon - there is 5.5 grams of BCAA in Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey Gold Standard usual protein shake
    preworkout - take 2.5 grams 5 pills
    afterworkout - 2.5 grams

    I used to take another 5.5 in my evening protein shake prior to bed, but I take Optimum Nutrition 100% Casein Protein now prior to bed because it keeps me feeling more full all night.
    jesus, is all that frequency really needed for it to be effective?
  • MrTolerable
    MrTolerable Posts: 1,593 Member

    Morning: there is 5.5 grams of BCAA in Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey Gold Standard usual protein shake
    10am: - take 4 grams - 4 pills.
    noon - there is 5.5 grams of BCAA in Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey Gold Standard usual protein shake
    preworkout - take 2.5 grams 5 pills
    afterworkout - 2.5 grams

    I used to take another 5.5 in my evening protein shake prior to bed, but I take Optimum Nutrition 100% Casein Protein now prior to bed because it keeps me feeling more full all night.
    jesus, is all that frequency really needed for it to be effective?

    nope!! - ironically the best time I think in all my reading of WHEN it is best to take them is during workout and prior to bed (which is not when I'm taking them at all anymore :laugh: )

    as long as you're getting them in, obviously its best to get from lean protein sources, you should be solid!

    I'm a health nut and want as much of the effects as possible without breaking my bank account..and I read that having 20grams daily is what competing body builders take on the daily.

    ^I read on other forums of some guys that take 20grams DURING WORKOUT!
  • MrTolerable
    MrTolerable Posts: 1,593 Member
    I use the Melaleuca Access bars 15 minutes before a workout on on empty stomach. It really helps me get through a tough workout without fatigue and soreness. It contains CLA and that helps your body use fat as fuel instead of muscle. And if it helps several Olympic athletes then I am sure it can help me. And since I buy it directly from the company, I get it fresh and at a preferred customer discount.

    I know a lady that takes these and likes them - I think it is more for suppressing hunger then providing the effects of a pre-workout supplement tho.

    technically it is a pre-workout supplement tho so thanks for your insight :flowerforyou:
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    So i'll toss my hat in.

    My current regimen is two hard lifting days a week with my strength coach who is a competitive BB that loves destroying me, and then the rest of the week is 3.5-4 hours swimming workouts, and 3 runs of 5km+. All of this on a touch of a deficit, because I've got some to lose. I'm finding my recovery from the lifting days is slower than I'd like.

    Proteins: Cellucor S'mores and Cinnamon Swirl types, 2-3 scoops daily
    ON's Amino Energy - 2x daily
    MP Glutamine - 1x daily
    Power Shock - 1 or 2x whenever I remember it

    and for when I'm dragging *kitten* during a workout cytomax or R3plenish
  • MrTolerable
    MrTolerable Posts: 1,593 Member
    So i'll toss my hat in.

    My current regimen is two hard lifting days a week with my strength coach who is a competitive BB that loves destroying me, and then the rest of the week is 3.5-4 hours swimming workouts, and 3 runs of 5km+. All of this on a touch of a deficit, because I've got some to lose. I'm finding my recovery from the lifting days is slower than I'd like.

    Proteins: Cellucor S'mores and Cinnamon Swirl types, 2-3 scoops daily
    ON's Amino Energy - 2x daily
    MP Glutamine - 1x daily
    Power Shock - 1 or 2x whenever I remember it

    and for when I'm dragging *kitten* during a workout cytomax or R3plenish

    ON's Amino Energy - 2x daily - for energy or for focus?
    ^& I've heard good things

    MP Glutamine - I'm ganna try this so thanks for reaffirming that.
    Power Shock - 40 calories? - wut is this for exactly?


    I forgot I also take B6 & B12 supplements as well.

    And vitamin D because I burn in the summer like an egg white dropped in a pan.


    swimming is bad@$$ - I was doing it about 3 days a week... seriously the best cardio with the least tear to your body.
  • gothchiq
    gothchiq Posts: 4,590 Member
    Liquid B vitamins and caffeine tablet 15 minutes prior to starting workout. It may not sound like much, but it makes a huge difference to me in performance.
  • MrTolerable
    MrTolerable Posts: 1,593 Member
    Liquid B vitamins and caffeine tablet 15 minutes prior to starting workout. It may not sound like much, but it makes a huge difference to me in performance.

    yeah I used to do shots of B12 - and to me it was ridiculous... if I took a shot prior to bed I was in for insomnia madness.

    I agree B12 & B6's merits are not talked about enough.

    caffeine is great as well... green tea anyone?
  • Bellodesiderare
    Bellodesiderare Posts: 278 Member
    I've taken N.O. explode and find that I don't experience as much energy after using it for 3-4 weeks. I've used Arnold Pump, MP Assault, Nitro NCG, and Mesomorph.

    Mesomorph is AMAZING. I take it just prior to doing about an hour and a half heavy lifting/HIIT workout. It powers me through my workout without any problems. I'm on my second container of Mesomorph now and it is by far the best pre-workout I've taken.
  • MrTolerable
    MrTolerable Posts: 1,593 Member
    I mean what a mesomorph is..I am a mesomorph.. but I have no idea what supplement you are referring to.. I thought it was just a body type?

    have a link for where you get this?
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    So i'll toss my hat in.

    My current regimen is two hard lifting days a week with my strength coach who is a competitive BB that loves destroying me, and then the rest of the week is 3.5-4 hours swimming workouts, and 3 runs of 5km+. All of this on a touch of a deficit, because I've got some to lose. I'm finding my recovery from the lifting days is slower than I'd like.

    Proteins: Cellucor S'mores and Cinnamon Swirl types, 2-3 scoops daily
    ON's Amino Energy - 2x daily
    MP Glutamine - 1x daily
    Power Shock - 1 or 2x whenever I remember it

    and for when I'm dragging *kitten* during a workout cytomax or R3plenish

    ON's Amino Energy - 2x daily - for energy or for focus?
    ^& I've heard good things

    MP Glutamine - I'm ganna try this so thanks for reaffirming that.
    Power Shock - 40 calories? - wut is this for exactly?


    I forgot I also take B6 & B12 supplements as well.

    And vitamin D because I burn in the summer like an egg white dropped in a pan.


    swimming is bad@$$ - I was doing it about 3 days a week... seriously the best cardio with the least tear to your body.

    On's - energy, actually. I'm testing the waters with it, but the last two workouts I've used it during, I've completely nailed the hell out of them. Placebo effect or real effect? I don't know at the moment. I've not used it with the cytomax, so who knows how it would be with that.

    Power Shock - I have it now because it's something a friend gave to me to try out. Supposed to be a heavy dose of BCAAs, it's odd though because I get a very pronounced brain buzz from it, very much unlike caffeine. Makes me a little jittery if I use it for anything other than on days where I have a lifting session.

    Oh the pill stuff. On's multivitamin, On's ZMA, Glucosamine & Chondroitin, Vitamin C.

    I've been getting a ton of vit d, between running and working in the yard. You're not kidding about swimming btw, it ALWAYS leaves me spent.

    ETA - oh yeah, at least 5g of creatine daily too
  • micheleb15
    micheleb15 Posts: 1,418 Member
    I have no idea what most of the products are in this post other than BCAA's. I used to just eat a banana, but would still struggle with final sets on some lifts. Now I take Vega's pre-workout - it's like a silent endurance. I never feel any of effects of stimulants, but I also don't have any issues with sets and am able to throw in some extra accessory work.
  • AsaThorsWoman
    AsaThorsWoman Posts: 2,303 Member
    I take protein powder when I have too for recovery.

    I don't like it because it makes me gain weight, but can turn a miserable rest day into a nice non-painful rest day.

    OP what were you addicted too?
  • Timshel_
    Timshel_ Posts: 22,834 Member
    I'm a total supplement nut myself

    Yeah no.

    Water and maybe a banana an hour before.
    I eat for nutrition and energy.
    No need to supplement.
  • MrTolerable
    MrTolerable Posts: 1,593 Member
    I take protein powder when I have too for recovery.

    I don't like it because it makes me gain weight, but can turn a miserable rest day into a nice non-painful rest day.

    OP what were you addicted too?

    ^what type of protein powder are you referring to? They sell many many kinds that have nothing to do with aiding in weight gaining.

    http://www.amazon.com/Optimum-Nutrition-Standard-Double-Chocolate/dp/B000QSNYGI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1405540856&sr=8-1&keywords=optimum+nutrition+whey+protein

    http://www.amazon.com/Optimum-Nutrition-Protein-Chocolate-Supreme/dp/B002DYJ0M0/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1405540856&sr=8-14&keywords=optimum+nutrition+whey+protein

    -if you go to Costco I think it is even more inexpensive then Amazon. -so I've been told.

    OP what were you addicted too?

    ^humbling to look back on now - 4+years basically leannn and cleann :bigsmile:
  • MrTolerable
    MrTolerable Posts: 1,593 Member
    I'm a total supplement nut myself

    Yeah no.

    Water and maybe a banana an hour before.
    I eat for nutrition and energy.
    No need to supplement.

    banana is for post workout?

    The potassium is helpful for balancing out sodium lvl ratios from all the protein and supplements - but why else would one take it prior to workout/?
  • Leadfoot_Lewis
    Leadfoot_Lewis Posts: 1,623 Member
    Daily:

    Multi-Vitamin
    Calcium
    Fish Oil
    Creatine Monohydrate
    Beta Alanine
    HMB

    Pre Workout:

    Upper Body Workouts: Hemavol
    Lower Body Workouts: Compete

    Post Workout:

    BCAAs if it's after a cardio workout. I eat enough protein that I don't feel they're necessary for me unless I'm doing something like Cardio that has the potential to use Protein as fuel. Plus I always eat post workout anyway.
  • MrTolerable
    MrTolerable Posts: 1,593 Member
    Daily:

    Multi-Vitamin
    Calcium
    Fish Oil
    Creatine Monohydrate
    Beta Alanine
    HMB

    Pre Workout:

    Upper Body Workouts: Hemavol
    Lower Body Workouts: Compete

    Post Workout:

    BCAAs if it's after a cardio workout. I eat enough protein that I don't feel they're necessary for me, plus I always eat post workout anyway.

    HMB?
  • Timshel_
    Timshel_ Posts: 22,834 Member
    The potassium is helpful for balancing out sodium lvl ratios from all the protein and supplements - but why else would one take it prior to workout/?

    Simple energy, nutrients.
  • Leadfoot_Lewis
    Leadfoot_Lewis Posts: 1,623 Member
    HMB?

    Do you not know what it is or are you questioning why I take it?
  • MrTolerable
    MrTolerable Posts: 1,593 Member
    The potassium is helpful for balancing out sodium lvl ratios from all the protein and supplements - but why else would one take it prior to workout/?

    Simple energy, nutrients.

    oh!! like just a pre-workout snack for energy...

    makes sense actually.. I munch an apple usually while walking to the gym. :laugh:

    .. thought I was missing out on some big secret gem here.
  • MrTolerable
    MrTolerable Posts: 1,593 Member
    HMB?

    Do you not know what it is or are you questioning why I take it?

    no, I have no idea what it is - I never heard of it and don't take it.
  • AsaThorsWoman
    AsaThorsWoman Posts: 2,303 Member
    I take protein powder when I have too for recovery.

    I don't like it because it makes me gain weight, but can turn a miserable rest day into a nice non-painful rest day.

    OP what were you addicted too?

    ^what type of protein powder are you referring to? They sell many many kinds that have nothing to do with aiding in weight gaining.

    http://www.amazon.com/Optimum-Nutrition-Standard-Double-Chocolate/dp/B000QSNYGI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1405540856&sr=8-1&keywords=optimum+nutrition+whey+protein

    http://www.amazon.com/Optimum-Nutrition-Protein-Chocolate-Supreme/dp/B002DYJ0M0/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1405540856&sr=8-14&keywords=optimum+nutrition+whey+protein

    -if you go to Costco I think it is even more inexpensive then Amazon. -so I've been told.

    OP what were you addicted too? blow ..used lots and lots of hallucinogenics for recreational play as well.

    ^humbling to look back on now - 4+years basically leannn and cleann :bigsmile:

    I used two kinds I bought at Sam's Club (it's like Costco):

    Muscle Tech 100% Premium Whey Protein Plus in Chocolate (Deluxe Chocolate?)

    and

    Muscle Milk - 100 Calories Light Chocolate Powder

    I'd like to try something that meets my needs more, I am still in the weight loss fun of my fitness, although I do some lifting also to aid in that.

    I wouldn't be opposed to trying one that is tailored more to my goals, but they are so pricey and some taste like chalk and lumps.

    I tried a raw vegan protein once that made me sick.

    I've tried a few from the health food store Sprouts.

    I don't even know, I'm shooting in the dark!

    I was thinking about trying Body by Vi.

    Some chic I met in person who seemed really healthy and happy used it.
  • Leadfoot_Lewis
    Leadfoot_Lewis Posts: 1,623 Member
    no, I have no idea what it is - I never heard of it and don't take it.

    It's Beta Hydroxy Methylbutyrate, which is a metabolite of Leucine (the most important of the 3 BCAAs). It preserves muscles and promotes Protein Synthesis. I took it while I was on a cut and liked it so much I've continued taking it. I was able to lose about 10% of my bodyweight, actually increased my strength, and lost very little muscle while on my cut. It gets crap reviews if you Google it but that wasn't the case @ all for me. :smile:
  • MrTolerable
    MrTolerable Posts: 1,593 Member
    I take protein powder when I have too for recovery.

    I don't like it because it makes me gain weight, but can turn a miserable rest day into a nice non-painful rest day.

    OP what were you addicted too?

    ^what type of protein powder are you referring to? They sell many many kinds that have nothing to do with aiding in weight gaining.

    http://www.amazon.com/Optimum-Nutrition-Standard-Double-Chocolate/dp/B000QSNYGI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1405540856&sr=8-1&keywords=optimum+nutrition+whey+protein

    http://www.amazon.com/Optimum-Nutrition-Protein-Chocolate-Supreme/dp/B002DYJ0M0/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1405540856&sr=8-14&keywords=optimum+nutrition+whey+protein

    -if you go to Costco I think it is even more inexpensive then Amazon. -so I've been told.

    OP what were you addicted too? blow ..used lots and lots of hallucinogenics for recreational play as well.

    ^humbling to look back on now - 4+years basically leannn and cleann :bigsmile:

    I used two kinds I bought at Sam's Club (it's like Costco):

    Muscle Tech 100% Premium Whey Protein Plus in Chocolate (Deluxe Chocolate?)

    and

    Muscle Milk - 100 Calories Light Chocolate Powder

    I'd like to try something that meets my needs more, I am still in the weight loss fun of my fitness, although I do some lifting also to aid in that.

    'whey' to go! :wink:



    I'd figure out what macros your trying to hit and just work the protein shakes in with 'em - there should be no reason either of these would increase your weight... in fact the drudge report just had a link up last week of scientist advising high-protein based diets resulted in ppl feeling more full and shedding more lbs.

    I wouldn't sweat the Muscle Tech 100% Premium Whey Protein Plus in Chocolate - not an ideal type but not to bad either.

    Muscle milk is eh... my friend has a fridge just jam-packed with it so I have it occasionally at his place if I'm chilling in the hot tub.. but.. it's not my ideal 'cup of protein'. :wink:
  • MrTolerable
    MrTolerable Posts: 1,593 Member
    no, I have no idea what it is - I never heard of it and don't take it.

    It's Beta Hydroxy Methylbutyrate, which is a metabolite of Leucine (the most important of the 3 BCAAs). It preserves muscles and promotes Protein Synthesis. I took it while I was on a cut and liked it so much I've continued taking it. I was able to lose about 10% of my bodyweight, actually increased my strength, and lost very little muscle while on my cut. It gets crap reviews if you Google it but that wasn't the case @ all for me. :smile:

    k I will have to dig in further to investigate it. ... a metabolite of a specific BCAA.. interesting concept...I can clearly think through the potential benefits of taking it..
    (to the reader a metabolite is the end result of your body metabolizing something) for example if you take a drug test - they are testing the results of your body having metabolizing the substance rather then the substance itself.

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