is fruit bad?
TLJackson
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Hi everyone! Been on this journey awhile but keep falling off the wagon. This time I have a bestie tattoo and a trip to Cancun to look forward to as a reward so I'm a bit more motivated! Lol. My best friend and I are doing this together and disagree on several points. She wants to go the no-carb route while I prefer the clean eating, low calorie approach which I feel is more if a lifestyle than a diet (how I see low carb). So I bought lots of fruits and veggies. She says fruits are bad... Too much sugar. What do y'all think? I think fruits are great as a snack or a treat or in a smoothie with spinach and Greek yogurt. I'm not trying to diet, I'm trying to change my whole perspective on food and eating!
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Nothing wrong with fruit. There's a bazillion articles out there as to the science why eating an apple isn't as 'omg sugar' as eating a bag of sweets but I can't remember it all now. You need sugar. You also need carbs. She'll probably feel crap and quit before you do
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I look at it like this--If I'm going to stay away from processed sweets, I'm going to have fruit to replace it! END OF STORY:laugh:
I'm sure if fruit were the only thing you eat, then you'd have some issues, but incorporating it into your daily balanced diet- it is wonderful!
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you are basically both wrong.She wants to go the no-carb route while I prefer the clean eating, low calorie approach which I feel is more if a lifestyle than a diet (how I see low carb).
Eliminating food groups, specific types of foods is not required...
Clean eating...too fuzzy of a definition..and define "low calorie"...
Eating all foods in moderation in a reasonable calorie deficit is what is required to lose weight.
Oh and since you are a diabetic you actually have a reason to watch your sugars...might want to consider that when you are ingesting the natural ones as well.0 -
Fruit most def. isn't bad - I eat a banana & white grapes everyday with my lunch and have managed to lose 49lbs over the course of my weight loss, roughly 9.5 months.
That being said, your sugar goal will show over if you eat just the bare minimum amount of fruit (as I have noticed in my journal) because of the natural sugars in the fruit.
But honestly it's a nice treat to have instead of loading up on candy, cakes, brownies, ice cream, etc.0 -
If fruit was bad it wouldn't be recommended in the food guide...0
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Only blackberries. I hate those damned seeds.0
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If fruit was bad it wouldn't be recommended in the food guide...
What food guide?
I should probably take a look at this thing.0 -
No, fruit is not bad. As long as everything you eat fits within your calorie allowance you will lose weight.
Yes, fruit has sugar. The good thing about the sugar in fruit is that it's contained within fiber, so your body has to digest the fiber first, before it gets to the sugar. The prevents the high and crash that you get from processed, sugary foods that do not have the fiber content.0 -
I'm a low carb guy. Fruit causes insulin response which causes fat storage and hunger. Granted fruit is better than a cookie but it can still slow down weight loss.0
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Fruit is not bad, and even a lot of the low carb'ers can't agree on this. Because there is so much healthy fibre in fruit some of the low carb folks say its ok because they say it should go through your system faster. I do try and limit my fruit intake to max 2-3 servings a day but thats more just to force me to eat veggies cuz I don't like them as much haha. Fruit is higher in calories (and carbs) though so you will be able to have less fruit than veggies.
I've done clean eating and low carb and low carb sent me into a binging spiral that lasted 6 months. I'm back on the clean eating and couldn't be happier. I agree with you, its definitely more of a liveable lifestyle.0 -
Guess I should have been a bit clearer. I didn't really mean BAD. I know fruit isn't bad and unless a food is so highly processed as to be nearly unrecognizable as food, I don't usually call food bad. I was really thinking more of does it hinder in weight loss or are the sugars in fruit considered bad when trying to lose weight. Of course as a diabetic I realize I need to watch my consumption, but I've lowered my A1C 5 points in less than a year so not really concerned about that.
My current calorie goal is 1500 but I'm wondering if that's too low. I'm 5'2 and my current weight is 218. I want to lose weight but in a healthy and sustainable way!0 -
You mean something like protein powder?I know fruit isn't bad and unless a food is so highly processed as to be nearly unrecognizable as food, I don't usually call food bad.
I'm 6' 9" and 288 and my goal is 1700. 1500 doesn't seem low to me, but that doesn't mean it doesn't to you. Other than medical issues, sugar isn't going to slow down weight loss any more than any other calories.0 -
Guess I should have been a bit clearer. I didn't really mean BAD. I know fruit isn't bad and unless a food is so highly processed as to be nearly unrecognizable as food, I don't usually call food bad. I was really thinking more of does it hinder in weight loss or are the sugars in fruit considered bad when trying to lose weight. Of course as a diabetic I realize I need to watch my consumption, but I've lowered my A1C 5 points in less than a year so not really concerned about that.
My current calorie goal is 1500 but I'm wondering if that's too low. I'm 5'2 and my current weight is 218. I want to lose weight but in a healthy and sustainable way!
That depends on a whole lot of things...at 5 ft 7 I lost on 1750 and I was aiming for about 50lbs...it worked well for me as I lost on average 3/4lb a week.
You could probably eat a bit more and if you exercise make sure you eat some of them back...but if it's working for you I say stick with it.
@DeguelloTex yours is probably way too low...esp since you have about 60lbs left to lose.0 -
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No, fruit is not bad.
What is bad is labeling food "good or bad"
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Why so? (Other than a paste of the "If you have X pounds to lose then Y per week" thing.)@DeguelloTex yours is probably way too low...esp since you have about 60lbs left to lose.0 -
My current calorie goal is 1500 but I'm wondering if that's too low. I'm 5'2 and my current weight is 218. I want to lose weight but in a healthy and sustainable way!
Fruit doesn't hinder weight loss unless you eat so much that you go over your calories or possibly if one find that eating low carb suppresses the appetite and fruit like other carbs messes with that. I'm not sure if the latter is a realistic possibility, however, since I have never bothered with low carb. For me fruit is quite satiating (and tasty), so I'm reasonably sure that it's helped me lose rather than the opposite.
I started at 5'3 and 220, and was eating 1250. I also ate back exercise calories, though. I am much more active now (at 160) and eat 1400 + some exercise calories (I consider walking as part of daily activity and I only eat back exercise calories after I meet my daily activity goals, but I make sure I do).
I'm not recommending that people start as low as I did--it just happened to work for me at the time--but I don't think 1500 is likely to be too low unless you are exercising significantly and not eating it back. On the other hand, you might be able to lose on more, so if you want to experiment that wouldn't hurt. People often suggest that if you start low you are stuck there, and that's not been my experience, since if you start with lots to lose you quite often get more active, which counteracts the fact that you will need fewer calories to lose at lower weights, all else equal. All else is not equal.0 -
If you are on this journey for the long haul, then nothing is off limits! Yes, you need to watch your portions and keep within your personal food goals, but if you eliminate what you really like you end up sabotaging yourself! As a much older lady I didn't find this out until I was over 70! Many of my earlier food regimes included leaving out foods I love - and they never lasted long or stuck! I have lost 40 pounds since Oct 2012 but the best part is I haven't put any back on! First time in my entire life that I have kept the weight off even for a whole year! Yes, I still need to lose more and I fully intend to - and with this program and accountability I know I will!
I know with a family to take care of it is hard to find the time to read - but when you can, read some of the success stories and the older beginning posts that tell about your calorie range and so on. The more you know and use the more successful you'll be!
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Why so? (Other than a paste of the "If you have X pounds to lose then Y per week" thing.)@DeguelloTex yours is probably way too low...esp since you have about 60lbs left to lose.
Tex: any comments made are more directed at people who might look at your example and try to emulate it. For most men, 1700 would not be enough for them.0 -
Why so? (Other than a paste of the "If you have X pounds to lose then Y per week" thing.)@DeguelloTex yours is probably way too low...esp since you have about 60lbs left to lose.
Tex: any comments made are more directed at people who might look at your example and try to emulate it. For most men, 1700 would not be enough for them.
That and the fact I at 5 ft 7 and a woman lose 3/4 of a pound a week eating 1700 calories...
I believe it is the AMA that suggests the min for a man is 1800...0 -
She's saying they are bad because she's doing the low card. Fruit has tons of carbs, but they are "good" carbs... if there is such a thing as bad and good carbs. Fruits are nature's treats!0
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I can't comment on this, not because I don't have an opinion, but because I think the better person to ask is your doctor. Your doctor can recommend certain diets. Definitely fruits are better than other sugary snacks. And I know it's better to eat the actual fruit instead of drinking the juice(even no sugar added juices).
It is always recommended to talk to your doctor before starting any diet or exercies regimen especially if you have questions.
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Fruit does have lots of sugar, relative to other things like veggies or meats. However...it also has tons of vitamins and micronutrients, fiber, and FLAVOR. Fruit is good for you, in moderation. Eat fruit!0
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That's reasonable, but I did also mention that my evaluation of "enough" calories for others isn't exactly binding on them. Still, more clarification is rarely a bad thing. I'm just saying it's working well for me; it may not work for anyone else.
Why so? (Other than a paste of the "If you have X pounds to lose then Y per week" thing.)@DeguelloTex yours is probably way too low...esp since you have about 60lbs left to lose.
Tex: any comments made are more directed at people who might look at your example and try to emulate it. For most men, 1700 would not be enough for them.0 -
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Well, using my weight, body fat estimates, and the amount of fat that can be metabolized in a day, my fat can provide almost 2900 calories a day even if I don't eat a bite. I've got the 1800, if that's really a thing, covered just by being so fat.That and the fact I at 5 ft 7 and a woman lose 3/4 of a pound a week eating 1700 calories...
I believe it is the AMA that suggests the min for a man is 1800...
I'm trying to lose more than 3/4 of a pound a week, though. If that were my goal, I'd obviously need to eat a lot more.0
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