Job Hopping
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The issue I am running into is that the company I work with is very small, and our employees are not treated well at all.
I'm sorry to hear that OP. Obviously people only leave jobs when they are unhappy. HR hirers and "recruiters" are well aware of this but they make you play the game, test your story and call the shots as you can see from some of the replies posted here. It's an ugly system and there's a reason why wage earners are frequently referred to as wage slaves, thanks to the people who pull the strings and decide who's employable and who isn't. And the criteria for this, since the job market has downturned, is becoming more and more ridiculous and exclusive. In my area, *secretaries* are now required to hold 4 year college degrees or they don't get the job.
Staying in a job where you're treated badly and feel unhappy for 4 to 5 years to make yourself appealing to some recruiter or HR maven who has the power to place you in a company where the standards of conduct are probably 'anything goes' is a gamble not worth taking based on my personal experience. I'm 47 and wish I could take back the 12 years of my life working for corporate firms as a miserable wage slave. It would have been worth giving up my car, my weekends off schedule and the security of my paycheck at the time. I am not college educated but eventually went to trade school for a year in my forties to train in a practical and in demand field which released me from the limitations the job market had always placed on me.
In my twenties and thirties, I would have been happier working for half the money in a field I could stand and putting in longer hours than to have put up with the b*llsh*t of 9 to 5 life in a profit driven paper factory or in the many restaurant jobs I worked as a menial.
If you can, try to continue the stay at home mom role and make whatever sacrifices are necessary. Or with your husband's support, start your own pet sitting or pet walking business? Or at the very least, investigate union opportunities in your area and try to get a union protected job if you can. Working in private industry without collectively bargained contractual protection is pretty often a really awful deal. For the employee. Do whatever you can to protect yourself, support yourself and guard your dignity. Because in this work culture, God knows, almost no one else will.
Administrative assistants should have a college degree. Why is that a bad thing? Heck most companies require some sort of a degree if they are going to consider hiring you. And if you want to advance in the company or your position you should have an education.
And FYI: She's NOT a SAHM. She has a job. She isn't really happy with it (and we don't know what they do/don't do that makes them "not treat their employees very well"). And FWIW: I have NEVER had a union job nor would I want one and was perfectly fine in my position without it.
It really sounds like you had an awful experience with your chosen jobs and are projecting that out to the OP.0 -
FWIW, while we're on hot topic of SAHM status, they will probably ask you about the previous gap in employment.
I wouldn't recommend telling them you left your job to be a SAHM.
I would tell them you had family issues that are now permanently resolved and leave the family out of the interview.
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LIFE IS SHORT! Spread your wings!!!!
If you see another opportunity, take it, then do your 'time' there. Don't stay in an industry, job, you don't love.
Source: life
HR recruiters will change their stride in time0 -
The issue I am running into is that the company I work with is very small, and our employees are not treated well at all.
I'm sorry to hear that OP. Obviously people only leave jobs when they are unhappy. HR hirers and "recruiters" are well aware of this but they make you play the game, test your story and call the shots as you can see from some of the replies posted here. It's an ugly system and there's a reason why wage earners are frequently referred to as wage slaves, thanks to the people who pull the strings and decide who's employable and who isn't. And the criteria for this, since the job market has downturned, is becoming more and more ridiculous and exclusive. In my area now, *secretaries* are now required to hold 4 year college degrees or they don't get the job.
Staying in a job where you're treated badly and feel unhappy for 4 to 5 years to make yourself appealing to some recruiter or HR maven who has the power to place you in a company where the standards of conduct are probably 'anything goes' is a gamble not worth taking based on my personal experience. I'm 47 and wish I could take back the 12 years of my life working for corporate firms as a miserable wage slave. It would have been worth giving up my car, my weekends off schedule and the security of my paycheck at the time. I am not college educated but eventually went to trade school for a year in my forties to train in a practical and in demand field which released me from the limitations the job market had always placed on me.
In my twenties and thirties, I would have been happier working for half the money in a field I could stand and putting in longer hours than to have put up with the b*llsh*t of 9 to 5 life in a profit driven paper factory or in the many restaurant jobs I worked as a menial.
If you can, try to continue the stay at home mom role and make whatever sacrifices are necessary. Or with your husband's support, start your own pet sitting or pet walking business? Or at the very least, investigate union opportunities in your area and try to get a union protected job if you can. Working in private industry without collectively bargained contractual protection is pretty often a really awful deal. For the employee. Do whatever you can to protect yourself, support yourself and guard your dignity. Because in this work culture, God knows, almost no one else will.
When did she mention ever wanting to be a stay at home mom? What if OP is fulfilled by having a career? She doesn't like her current company, that doesn't mean she needs to quit working and "make sacrifices".
OP said she used to be a stay at home mom and left that gig to go to work outside the home. Probably out of economic necessity. She mentioned that she worked for McDonald's which she didn't like and is now working for a small company where the employees are treated badly. On the other hand, maybe she doesn't "need" to quit working outside the home and "make sacrifices". But if that's what she ends up doing and feels better about it, so what?
But maybe you can run it by aging provocateur Gloria Steinem or channel the ghost of Betty Friedan, just to be on the safe side.
These two gals, by the way, didn't decide to work for a living due to economic necessity. Their educations were bought and paid for and their parental heritage was comfortable at least. They also had gainfully employed and educated *husbands*.
Unlike most working women of today who bust their nuts to support their families on a pittance, these two feminists and *most* recognizable neo-feminist academics, authors and speakers always had cushy safety nets to fall back on and many options to choose from. Yet they successfully brainwashed generations of working class women since the 1960s with whom they had nothing in common. Time to wake up.
While economic necessity did play a part in my returning to the work force; it was not the main reason. I was not happy or fulfilled as a sahm, and my relationship with my child is better now that I am in the work force. She has a chance to miss me, she has time to explore the world and learn as individual and meet new friends, and I have financial freedom and the peace of mind that I am also doing this for myself. That being said, I promised myself that I would work for happiness rather than money. I am not looking to return as a sahm or jump ship on a position either.0 -
The issue I am running into is that the company I work with is very small, and our employees are not treated well at all.
I'm sorry to hear that OP. Obviously people only leave jobs when they are unhappy. HR hirers and "recruiters" are well aware of this but they make you play the game, test your story and call the shots as you can see from some of the replies posted here. It's an ugly system and there's a reason why wage earners are frequently referred to as wage slaves, thanks to the people who pull the strings and decide who's employable and who isn't. And the criteria for this, since the job market has downturned, is becoming more and more ridiculous and exclusive. In my area now, *secretaries* are now required to hold 4 year college degrees or they don't get the job.
Staying in a job where you're treated badly and feel unhappy for 4 to 5 years to make yourself appealing to some recruiter or HR maven who has the power to place you in a company where the standards of conduct are probably 'anything goes' is a gamble not worth taking based on my personal experience. I'm 47 and wish I could take back the 12 years of my life working for corporate firms as a miserable wage slave. It would have been worth giving up my car, my weekends off schedule and the security of my paycheck at the time. I am not college educated but eventually went to trade school for a year in my forties to train in a practical and in demand field which released me from the limitations the job market had always placed on me.
In my twenties and thirties, I would have been happier working for half the money in a field I could stand and putting in longer hours than to have put up with the b*llsh*t of 9 to 5 life in a profit driven paper factory or in the many restaurant jobs I worked as a menial.
If you can, try to continue the stay at home mom role and make whatever sacrifices are necessary. Or with your husband's support, start your own pet sitting or pet walking business? Or at the very least, investigate union opportunities in your area and try to get a union protected job if you can. Working in private industry without collectively bargained contractual protection is pretty often a really awful deal. For the employee. Do whatever you can to protect yourself, support yourself and guard your dignity. Because in this work culture, God knows, almost no one else will.
When did she mention ever wanting to be a stay at home mom? What if OP is fulfilled by having a career? She doesn't like her current company, that doesn't mean she needs to quit working and "make sacrifices".
OP said she used to be a stay at home mom and left that gig to go to work outside the home. Probably out of economic necessity. She mentioned that she worked for McDonald's which she didn't like and is now working for a small company where the employees are treated badly. On the other hand, maybe she doesn't "need" to quit working outside the home and "make sacrifices". But if that's what she ends up doing and feels better about it, so what?
But maybe you can run it by aging provocateur Gloria Steinem or channel the ghost of Betty Friedan, just to be on the safe side.
These two gals, by the way, didn't decide to work for a living due to economic necessity. Their educations were bought and paid for and their parental heritage was comfortable at least. They also had gainfully employed and educated *husbands*.
Unlike most working women of today who bust their nuts to support their families on a pittance, these two feminists and *most* recognizable neo-feminist academics, authors and speakers always had cushy safety nets to fall back on and many options to choose from. Yet they successfully brainwashed generations of working class women since the 1960s with whom they had nothing in common. Time to wake up.
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The issue I am running into is that the company I work with is very small, and our employees are not treated well at all.
I'm sorry to hear that OP. Obviously people only leave jobs when they are unhappy. HR hirers and "recruiters" are well aware of this but they make you play the game, test your story and call the shots as you can see from some of the replies posted here. It's an ugly system and there's a reason why wage earners are frequently referred to as wage slaves, thanks to the people who pull the strings and decide who's employable and who isn't. And the criteria for this, since the job market has downturned, is becoming more and more ridiculous and exclusive. In my area now, *secretaries* are now required to hold 4 year college degrees or they don't get the job.
Staying in a job where you're treated badly and feel unhappy for 4 to 5 years to make yourself appealing to some recruiter or HR maven who has the power to place you in a company where the standards of conduct are probably 'anything goes' is a gamble not worth taking based on my personal experience. I'm 47 and wish I could take back the 12 years of my life working for corporate firms as a miserable wage slave. It would have been worth giving up my car, my weekends off schedule and the security of my paycheck at the time. I am not college educated but eventually went to trade school for a year in my forties to train in a practical and in demand field which released me from the limitations the job market had always placed on me.
In my twenties and thirties, I would have been happier working for half the money in a field I could stand and putting in longer hours than to have put up with the b*llsh*t of 9 to 5 life in a profit driven paper factory or in the many restaurant jobs I worked as a menial.
If you can, try to continue the stay at home mom role and make whatever sacrifices are necessary. Or with your husband's support, start your own pet sitting or pet walking business? Or at the very least, investigate union opportunities in your area and try to get a union protected job if you can. Working in private industry without collectively bargained contractual protection is pretty often a really awful deal. For the employee. Do whatever you can to protect yourself, support yourself and guard your dignity. Because in this work culture, God knows, almost no one else will.
When did she mention ever wanting to be a stay at home mom? What if OP is fulfilled by having a career? She doesn't like her current company, that doesn't mean she needs to quit working and "make sacrifices".
OP said she used to be a stay at home mom and left that gig to go to work outside the home. Probably out of economic necessity. She mentioned that she worked for McDonald's which she didn't like and is now working for a small company where the employees are treated badly. On the other hand, maybe she doesn't "need" to quit working outside the home and "make sacrifices". But if that's what she ends up doing and feels better about it, so what?
But maybe you can run it by aging provocateur Gloria Steinem or channel the ghost of Betty Friedan, just to be on the safe side.
These two gals, by the way, didn't decide to work for a living due to economic necessity. Their educations were bought and paid for and their parental heritage was comfortable at least. They also had gainfully employed and educated *husbands*.
Unlike most working women of today who bust their nuts to support their families on a pittance, these two feminists and *most* recognizable neo-feminist academics, authors and speakers always had cushy safety nets to fall back on and many options to choose from. Yet they successfully brainwashed generations of working class women since the 1960s with whom they had nothing in common. Time to wake up.
Why should it matter if it is out of economic necessity? Why is a woman working to help provide for her children a result of "neo-feminism"?
I also fail to see your point about Gloria Steinem and Betty Friedan. You mentioned they did not choose to work out of economic necessity -- isn't that proving the point that some women are genuinely fulfilled by having careers, even if it's not financially necessary? For the record, if OP wanted to be a stay at home mom then I agree that's what she should do. However, she is asking about how to advance her career, because she wants to work. You are projecting your ideals onto her instead of providing relevant or useful advice.0 -
In the world of IT the only way I am able to give myself a raise is to play one employer against another. Two years seems the usual number.
"Well, I'd stay here at hospital X but hospital Y has offered me more money. Are you willing to pony up or am I leaving?"
The companies I have worked for are ran by bean counters who are not allowed to think past the next quarter thanks to short sighted board members and senior leadership.
Welcome to wage slavery.
Good luck.0 -
I was with my last job exactly 6 months. I was applying for jobs after the 3 month mark. Every interviewer asked why I was leaving my last position. I always said, "With the current economic client (sequestration, at the time) and rolling layoffs, I'm looking for more of a permanent position. I value stability and opportunities for long-term growth."
Other reasons you can give that will assuage your interviewer's concern that you're flighty:
-There is no opportunity to advance at my current job
-I am looking for a more challenging job that allows me to use my ____________ (i.e.: my creativity, my double degree, etc)
-I am refocusing my career goals to match my skills and abilities. The industry I am currently in does not allow me to blah blah
I have NEVER had a potential employer, recruiter, or HR associate bat an eyelash at my 6 month stint. I made sure I had coworkers who were willing to vouch for my skills and professionalism, which was a plus.
Regardless of how you think your employment duration will look, why not apply anyway? The possibilities are 1. You are turned down because they're worries you're flighty. Conclusion: You stay at the same job you already have and life goes on. You continue applying for jobs until the duration of perceived flightiness has passed. or 2. You get the job. Conclusion: No one cared. Applying for jobs now does not burn your chances of applying for jobs later.0 -
Now that we're on the topic of degrees...
Those are free now.
You could consider going to school and working part-time as a future investment.
Especially if you have "economic needs."
My biggest regret... going to college right out of high school.
I'll never be eligible for grants again, and I have a BA in Communications I'll never use.
Why didn't I go for accounting or business?
16 it too young to make those kinds of decisions!
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The issue I am running into is that the company I work with is very small, and our employees are not treated well at all.
I'm sorry to hear that OP. Obviously people only leave jobs when they are unhappy. HR hirers and "recruiters" are well aware of this but they make you play the game, test your story and call the shots as you can see from some of the replies posted here. It's an ugly system and there's a reason why wage earners are frequently referred to as wage slaves, thanks to the people who pull the strings and decide who's employable and who isn't. And the criteria for this, since the job market has downturned, is becoming more and more ridiculous and exclusive. In my area now, *secretaries* are now required to hold 4 year college degrees or they don't get the job.
Staying in a job where you're treated badly and feel unhappy for 4 to 5 years to make yourself appealing to some recruiter or HR maven who has the power to place you in a company where the standards of conduct are probably 'anything goes' is a gamble not worth taking based on my personal experience. I'm 47 and wish I could take back the 12 years of my life working for corporate firms as a miserable wage slave. It would have been worth giving up my car, my weekends off schedule and the security of my paycheck at the time. I am not college educated but eventually went to trade school for a year in my forties to train in a practical and in demand field which released me from the limitations the job market had always placed on me.
In my twenties and thirties, I would have been happier working for half the money in a field I could stand and putting in longer hours than to have put up with the b*llsh*t of 9 to 5 life in a profit driven paper factory or in the many restaurant jobs I worked as a menial.
If you can, try to continue the stay at home mom role and make whatever sacrifices are necessary. Or with your husband's support, start your own pet sitting or pet walking business? Or at the very least, investigate union opportunities in your area and try to get a union protected job if you can. Working in private industry without collectively bargained contractual protection is pretty often a really awful deal. For the employee. Do whatever you can to protect yourself, support yourself and guard your dignity. Because in this work culture, God knows, almost no one else will.
When did she mention ever wanting to be a stay at home mom? What if OP is fulfilled by having a career? She doesn't like her current company, that doesn't mean she needs to quit working and "make sacrifices".
OP said she used to be a stay at home mom and left that gig to go to work outside the home. Probably out of economic necessity. She mentioned that she worked for McDonald's which she didn't like and is now working for a small company where the employees are treated badly. On the other hand, maybe she doesn't "need" to quit working outside the home and "make sacrifices". But if that's what she ends up doing and feels better about it, so what?
But maybe you can run it by aging provocateur Gloria Steinem or channel the ghost of Betty Friedan, just to be on the safe side.
These two gals, by the way, didn't decide to work for a living due to economic necessity. Their educations were bought and paid for and their parental heritage was comfortable at least. They also had gainfully employed and educated *husbands*.
Unlike most working women of today who bust their nuts to support their families on a pittance, these two feminists and *most* recognizable neo-feminist academics, authors and speakers always had cushy safety nets to fall back on and many options to choose from. Yet they successfully brainwashed generations of working class women since the 1960s with whom they had nothing in common. Time to wake up.
You forgot to call everyone Sheeple.
It's always laughable to me when someone thinks they deserve more respect because they had to do something to get somewhere that someone else didn't. What matters is that you got there.0 -
I wonder how this thread would have gone if OP was male. I doubt anyone would suggest he make sacrifices and become a stay at home dad.0
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If jobs are progressive I think you need 2-3 years. If they arent progressive it looks like you float around too much. I use to jump around when i was moving up and the market i was in was red hot so people didn't care - i'm older and have been at my job 10 years. It really is a marriage of experience/education and age - juniors get more forgiveness than senior people.0
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Now that we're on the topic of degrees...
Those are free now.
You could consider going to school and working part-time as a future investment.
Especially if you have "economic needs."
My biggest regret... going to college right out of high school.
I'll never be eligible for grants again, and I have a BA in Communications I'll never use.
Why didn't I go for accounting or business?
16 it too young to make those kinds of decisions!
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there are some free courses on the internet to get you started! The economy is so ****ty, I am tired of playing its game and am using free schooling and will take over the world...or maybe just find a job I enjoy and can grow in.0 -
I really think all you have to do is explain your office fart story, and that is MORE than sufficient as to why you only stayed in your current position for 6 months.
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I wonder how this thread would have gone if OP was male. I doubt anyone would suggest he make sacrifices and become a stay at home dad.
Of course not, because while it's seem by very close minded people that women should be at home and not in the work place, it's also seen as men should be the providers, so guys that want to be a stay at home dad are looked down upon. Trust me, I work with some of these poeple. "Danny is playing the woman now, his wife made him stop working."
Hear stuff like that all the time.
It's stupid. I don't see why it's so hard to just be ok with someone else doing what they want, when what they want doesn't have any bearing on your life at all.0 -
I have been at my company since 2006 and was last advanced in 2008. Can I have a new, better paying job with less stress now? Please?
I've paid my dues....time after time.0 -
The issue I am running into is that the company I work with is very small, and our employees are not treated well at all.
I'm sorry to hear that OP. Obviously people only leave jobs when they are unhappy. HR hirers and "recruiters" are well aware of this but they make you play the game, test your story and call the shots as you can see from some of the replies posted here. It's an ugly system and there's a reason why wage earners are frequently referred to as wage slaves, thanks to the people who pull the strings and decide who's employable and who isn't. And the criteria for this, since the job market has downturned, is becoming more and more ridiculous and exclusive. In my area now, *secretaries* are now required to hold 4 year college degrees or they don't get the job.
Staying in a job where you're treated badly and feel unhappy for 4 to 5 years to make yourself appealing to some recruiter or HR maven who has the power to place you in a company where the standards of conduct are probably 'anything goes' is a gamble not worth taking based on my personal experience. I'm 47 and wish I could take back the 12 years of my life working for corporate firms as a miserable wage slave. It would have been worth giving up my car, my weekends off schedule and the security of my paycheck at the time. I am not college educated but eventually went to trade school for a year in my forties to train in a practical and in demand field which released me from the limitations the job market had always placed on me.
In my twenties and thirties, I would have been happier working for half the money in a field I could stand and putting in longer hours than to have put up with the b*llsh*t of 9 to 5 life in a profit driven paper factory or in the many restaurant jobs I worked as a menial.
If you can, try to continue the stay at home mom role and make whatever sacrifices are necessary. Or with your husband's support, start your own pet sitting or pet walking business? Or at the very least, investigate union opportunities in your area and try to get a union protected job if you can. Working in private industry without collectively bargained contractual protection is pretty often a really awful deal. For the employee. Do whatever you can to protect yourself, support yourself and guard your dignity. Because in this work culture, God knows, almost no one else will.
When did she mention ever wanting to be a stay at home mom? What if OP is fulfilled by having a career? She doesn't like her current company, that doesn't mean she needs to quit working and "make sacrifices".
OP said she used to be a stay at home mom and left that gig to go to work outside the home. Probably out of economic necessity. She mentioned that she worked for McDonald's which she didn't like and is now working for a small company where the employees are treated badly. On the other hand, maybe she doesn't "need" to quit working outside the home and "make sacrifices". But if that's what she ends up doing and feels better about it, so what?
But maybe you can run it by aging provocateur Gloria Steinem or channel the ghost of Betty Friedan, just to be on the safe side.
These two gals, by the way, didn't decide to work for a living due to economic necessity. Their educations were bought and paid for and their parental heritage was comfortable at least. They also had gainfully employed and educated *husbands*.
Unlike most working women of today who bust their nuts to support their families on a pittance, these two feminists and *most* recognizable neo-feminist academics, authors and speakers always had cushy safety nets to fall back on and many options to choose from. Yet they successfully brainwashed generations of working class women since the 1960s with whom they had nothing in common. Time to wake up.
You forgot to call everyone Sheeple.
It's always laughable to me when someone thinks they deserve more respect because they had to do something to get somewhere that someone else didn't. What matters is that you got there.
Thanks for the reminder. But I'd phrase it as such: Behold, I send you out as sheep amidst the wolves. And I think Al Pacino was in agreement with you. The end justifies the means. Respect Reschmect. Laughable that! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
I worked my *kitten* off to get where I am. I work along side people that got degrees and got here right out of college. I don't think they're below me, and don't expect them to respect me more. That's silly talk.0 -
Yeah because most guys really want to be stay at home dads and put their wives out to work to support them.I wonder how this thread would have gone if OP was male. I doubt anyone would suggest he make sacrifices and become a stay at home dad.
My husband did. He was a stay at home dad from 2011-2013.0 -
Yeah because most guys really want to be stay at home dads and put their wives out to work to support them.I wonder how this thread would have gone if OP was male. I doubt anyone would suggest he make sacrifices and become a stay at home dad.
That has nothing to do with the point I was trying to make.0 -
I wonder how this thread would have gone if OP was male. I doubt anyone would suggest he make sacrifices and become a stay at home dad.
The poster who seems to have imbibed a little before posting might have, but yea.
OP, job changing depends entirely on the industry and the circumstances for the changes. If you are unhappy in your position, why would you stay? When asked about it, you don't have to be completely forthcoming, and you don't have to lie. Maybe express that while you enjoy your current position and the people you work with, you don't see long term potential at your current job. There are ways around your dilemma that don't involve you staying at a job that causes you to be unhappy.0 -
Yeah because most guys really want to be stay at home dads and put their wives out to work to support them.I wonder how this thread would have gone if OP was male. I doubt anyone would suggest he make sacrifices and become a stay at home dad.
Some men are happy to do so for a variety of reasons. The world is not as black and white as you are attempting to make it.0 -
Yeah because most guys really want to be stay at home dads and put their wives out to work to support them.I wonder how this thread would have gone if OP was male. I doubt anyone would suggest he make sacrifices and become a stay at home dad.
Some men are happy to do so for a variety of reasons. The world is not as black and white as you are attempting to make it.
Yep.. I should add... the only reason my husband went back to work was so that my son could go to a private Montessori school..........0 -
Yeah because most guys really want to be stay at home dads and put their wives out to work to support them.I wonder how this thread would have gone if OP was male. I doubt anyone would suggest he make sacrifices and become a stay at home dad.
Some men are happy to do so for a variety of reasons. The world is not as black and white as you are attempting to make it.
Perhaps, but they do not represent the majority by any means. But wheird, any fella who is looking for and finds himself a sugar mama should work it for all it's worth. Opportunism knows no gender boundaries, nor should it
And sistahs are doin' it for themselves. If they have to that is. Or, ah, if it fills them with a sense of fulfillment of course :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Hmm. Would you consider the husband of a SAHM a sugar daddy?0 -
Yeah because most guys really want to be stay at home dads and put their wives out to work to support them.I wonder how this thread would have gone if OP was male. I doubt anyone would suggest he make sacrifices and become a stay at home dad.
I guess I am not understanding what you are trying to say. Is this sarcasm? If so, do you not feel that your previous post about women being brainwashed to be in the working world is a bit hypocritical? Do you feel that it is not a man's choice to work or stay at home? That he inherently wants to be the bread winner?0 -
Yeah because most guys really want to be stay at home dads and put their wives out to work to support them.I wonder how this thread would have gone if OP was male. I doubt anyone would suggest he make sacrifices and become a stay at home dad.
Some men are happy to do so for a variety of reasons. The world is not as black and white as you are attempting to make it.
Perhaps, but they do not represent the majority by any means. But wheird, any fella who is looking for and finds himself a sugar mama should work it for all it's worth. Opportunism knows no gender boundaries, nor should it And sistahs are doin' it for themselves. If they have to that is. Or, ah, if it fills them with a sense of fulfillment of course :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Yeah because most guys really want to be stay at home dads and put their wives out to work to support them.I wonder how this thread would have gone if OP was male. I doubt anyone would suggest he make sacrifices and become a stay at home dad.
Some men are happy to do so for a variety of reasons. The world is not as black and white as you are attempting to make it.
Perhaps, but they do not represent the majority by any means. But wheird, any fella who is looking for and finds himself a sugar mama should work it for all it's worth. Opportunism knows no gender boundaries, nor should it And sistahs are doin' it for themselves. If they have to that is. Or, ah, if it fills them with a sense of fulfillment of course :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Yeah because most guys really want to be stay at home dads and put their wives out to work to support them.I wonder how this thread would have gone if OP was male. I doubt anyone would suggest he make sacrifices and become a stay at home dad.
Some men are happy to do so for a variety of reasons. The world is not as black and white as you are attempting to make it.
Perhaps, but they do not represent the majority by any means. But wheird, any fella who is looking for and finds himself a sugar mama should work it for all it's worth. Opportunism knows no gender boundaries, nor should it And sistahs are doin' it for themselves. If they have to that is. Or, ah, if it fills them with a sense of fulfillment of course :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
The fact that you condemn and criticize the choices that others make, from choosing to work and choosing to stay at home with the kids, whether male or female, is pretty telling that your life is apparently unfulfilled. People make the choices they make for their own reasons, and you really don't get the right to put them down either way.0 -
I would imagine on how much reading Human Resources actually does.
I left my last job, not because I wanted to, but because new management came in and started changing policy in ways that directly conflicted with the law. When I finally found and accepted a new position elsewhere, I did such with the understanding that I would be working in Human Resources department. This made the $1300 a month pay cut a little more palatable. On my first day at my new job I found out that between when I was offered and accepted the position and when I started they moved my position to a different department. I took a job that was offered under false pretenses and I still don't even have an effing filing cabinet. HR kept the office and filing cabinets that previously belonged with this position.
If I manage to get out of here I would not want to work for someone who cared about job length and didn't bother to ask why.0 -
I would imagine on how much reading Human Resources actually does.
I left my last job, not because I wanted to, but because new management came in and started changing policy in ways that directly conflicted with the law. When I finally found and accepted a new position elsewhere, I did such with the understanding that I would be working in Human Resources department. This made the $1300 a month pay cut a little more palatable. On my first day at my new job I found out that between when I was offered and accepted the position and when I started they moved my position to a different department. I took a job that was offered under false pretenses and I still don't even have an effing filing cabinet. HR kept the office and filing cabinets that previously belonged with this position.
If I manage to get out of here I would not want to work for someone who cared about job length and didn't bother to ask why.
Most places will ask you to explain, it just sends up red flags.0 -
Hmm. Would you consider the husband of a SAHM a sugar daddy?
Depends. If she could comfortably divorce him for the sheer liberating joy of entering the workforce to seek her long awaited *fulfillment* while placing her children in institutionalized day care or with a foreign born $12 an hour "nanny" to optimize their emotional growth and development from an objective perspective than *maybe* *not*.
But if she'd be more comfortable keeping him around to facilitate the lifestyle to which she's become accustomed, along with all the subtle and complicated *trappings* of marital responsibility and motherhood, then perhaps the sugar daddy title would be open to interpretation
Well, this has to be a troll.0
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